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  1. I was touting Abri-flex M3 pull-ups on a previous forum, which I buy online and keep for ultra-discreet wearing times. I find them absolutely 100% reliable for a first wee, no matter how much you need to go, despite their small size and light weight. They are very expensive, though, so I find I have them more for one-off contingencies rather than daily wear - but I don't hesitate to recommend them in terms of utility.
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    Cloth diaper inserts

    Um, no. Urea in urine breaks down into ammonia, as a natural process. If it's more dilute, of course there will be less urea per volume, and therefore less ammonia when it breaks down, true. But urea does still turn to ammonia over time, as the result of bacterial action: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea. If you don't believe me, it's easy enough to test. Urinate on a towel, smell, then leave it for six hours in the warm, and smell again... Urine doesn't smell of ammonia at first, no matter how concentrated it is, but over time it begins to break down, and ammonia is formed. Not looking for an argument, though. :-( Decide for yourself, and go your own way.
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    Cloth diaper inserts

    I recommend against using cloth in a disposable, as you are basically nullifying all the advantages of a disposable in the first place, in terms of its ability to lock up urine as gel, and thus keep you comfortable over a longer period. Instead, you will find yourself with sodden cloth clamped against your skin after the first wetting, and as soon as this cools and starts to chafe, it will become uncomfortable enough you'll probably want to change sooner than you would without it. Also, urine saturated towelling will see urea turn to ammonia quicker than if it were fully 'locked up' and accompanied by the deodourising compounds used by most modern diapers, so you will also start to get more issues with odour if trying to wear longer term without changing. Instead, I recommend trying to get some disposable 'booster pads', which can be acquired fairly easily through sites like eBay etc, and are relatively cheap considering the boost they give to the capacity of a diaper. Alternatively, if that's not possible, you can buy a pack of cheapest generic baby diapers, and use a blade to cut the absorbent pads out from the centre (with the cheaper brand diapers, you'll generally find that the pad separates cleanly from the plastic outer once cut down the sides, back and front). Then use these pads in the seat of your regular diaper the same way. If you want to wear cloth, I suggest you go all the way, and wear cloth entirely, with a good pair of plastic pants. Be prepared to change more often than with a disposable, though, not less (unless you like the feeling of sitting in cold stale pee!), and to pay a sizeable initial outlay for a quality starter set of cloth diapers (they will pay for themselves eventually through reuse, not to mention the environmental benefit) - though as I've detailed in other posts, it is of course possible to improvise with regular towels if you're only going to be wearing at home.
  4. As 1ml of water = 1g, you can calculate a reasonable estimate of how much wet a diaper holds by weighing it before and after wearing. The difference in weight (in metric measurements at least) will be equal to the volume of fluid it subsequently holds. Personally, while wearing day to day, I don't tend to feel the need to wet until I have a reasonably full bladder, and tend to wet somewhere in the region of 400ml on average, though with some considerable variation, and typically more in the first instance, and less subsequently.
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    What Diapers do you wear?

    Similar to above, I think after being into this for some years, one tends to acquire a well stocked cupboard, from which you can pick out a type of diaper depending on what you are doing or need that day. Personally, Abri-Form M3 slips are currently my main go-to diapers for general use, but I still have some Tena Maxis, which are more lightweight options, and Abri-Flex M3s, which are for super lightweight and discrete times, with high-mobility. Then there are some Id-Slip Maxis, which are my 'super' option - for example for a really long journey or something where I might not be able to change easily. I also have some booster pads, which improve the capability of these even more. Finally, I also have some cloth nappies and plastic pants, which aren't terribly practical for out and about, but more environmentally friendly if I know I'm spending the whole day in and still want to wear something.
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    Gel beads harmful?

    The chemical in diapers which absorbs water to become gel beads is sodium polyacrylate (or some close equivalent), which is a non-biodegradable (doesn't naturally break down into anything else) complex polymer, comparable to a plastic molecule. It doesn't react with anything else at body temperature, so it won't have any chemical effect inside your body, nor will it change into anything that will. The worst it might do is swell up to block something, which might be a major problem if you swallowed or inhaled a large amount of powder, but it's very unlikely to go far enough up your urethra to actually block it, much less get to your actual bladder and swell enough not to come out again. Obviously, if you did find yourself having trouble peeing, then maybe go to the doctor, but such a thing seems very unlikely to occur, if not near impossible (I've never heard of it happening, and with all the diaper wearers in all the world, the possibility must have been well tested by now. Anything that went up would almost certainly flush back out again with the next wee - the more expanded the beads are, the more jellylike, lubricated and easy to pass they would be). Anything in your rectum or vagina would have enough space to expand however it wanted, and just come out again by itself eventually. Here is a link to the 'Material Safety Data Sheet' from Wikipedia, which is a standard thing to show the risks of any chemical. It may set your mind at ease to see all the zeros! https://www.howtor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Sodium-Polyacrylate-MSDS-Material-Safety-Data-Sheet-issued-by-SGS.pdf TLDR: You don't have to worry about absorbent diaper gel any more than you would about expandable bits of soft plastic. I wouldn't stick it up there on purpose, but sitting in a little bit isn't going to have any likely effects.
  7. That capacity certainly sounds impressive. I've recently switched from Tena Maxi to Abri-Form M3/4s, because for some reason the Tenas suddenly weren't seeming to offer as much absorbancy for me as they used to. Not that they ever completely let me down, but they seemed to go from a mostly reliable '3 pee' ability, to 1-2, and never a 3rd. But then, in a way, should you ever really need any more than that? I use the Abris now because its nice to be able to trust they have some reserve capacity 'just in case', but I still usually find myself usually changing by the time I've peed twice, and sometimes after just one. In some ways, I suppose that's wasteful (a major source of guilt in my life is what I contribute to landfill through my diaper-wearing ways)- but I think a diaper should be doing two jobs, only one of which is absorbancy, and the other one being comfort. Once it's cold, claggy and uncomfortable, I'd say its time to change, even if there's the technical capacity to go further. Plus there's the weight issue; once you have anything approaching a litre of fluid solidified between your legs, it doesn't matter how good the containment is, it's not going to feel too practical or comfortable to keep moving around with. So, no, I don't think we need to keep seeing improvements in capacity beyond a certain point. Not without equivalent breakthroughs in comfort and practicality. I'd love some kind of sci-fi diaper that somehow self-dried the water part of urine and subtly gave it off to the air as pure water vapour, allowing the diaper to be comfortably worn until it had odourlessly contained a day's worth of urea (much lighter to store without the accompanying water volume). Or even something which wicked fluids away to some kind of tube, with a valve which could be periodically drained at a convenient time (I suppose this would be less of a diaper, and more like a catheter, really). I know NASA was recently looking for ideas for a system which would allow astronauts to relieve themselves in a spacesuit over a period of more than a day, which if anyone had any practical genius ideas for, I'm sure would then also be applicable back here on Earth. In that case, however, it's needing to poo that causes a problem, given the need to have that kept separate from the skin, longer term. I've long wondered about the possibility of some kind of changeable bag device for that, with some kind of self sealing membrane through which poo could pass, and be locked up without odour. Finally, I think there's a need to recognise there's a distinction between the advertised capacity of a diaper (which I understand is measured by fully submersing it in water, and seeing how much it can absorb) and it's 'real world' capacity for urine, which is inevitably massively less, especially considering a diaper will leak long before every inch of its absorbancy is used. It's that 'leak point' that really matters, and I imagine that's affected by a whole array of individual factors, including body shape, strength of urine, gender etc.
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    In Praise of Flour Sack Towels

    I did play around with improvised towel diapers quite a bit in my youth (even though I had disposable options for real). As well as a 'letter fold', there's always the option of three separate towel layers: one folded into a long thick rectangle, to make a U-shaped main 'soaker' between ones legs; which sits in a wider square of double or triple thickness to address any sideways 'spread'; and then one single thickness outer layer, which is the only one which is actually secured in place conventionally around one's waist, binding everything else tight against you. The others are simply held in place by the outermost one (or possibly secured to that in key places, if seeming too likely to shift out of position, rather than wrapping around to themselves.) Of course, the result is far too bulky to be practical for anything except waddling around the house like the apocryphal toddler, and large plastic pants are a must when it comes to functionality (though I used to get remarkable results out of plastic shopping bags with the bottom corners cut off, pulled up so the plastic stretched around my legs!). There's obviously far more absorbancy than you need, given you're likely to be damply uncomfortable enough to want to change before needing a second pee becomes likely (not to mention the diaper would pull itself down under it's own weight long before any limit was approached) but the level of redundancy does mean you can feel confident in its initial performance, despite the cobbled together nature!
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    Cleaning Cloth Nappies

    When I wear cloth, I always sluice them thoroughly under the shower as soon as I take one off, which I think probably rinses 90% of the pee away down the drain immediately. Then I put them straight in a tub of water to soak until it's time to wring them out and transfer to the washing machine, which seems to dilute whatever's left beyond detection. You can always change the water occasionally, too, or add sterilising tablets if you think that's appropriate. Plus, I always use something as a liner in the seat area of the diaper even if I don't think it's going to be needed, because you never really know when nature might unexpectedly happen to call in the 'other' way. Professional flushable liners are great, but you can use any kind of comfortable rag material you have to hand - old cut up t-shirts for example. It sometimes takes a little work to pin a liner in place so it doesn't bunch up, but then cloth diapers are more work in general, and I would say a liner more than pays for its time investment when it comes to cleaning up. Plus, unlike an expensive cloth diaper, you can just throw away any liner that seems difficult to clean. Then I'd say biological washing powder is a match, and dry in sunlight if possible (difficult as I know that is when it comes to displaying one's adult diapers in one's backyard for the neighbours to see), as UV light has antibacterial effects. Definitely dry as soon as possible, so bacteria can't build up again after the wash. I sometimes find highly absorbent cloth diapers benefit from an extra spin cycle in the washer if they still seem heavy when the wash finishes.