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My first Kins lined pant was size recommended in their chart. It was ok by itself, but next size up is much better over a disposable. Expect it’s the same for you. After exclusively using cloth diapers for years I was shocked to discover sleeping position and pointing concerns with disposables. There was a significant learning curve, but with thick cloth diapers I can wet in any position pointed any direction without worry of leaking. Hope they work for you.

For me the cloth diaper (lined vinyl pant) is like insurance. It’s rarely needed but nice to have when disposable leaks. On the frugal and lazy side, I only wash the cloth diaper when disposable leaks which is not often.

Having worn and used nightly for ten plus years I now wet in my sleep most nights. Love it!

For decades, even when fabric lined, I’ve always washed my plastic pants by hand. However, back when babies routinely wore plastic pants I don’t recall them being washed by hand. Not sure why the difference.

Growing up I regularly wet the bed till about 9. Then, after roughly 10 dry years, I returned to wetting after drinking beer in my late teens. Few years later a girlfriend convinced me to wear a diaper when an accident was likely. That did it. Enjoying the shame and sensations I now wet the bed (diaper) most nights with nary a drop of alcohol. No regrets.

With you on flat diapers, good vinyl covers and standard size pins. As for boosters, from 1950’s childhood I prefer one or more additional diapers over a booster. Lastly, I use the newspaper fold which places additional layers in front & sides where I’m most prone to leak.

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You, my friend, understand. Waking wet with no memory is the ultimate for me. It never gets old.

During annual physical my doctor always asks about frequency of getting up during the night for the bathroom and getting back to sleep. At least medically the opening is there. But no, except for spouse bedwetting is my deep dark secret.

As I’ve said before, waking wet with no memory is the ultimate high for me. My day is good. On the other hand, waking dry I’m irritable and short-tempered. Thankfully waking dry has become a rarity. Love it!

As another data point, for a period of time mom woke me for the bathroom when she went to bed. Not certain on timing, but I estimate it was two or at the very most three hours after I went to bed. Don’t know the frequency, but there were times I was already wet when she woke me for the bathroom. So like your brother I wet early in the night. For that matter I still do.

After several years of wearing and using a night diaper I now pee smaller volume more frequently. Change suggests reduced vasopressin, but could also be from not holding and/or aging. Whatever, I’ve become a bed-wetter which was the objective.

Could you expand on cutting slit in Ninjamas or Goodnites. Assume you slit all the way through to allow moisture pass through to diaper? What do you use to cut slit? Do innards of stuffer escape through slit?

Didn’t realize Comco offered separate sizing for waist and legs. Was it special order or off the shelf?

After years of wearing and one way or the other wetting night after night I’ve become a true bed-wetter. As confirmation, in the beginning convinced it would only happen when diapered I had a couple regrettable (at the time) accidents away from home. Waking wet with no memory my day is good. I’m special, I’m a bed-wetter. On the other hand, waking dry I’m irritable and depressed. No regrets.