Express your dislikes

[Mars.inDiapers]

What things or aspects that exist in the ABDL world do you not engage in, not for lack of interest, but for a specific dislike? I know for many it's messing, and the associated smell and cleanup.

So, I used to think I'm purely DL and all AB things were just a turnoff for me, but I was mistaken. I like AB stuff, as long as it's modern AB stuff. I have several bodysuits (onesies), one footed sleeper (diaper-heroes little trucks), plenty of disposable diapers with cute prints, latex free pacis (nuk 5). I use pampers diapers as stuffers, pampers wipes as... wipes. The contemporary stuff.

What I specifically dislike the kind of AB stuff that's inspired by actual baby stuff, that would look right on a black-and-white photograph from the 50s. Things that fell out of fashion, or were phased out by the emergence of baby things that are more convenient or just objectively better.

Bonnets, clothes with frilly laces everywhere, plastic pants (and other garments) and rubber bedsheets that, if I was forced to wear or sleep on, would probably have me so drenched in sweat that I'd almost feel diapers would become irrelevant, as peeing in a diaper would hardly make any difference than just wetting on myself.

I also dislike most of the sissy or girly clothing I've seen from pictures. It's not the idea itself, that can be intriguing or even hot. It's usually the execution.

I dislike baby powder.

When I was a baby I didn't get to wear the modern pampers diapers, that were the cool new thing to just hit the market after the fall of the iron curtain. I was in the old fashioned cloth flats and plastic covers.

So with my contemporary exclusive preference of disposable diapers, I'm not reminiscing. I'm compensating :D.

 

What about you? What are your dislikes, no-noes, turnoffs and no-ways?

[kasarberang]

2 hours ago, DiapersOfTheStorm said:

I was in the old fashioned cloth flats and plastic covers.

So this is totally off topic, but I read that as "When cloth fails, plastic covers." and I was thinking: "That'd be a good slogan for a plastic covers/plastic pants company" so here I am sharing that silly thought I had.

 

What do I dislike about AB/DL due to personal tastes? uhm.... Probably messing, like you mentioned, lol. I'm also not especially into diapers, where as I think I like the IDEA of diapers, but I'd never try it because I know I wouldn't like the real thing, if that makes sense.

If I had to guess why it's cause I was in diapers until I was like 7yrs/old due to my medical condition. I remember I wanted to invite a friend over and didn't want him to think I was weird for still wearing, so I made the active effort to quit. My family insisted I would be unable due to my medical condition, well that didn't stop me. I woke up in the middle of the night and every time I did I took off the diaper and went to use the toilet. Continued to do that until I got used to it and literally potty trained myself.

So if I had to guess that'd probably be why they don't appeal to me in the IRL setting, though I'm not sure.

I have a lot of unresolved issues from childhood that I think very much so effect my decisions/tastes to this day. I have a complicated relationship with my family and I noticed that I've grown to find physical traits that most my family shares to be unattractive while I've found traits that are rare/absent in my family to be exceptionally attractive.

At first I just thought this was a normal thing but I discussed with friends who had a better relationship with their family about it and they do not seem to find common family traits to be unattractive; in fact a lot of the people I spoke to found family traits MORE attractive than traits that do not show up in family members as often.

Sorry for getting a little rambly there, started transitioning to a subject I found quite interesting, specifically why we like what we like, or in this case dislike what we dislike.

[rusty pins]

I am DL and always have been.  To each his own and all power to them, but I dislike baby clothes, acting like a baby, sissy clothing, mommy-daddy age play or roll play, people purposely flaunting and showing off their diapers in public around children, wearing diapers all the time or letting my diaper fetish control my life (I have a normal life other than diapers), people who contact me to roll play or ask me if I can be their "baby" because they haven't had the decency to even read my profile before contacting me, members here who are rude to others - hey, we all have our opinions and we shouldn't get on other people who's opinions we don't like.  I also have trouble with people who respond to posts without listening to what the original poster is saying.  For example, "How do I hide my diapers under my clothing when I have to go out in public?" Answer:  "Just proudly wear your diapers and don't worry if people notice them!"  If that's what the guy wanted all along, HE WOULDN'T HAVE ASK FOR HELP HIDING HIS DIAPERS!  I'm sure I'll think of more as time goes by. 

Oh, and a little off subject, but the idiots who go around in public without a mask or social distancing and say this Covid-19 pandemic is a sham or that it's nothing more than the flu in spite of the number of people world wide who have died from it the past 12 months!

[Apache Raccoon]

20 hours ago, DiapersOfTheStorm said:

What I specifically dislike the kind of AB stuff that's inspired by actual baby stuff, that would look right on a black-and-white photograph from the 50s. Things that fell out of fashion, or were phased out by the emergence of baby things that are more convenient or just objectively better.

Bonnets, clothes with frilly laces everywhere, plastic pants (and other garments) 

I also dislike most of the sissy or girly clothing I've seen from pictures. It's not the idea itself, that can be intriguing or even hot. It's usually the execution.

I agree with you there to be honest:

I like wearing girly kid’s clothes and I’m lucky to be small enough to fit in them, but I prefer contemporary stuff: I think ruffles and lace and bonnets and all that jazz is a bit passé to be honest.

Anyway…..

I read a lot of ABDL stories and I wish there was an equivalent of some kind in video format.

I feel really frustrated by ABDL video content all being so amateurish and always having to be a porn thing all the time with the lazy cinematography and crap editing and crap sound and no effort to come up with anything original.

I get porn has a place but I just wish it wasn’t the only thing.

 

 

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Form my perspective throw-away diapers and plain bodysuits reek of institutionalization. The 1050's items had personality. Printed diapers are just plain self-concious and are trying too hard, in the 1950's and  '60's diapers were hidden since they are UNDERWARE and a parent that allowed them to show was considered a low-class tramp. However there were plenty of pictures of toddlers naked or in diapers and rubber panties, they were considered "cute" (still wrong) and kept for private family use. The institutionalization of children started with shumpimpign them into dacare as a matter of course rather than out of economic need and part of things like WIC was the belief that a mother should put the care of her child first. Before the welfare state, if a mother had to work, or if she wanted to, the child was put under the care of a family member like an aunt, or someone very well known to the family and had standing, providng one-to-one or at best, maybe three. Daycare provides only the minimum and cannot provide the level of personal intimacy between child and adult that is necessary for full development

[Mars.inDiapers]

 

On 2/12/2021 at 3:02 AM, Little Christine said:

Form my perspective throw-away diapers and plain bodysuits reek of institutionalization. The 1050's items had personality.

Christine, this bit of your post is kinda off topic but I'd like to react.

Things don't have personality because they're made in a specific time period, that's just your bias. Things have personality because they're not common production items, i.e. someone has put in extra effort to personalize them. Could most people in the 50s afford to spend the time and money necessary for that, in order to make such a sweeping statement true, that '50s items had personality'? 
Sure, today, old things that have been intentionally preserved, or custom made to replicate old things that are no longer common, will have personality. Like a 60s Mustang that someone would take out on weekends. That doesn't mean it had personality back in 60s when everyone and their mother had one. 

Disposable diapers exist for convenience. They were initially meant for travel, but have caught on for reasons that are obvious. Requiring them to have personality makes about as much sense as requiring personality from a vacuum cleaner bag or toilet paper. Printing design on them is mostly a marketing pitch to the parent who is willing to spend extra for something that looks a little less mundane.

On 2/12/2021 at 3:02 AM, Little Christine said:

in the 1950's and  '60's diapers were hidden since they are UNDERWARE and a parent that allowed them to show was considered a low-class tramp

I'm pretty sure if today parents don't put extra clothes over their kids' diapers, it's got something do with the weather being scorching at the time. Good thing that today, babies' well being is higher on list of priorities than appearing 'classy'.

 

The rest of your post is not related to topic at all.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Lots of common itmes had personality, or, if you want to be pedantic and literal, reflect, either visualoly or in some other way that is apparent to the senses, the zeitgeist and leitmotif of the time when they were made. Look at the ars of the '50's and 60's if you doubt me. If this was not true, why are there quite a few websides dedicated to the 1950's like Fifties Web and others. which describe that era as a "time of magic and wonder". Whe I first got on the net, I was amazed at the plethora of such sites

 

The "That's just yourt bias" is a cliche that is 55 years old used to try to invalidate something you don't agree with rather than engage the person directly

[hungsmall]

i’m responsive to the argument that certain things made in a particular time, even if mass-produced or common, carry with them the zeitgeist or leitmotif of that time —- and thus can have a distinguishable “personality.”

For example, there was a set of four common, mass-produced enameled Pyrex kitchen bowls from the 1950s and 1960s —- yellow, red, green, blue —- that are sought after today for both their utility and cheeky primary-color personality of the era.

So, to have a dislike of ABDL paraphernalia that lacks, *in the eye of the beholder*, “personality” in the sense of zeitgeist or leitmotif seems reasonable to me.

As for institutionalization and the welfare state, i have no knowledge.

Although there are aspects of ABDL i don’t personally connect with, i don’t dislike them —- except i agree with @DiapersOfTheStorm in not liking baby powder.  

[diapered charles]

I dislike that ABDL is so ostracized by the BDSM community. 

[rusty pins]

17 hours ago, hungsmall said:

For example, there was a set of four common, mass-produced enameled Pyrex kitchen bowls from the 1950s and 1960s —- yellow, red, green, blue —- that are sought after today for both their utility and cheeky primary-color personality of the era.  

I remember those!  For years we had the red and the green bowl.  Apparently they were a set of 4 but I never saw the yellow or blue bowls.  They must have broken when I was very young.  For years we used that green bowl and the red one too, until one day the red bowl broke.  Then one day my mom was using the hand mixer in the green bowl and the bottom just shattered.  A few years later I found a green bowl at a flea market and bought it.  It didn't last more than a couple years before that broke too.  Once I even found the whole set at a flea market years ago but passed on buying them.  I think they were probably more than I wanted to spend and I know I was afraid they would break too.  I'm still thinking that due to their age they may just have become brittle over the years.  They were nice bowls!

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

I dislike much of the "sissy" paraphenalia. The sissy version of the babydoll lets the panties show, which gets back to having parents that are tramps for allowing that since it was considered sexualily explicit for underwear to show. The same is true about rhumba pnats since they call attention to the derriere. Also the excessive frilliness of many sissy dresses. It is so strong that it does not let the shape of the dress show. All of these are a parody of girlishness. I feel the way any girl would who sees the things that are part of her girl identity used in a demeaning way

[Elbs]

Personally, I dislike the trope of the character who is really short and looks younger than they are getting babied. I'm drawn to the contrast between adult appearance and not-so-adult behaviour. If they look really immature naturally, I'd rather see them as the Mommy to some macho stud than as a baby.

[musicaddict]

I'm personally not into anything even approaching feminization/sissification and dislike most of the adbl content (porn, erotica, captions) seem to focus on that if the men is the one diapered. It's frustrating as well that for a fetish that is statistically mostly male and many of them diapered, most of that porn content that isn't fem/sissy is of women in diapers. Also messing is a hard no for me.

[Crinklz Kat]

I wasn't originally going to respond, but the above post does hit a bit of a nerve.  ABDL isn't all about humiliation or domination.

In regards to other aspects, a "culture" has to move on and keep evolving or it stagnates.  If we become so fixated on one time period or one style, it'll die off from apathy or indifference.  Henry Ford was quite insistent on continuing production of the Model T long after the competition had surpassed it technologically.   Had he got his way, Ford would have ceased to be long before WWII.  Instead, there were others that had to kick his ass to move ahead.  It's the same here.  We can't let any one mind set - be it old ways or new ways - disposable vs cloth, plain vs. printed... etc.  from becoming the only accepted way things are to be.   I've seen this in the model railroading world until recently.  For decades, it appeared to be fixated on the steam-diesel transition era (50s-60s) with only minimal attention paid to very early or modern eras.  But, around 1990-2000, things started to change and now there's a flood of modern stuff out there.  Still tons of transition era stuff, but it's not the domination it used to be.  Part of that is that the "old timers" are dying off or have left the hobby for other reasons.  I'm a modern day guy - I love the big diesels and the sound they make (especially turbo EMDs), but also love steam. I just don't automatically hate something because it doesn't have big drive wheels and side rods.   Same thing here -- I don't really hate cloth (I was raised in cloth but prefer disposables), or the mommy/daddy role play aspects, so I choose to just pass over those specific topics unless something there really intrigues me.  Ignorance can be bliss after all! ?

[Little Matt]

On 2/10/2021 at 9:39 PM, kasarberang said:

What do I dislike about AB/DL due to personal tastes? uhm.... Probably messing, like you mentioned, lol. I'm also not especially into diapers, where as I think I like the IDEA of diapers, but I'd never try it because I know I wouldn't like the real thing, if that makes sense.

I think I know what you mean. I can only really enjoy actually wearing diapers if I'm in the right frame of mind. Most of the time it just reminds me that I'm a grown person in a diaper that doesn't really need them.

[Dubious]

Messing is gross and I avoid it at all cost
I can't even read stories that contain messing 

Acting as a baby I avoid, just not my thing

About everything else is fine
I have onesies, pyjamas and even skirts
I have worn and got some pink diapers
I plan to buy some babyish clothes, but they sold out. (Babyish to me, sold as clothes for adults) 

[ValentinesStuff]

On 2/13/2021 at 5:29 PM, Little Christine said:

I dislike much of the "sissy" paraphenalia. The sissy version of the babydoll lets the panties show, which gets back to having parents that are tramps for allowing that since it was considered sexualily explicit for underwear to show. The same is true about rhumba pnats since they call attention to the derriere. Also the excessive frilliness of many sissy dresses. It is so strong that it does not let the shape of the dress show. All of these are a parody of girlishness. I feel the way any girl would who sees the things that are part of her girl identity used in a demeaning way

But that is what "sissy" is. It is not girlishness, but a parody of girlishness, 

 

Hmmm, 1950s nightgown ad, and there's a babydoll, and what's peeking out underneath? But then again babydolls were adult clothes.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

40 minutes ago, ValentinesStuff said:

But that is what "sissy" is. It is not girlishness, but a parody of girlishness, 

 

Hmmm, 1950s nightgown ad, and there's a babydoll, and what's peeking out underneath? But then again babydolls were adult clothes.

 I do not know where that ad is from, Maybe an early Freidericks of Hollywood or sone kindred spirit. There were always those who were pressing the envelope and those look like bloomers of some kind. But I never saw anything like that at the time in my area of New England. My ideas of things are necessarily based on what I actually saw. Babydolls originated in the 1940's as an adult nightgown of sorts: A kind of early Mihimalist one, I guess. However, in the early 1950's that had evolved and expended to include a little girl's kind of dress., but by the middle 19i70's tha kind shown in the ad was common. Even into the middle 196's the length I wear was the common one. In fact it got the name "babydoll" because of it's short, very high-wasited skirt that looked like it was designed  to make changing a baby or little girl convenient and the panties that came with them were very full-cut. Take a look at some of what they have now and there is no skirt to them and the panties are little more than a G-string or thong

 

[ValentinesStuff]

33 minutes ago, Little Christine said:

I do not know where that ad is from, Maybe an early Freidericks of Hollowood or sone ikndred spirit. There were always those who were pressing the envelope. Babydolls originated in the 1940's as an adult nightgown of sorts: A kind of early Mihimalist one, I guess. However, in the early 1950's that had evolved and expended into a little girl's kind of dress., but by the middle 19i70's tha kind shown in the ad was common. Even into the middle 196's the length I wear was the common one. In fact it got the name "babydoll" because of it's short, very high-wasited skirt that looked like it was designed  to make changing a baby or little girl convenient and the panties that came with them were very full-cut. Take a look at some of what they have now and there is no skirt to them and the panties are little more than a G-string or thong

 

Even a fairly cursory google search shows up lots of 50s babydolls that are that short.

That's a roughly 1955 pattern for sale, not Frederick's of Hollywood, 

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Just now, ValentinesStuff said:

Even a fairly cursory google search shows up lots of 50s babydolls that are that short.

That's a roughly 1955 pattern for sale, not Frederick's of Hollywood, 

It is still exotic compared to what I saw IRL. I AM from New England and of an ethnic group that was fairly conservative in its ways. As I said several times, we French-Canadian extracts were very aware of our reputation and did not wish to live down to it. Anyone wearing something like that other than to bed would be the target of much gossip. Also many babydoll sets did include a kind of robe called a pegnoir, a shorter version of which was a bed jacket or bedcape. With something like that, it would be a necessity and most babydolls had a small bodice with short sleeves

[ValentinesStuff]

https://christmas.musetechnical.com/ShowCatalogPage/1955-Sears-Spring-Summer-Catalog/0192

 

Even Sears was selling them.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

As I said. I am from New England. And that was 1955, I am from 1948-54 and I base what I say on what I saw IRL AND I am speaking in a little girl contest. The "Peek-a-boo" would not be worn outside of bed without something over it by anyone who was respectable, as it was put "who went to church on Sunday" The issue is, not what was in a catalog, but what was actually being worn and where one lived.. It is all about context. The ancient Greeks built a steam engine. Did they have steamships and railroad trains? The built the Anticlithera mechanisms did they have calendar computers? The first revolver was built in the 1600's but they were not even on the market until the 1830's or 40's

[eatenbywo1ves]

That as an ABDL I am automatically a rabid foaming at the mouth supporter of whatever movement is trending or being talked in media(s). People who insist on informing you that you are secretly into this or that, like someone telling a DL that they're really an AB because of...

no

[3bsg3]

Photographs of actual children being used when making captions or artwork. It's stuff like that that make people think we're all paedophiles.

[~Brian~]

10 hours ago, eatenbywo1ves said:

That as an ABDL I am automatically a rabid foaming at the mouth supporter of whatever movement is trending or being talked in media(s). People who insist on informing you that you are secretly into this or that, like someone telling a DL that they're really an AB because of...

no

@eatenbywo1ves

My question is, WHY do people "automatically ASS-UME things?  someone may be Incontinent, and may not have any AB or DL tendencies at all.  They may be an AB, and NOT a DL, or they may be DL.

In My case, I am INCONTINENT AND DL - How people can "tell" you that you are something, or NOT something, or make determinations that you are "secretly into this/that"  What I am into and NOT into is the business of ME and those I trust, and should not be subject to someone making generalizations or statements that it is "wrong" "bad" "strange" or other terms.  It is bad enough that like me, I have a disability, which I live EVERY Day, and because I may sit in a chair, or use adaptive equipment, or have skills that I can put to good use, and all my life, the ONLY job I can do is the one that I CREATE for myself, or one that someone is AWARE of skills or qualities that I possess.

If we add diapers, ABDL/INCON/etc to this:  Then you have to realize that the only thing that makes me upset is that there are GOOD people who work hard, do the best job they can, and they provide help and guidance and support to those that need it.  Some of these individuals, may be "looked down on" because of disability, or other reasons, and I can't tell you how many times I think I could have been hired, but because of something I did/said or through NO FAULT at all on my part, I didn't get the job, or maybe its because of reasons that they legally "can't and shouldn't" be disclosed.

I had to work for a friend that CREATED the position I needed, provided me the tools I needed, and provided me with the opportunity to advance:  I worked UNDER people for a LONG time, and NOW, I am the boss, and I have to remember that sometimes, because I worry I may not be doing my best, but I KNOW as long as I do my best, that is all I can do.

So, why does it seem that it is important to "out" individuals that are Incon/ABDL/DL/etc?  Do people understand that there are reasons why we may be the way we are?  Of course, because I have a disability, and use a chair, and it is mobility related, people probably would understand and probably accept that I need diapers.  I am a PROFESSIONAL in whatever I do, and I don't go "blabbing" people's business all over the place, but early in my journey, I was "outed" by one of my support contractors, and I was basically "humiliated" when I got a call at my workplace to discuss that:  I don't want someone to go out of their way to make light of my condition (diapered or not), and I wish that there were people who were more accepting of the community.

My Point:  They may wear diapers, for whatever reason they choose: They may BE AB or DL or BOTH, but who's business is it of anyone else, other than those who YOU disclose it to:  Do you realize how many PROFESSIONALS we have RIGHT HERE?  They ALL wear diapers for whatever reason(s), but they are working people, like @Evelyn Dellcerro@DailyDi@Transfusionelle@spoonchicken@~ashley~and OTHERS:  I could go on for a long while here, but in my example, EACH of these people  provide a service to their community, and they work HARD:  If they wear diapers, who CARES:  there are people out there that have their "opinions" about our lifestyle.

People have to understand that they should NOT judge people because of any condition, disability or lifestyle choice:  Maybe they don't agree with what we do, but we are DOING it folks:  and if someone wears as diaper, or a colorful outfit, what is the problem here:  there are times that are appropriate for each part of how we live, but who the hell has the right to decide WHO and WHAT you THINK and KNOW you are, but YOURSELF!

People NEED to show some empathy and UNDERSTAND what we all go through, not make wisecracks or stupid assumptions:  why do people do this?  I think it has to do with society and norms:  It's time people understood:  all a diaper is is a "special kind of undies that can be peed/pooped in, and that is IT":  It is amazing how these stupid "stigmas" are still with us, and we need to change that1

Remember, LOVE Thy Neighbor *HUG*

My .02

FULL STOP!

Brian

Edited March 9, 2021 by ~Brian~
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