How long should you wear a diaper if you don't use it?

[marinus18]

I have started wearing diapers a few weeks ago and I want to wear them for longer. But even if you don't use them do you have to change them every day? I mean you have to do that with regular underwear.

How long do any of you feel comfortable wearing a 'clean' diaper?

 

Maybe I just got unlucky with the 2 boxes I got but with me after about 20 hours or so the padding has gone into hard clumps that really dig into my pelvis bones when I sit down and especially when on the bicycle. Also it's usually pretty moist from just sweat.

[eatenbywo1ves]

If you aren't actually using them maybe consider something cloth as that will help save money in the long run.

Otherwise, as long as your comfortable with having them on I guess? Keep in mind the upper limit for wear with usage is 12 hours.

[Dubious]

Dry diapers will break apart easier than wet diapers, so either way, they will only last a day

They are not meant to last longer

[ValentinesStuff]

You can wear a diaper and not use it! I never knew.?

 

Note this does not work with diapers.

 

 

If they are uncomfortable, change them. If they smell change them. 

 

 

[~Brian~]

7 hours ago, marinus18 said:

I have started wearing diapers a few weeks ago and I want to wear them for longer. But even if you don't use them do you have to change them every day? I mean you have to do that with regular underwear.

How long do any of you feel comfortable wearing a 'clean' diaper?

 

Maybe I just got unlucky with the 2 boxes I got but with me after about 20 hours or so the padding has gone into hard clumps that really dig into my pelvis bones when I sit down and especially when on the bicycle. Also it's usually pretty moist from just sweat.

@marinus18

If you are WEARING a diaper, you should wear it as long as you want, as long as you are not uncomfortable, or as long as it is not causing you any complications.  By complications, i mean any reactions, red marks, etc.  Usually, you should change a diaper AT the VERY LEAST, every 8 hours, (or at least that is what I do) and I USE them 24/7.  When you remove a diaper, you are removing the tabs, so you would have to switch up the diaper you are wearing each time you do this.  If you use them, the idea is to change when they are fully saturated or get unbearable.   I've had to change as few as twice a day, as many as 5 times a day, depending on what I have to do.

Diapers can break down after prolonged use, but it also matters WHAT diapers you get.  If you get the cheap stuff, then you will get the results of that choice.  If you are in a quality product, the likelihood that you will have a "severe breakdown" will be less.  I use the Megamaxes.  They are built as an incontinence diaper, and can take the use I put them through, but as @eatenbywo1vessays 12 hours is the limit, and @Dubious seems to also say that they are at max, designed to last for one day.

Remember, disposables can move with you, and they can sag and not feel good on you after a while:  the tapes hold it on, but after a while the diaper would have to be changed to allow for you to have it be snug and comfortable on your body.  Diapers can break down, as as I said, the better the diaper, the better the quality.

Good Luck!

Brian

[nappylover78]

If you don't wet it, a diaper is probably more hygienic than regular underwear, as it will absorb any minor leaks of any sort, including just sweating... but in any case I'd suggest changing it after a day, or when it becomes uncomfortable (if you're active while wearing then the padding is likely to break up, even dry).

[Mysterion]

I agree, you should change after a day.

Especially if you wear them also at night, they will soak some sweat and won't be to comfortable anymore.

[rusty pins]

How long do you wear regular briefs?  Do you wear your BVD's for several days or do you put on fresh clean underpants every day?  People may think of a diaper in terms of what you do inside of it as far as using it, such as wetting or messing in it.  That is when you need to change your diapers often per day.  If you don't wet or mess in it, people might be under he impression you can wear in for days on end since it's clean.  It's NOT clean!  Underwear such as your tighty whity's work two ways.  Sure, they keep your outer pants cleaner and keep your dick from getting caught in the zipper, but even when you pee or take a dump in the toilet, there will still be some residue that will end up soiling your underpants over time.  Drips and drops after peeing, fecal residue from sweating and farts, all in your underpants over a normal day's time.  The same can be said for your diaper over a days time.  While it's not as bad as pooping or peeing in your underpants or diaper, there will still be some slight odor, not to mention the possibility of a slight rash from wearing a diaper with some residue in it.  Regardless of diaper break down, you should treat it like regular underpants and change them each day. 

[Cruiser 03]

Just ii iiIIfIf it's not doing well riding a bicycle  try wearing noke shorts with a onesie ,the leatjer pad will be some protection from gravity.and friction ,it's not. Like the extra padding will bother you !

For me I can.wear a double boosted double NS for 26 hrs friction.amd gravity  don't apply when your strapped into a 450 pound power,wheelchair and can't walk ( the upside of wheeled life ,LOL) it was an emergency ,normally.i am  changed every. 4 hours when I am catheterizeed .8f.you wear cheap store diapers expect alot of.diaper  failures (emergencies don't happen.when

Diapered is optional equipment )

 

 

 

[astrodiaper]

18 hours ago, ~Brian~ said:

@marinus18

If you are WEARING a diaper, you should wear it as long as you want, as long as you are not uncomfortable, or as long as it is not causing you any complications.  By complications, i mean any reactions, red marks, etc.  Usually, you should change a diaper AT the VERY LEAST, every 8 hours, (or at least that is what I do) and I USE them 24/7.  When you remove a diaper, you are removing the tabs, so you would have to switch up the diaper you are wearing each time you do this.  If you use them, the idea is to change when they are fully saturated or get unbearable.   I've had to change as few as twice a day, as many as 5 times a day, depending on what I have to do.

Diapers can break down after prolonged use, but it also matters WHAT diapers you get.  If you get the cheap stuff, then you will get the results of that choice.  If you are in a quality product, the likelihood that you will have a "severe breakdown" will be less.  I use the Megamaxes.  They are built as an incontinence diaper, and can take the use I put them through, but as @eatenbywo1vessays 12 hours is the limit, and @Dubious seems to also say that they are at max, designed to last for one day.

Remember, disposables can move with you, and they can sag and not feel good on you after a while:  the tapes hold it on, but after a while the diaper would have to be changed to allow for you to have it be snug and comfortable on your body.  Diapers can break down, as as I said, the better the diaper, the better the quality.

Good Luck!

Brian

I’m going to piggy back on this in regards to quality. I have worn the store brand diaper to sleep. (Not sure of Walmart or Walgreens though.). If I wear a diaper to bed, I will usually wet it when I wake up, or a bit after.  I don’t dare do that with the store brand diapers, due to the condition of the diaper. (Breakdown and fit.). I think the only reason I keep them around is if my (percieved) IBS-D is acting up on my night off, and I really want to wear a diaper. 

Edited December 31, 2020 by astrodiaper
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[Mark84]

This is, generally, how I wear diapers. I can wear one diaper a few times for a couple hours each time over the course of 2-3 days before the padding starts to bunch up and break down. Once it gets to that point I’ll either just throw it away or I’ll wet it and throw it away provided the padding isn’t too broken down to prevent any leaks. I use Tykables almost exclusively as I don’t get too many opportunities to wear (my wife prefers that I not wear around her). But they’re great in terms of the amount of padding and the tapes allow for re-fastening as needed!

[LittleAmytheil]

When I didn't wet my diapers, I would still change once a day- If for no other reason because the padding would start to break down, and I would change my regular underwear minimum once a day (Sometimes it was one during day and one during night).

[Evelyn Dellcerro]

The average price per diaper is .80 cents. An average case of diapers costs from 70 to 90 dollars. I just want to know why ? Thats all. Just why ?

[ValentinesStuff]

35 minutes ago, Evelyn Dellcerro said:

The average price per diaper is .80 cents. An average case of diapers costs from 70 to 90 dollars. I just want to know why ? Thats all. Just why ?

For the same reason this is $600.

https://www.especialneeds.com/special-tomato-eio-stroller-push-chair.html?m=Abstract&ne_ppc_id=843933812&gclid=CjwKCAiAxeX_BRASEiwAc1QdkQZjopnU37_BLRUHNn-3QQolkS8nQaoXYO5Cdu3k4amD3CM9E0dKMBoC2IUQAvD_BwE

 

Most are billed to insurance companies, and they just pay. AB diapers are basically priced off that.

[Evelyn Dellcerro]

18 minutes ago, ValentinesStuff said:

For the same reason this is $600.

https://www.especialneeds.com/special-tomato-eio-stroller-push-chair.html?m=Abstract&ne_ppc_id=843933812&gclid=CjwKCAiAxeX_BRASEiwAc1QdkQZjopnU37_BLRUHNn-3QQolkS8nQaoXYO5Cdu3k4amD3CM9E0dKMBoC2IUQAvD_BwE

 

Most are billed to insurance companies, and they just pay. AB diapers are basically priced off that.

I dont think you understood my reasoning sweetie. I ask why because I am not gonna spend good money to wear diapers as a fashion statement.. I am going to pee and poop and abuse the heck outta my diaper. I use my diaper as a bathroom !  Plus they are comfy and cushion hard seats. I am not going to wear a diaper and not use it. That bad boy is going to be wet and messy. Peace and love. Oh and sorry I wear my diaper for about five hours even if its messy. Then me and wife enjoy some good diaper sex when we get home.

[Snugglebear_69]

Not everyone enjoys the feeling of being wet or the smell and feeling of being messy. For some people they enjoy the feeling of a dry diaper and so does their partner. At the end of the day choosing not to wet or mess a diaper doesn't make it a fashion statement, it just makes it a choice that is as valid as any other choice.

[~Brian~]

4 hours ago, Evelyn Dellcerro said:

I dont think you understood my reasoning sweetie. I ask why because I am not gonna spend good money to wear diapers as a fashion statement.. I am going to pee and poop and abuse the heck outta my diaper. I use my diaper as a bathroom !  Plus they are comfy and cushion hard seats. I am not going to wear a diaper and not use it. That bad boy is going to be wet and messy. Peace and love. Oh and sorry I wear my diaper for about five hours even if its messy. Then me and wife enjoy some good diaper sex when we get home.

@ValentinesStuff

I agree with @Evelyn Dellcerrohere:  If your gonna USE the diaper as she would, as her bathroom, she is gonna want quality and the ability to "use and abuse" the diaper as it is intended:  You really have to understand what the diaper is gonna be used for:  If you really want to USE it, you want to let go in the thing, and you don't care about anything other than "I hope this thing will hold everything I am throwing at it!" 

The Cheap stuff, as eve says, is NOT designed for this purpose:  It is designed to be changed at the first sign of wetness, and is NOT designed to hold anything:  This is why I REFUSE the junk and go for the megas:  The use of anything else, and I'd be wetting the FLOOR and anything that I had on.  If I'm gonna wear diapers, I want and NEED and DEMAND the best:  I don't want something that will hold a cup of liquid and leak all over the floor, or all over me, my clothes, my socks, and everything else:  As I age, I don't want to worry about having an accident, because if I go, I want the diaper to deal with it, and I will deal with the change later:  I don't want a wet seat: That is what the diaper is for

I have, and continue to use my diapers for my bathroom, as Eve Does:  If I have to have a BM, I WANT that thing to be able to deal with whatever I throw at it:  If I release, I may have to wear it a while, because sometimes, you are not in a position to change, or you may NOT want to change right away, and you choose to wait.  When I needed it, because of being ill, or eating something that does not agree, or when I have to go, I am glad to have them  

Brian 

[ValentinesStuff]

6 hours ago, ~Brian~ said:

@ValentinesStuff

I agree with @Evelyn Dellcerrohere:  If your gonna USE the diaper as she would, as her bathroom, she is gonna want quality and the ability to "use and abuse" the diaper as it is intended:  You really have to understand what the diaper is gonna be used for:  If you really want to USE it, you want to let go in the thing, and you don't care about anything other than "I hope this thing will hold everything I am throwing at it!" 

The Cheap stuff, as eve says, is NOT designed for this purpose:  It is designed to be changed at the first sign of wetness, and is NOT designed to hold anything:  This is why I REFUSE the junk and go for the megas:  The use of anything else, and I'd be wetting the FLOOR and anything that I had on.  If I'm gonna wear diapers, I want and NEED and DEMAND the best:  I don't want something that will hold a cup of liquid and leak all over the floor, or all over me, my clothes, my socks, and everything else:  As I age, I don't want to worry about having an accident, because if I go, I want the diaper to deal with it, and I will deal with the change later:  I don't want a wet seat: That is what the diaper is for

I have, and continue to use my diapers for my bathroom, as Eve Does:  If I have to have a BM, I WANT that thing to be able to deal with whatever I throw at it:  If I release, I may have to wear it a while, because sometimes, you are not in a position to change, or you may NOT want to change right away, and you choose to wait.  When I needed it, because of being ill, or eating something that does not agree, or when I have to go, I am glad to have them  

Brian 

You've missed my point. I'm not saying use the cheap stuff. I'm saying the good diapers are overpriced. All "medical" equipment is way overpriced, because most of it payed for by insurance. A friend was looking for an adult sized crib. He found a "special needs" crib priced around $10,000. He had one custom built for about $1000.

That stroller I linked above, do you really think it costs 5 times as much to manufacture as one for a toddler? That was the second cheapest that company sells, the cheapest is a $500 umbrella type stroller, the more expensive ones are in the thousands of dollars.

[Evelyn Dellcerro]

21 hours ago, Snugglebear_69 said:

Not everyone enjoys the feeling of being wet or the smell and feeling of being messy. For some people they enjoy the feeling of a dry diaper and so does their partner. At the end of the day choosing not to wet or mess a diaper doesn't make it a fashion statement, it just makes it a choice that is as valid as any other choice.

Sweetie I enjoy your honesty and I do understand what you are saying, I truly do. That for me would be like buying a Ferrari 812 and doing 65 on the highway. It just ain't happening. I'm gonna fly like a bird. Love ya and peace.

[IndianaJ35]

I would like to participate briefly in this discussion.

I myself wear without wetting or soiling.  We could chalk it up to personal preference and not look any further, but I'm the type of person that looks for explanations for just about everything.  I wonder - could one's predilection for either wetting/soiling (or not) possibly tie back to whatever experiences he/she may have had with diapers as a child, and whether or not they were related to toilet training?  I know, pretty Freud-ish, but just a theory.

[astrodiaper]

14 hours ago, IndianaJ35 said:

I would like to participate briefly in this discussion.

I myself wear without wetting or soiling.  We could chalk it up to personal preference and not look any further, but I'm the type of person that looks for explanations for just about everything.  I wonder - could one's predilection for either wetting/soiling (or not) possibly tie back to whatever experiences he/she may have had with diapers as a child, and whether or not they were related to toilet training?  I know, pretty Freud-ish, but just a theory.

In my experience, some of my desire to wet and, to a lesser extent, soil diapers came about the same time I hit puberty, around 13.  I had an interest in diapers well before then, but the desire and actually doing it came around 12 or 13. Now, it seems to be a comfort thing, or a way to cope with things in my life, including some unresolved issues in my childhood. I’m currently not wearing as much as I have in the past, depression, other concerns, who knows?  I’ve come to realize that it comes and goes, and that this is a small part of my life. I there are times where I don’t actually use the diaper, and I chide myself for wasting it, but it too is something that happens. 

[~Brian~]

On 1/9/2021 at 10:28 PM, ValentinesStuff said:

You've missed my point. I'm not saying use the cheap stuff. I'm saying the good diapers are overpriced. All "medical" equipment is way overpriced, because most of it payed for by insurance. A friend was looking for an adult sized crib. He found a "special needs" crib priced around $10,000. He had one custom built for about $1000.

That stroller I linked above, do you really think it costs 5 times as much to manufacture as one for a toddler? That was the second cheapest that company sells, the cheapest is a $500 umbrella type stroller, the more expensive ones are in the thousands of dollars.

@ValentinesStuff

[NOTE:  I posted this and now am editing it, because of the length of the post, and because I don't want to lose a post again when some strange thing happened, so I may continue to add to this posting as necessary, posting and editing it as necessary. ~Brian~]

I am sorry if i misunderstood your point:  I GOT it: The medical equipment industry provides a GREAT service to the disabled community, IF they are reputable, and responsible, and KNOWLEDGEABLE about what you NEED, and they don't try to "upsell" you on things that you do not need, that cost insurance more money.  I am fortunate that I have a good PT, a Good ATP tech, (equipment specialist), excellent Funding Specialists, and tech support, and I've used the same company for going on 5 wheelchairs.  All I said to the tech was: "If its ON this chair NOW, its GONNA be on the new one, minus the upgrades."

I have been "disabled" all my life, and any equipment that I have had, be it walkers, crutches, shoes, braces, wheelchairs, have been paid for by insurance, and they LOVE to figure out ways to make the equipment expensive.  Lets take an example;

I used to have to wear the type 2 Braces:  They would attach to my shoes, and had the ability to be removed in rare circumstances, when I didn't need them, and all other times, they would be in the caliper holes and in use on my legs.  In order to do this, they would take a pair of $100 Tyrolians (Shoes), and then they would REMOVE the treads and add a padded arch, the calipers, the T-Straps to help my ankle hold position, and they added toe caps (White caps to protect the top of the shoes from damage)  They added a sole that didn't have any traction, and I had to go to my driveway, and SCUFF the hell outta them, since they hurt like hell for a few weeks, while I broke them IN:  They cost $650 for the work they did, and if they had to change the braces, you had to add more.

Now, lets talk about "adaptive equipment" and "diapers"  I also checked out that site you gave, and it does provide the products that it sells, to people with disabilities, and it helps those individuals.  The site has the words "special needs" in its title, and so, I believe that THAT is a reason for the the prices that they charge.  Barring the fact that we all grow up, and we don't need strollers, or mobility devices anymore as we are able to walk and ambulate around, most kids can walk and be able to go with their parents anywhere, and they don't need to be restrained or be in a stroller, because they have the ability to to follow their parents verbal instructions, and they can just wait with them.  Strollers are good for kids that get tired, and they don't have the energy or stamina to be able to do that.

ADAPTIVE EQUIPMENT: STROLLERS AND "PUSH CHAIRS" AND WHEELCHAIRS

Strollers and what they call "push chairs" in the UK, are what I consider to be a "Phase One Device."  This is because most children use these from the time they graduate from a carrier/stroller where they are in a "baby seat: until I will say 6 or 7 years old.  Once they reach this age, they can usually walk or be carried short distances no problem (My Dad could do it all the way til I was 14)  Strollers or "Push Chairs" are usually used by children who cannot walk, or need support or special accommodations, such as bolster rolls, extra padding, restraint straps, positioning straps and maybe even abduction wedge blocks, to keep the knees/legs apart.  When You have a child that NEEDS this type of system, then it becomes a "medical device" and THAT is when it becomes expensive.  My Late Brother Richard had this type of "stroller/pushchair" He never got to use a full wheelchair like me, or to go power:  He was able to be serviced by this type of device.  He would NOT be a candidate for a Phase Two Device (wheelchair)

Wheelchairs with "Cane" push handles are what I consider to be a "Phase Two Device"   These are NOT strollers or Push Chairs, but they could be fitted with Umbrella handles instead of back canes: These devices are used by children and adults who have enough trunk control that they can sit in the chair, and they may be able to push the chair themselves, and have a helper push them when needed.  Children and adults may still need restraint straps, or positioning straps or other things, but they can usually move themselves around if they have the arm strength and stamina.  Being in the right position, and sitting properly (They used to say to me "Sitting Up Tall" when I was a kid) makes a heck of a difference.  It is also good to have a seatbelt in your ride, in case you "roll it" or flip over.  I've done that once, and it was a shock, because my "anti tip tubes" got caught in a hole, and I could not correct for it:  My Chair is coded "K108" which means "lightweight" and it also qualifies as BOTH a "standard manual" and a "complex power chair"  This is because I have what they call E-Motion M-15 Power Assist Wheels along with a charger and a control medallion that I use to control the chair (On/Off/LOW/HIGH/Hold/Lock)  When I say it is "BOTH" it is because i can remove my wheels and add the stock 24" pneumatic tires, or with my new chair, when it comes, the current one becomes the backup, and this will allow me to quickly jump to it and go if i need to.  I have limited control of what and how my wheels react and can adjust sensitivity and things on the hand rim, but that's about it. I think mine cost in 2014 about $20,000, and my batteries are $900 a piece, and my charger is $400.

Wheelchairs that have FULL POWER Features are what I consider a "Phase Three" Device.  These are used by Children and Adults when  they cannot push themselves, but they can use a joystick or a push rod or a straw to command the chair to move when they want it.  This chair comes with any features that are needed.  This could be any Bolster rolls, extra padding, restraint straps, etc, and can be modified because the computer can be administered and programmed by the tech.  I have friends that have full tilt, Full recline, and full lift, that can raise them up at least enough to reach things on higher shelves, and be able to recline all the way back almost FLAT.  These things usually have the ability to exchange the "power deck" (where the wheels are) and the seat frame, so even a little 7 year old can use the power deck of a Jazzy or a Quantum, because the seat frame is made for that child or adult, and all they do is decide what deck they put under it.

Because of the complexity, these FULL POWER chairs cost as much as what my Mom's father (My Grandfather) paid for one of his Cadillacs.  I think one of them cost $57,000, which Grampa paid OUTRIGHT.  I understand the Chargers for these bad boys can be $200 or more, but If you NEED it, there are ways to cover it.  It all depends on what you need, and each option you ADD will cost you more money.  Even a simple Oxygen (o2) holder can cost $80-$100, and a simple backpack about $100.  Batteries can be expensive too:  Depending on if you need Group 22's or Group 24's. (Based on what options you have on the chair)

COST

The question now is, should the equipment that I laid out actually COST what it does?  Could a company make my chair for $1,000, rather than $20,000?  Can they make a Power Chair for $8,000 to $10,000?  I don't know, but I do agree that I see costs rising, and I honestly think that insurance companies control what you can get, what you have available to choose from, and what they will and will not pay for.  I have talked to my brother, and he thinks my chair could be made for about $600, and the wheels maybe $1,000.  It comes down to the way stuff is "coded."  Remember when I said my chair is coded a "K108?"  That comes up as "Complex Power Chair" which mine is classified.  When they do that, they KNOW what we are dealing with, and the tech can look at what I have and also look at past orders, repairs, chair configurations, and PT/OT notes about what we talk about:  They customize these things to a "T" and they fit the user like a Glove, or a Comfy Disposable or Cloth Diaper.

 

DIAPERS

OK, lets talk Diapers now:  Lets face it, we start life, we pop out, we get cleaned up, and they diaper us.  We Start life in Diapers, and if we don't have the control we had in our younger days, we may use them, and as we get older, we may be using diapers.  We Start in Diapers, and we will probably be using them when we are of advanced age.  Being a baby is easy, because diapers do NOT have to be special ordered, and you can go to a local shop around here, such as a Walgreens, a Walmart, a Shaws, a Price Chopper, or any grocery store, and you GOT diapers - Pretty easy, pretty necessary if you have kids.  Once you reach the age when conventional diapers don't fit, and you need them, you have to go ONLINE or get medicaid to cover them.

Now, we have a problem, because they give us limited choices:  They give us the Low end, cheap diapers, rather than the ones I use like the Megamaxes.  They want us to "try" diapers that are NOT diapers, and they don't hold much, and they are NOT designed to do so.  They base this on what?  They think that I, or someone who helps me is gonna change every HOUR to 2 HOURS?  Man, do these FOOLS need to be diapered and forced to release BOTH PEE and POOP, and we'll SEE how fast they change their tune, when they CAN'T change themselves, and have to wait for a LONG time:  Good diapers, quality diapers and EXCELLENT diapers are in a class, and you have to INSIST on the plastic backed, if you want to be able to trust what you are wearing.  Even @Evelyn Dellcerrowill wear hers longer then 2 HOURS, and she KNOWS what her diapers will hold, and how to make sure they stay the way she wants them to.  Two HOURS?? HAA HAA HAAA hahahahahaah   I think she said she can wear hers up to 5 HOURS, and if I am properly protected, I can wear mine for 8 HOURS.

The way medicaid and other insurance works is, they want to have you try the least expensive approach FIRST, and then they help you, if you can prove the need for the better products.  You should have a selection of QUALITY diapers, at a REASONABLE Price, but since medicaid here in VT can pay $13 (reimbursement) per diaper script, and the good diapers are $24-$35/bag, the reimbursement rate SUCK like a vacuum cleaner, and there are NO companies that can compete with that!  However, this does not excuse the people who make decisions on WHAT products they will cover, and which they will NOT.  People NEED plastic backed diapers, as @NorthShoreAdamknows, because the other diapers just don't CUT it:  They want us to be in a position where we are just barely able to deal with what we have going on, and that is about it:  I have PROVEN my need for plastic backed diapers, and i use them, and I think that it is time for insurance companies to understand (Medicare included) that if they would NOT use the products that they authorize, because they are/were substandard, or low quality, WHY would they authorize cloth backed "tissues" for FULL BLOWN severe incontinence?  

These people can get away with authorizing this trash, because they DON'T USE Diapers, or understand the reasoning for the request.  They don't have to deal with the "stigmas" the incontinence, the embarrassment, or the changing of the products.  If we were all two years old, then diapers like we used in the 70's and even 80's/90's would be awesome, but we are not, and that is why we have AB/DL aware companies that can replicate diapers that we grew up with:  They LOOK like Pampers, Luvs, Huggies and others, and they can be used to give a little "flair" to having to deal with incontinence:  If you accept that you have to wear, or you choose to wear, the reason for the AB/DL diapers is to add a little "slice" of what it was like to be little again, and there are people who do this

As For Costs:  Making diapers does cost money, and you are making a diaper in an adult size, and sometimes, you make the diapers that are considered "AB/DL" and I have even had to TELL medicaid to look at them, because those are the diapers that are plastic backed, and can hold a lot:  I've even had to say I have "severe bladder and bowel incontinence" because I don't want to mess around anymore:  I have had Poop accidents in my own BED because of diverticulitis and IBS, and the diapers I had did NOT cut it, until  I had Northshore Megamaxes:  Medicaid has to see that the quality of the product should be HIGH, not LOW!

When will Medicaid see this?  I don't know: But I swear, I would like to see some of these fools be in diapers they authorize: and then NOT be changed for hours and see if they think they have a prayer of having them last.  I am sure they would complain, and maybe @Evelyn Dellcerrocould "school them" about this, because she'd enema these fools and we'd see how fast they would just explode as they just release in their diapers hehehehee FOOLS!

Should medical diapers cost a fortune?  Probably not: But if you have companies that accept medicaid, they will try to "low ball" you, and pay as little as they can get away with, and that is why many companies don't DEAL with state medicaid programs, because they KNOW what happens, they get the low shitty reimbursements 

My question:  Why can't we get QUALITY plastic backed products and services without having to try stuff that does not work?  Quality Products mean that someone can live the life they want, and cost, when it comes to LIFE should not be a constraint.  My Dad will need special equipment for his trachea, because he will have to service it, clean it, suction out the junk and whatever else he needs:  Does cost matter here?  Yes and NO, because LIFE is more important than the cost of what you need to live:  If you NEED it, and I don't care if you are talking Wheelchairs, Diapers, Communication Devices, medicine, comfort devices (recliners, o2, nebulizers, etc), there are WAYS to do it, and it makes me mad:  They always want us to go low first:  I won't have to do that with my diapers, because I have PROVEN that plastic backed ones work for me, and the company in NH does a GREAT job doing what they do for me.

I also noticed that you talked about a crib:  I have seen cribs for babies, and I have seen them for disabled individuals.  I have seen children in cribs if they are older, and have conditions that require a bed that is more secure for them.  Have you ever heard of (Angelman Syndrome Or "Happy Puppet Syndrome") 

I have seen kids with this disorder in cribs because this protects them.  If you need a crib or a special bed then it's gonna cost something, but I agree:  $10,000 for that??  $1,000 is more reasonable, or even $2,000 if you need to outfit it more - WOW!

In Conclusion, I agree that costs can be ridiculous.  This is caused by the complexity of the equipment you need, the specialists that you need to deal with, and the insurance company.  Any company selling anything dubbed "special needs" already adds THOUSANDS of dollars to the price because they KNOW that we need it, and they can charge out your diaper heehehe

Take care, and Oh, By the way, My New CHAIR has been FULLY approved!!!

Brian

 

Edited January 11, 2021 by ~Brian~
Posted and edited in 3 parts due to post length and fear of post loss

[~Brian~]

On 1/10/2021 at 11:05 AM, Evelyn Dellcerro said:

Sweetie I enjoy your honesty and I do understand what you are saying, I truly do. That for me would be like buying a Ferrari 812 and doing 65 on the highway. It just ain't happening. I'm gonna fly like a bird. Love ya and peace.

@Evelyn Dellcerro

If you had a Ferrari 812, you'd better be 'a Drivin' up here to see me, and take Me for a Ride in that thing!  You would be the talk of the town, a Ferrari in this town would be awesome, but not sure how we would be able to go fast.  My cousin Mike and @AwakenEvil both have Mustangs, and I bet my Diaper that those darn things would be layin' some RUBBER on the roadway.

And YES, Eve, you would be a'goin as fast as you can hehehehe   YEEHAW!!!  Love you hon *kiss*

Brian

[AwakenEvil]

26 minutes ago, ~Brian~ said:

@Evelyn Dellcerro

If you had a Ferrari 812, you'd better be 'a Drivin' up here to see me, and take Me for a Ride in that thing!  You would be the talk of the town, a Ferrari in this town would be awesome, but not sure how we would be able to go fast.  My cousin Mike and @AwakenEvil both have Mustangs, and I bet my Diaper that those darn things would be layin' some RUBBER on the roadway.

And YES, Eve, you would be a'goin as fast as you can hehehehe   YEEHAW!!!  Love you hon *kiss*

Brian

I live my life a quarter mile at a time!

[~Brian~]

10 minutes ago, AwakenEvil said:

I live my life a quarter mile at a time!

@Evelyn Dellcerro@AwakenEvil

Sometimes, I wish my wheelchair could go fast:  Its like my car or Eve's Car or @Transfusionelle's TRUCK:  Each has their own top speed, and can go fast, but then do you really wanna see a cop on your tail?  Driving I can not do in the traditional way, since I can't drive a car, but my CHAIR is awesome, and some day, would like to be able to do a run where I could safely go to somewhere, like @~ashley~ plans her bike rides and does really well:  My arms would be as BIG as iron bars if i could do that *grin*

Hey You and eve could have a race, and I could ride with the winner pulling me hehehehehe

Brian