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Last night in the UK, Channel 4 TV station aired the documentary '15 Stone Baby' http://www.dailydiap...showtopic=35466

Immediately after the TV show had started my FB page was full of comments by 'friends' posting how disgusting it was that grown ups wanted to dress as babies and use nappies to wet and mess. Their postings were added to by their FB contacts pretty much saying the same thing with descriptions such as freaks and sicko's. As we were watching it together, my lovely G/F mentioned that her FB 'friends' and their friends were saying pretty much the same thing.

Interestingly for me one of my contacts who works in the same industry I do was particularly scathing, even though I know his lifestyle involves attending fetish clubs wearing leather skirts and prefering to date women who are clinically obese.

The TV reviewer who submits to the UK publication I work on also bad mouthed the show and the participants in his weekly column

I really don't understand how this choice of 'kink' gets such a hard time when other things that I would considering equally unusual seem to get away scot free.

For my own part, as I mentioned above, watching it with my OH made me feel a little ashamed. In the main I'm a DL, have had feelings to wear and wet from a very early age and have only started to have leanings towards the AB side due to the level of closeness I enjoy with my partner who helps me with my 'thing'

I still have issues about whether my mommie enjoys babying me or whether she accepts it to keep me happy and at some point in the near future will reject me and my kink so seeing what the UK wife does for her husband made me think that I'm maybe asking a bit much of her.

Any other members here have negative comments about the show last night and how did watching other people involved in an AB lifestyle make you feel about your own personal interests?

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Guest *~Andi~*

although I have a lot of ppl from Dd on my fb page. Id be interested to post a link to the page on my fb just to see the response I would get from my fb friends. Im stateside and I have a lot of ppl who classify themselves as non- judgmental. This would definitely bring out that aspect of how well that judgemental aspect might be in them... o.O hmmm.

Thats sad tho. Ppl shouldnt be so adversed to what other ppl do. Even those who classify themselves as vanilla have fantasies, regardless of whether they act upon them. I am going to watch the uploaded doc on youtube tonight.

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The show is the #1 trending topic on twitter in the UK. The comments are of course quite predictable. 'they are all pedos' etc. Posted of course by the same people who go home to spank their partners, play other sex games and watch porn and read '50 shades of badly written crap'. Hypocrisy is alive and well!

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I think it has more to do with urine and feces. For some reason our culture is repulsed by body waste. We use deodorant to mask the smell of our sweat, and flushing toilets to rid the waste and the smell, bathroom fans, etc. For many the thought of sitting around in a wet diaper is repugnant for that very reason. Don't judge too harshly. Those who are repulsed by our fetish or, in my case, physical disability (incontinence) and fetish, do things that repulse me. Some eat lima beans. :o Others eat lutfisk (Swedish spelling)! :bash: Whatever it is, I am very quick to make a very negative judgment. We all are. Just take the criticism and reaction for what it is. Bad judgment.

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nah... the comments are mainly about paedophilia and I have nothing but contempt for people who are that stupid that they draw a connection between wearing a nappy and child sex abuse. Stupid people offend me and most of the tweets come from obviously stupid people. end of rant...

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well honestly, a grown adult wanting to shit and piss themselves IS disgusting in many ways.....

and this is how people are seeing it... a grown man/woman, dressing up as a little girl or boy, and shitting and pissing themself....

put that way.. it sounds gross!

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Sarah-ab.

An adult wanting to piss or shit ones self is no more disgusting to me than seeing some women layer on make-up just to make themselves look pretty in their own eyes.

If we all dressed the same , did the same things, thought the same way it would be a very messes up place to live in.

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The pedophelia thing is bullshit, but I kinda feel like you really shouldn't be surprised to be treated with scorn if you choose to do something too far outside the norm. Hell that's part of the appeal for a lot of people even. You shouldn't accept it perhaps but you should always be aware of it as a (high) possibility.

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I think it's a political "we" and "them" thing.

It's so much easier to slag off whatever than to risk ridicule from your peer group by saying: "Oh, I can relate to that".

Try going to a football* game between Manchester* and Liverpool* and saying to your ManU-pals that you think the Reds played well.

*US folk can replace this with "baseball", "Dodgers" and "Giants" respectively.

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I think what people dont understand is that is a non sexual thing as well as sexual.

People cant understand it, and people always fear what they cant understand.

MY FB has been the same, predictable.

I actually thought it was pretty good compared to others in the past.

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Saturday's Daily Star newspaper in the UK reported 'viewers furious about shock doc' .

Placed on the same page as a report on a Paedo conviction story and a report about further activities in the Savile underage sex investigations it reveals eventually at the end of the piece that the show actually received just11 complaints!

I expect the popular UK soap Eastenders gets more than that each episode.

If Lord McAlpine has successfully sued people on Twitter for the accusations against him then why should'nt the people featured in the 15 Stone baby do the same?

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well honestly, a grown adult wanting to shit and piss themselves IS disgusting in many ways.....

and this is how people are seeing it... a grown man/woman, dressing up as a little girl or boy, and shitting and pissing themself....

put that way.. it sounds gross!

I have to agree with Sarah_AB, we are never going to be seen in a good light when people see as pissing and shitting ourselves.

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It's all about understanding, or I should say not understanding something. How many times I've heard people comment on general topics they know nothing about. This is the same. They know nothing about it and comment based on their ignorance (ignorant = no knowlege, not "stupid" even though often both terms apply to the same person). They draw the conclusion that diapers are for babies and toddlers, therefore any adult who wears them must be a pedofile. We don't help matters by dressing and acting like babies, but that's where understanding of the fetish comes into play. As a DL and not an AB myself, it would be even harder for me to explain what I like to do! After all, an AB can always fall back on the hard life they had as a child, no loving parents and they are just looking for the nurturing and what they missed out on as a child by regressing. People may still think that's sick or disgusting, but they can at least see the reason behind it. As a DL, how would you explain to someone you just like wetting and messing yourself wearing diapers?

As far as things go, their are a lot of wierd fetishes and things people do that I would find disgusting! Watersports where one partner pisses all over the other! Some people drink their own urine! Some people drink blood! Years ago I corrosponded with another DL who also had a rubber fetish! He would cross a busy highway at rush hour if he saw a woman on the other side wearing a rubber railcoat just so he could brush up against it! Then you have the foot and other body part fetishes, and also other forms of sexual roll play that people do! Whips and chains! Dildos. Some poeple may find this disgusting. To each his own. Thats one main reason (lack of public understanding and acceptance) why I keep this to myself and a couple other DL's I know. It's a fetish and why does everyone think they have to tell everyone about it and gain their acceptance? No one needs to know, and I don't need for anyone to accept and support me in my fetish. I do it because it feels good and I like it, and it's my life and decision. No one else has to know about it or accept that part of me. Those who do decide to tell others for their support only get upset and depressed when, rather than their friend or family member embracing their AB or DL's fetish, they shun and turn against them or comment on how dumb, sick and twisted it is to wear diapers and act like a baby! Why even subject yourself to those possible negative comments? Do you need the support of others that much that you feel you have to tell everyone? Thats why there are sites like Daily Diapers. My friends don't go around telling me of all the sexual escapades they have with their wives, girlfriends, etc. They may say they had good sex the night before, but they don't go into details! If they did, I'd stop them! I don't want to hear their bragging details! No more than I would go into details of having sex with a girlfriend or wife myself! Same should be true with our AB or DL fetish! OK to talk about it among our partners and AB friends, but why insist upon telling other friends and family about this persona part of our lives? To gain their acceptance? Why do people feel everyone has to accept everything they like to do? Just the recations from these ignorant people all over about this show tells me most people are not going to view this fetish in a good light.

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I once heard a person mention an imminent 'war' between a couple motorcycle clubs :o I knew people from both and it seemed to me that there was no basis for this. On seeing one of those folks later that day I heard the truth- nothing was happening, just as I would have suspected. And that person passed along some sage wisdom when they told me to always consider the source of my 'news' before believing it ;) If I apply that rule here, I can easily see that the people who gave negative comments to the show come from people who do not know what they are talking about. Thus I do not expect the negative comments about this show to be intelligent or to come from intelligent people B) And being that nobody likes to admit they are stupid, there's little point in trying to educate them directly <_<

Um, we're all human and we're all wrong sometimes :blush: Kind of funny, but I find much less of that general stupidity here, where people have more open minds about odd things and more desire to learn, and that is why I hang out here so much :groupwave:Now all I've got to do is figure out what makes us so different and better so I can get a supply of it and dump it in the worlds drinking water supply :ph34r:

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Yeah, there is backlash from this show (which I didn't see and have no desire to see), but we can all take comfort in one thing. Even though there are many many comments against the AB and DL lifestyle from those who don't understand the first thing about it, there may be 5, 10 or even more percent of the people who saw it who might be curious enough about it to try it themselves! Maybe the show reached some people who already had the diaper desires and who felt all alone and wierd that they have those feelings! Perhaps bringing this out in the open, even with all the negative comments from people, will have reached some who are struggiling with their own diaper feelings or some who might just decide to try it out of curiosity and become hooked on diapers! Some good may come out of it after all!

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Most of the haters are probably stupid, uneducated chavs who hurl abuse at anyone who doesn't fit their definition of "normality". Saw one example of someone on Twitter having a go, and one of his posts earlier was a racist joke. Sums up what these people are like really.

Of course there will be some people who initially react negatively but can be brought round to the fact that it doesn't harm anyone or break any laws so why should it be an issue?

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Ive been replying to a few of the tweets (I am very new to twitter) and found a lot of people are woefully narrow-minded and hopelessly uninformed. the pedo connection is strong in the eyes of many which is in itself a bad reflection on the common sense of many. By I do wonder about the types of people who bother to tween about something like this. I imagine the sane rational and thinking people simply dont bother.

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it reveals eventually at the end of the piece that the show actually received just11 complaints!

I'm not sure on the numbers but often very small numbers of complaints are actually significant when it comes to media in the UK. 11 complaints might actually quite a lot - given people need to be sufficiently motivated to actually make a complaint and this programme (unlike, say, an advert for a product) doesn't have anyone with an obviously vested interest (i.e. a competitor business) in making a complaint other than their emotion.

I'm not sure how we're going to avoid duplicating replies in this topic with the other topic about the show at http://www.dailydiap...showtopic=35466. Can I suggest we all try and keep this topic focussed specifically on our thoughts about the backlash / commentary from others about the show and keep our own thoughts / reviews about the show itself to the other topic?

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