people 45yo+, what was abdl like before the internet?

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

2 hours ago, ppdude said:

Yeah... I was able to fit into Pattycakes, Gerbers and maybe one other that I can't remember. Oh, the good old days!!! Though now I'm swimming in plastic -- even with economic and supplier contraction there are still a few different plastic pants suppliers around. Still don't like China at all.

 

 

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[BabyChris121675]

I am part of the old school- I am in my 40s and I remember in the day you sometimes got lucky finding diaper magazines at porno shops but that was like finding hens teeth- or Nugget, which was a fetish magazine would sometimes have adult babies in it - of course I was 21 by then- but before that I felt alone other than when I'd seen some talk show- I think it was Donahue by coincidence when he had ABs on the show.   It was a much different era.  I was given a book about sex lifestyles and in it had adult babies listed and there was a picture of a girl in a crib.  And this mind you- wasn't in color- black and white- I was given the book in 1997 by a friend who knew I wore diapers at that time.     

Times have really changed- I got my first internet computer in 2000 and my world changed when I found out what was out there online and the rest as I like to say was history.  

I too also remember seeing adult diapers in catalogs- I also remember also the old school Attends diapers and liked those over Depends as I found Depends did not work well, nor fit me right due to my height and all plus they were much thinner than Attends were at that time I recall.  Times have changed- now you have more options and better diapers if you are willing to spend the money on them. 

BabyChris

[WBxx]

In the mid-seventies I stumbled upon a “diaper” letter in Playboy opening the “I’m not the only one” door.  From there I subscribed to Fetish Times.  Fetish times led me to DPF and Nugget magazine.  Finally, via DPF roster and Nugget personals I began to exchange letters (PO Box) with likeminded folks of both sexes around the world.  Some of my PO Box relationships went on for years expanding well beyond AB/DL.

[~Brian~]

@lil_stinkie

I would say that life regarding ABDL what's a lot different before the Internet came about. this is because many because many people might not know exactly what it was, and there was no real way to get involved in that type of lifestyle unless you knew somebody that could get you hooked up with the necessary contact information or suppliers. Thing that you must understand that before the Internet happened, none of this stuff was really discussed unless it was done in A that was done by snail mail, and the Internet opened the door to many things that you would never have access to before 1993.

I would say I'm gonna use 1993 as my base year. In 1993 I became a bachelor's candidate after getting my associate my associates conferred upon me. In 1994, That is when I started dealing with the Internet.  the Internet open my eyes to a lot of different things, and there are a lot of different places you could go. I remember one of my instructors and my supervisor at work, and I worked in the computer lab, showed me what the Internet was and ended up showing me where I could go, And when he said I could go to somewhere and look up something and look for example in Spain, France, the United Kingdom or the United States, I was surprised. you can go anywhere and look up anything find anything, and you have to make sure that you're able to attribute the proper credit for it. that is one of the things I had to learn when writing research papers once the Internet became popular as a source of information. I had to learn the difference between primary and secondary sources, and primary sources were sources that we were to use mostly in our papers, with very little secondary source information, such as an encyclopedia or something considered a secondary source.

When I was 23, I got My Internet installed, and I paid for it every month. I went to many sites, learned a lot about the Internet, served my community in Tallahassee FL for many many years, and it made me happy that I had my first modem. I had to have one of my instructors at the college give my mom some information about how wonderful the Internet was And my mom finally agreed that I could get a modem. I use it at home 1st and that's why I had to have my mom's permission because it was hooked her phone line, and I did not want to have her have to pay long distance fees. I used the Vermont Department of Library's system which is a vax able to get to the internet. once Internet connectivity was available through the shell I was able to use sovernet, another provider such as AOL.  Aol was just an on ramp to the Internet, and was not really an Internet provider.  once I was able to get a real provider that I was able to use everyday, and I was able to use my browsers I was able to go everywhere. I finally figured out that I had to deal with situation that I was unsure of, that means I was like why do I like diapers and stuff, so I went to different places and then ended up finding that there was a whole community of adults that liked diapers are used diapers for whatever purpose. I don't daily diapers was in existence back then in 93, but I could have sworn that I saw it before that, it might have been the other site that we don't discuss here, but I'm not quite sure. all I know is that I've known about daily diapers for about 20 to 22 years, and I've known a lot of the users here because I've seen them in chat. It took me awhile to be able to determine what was going on, I still had the fetish and I still had the feelings, but I had to repress them because no one would understand. I finally realized that there are a lot of people out there that were diaper wearers diaper lovers and everything else, and then there were different sites out there.

As I've learned there are many different sites out there, some of them have positive things to say about people in the ABDL World,, and some people have negative feelings feelings about the ABDL world, and they make a big deal of either side. I finally realized that there are good things about what we deal with, and there are bad things, but for the most part, I think that there are good intentions for most sites. you just have to be able to determine what is true and what is false, and what is conjecture and what is hyperbole or other things that don't make any sense. People's opinions about people in the lifestyle can vary widely, so you have to understand the you need that you're trying to research, And I think that most of the research i've done indicates that daily diapers is the best site on the Internet, and I don't say that lately because it is the best site in my opinion. we are allowed here to stay our opinions as long as we don't go over the line and end up insulting someone or doing something bad. we are allowed 2 post our opinions about different things and we're allowed to disagree, as long as we do it respectfully. I got a good feeling about this site because of the people and because of what I've read. i've read things on this site for years, I just didn't sign on until 2019 because I had problems and I figured this would be the perfect time for me to be able to go full throttle, and be incontinent in the diaper lover, like I've always known, and being in, that gave me the in, and my disability is also a good reason. So I'm here to stay and it's all because of the fact that the Internet gave me the opening and allowed me to learn.

Before the Internet everything was basically done by a telephone, by Snail mail, by UPS, or USPS: you ended up spending your money and you ended up ordering magazines or clothing or whatever, and that was awesome. when you end up adding the electronic variance and everything else, it makes your choices faster and because of that, you have more things to choose from. sometimes the Internet can overload you with information, so you have to know how to research before you can make decisions. for example, if I wanna get a new computer, I can look at a particular store for example online, get all the specs, and then be able to look at different computers go to a brick and mortar store and be able to pick it up. most times, this is getting more and more difficult to do because more stores are going online and saying they don't have things in stock, so you have to be careful.

Most of the time the Internet is a good tool, And I use it everyday. Because of my disability, I use computers all my life, and I was typing stuff in computers when I was in fifth grade on an apple 2E. I wasn't on the Internet until I moved out on my own, the public Internet accesses through my mom's phone line, but I can tell you that the Internet has changed for the better, but we still have a lot of stuff we need to get rid of on the Internet, such as the scams, the people that make viruses and actually use shifty sites and sites that all they wanna do is destroy people's computers or control them. We have to get rid of all of this stupid have to do with things that deal with ransomware in all of this. These are bad things about the Internet. they're also the dark Internet, And sometimes you can get things that you can't find on the regular Internet through these channels, but I always try to stay clear of that.

The Internet has changed everything about the way we do business today. in the old days, you would end up ordering something from a catalog such as a Sears catalog or any type of a catalog, And then you would get what you're looking for, And then you would end up setting it up. you would probably go to a catalog store such a spiegel, or whatever catalog you want. you would order everything through the mail, fill out forms and everything else. computers made it easier, but still Always the nostalgia of the all the way we used to do it. I wasn't involved in the community back then, but I can assure you that I used to get things like National Geographic World National Geographic and other types of magazines including local newspapers delivered to me every morning, and I would read the newspaper for a long time, and I really enjoyed it. part of the why the Internet has changed so much is because we no longer have to rely on catalogs and things like that. we just rely on websites, But the thing is part of the deal that you have to deal with is the change the changes are there, and I'm not sure if all of them were for the best, but are good share of them help us do a lot of our work a lot faster.   now for example you can get cars online and you can sell them online, but there's always some scamming thing with Carvana or something like that which is kind of stupid, and I've seen them get in trouble several times. 

all I can imagine is that it is quite different how it was done before the Internet became popular and people would put things online. the Internet has good things and bad things about it, and for my used, the Internet has always been good to me, but I've always learned that there are things that you can do and things that you shouldn't do online. I am glad that I am here, and I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the fact that at a computer that I connect to somewhere to be able to get the Internet, and to be able to use that computer once connected to the net to get here to daily diapers. @DailyDi and his admin team do a very good job of running this place, and that is a credit to him and his crew because they really care about the people that are here, and they want to make sure this place is safe and not something that can get people into trouble. When you end up being on a site so long, you begin to trust the people that run your site, the people that know of you and know of your character For example, and they will back you up if you're right, and they'll correct you when you're wrong, and I think that the best thing about this site is that Mikey would tell us the truth, and so would his admin team because truth may truth makes sense, but people that don't tell the truth deal with the consequence of not doing it. we all have reasons for being here, and I'm glad that we can be here, and I'm glad that we have a place that we can consider safe. There are a lot of people that are responsible for making sure that this is the case, and each one is unique and also has a very unique story about how they got here and why they're here. I love reading differing stories about how people got here and why they're here, or how things how things occur, because it makes it feel as if you are totally immersed in it, and you understand the people around you.

I would assume that ABDL before the Internet would be based on the Postal Service phone calls and other things like that. You ended up waiting for packages just like you would everyday, there are times that I wonder how we were able to function before the Internet, now I realize that sometimes the Internet is more of a problem than the way it used to be. I'm willing to work with the Internet and the Internet is not a problem to me cause I know how to use it and I know what not to work with and what to work with. A lot of people think the Internet is bad, and that can be because of bad experience, and there are people that allow Internet usage like for example parents to children If they have a reasonable request or a reasonable need for it, such as school, but for the most part the Internet is a tool and that's and that's the way it should be, and that and that is important.

Just like when you have kids that have phones now. most of the kids you see have their faces buried in their phones unless they are talking directly to somebody, or they have their phone in their pocket And the minute that thing goes off people pick up their phones and they start messaging or they end up sending email or whatever they do, or they'll pick up the phone and talk to someone on the phone, during somebody else's conversation, when you start talking to someone at their house. my dad had a rule in the house that said that everyone had to leave their cell phones in a basket by the door when they walked in the house. if they want their cell phone, they pick it up and they go outside and use it and put it back in the basket. I was the only one that was not required to put his cell phone down or put it in a basket because dad knew that I knew when to use it and when not to. there are times that I even ask my dad for permission to use my cell phone And he said I have no problem with you using it bud.

The deal is you have to be realistic: Times have changed, lives have changed, the way kids have raised has changed dramatically since I was born in the 70s, because of the way the world works. You used to have to do everything by mail, and that took a long time, and it was kind of interesting and fun to get a letter or a card or something, read it and then go and respond Period now you just go upstairs to your computer and you can send an email in a matter of seconds, or you can answer a call in a matter of seconds or send a message in a matter of seconds. it all depends on what you want to do.

Sometimes I wonder how we're able to function before the Internet, but I know that times have changed and so we have to roll with the Times, but it's always good to be able to go back and wonder for example when we used to get the Sears wishbooks and look through them and see the awesome stuff that you could get, or you'd get a Radioshack catalog and look at different stuff and get computers and games and toys and everything else. you used to be able to go to a toy store that was a toy store, and pick up anything or go to KB toys, or different stuff. Now those stores no longer exist, and you have to do almost everything online, and even if you want older toys you have to go to ebay to find them because none of them are being manufactured anymore, and that is a shame.

I'm just glad that I was able to be in a generation that said that family friends and General life is more important than electronic gadgetry and being online 24 hours a day.

Brian

 

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Some things the internet did, for both ABDL and other interests

1. Any communications had to wait at least 5 days between persons and 2 or 3 months for group activities via newsletter. With the advent of forums and emial. You can exchange communications instantly and post many notes in a day

2. Shopping for things got a whole lot faster and more things are out there

3. Websites and participation; things like games you can play, places to play, clubs you can join where nobody does anything and things you can make; see the 'goodies" bag in my siggy

4. pictures. Now we can actually SEE what you look like as AB/LG and what an adorable little girl you are (as well as how self-absorbed some persons are; I ams so glad I am not one of those. I am too cute and good to be like that). There are outlets for creativity

This is true for other things beiside ABDL

[Wheels]

I was 5 (in the 70s) when I discovered the joy of diapers thanks to my curiosity after finding a box of old Pampers in the closet. That experience imprinted my diaper kink that still firmly lasts through today (I'm in my 50s).

From ages 5 through 11 I desperately wanted to be in diapers, but had no access to them. At age 11 I discovered that my mom's maxi pads felt amazingly close to wearing diapers. So soft, such a turn on.

In my early/mid teens I tried buying Pampers buy riding my bicycle up to the neighborhood drug store with my allowance money a couple times, but they never really fit me well. Somehow it never occurred to me that there was such a thing as adult diapers. It would've been amazing to have had access to the Internet at that age. I would've liked to type in the question "why do I like to wear diapers?". Not only would I have found out I wasn't the only one on the planet that enjoyed diapers so much, but I would've also learned that there was such a thing as adult diapers! It's a bummer to think how so many of those horny years growing up I could've spent in properly fitting diapers.

Sadly it took a catastrophe to introduce me to diapers that fit me right. I had a spinal cord injury as a young adult. It was extremely difficult to deal with, but I guess the big positive from that unfortunate situation is that it opened up the opportunity to be in diapers full-time, which I am today.

So, as many of said about pre-Internet, particularly as a kid with no access to underground porn, there was really no way to know I wasn't the only one. Being able to search the stuff when I was 8 or 9 may have led to a much better level of self acceptance, and ultimately be able to explore things are much more positive way.

[Little Matt]

I got online as a teenager living at home so I never really got involved in the mail-order or phone line stuff. I knew there were other people like me because I'd seen them on talk shows. But they didn't really present the most positive image. Getting online and actually connecting with people who shared the same feelings was great. Back then it was mostly news groups like alt.sex.fetish.diapers and a very small smattering of websites like dpf.com. But just that was amazing.

Before that I'd go to bookstores and search Parenting books and magazines for anything about diapers or bedwetting or accidents or whatever I could find. One day one of the clerks asked me what I was doing which ran me off. Admittedly that most of looked weird as hell in her eyes.

[Jbo]

It was scary, I thought I was the only one who was turned on by wearing and using a diaper.

[spark]

I remember thinking I was the only person who wanted to wear diapers.  DPF was a thing, but I don't recall that it was easy to learn about.   I didn't know there was a AB/DL community.   II didn't even know that adult diapers existed until I saw an ad for depends in the late 80's, which is when I started to really want to wear diapers.  The desire was always there, but I didn't think it was realistic.

I would go to bookstores and libraries to read books and articles about bedwetting and that's when I learned that some kids were diapered through school age.  It wasn't until I looked up "Bedwetting Diapers" that I learned about DPF and the AB/DL community.

[dlsafrica]

I felt guilty like it was something wrong

[le Hollandais]

On 1/18/2023 at 9:28 PM, dlsafrica said:

I felt guilty like it was something wrong

Yeah, me too. And in constant fear I'd get busted. So between the ages of 15-22, and then between 23-30-something I did my best to suppress desire to be diapered.

[oliver d]

Thought I was the only one in the world who wanted to wear diapers after being potty trained. Where I lived porn was illegal so I had no access to adult magazines,it was only after I immigrated and I got the internet that I found out I was not alone.

[froggy]

Internet just made finding others easier.  It did not mean they were any more willing to meet.

[kirababy]

Interesting topic.   I'm mid 50's and was very aware of my fetish for diapers and "stuff".   I had always been fascinated with diapers and the act of being diapered - from a young age, say 5 or so.   When I was about 12, I found that my dad had a bunch of Penthouse magazines and such.  That led me to finding Variations magazine, which often had stories about Diapers.   So while I knew that I was not alone, I was still by myself.  I saw ads for various suppliers in those magazines some of  which offered diapers - NK Products, Centurians are two that come to mind.   Fast forward to the early 90's, say 1992 where I finally ordered the DPF catalog.   What a tremendous day THAT was.  I soon joined, and was on my way.   Around that time, I wanted to order some cloth diapers and plastic panties, so I had to summon the courage to actually call and talk to the people at NK Products, I think it was.

So, the long and short of it - there was definitely ABDL before the internet, but likely it was not known as ABDL at that time.   The internet certainly makes finding others with common interests much easier, as well as related content, and supplies.  We were able to do that earlier, but it took a lot more time, and was not easy to do.

 

[spark]

On 1/20/2023 at 8:50 AM, le Hollandais said:

Yeah, me too. And in constant fear I'd get busted. So between the ages of 15-22, and then between 23-30-something I did my best to suppress desire to be diapered.

I felt that way even after I found the internet.  To be honest, I went through a ton of sites I would visit to get ABDL fix, but it was mostly when I found this this site that had the sense of community and I started to accept this part of me.

[dondl2]

Growing up thinking I must be Nuts, Yet I would continue to search for diapers to fit and be as baby diapers.  I tried many different things to serve as diapers. Plastic pants as rubber pants I did wear as a baby were gone from the selves, what ever I could find I would purchase the size xl, later finding out they were not the largest size the toddler large were, but there there was the Empire super size, they were the largest of all I found, and as for diapers it was what ever I could find. could go on but yes older and before the internet. am I nuts, the only one. 

 

 

 

[anned]

I was born in 1950 and bed wetter till age 12. By the time I was 6 years old, I knew I was hooked on diapers.

After age 12 I still had some plastic pants that still fit and i also had a friend that was a bed wetter. And also liked wearing for fun during the day.

We would use towels as diapers on rare times when we could.

Around 1976/77 I found attends diapers and found you could use infant diapers as stuffers.

I was raised as a nudist and also Bi and went to nude beaches and hot springs and found i liked to wear diapers openly in public.

I also had one gay nude beach where no one cared if I wore openly, so I started wearing just for fun.

I found another person that also liked to wear diapers, and we would get together once in a while.

This was also when I found DPF.

Also about this time, I started wearing any time was traveling and also during this time i also was working a rotating shift and once a month i had 6 days in a row off and traveled a lot.

Due to health problems  had to retire at age 55 and at the same time due to Incontinence i  went 24/7.

Now at age 72 i am enjoying my second childhood back in diapers even though my doctors keep wanting to fix things. I no longer care and wear thick diapers. That anyone that knows what to look for will know I am wearing. Also, at my age, I am finding others that have to wear diapers due to health and age.

Though once in a while I will not wear my diaper just so I can spend the day wetting my pants. Or if I am at a nudist area I just wet when ever I can not stop the flow.

 

[Diapered Dave]

Ahh yes, ABDL Before the internet. Wow, it was the dark ages!!  We had to knit our diapers out of wood chips and buffalo skin, by candle light! And we liked it, damn it! ?

[rusty pins]

22 hours ago, Diapered Dave said:

Ahh yes, ABDL Before the internet. Wow, it was the dark ages!!  We had to knit our diapers out of wood chips and buffalo skin, by candle light! And we liked it, damn it! ?

And then walk 10 miles to the one room school in a blinding snow storm after milking the cow, feeding the chickens and thawing the pump.

[le Hollandais]

8 hours ago, rusty pins said:

And then walk 10 miles to the one room school in a blinding snow storm after milking the cow, feeding the chickens and thawing the pump.

Huh! You had it easy. Why I had all that and had to walk uphill both ways!

[cathdiap]

Personally, these were the main differences:

• The diapers were not as good as they are now
• There were no options to look at pictures of diapered women
• There were no options to share experiences

But I enjoyed my fetish just as much as I do now. 

[ValentinesStuff]

On 2/12/2023 at 5:20 PM, Diapered Dave said:

Ahh yes, ABDL Before the internet. Wow, it was the dark ages!!  We had to knit our diapers out of wood chips and buffalo skin, by candle light! And we liked it, damn it! ?

Luxury! We had Depends, they were green, didn't absorb anything, but we liked it. 

[Lil Leo]

On 2/13/2023 at 3:52 PM, rusty pins said:

And then walk 10 miles to the one room school in a blinding snow storm after milking the cow, feeding the chickens and thawing the pump.

Don't forget, "up hill both ways "

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Just now, Lil Leo said:

Don't forget, "up hill both ways "

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Oops! I see somebody said that already. ☺️

[Jilly Poo]

The first time I found out I was not alone wanting to wear diapers, dress and act as a baby, I was about 25 yrs old and was at home alone watching the "Sally Jesse Raphael Show"  She had on a group of Adult Babies that were all dressed as babies, drinking from bottles and using diapers.

My immediate thought was "Oh my god, I'm not the only one!"  I had never checked out any publications regarding it, never heard of Munches or any of that but had no way of reaching out to any of these groups but knowing I wasn't alone made me feel so much better about my secret desires.