PP Rebel

I agree that amongst large swathes of young generations, in countries like the UK, discrimination due to gender identity, sexual orientation & race aren't the big issues they used to be & I applaud the progress which has been made...In this case, you have 2 young men, perhaps naive & idealistic, who had been involved with the official 'Vote Leave' Brexit Campaign & were horrified about all the dirty tricks, public deception & dodgy money which was involved in the process & implicated people in high places. So they decided to act as whistleblowers & spill the beans...As part of the resulting orchestrated smear & intimidation exercise against them, one was outed as being Gay... What makes this such a despicable act is he has family living in a part of the world where being Gay is still unacceptable, making his family liable to be set upon by religious fundamentalists...Events which the British Secret Service might if they chose to, even be in a position to influence through the use of Proxy agents...Enough of Politicking, for now, time to get back to fetish talk.

I think It's not so much that Political Elites are out of touch with ordinary people it's more a case of not really giving damn about them. The whole thing is riddled with sleaze, corruption & dirty tricks & I don't doubt the Vote Leave whistleblowers were correct. Although I expect similar goes for Remain as Brexit. As the adage goes if you want to understand what's really going on try following the money.

I've only just started to experiment with diapers so it's mainly pants pooping for me. It not all the time. Like others, it depends on factors such as time & what commitments I have. whose else is around, what sort of poop I think is coming, how frustrated I'm feeling with life & how long it was since I got some sexual relief.

Usually my 'Birthday Suit' but sometimes a long T-shirt in the winter. I'm not a habitual bed wetter so don't need to wear anything. If I'm planning to have a deliberate accident, which is a once in a while thing, I wear 2 ply cotton incontinence pants with a built-in waterproof membrane. Just starting to experiment with diapers & plan on wearing a pair to bed one night real soon.

I like cream which I think of as a traditional color. I think off whites are nice but not sure about dark colours or patterned designed... but everyone to their own.

I've just bought my very 1st adult diaper/ nappy. I opted for a modern cloth contoured design with leg gussets & some elastic at the back of the waistband. Love wearing it!!... but a major concern is the loud noises velcro fasteners make when I pull them apart or do an adjustment for comfort. Sound travels where I live & the neighbours can be nosey & ask awkward questions. I'm wondering about the different fastening arrangements which are available & the pro's & cons of each .. Please, could you help me?

NO ..Because of the time involved, costs, inconvenience & likelihood of it becoming common knowledge & having to spend my life putting up with smart-arsed jibes ... Like a lot of more public knowledge things which I enjoy doing in life such as having a few beers in a bar, going to a concert or the theatre. watching a ball game etc etc... It makes a great personal treat & something to look forward to, but I fear it would become a chore if turned into a 24/7 pursuit...But as others have pointed out its a lifestyle choice, which doesn't have to involve inflicting deliberate hurts on others, it's not like your bombing innocent Syrians & Iraqi's, or poison gassing & beheading them if they don't share your beliefs. So, go for it & put on diapers become dependent on them if you're sure that's what you really want to do... Any of us can end up becoming unavoidably incontinent due to an accident or medical condition & if that happens your life is a precious gift so do your best & try to make the most of it.

YES, a man can dream..Having just one or two people to help you fill your diaper, or lend you theirs when they've finished using it..Sounds like a very interesting idea!!!

I also get excited about other people filling their pants/panties particularly women. With me, it needs to be someone who deliberately does healthy poos in their pants because they enjoy it & are keen to share their enjoyment with me. It doesn't do anything for me if its due to illness &/or embarrassing misfortune. I just feel sorry for the people..The tale of your Aunt Anne sounds like an intriguing enigma?

Yepp I love pooping my pants & have done it deliberately off & on since I was an adolescent In recent years I've gone over to using pants which are designed with faecal incontinence in mind. They look like a standard pair of briefs but are made with 2 layers of cotton & a concealed waterproof lining. The main shortfall in regular supermarket briefs is the elastic around the waist & legs doesn't seem to be nearly as strong as it used to be & the standard of containment is very poor. But I guess most regular users only want them to stay up & don't need it too tight. Some modern contoured boxers made with elastane are nice to poo in but they're relatively expensive to buy & stain up really easily. ... I like to chat with people about this too.

I've done this a few times lovsmessydiapers with no injurious effects on my health. We're all a bit different & if its something you feel you've got to try I would say YES to giving it a go but proceed with caution. There are pros & cons. It's not something I'm exactly straining at the bit to repeat at the current time. The pro side is that I love having a big mess in my pants & so long as it's not damaging to my health & I can keep it a secret from people who I don't want to find out about it, the bigger mass of poo I can get inside them the better I like it. I usually mess my pants instead of a diaper. It's a pastime which is sexually charged for me & putting on a pair which is already full of poo & then adding a fresh load excites me like crazy. I'm not an MD or microbiologist but I believe poo consists of waste products which already rotting down & full of germs & bacteria before you push it out. After its left your body it will cool down & all sorts of secondary processes will start taking place. It will also attract new germs, bacteria, flies & creepy crawlies. If you want to re-use your poo I think the safest thing to do is to get a big microwave proof bowl with a 'Tupperware' type sealed top & a pull-push vent flap built into it. Instead of putting your used diaper in there I would suggest either pooing straight into it like a potty or emptying into the container a big ball of poo out of your diaper in the same way as you probably do when you flush it down the toilet. Then seal the container & store it in a cool safe place. When you want to reuse your poo, preferably sooner rather than later, stick the bowl in a microwave & heat it up to boiling point which will sterilize it & kill off most of the nasties. Then let it cool down to body temperature before you use it, being careful that it's cooled down significantly in the middle as well as the outside. This is VERY IMPORTANT because you don't want to end up in an accident & emergency hospital unit & have to explain the burns to your bottom. Also, be warned when you heat it up it will stink like hell, & there needs to be an escape hole in the top of the container to let out any steam otherwise it's likely to explode !! You can put already filled pants or a diaper into the container & seal it up. But unless its a very basic pinned reusable cloth diaper (with the safety pins removed) there will be real issues heating it up enough to sterilize the contents without seriously damaging the diaper or pants. If you put your used diaper back on cold the poo feels rather nasty to me although it's not without a certain amount of excitement. You can try heating it up to body temperature, with a short burst of the microwave or weighing it down in a bigger bowl of hot water, which will make it more comfortable to put on but this won't kill off the germs. I can fully appreciate why people recommend making up a poop substitute to either use instead poop or to bulk the load up. I've tried this but somehow it doesn't do it for me although its undoubtedly it's a lot less smelly & more hygienic. I find hardcore scat stomach churning & I've no desire to smother myself from head to foot in poop, eat the stuff, or not thoroughly wash my hands after coming into contact with it for that matter. But unfortunately, it's not nearly as exciting for me if my pants aren't genuinely full up with poo. Having said this reusing an old mess is a smelly rigmarole. Although I enjoy writing about this topic, & discussing it with likeminded people, I only really get drawn into pooing myself when I'm feeling frustrated. After I've messed myself, wallowed in it a while & shot my load I lose interest. Then I just want to thoroughly clean up & wash my sins away. The prospect of having bowls of old poop or messed pants hid around the place, is something I generally view as being pretty nasty & unappealing.

Developing an Interest in using diapers is new to me & I hadn't considered this problem. People who enjoy doing one thing or another in their pants usually get around the problem by pulling back one area or another & going to the toilet with their pants on, which would be a difficult procedure in thickly padded nappies. The technique would probably be feasible if you put on something like AB potty training pants or adult padded urinary incontinence pants instead of diapers. Perhaps not be the same for you. If you don't like doing #2's in your diaper looks like the only way around the situation would be to take it off. do your business using the toilet & then put them back on again. I'm the opposite so I take my pants down to wee then put them on again. As long as I'm relaxed & go easy I find I can manage this ok. Not sure how easy it would be the other way round though... Another approach might be to try varying your meal times if its practical, or maybe have a coffee as soon as you get in to see if you could alter the time of day you need to do your #2.

I love everything about doing a big firm load apart from the smell, which is more about not wanting to get found out & consideration for others who find it distasteful than a personal turn off. I think of it as a performance art in which I'm the producer, performer & audience rolled into one. The feeling of a build up in my bowels, the anticipation of doing the dirty deed,& selection of briefs or whatever to do it in. Then there's the physically of pushing it out which always feels very cathartic, together with the involuntary pee squirts, it's as if I'm getting rid of all my built up social tensions & frustrations. Then, when you're loaded, there the big warm mass & the way it molds to your bum. The way it spreads out slips down, & bounces around as you move around. The sheer weight of it stretched fabric rubs against you which I find very auto-erotic. The amusing Charlie Chaplin walk, feeling over the bulge & seeing it in the mirror. No forgetting the final intense orgasm which sometimes just happens hands-free, by hand or dry hump while squeezing my buttock & thighs. Even the cleanup which isn't my favourite part of it is a bit of a physical & mental challenge which helps to keep my body working & brain alert.

When people wee & poo I notice sometimes a cascade of pee comes 1st followed by the poop. At other times their pee doesn't start until they relax after pushing out their 1st poop. It's something which amuses me. I'm fascinated to know which happens 1st for you when you go & what the determining factors might be?

I'm predominantly straight but do enjoy a man to man get together once in a while. I really love playing with another guys cock, sensually licking & sucking on it & having it in my mouth. But I've not yet taken anyone's cum although I expect it's going to happen unexpectedly sooner or later. I feel a bit safer about it this way. It generally finishes up with other guy wanking himself off in front of me, proudly proclaiming how he's coming & me not really interested in it. People say how good it is when they sense it starting throb to in their mouth & then jacking so maybe I should give it a go? Of course, I've sampled my own cum so I know what it tastes like.

"The Treachery of Images" René Magritte

Good question ppdude my reply to Onzl was rather cryptic & related to some shared interests. Not sure how much detail you want/need me to go into but here goes & apologies if a lot of this you know already. Its fairly common knowledge a lot of popular children's tales have double meanings & connotations which young children aren't aware ( innuendo, double entendre, puns.etc). At one level if its a family show then you have to keep both the adults & the kids entertained at the same time. For example, I recall seeing a Christmas Pantomime on the telly in which a gay camp comic with stage name Julian Cleary (Queer-He LOL!!) was playing the part of a cat wearing a silly costume standing up. There was a running joke .. whenever the cat was introduced to a new member of the cast he got asked: “shouldn't you be on all fours?”. This has both an innocent meaning which the young kids got about cats walking on 4 legs & humans on 2 but at the same time was a reference to gay sex positions which members of the cast + adults & some of the older kids in the audience got. Some of the younger children were no doubt left wondering why their parents & older brothers & sisters found it so funny with some whispering going on between the kids to explain it to each other !! This practice of double meanings is also used in the adult world to get around censorship & possibility of being sued for libel. Having a double 'hidden' meaning particularly relating to references to drugs & sex & insinuations about what prominent people are up to can be used to exploit to loopholes in the law & deny intent. There are often 'in-jokes' because the children's writer is basing characters on acquaintances or prominent people & making fun of them, with reference to aspects of their life which are scandalous or illicit. For instance, its claimed the author Lewis Carroll who wrote Alice in Wonderland & was part of a hedonistic & bohemian social circle. His characters are based on members of this circle. For example, the White Rabbit & Cheshire Cat were drugs fiends he knew & the Queen of Hearts (Off with their heads LOL!!) was based on a domineering transvestite. At a deeper level, people ask questions about whether there isn't sometimes a more complete hidden narrative or coded message in stories & other documents rather than just a succession of gags. For example the film the Da Vinci Code. This can be claimed to have been put there deliberately, for example, secret society initiatives, messages about hidden treasures, etc.etc. Some psychoanalysts go a step further claiming it's subconscious & the author is using dream images or is carrying repressed secrets which at one level they need to share with others but at another level are repressing. If you want to go into this in more depth I found reading 'The Forgotten Language' by Eric Fromm really interesting. Although it's quite an old book now & probably better more recent stuff available perhaps even somewhere on YouTube? One example Fromm gives is the tale of Little Red Riding Hood which summons up the image of a little girl in a red cape, But Little Red Riding Hood was also a slang term used to describe the vagina of a young woman whose menstrual cycles have started. So its claimed there's a hidden narrative in which the girl is told she needs to find her way to Grandma in the forest, who is a fountain of inherited knowledge, wisdom & experience, for help & advice on sexual matters & her coming of age. Keeping her bottle sealed & intact on the way is allegedly a reference to sexual penetration of her hymen. But she's also set to encounter the devious predatory wolf who wants to eat her up. All this hidden narrative interpretation stuff can get bewildering because if we decide the authors can put unconscious meanings into their stories then we can do the same by giving them meanings which aren't really there because we need to satisfy our own inner psychological needs. Sometimes referred to as projection. This topic often comes up in debates about conspiracy theories. See for example discussions about Stanly Kubrick films particularly 'The Shining' & sequences in the film with visual imagery which have references to Apollo & the Moon Landings. Back to Roald Dahl, whom I'm no expert on & Onzl's exclamation 'Now I'm wondering just what Willy Wonka was really about?' The name Willy Wonka is bit odd isn't it. Willy is a common slang for a guys penis. Is Wonka an intended pun for Wanker? Or is it a pun on Wonky used in slang to describe someone bent, odd & possibly perverted. Or even a combination of the 2? Also 'chocolate factory' is slang for arsehole & pooping sometimes employed by people with related interests. And some of the other terms have double meanings such as Fudge Pump(er) which in slang describes a sleazy dominant guy who goes in for anal sex. There's a whole load of stuff around about candy & hidden references to phallic symbols, drugs & sex. Things which are tempting, particularly to kids, but can also be addictive & sickening, Early in the last century Candy sticks were used as a slang reference for cocaine which came in stick form which was also claimed to improve sexual stamina. For an example listen to Mississippi John Hurt's song. 'Candy Man Blues' which is pretty explicit. There's also a folk song 'The Big Rock Candy Mountain' which Berl Ives, Harry McClintock & others recorded. A song regarded as suitable for children about a wonderful mythical land where handouts grow on bushes & there ain't no wind Rain or Snow where Hobo's want to head for to spend the winter. But its also been claimed some hoboes were pedophiles who'd been railroaded out of their homes & tried to tempt children to come along with them. Once I was told this some of the symbolism in the song took on a distinctly sinister turn. Back to Willy Wonka & his factory again. On the surface, he's presented as a likable moralistic eccentric & the story delights children. But he's also got a sinister side. He peddles stuff which makes people sick, fat & rots their teeth. He sacked all the workers in his factory & has replaced them all by migrant Oompa Loompa's from Africa & callously disposes of the more obnoxious children with "Golden Tickets" in a criminal manner. Now just in case, you're thinking did Roald Dahl go in for sexual stuff? Take a look at his adult stories like those in 'Switch Bitch' & 'My Uncle Oswald' In fact Willy Wonka's latest invention is a lickable wallpaper which enables you to taste fruits when you lick the wall.”Lick an orange it tastes like an Orange...The strawberries tastes like strawberries! The snozzberries taste like snozzberries” So what's a snozzberry? In My Uncle Oswald, it's the name one of the characters Yasmin Howcomely gives for guys penises. Of ccourse, all these possible different meanings & interpretations can fascinate us & mean the stories we 1st hear as children can stay in our minds & give us things to think about for the rest of our lives. So perhaps deliberate ambiguities which keep us guessing & inspire debate, are part of the success formula. Maybe we each have to discover our own personal meanings to our lives & stories have the power to puzzle us, inspire us & help us to work things out for ourselves?

Not forgetting his chocolate factory LOL!!.. I guess you're thinking along similar lines about Little Red Red Riding Hood?

Thank you Onzl for some very Interesting observations. My pants pooping preoccupations, & interest in others wetting & messing themselves appear to be a lot more sexually charged than most on here. But I do find I'm much more likely to be drawn to it at times when I feel frustrated, driven by others expectations, & not in control of my life. Less so when I'm being more creative & self-driven particularly when I'm engaging in tactile artistic type pursuits. It's as if pooing myself is a rebellious outlet for frustrated needs to be creative & express myself. Agree, there's a physiological aspect to wearing pants or a diaper full of poo. The way the mass molds itself to you & presses in between your legs & around your bum, plus the taught fabric rubbing across the genital area. For physiological reasons, I tend to think of pooping as being inclined towards the masculine & wetting as being more feminine. This notion may be a personal projection on my part. I love seeing women peeing themselves but I'm not much interested in men wetting & rarely go in for it myself. Wonder what others think? It should by now be apparent I'm interested in the psychoanalytical side of things. Occasionally, if I remember one of my dreams I write it down & have a stab at interpretation. Also, it's not as if sexual orgasms aren't associated with inducing periods of sleep. So next time I'm wearing pooed pants/ diaper in bed, have just shot my load & I'm thinking 'this isn't enjoyable any longer I want to change myself' maybe I will hang back, see if I can get to sleep, & find out what sort of dreams I have.

I've often thought it would be really wonderful to wake up in the morning to discover I'd filled my pants or diaper full of poo in the night without being aware of it. But I've never managed to achieve this except perhaps when I've had a bout of diarrhea which I really don't enjoy. Firstly I have big problems getting to sleep when my bowels are full. Secondly, I find it very difficult to poo without consciously pushing particularly lying down. Thirdly when I'm wearing pooed pants in bed I get so sexually aroused I invariably have an involuntary orgasm & then lose interest & want to clean myself up. On the odd occasion when I've been so tired that I've managed to get to sleep in a mess I've woken again with a raging hard-on not long afterward. It's maybe for the best. In order to manage it, I'd probably have to either be so pissed/stoned out of mind there would be a risk of accidentally killing myself by asphyxiation in my sleep or I'd have become clinically incontinent which isn't one of my ambitions.

Me too.Can happen any hour of the day or night but a little while after my morning coffee is most frequent. If I'm going to poo myself I often hold on to it for an hour or two longer. That way I'm more likely to do a nice big load & I'm also ready to get up & do a few chores around my home at the same time.

100% DL ..I've got nothing against AB's, it's just not my thing.

Hi I'm Jon from SE London / North Kent

Not sure what being "a normie" is & if such people really exist. But yes I'd give this fetish a miss if I had the choice because it does tend to be isolating & put a barrier of secrecy between myself & others. Thankfully its non-violent & harmless & doesn't involve me in forcing anyone to do anything against their will. I could have ended up with a lot worse. do

Very Occasionally. Generally, prior to pooping myself, I have a big internal debate about whether I'm going to do it or not. Issues like having better things to do in life which it's going to interfere with + privacy & whether there are people around who I don't want to find out. Also what sort of poop is likely to come out as I don't like it stinky & runny. I get indications if the need to poo comes on suddenly & I get stomach cramps but I'm never 100% certain. Mostly when I've used the toilet its the right decision & time to forget about it & move .. but just once in a while, I do look down at it with regret.