Not a good image for ABDL

[edwardono]

https://youtu.be/nHAOf5Av12Q

[beallucanb]

He seems willing to take the hit to his personal image, its OK with me.

[DailyDi]

Looks like its his yard, and he's not hurting anyone. Eh.

[ValentinesStuff]

2,586 views

•Oct 24, 2019

 

And how many are from this post?

 

[kasarberang]

What exactly is wrong with that video? Is simply being AB/DL in public (on what appears to be your own property) a bad look for AB/DL? This video is completely harmless.

[edwardono]

My opinion is you shouldn't expose your kink to others without there consent. I understand it may be his yard, but for me that doesn't change the exposing kink without consent. 

It seems my opinion is not held by those who have replied.  I will be thinking about what others have said and do a bit of reading of past posts.   

Would anyone's opinion change if minors were in the home that saw the person exposing there kink?

[rusty pins]

I too am opposed to people purposely showing off their diapers in public places for their own jollies where other people and children can easily see them!  Face it, there are people, including some members here that get their jollies by being out among the public and purposely showing their diapers.   One example years ago was a member who liked to wear just his diaper on public beaches with the argument that a diaper covers a lot more than a bikini.  Another more recent member who was quickly banned would go to public restrooms in stores, remove his clothes, take his diaper half off, sit on the changing counter and wait for whoever came in to use the restroom, including kids, and then have conversations with them about his diapers.  Those examples are 100% wrong because you are in public places open to anyone including children seeing you in your diapers.

In this case, I have to lean towards the majority here.  He is in his own yard and it looks like he has some vines on his fence and other things in his yard making it just a small area where he could be viewed behind his fence.  It was a very short video and for all I know, he was not out to purposely flaunt himself to others but maybe to go get the paper or step out for some quick reason.  It's possible he is incontinent, needs to wear diapers, just got out of bed because he had to let the dog out.  Probably not because he had a pacifier and a printed diaper, but he was still on his property and it seemed he was not overtly jumping around trying to draw attention to himself.  We really don't know and yes, he was visible and someone may have noticed and pulled out their cell phone to take a quick video.  Maybe the guy passing by is the offender by taking that video of a guy on his own property and posting it on YouTube.

[ValentinesStuff]

4 hours ago, edwardono said:

My opinion is you shouldn't expose your kink to others without there consent. I understand it may be his yard, but for me that doesn't change the exposing kink without consent. 

It seems my opinion is not held by those who have replied.  I will be thinking about what others have said and do a bit of reading of past posts.   

Would anyone's opinion change if minors were in the home that saw the person exposing there kink?

My problem with this statement is that what about someone with a "Speedo" fetish? A guy wearing a Speedo is perfectly fine, but what if he's getting his jollies by having people see him in his Speedo? And you can substitute just about anything for "Speedo." 

Are you going to ask everyone if what they are wearing is for a kink?

I suppose we could make everyone wear a burka, but then what do we do about the people with burka kinks?

[~Brian~]

I believe that you should be able to indulge in certain activities in your own yard.  That being said, if you like to wear diapers, or you wear for other reasons, unless someone is sticking their nose over your fence and causing a problem, or you are calling undue and unnecessary attention to yourself by making light of your diapered condition so everyone is aware of it, and some people don't want to be advised of it, then you should be able to do what you want in your own yard, on your property, or in the privacy of your own home.  If you are calling attention to your condition, or causing a scene, then the FAULT is on the one who is calling attention to their condition.

The problem here is:  I feel that sometimes, things are blown way out of proportion, and in the old days, kids could run around naked or in diapers or whatever, and people would not care too much.  If you have to wear diapers, it is more acceptable.  I say if you wear for whatever reason, and someone finds out about it, then the best thing to do is to understand that the person is partaking of the use and privacy of his/her residence, and mind your place, and that it is NONE of the Neighbor's business! 

My feeling is: as long as you are in your yard, with your family, friends, acquaintances or significant others, and you are NOT causing a scene, or breaking the law, you CAN and SHOULD be able to enjoy yourself.  If you don't want to be running around in a diaper or commando and uncovered, then be prepared to put on shorts or something, so that you are not exposing yourself to those who may come to your yard or to the door (Has Happened before)

Brian

[kasarberang]

17 hours ago, edwardono said:

My opinion is you shouldn't expose your kink to others without there consent. I understand it may be his yard, but for me that doesn't change the exposing kink without consent. 

It seems my opinion is not held by those who have replied.  I will be thinking about what others have said and do a bit of reading of past posts.   

Would anyone's opinion change if minors were in the home that saw the person exposing there kink?

To some AB/DL is not a kink and is simply a lifestyle. In this person's case it doesn't matter because they are not doing anything sexual they are just choosing to dress a certain way, wouldn't matter if it was their kink or not nor would it matter if minors were around or not.

14 hours ago, rusty pins said:

We really don't know and yes, he was visible and someone may have noticed and pulled out their cell phone to take a quick video.  Maybe the guy passing by is the offender by taking that video of a guy on his own property and posting it on YouTube.

Where I live it is illegal to do such a thing without the other person's consent. So personally my biggest problem is with the person filming someone without their prior consent. In a place where the person being filmed has a "reasonable expectation of privacy."

[Ketcher]

12 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:

My problem with this statement is that what about someone with a "Speedo" fetish? A guy wearing a Speedo is perfectly fine, but what if he's getting his jollies by having people see him in his Speedo? And you can substitute just about anything for "Speedo." 

Are you going to ask everyone if what they are wearing is for a kink?

I suppose we could make everyone wear a burka, but then what do we do about the people with burka kinks?

I don’t think it’s a matter of whether it is a fetish or kink for this particular person. It’s the fact that to the general populace (who really doesn’t care or want to know why you wear diapers) it is seen as a sexual thing. Speedos are tight fitting swim trunks that are normalized and seen as non-sexual, albeit unappealing to some people. They are adult-only appropriate swimwear made to be worn in public. People won’t assume it’s a kink, just like if you have a kink for wearing high heels or three piece suits. It passes as normal. An ABDL printed diaper and pacifier do not. Nobody is going to ask you if it’s a kink. They’re going to assume. Furthermore, the uneducated public is going to assume even more. Ignorant people don’t look at guys in speedos and assume they’re mentally-ill or into children. But unfortunately they might think that of the person in question.

Regardless of what we wish we could do and what we wish the world was like, ABDL is not a public friendly lifestyle, kink, or comfort tool. We often say on this site that it’s our private lives and we should be able to do what we want, and the key word is private. The moment other people can see you when they’re trying to mind their own business is the moment ABDL stops being private. If your diaper is fully covered by your clothes then you’re fine. But having your diaper on full display reflects very poorly on the community and makes you, a person out in public, look like you have no respect for the public at large. You’re sending a nonverbal message that they will interpret however they want.

Sometimes we get people who say “I don’t care” or “It isn’t a kink for me” but that doesn’t justify it. If you don’t care what other people think of you, at least try to care for other people. I don’t want to see people walking pet-play people on leashes with pup masks in public, even if they aren’t hurting people and even if it isn’t sexual. You don’t own the public space and it isn’t fair for you to subject the non-consenting public and unable-to-consent minors to it. 

Just to be clear, I don’t think the person in the video is being the worst of the worst. Like Rusty said, they are on their own property with at least a partial visibility barrier but the fact remains that they’re going outside in their gear, and I can only think of one reason why they would do that: they want people to see. And that is not a good image for ABDL. 

[edwardono]

https://youtu.be/0W_yEycINNs

https://youtu.be/x3Kq7e9eucs

[Ketcher]

It’s definitely inappropriate for that person to be taking videos of them in their own house. It doesn’t look like they’re trying to draw attention to themselves there. I may not agree with doing ABDL in public, but I also don’t agree with people documenting those that do to shame them. 

[kasarberang]

28 minutes ago, edwardono said:

https://youtu.be/0W_yEycINNs

https://youtu.be/x3Kq7e9eucs

Now your argument has fallen apart entirely. This person is filming them while they're in their own home. I'd say the real problem is the person who is filming, actively going out of their way to snoop on their neighbor who is not hurting anyone and just trying to live life. Huge invasion of privacy. This isn't a bad image of AB/DL this is a bad image of weird creepy neighbor who can't find anything better to do than film their neighbor without the consent of said neighbor instead of minding their own damn business.

 

How did you find these videos by the way? They are obscure with very few views all things considered. I know I wouldn't be able to find something like this, even if I was looking really hard for it.

[OddlyEnough]

Actually, this is harassment, and whoever is shooting it is a prick. 

Yeah, she risks being seen if she chooses to walk around her house like that. But she's not doing anything to hurt anyone. 

I don't see how this is a "bad look" on anyone but the camera person.

[spark]

On 10/13/2020 at 8:35 AM, OddlyEnough said:

Actually, this is harassment, and whoever is shooting it is a prick. 

Yeah, she risks being seen if she chooses to walk around her house like that. But she's not doing anything to hurt anyone. 

I don't see how this is a "bad look" on anyone but the camera person.

I'm not an expert on the law, but I would think that the videos would be illegal.  At the very least, subject to civil damages.  

 

[rusty pins]

On 10/12/2020 at 11:09 PM, edwardono said:

https://youtu.be/0W_yEycINNs

https://youtu.be/x3Kq7e9eucs

There can be truth to all this, but as I said the guy is in his own yard (and house) and if he wants to look out his door, he can do so in his diaper.  If he were naked with his penis dangling down for all to see, I'm sure the police would come by and have a talk with him, same as someone parading around their living room picture window naked with the curtains open.

What I find very interesting is your argument that this doesn't put us in very good light, yet you are looking on YouTube for people in diapers as well as passing the links to these video's along for others to view.

[Alex Bridges]

A good rule of thumb is you have an expectation of privacy anywhere a person would have to deliberately try to see you. Anywhere else is public view, and I don’t think it’s ethical to expose one’s self to others in culturally inappropriate ways. Culture determines what is offensive, and in our culture, it’s not just public nudity that is offensive. What you are wearing and where you are wearing it both matter. And btw, a diaper is a receptacle for human waste. I don’t think it’s appropriate for a baby to just be wearing a diaper in public in most circumstances. For one, definitely not fair to the baby. Protecting their dignity is one of a caregiver’s many responsibilities.
 

Strikes me that both of these people involved in this video were wrong, but in crucially different ways.

The AB was either careless or indifferent. On one’s own property, my standard is, could someone see without trying to? If the answer is yes, you are exposing yourself. If the answer is no, you are being exposed by someone else because that person is basically peeping. In this video, the neighbor could see just by looking outside, so the AB was at fault for exposing themselves, but it doesn’t look deliberate.

But the neighbor was much more in the wrong. Taking and posting the video were deliberate choices with no other objective but to get a laugh at someone else’s expense. It’s bullying, and arguably a kind of revenge porn.

I have a semi-private set up in my backyard that’s as private as it can get given HOA rules. I’d feel fairly confident I’d be in the right to wear without anything over a diaper in my backyard because my neighbors would have to be in just the right spots to see, but STILL, as a courtesy to them, at a minimum I wear a pair of very short swim trunks over my diaper while I’m sunbathing. Any other activity outside and it’s looser and longer shorts, pants, or a skirt. As I see it, that’s the only way to wear outside responsibly where anyone can causally see.

[gcwetter]

Can we all agree he needs a better fence?

[iluvmydiapers]

Well I got myself videoed the other day, went for a long drive wearing only shoes, T shirt and a Crinkles diaper

Has to stop to air up tires at a Kwik Trip and a few hours later stopped at a convenient store for a bottle of water , no a word was said about the way I was dressed, and I saw myself on the video moniture behind the checkout counter.

A realy uneventful experience. 

[Nyte Kitsune]

As someone who works in a convenience store I can honestly say I have seen stranger things, At least the diaper covers your privates. I had one guy who was extremely overweight and drunk who could not keep his pants up, I did not want to see that, nobody wants to see your junk. Honestly I don't care what someone comes into my store in as long as its not illegal, then be you, I don't judge... after all, I'm a furry who am I to talk about someone else's lifestyle?

[DiaperboyEddie12]

On 10/11/2020 at 6:54 PM, ValentinesStuff said:

2,586 views

•Oct 24, 2019

 

And how many are from this post?

 

 

That video is now at 

7,356 views

 

Got exposed a lot more.  

If it was a guy dressed like that and went into walmart the views would be in the millons.

 

[square_duck]

I'm just wondering about the pervert who took this video then had the ignorance to post it???

The guy is on his own property, minding his own business!!!! He might also be either an incon or bedwetter...

This is ignorance and abuse at its (almost) worst!!

[Mars.inDiapers]

On 8/22/2021 at 10:50 AM, square_duck said:

The guy is on his own property, minding his own business!!!! He might also be either an incon or bedwetter...

Incontinence or bedwetting management usually doesn't require wearing lacy PVC shirt and a paci. 

Anyway, yea, he's on his property, but being on your property is not the same as being invisible, and when you go out to your yard that's got a see through fence and not a wall around it, being dressed like that, people are going to notice, and it would be naive to think they're not going to find it strange. It IS strange after all...

If he wants to do that on his property, it's his right, but it's not going to win him any neighbor of the year awards, kinda like having your yard full of old rusty junk or something. 

And as for not giving ABDL a good look, well, I don't find a reason to care too much about that.

[spark]

4 hours ago, DiapersOfTheStorm said:

And as for not giving ABDL a good look, well, I don't find a reason to care too much about that.

Ding, DIng!  We have a winner.

There is nothing about this video that is worth carrying.  Neither people are exhibiting good neighbor ettitiquite (not sure if that's a thing, but it should be).    And the cameraman wants to play 'My neighbor is a freak' game, he is going to lose.