Finally incontinent, my path forward

[BabyBoi91]

Hi, all,

im finally incontinent! Thanks to working with a professional hypnotist who helped me with my goals.? Very happy with where I am at and I suspect over time it will become only stronger. 

I’ve been pursuing this for a while (probably for a few years though more determinedly in the last year) and finally met with a hypnotist who worked with me on my goals to become a bedwetter and develop urinary /bowel incontinence. Here’swhere I am at now:

 

Bed wetting: this was probably my #1 goal with the hypnotist. well, first I realized I had already been having small night-time accidents and jsut wasn’t realizing it. This was something my husband pointed out to me (probably cuz my diapers were too thick, or I just was in denial). After my first hypnosis session, I woke up the next morning while wetting myself and didn’t even clamp down, it just kept going.  I was finally really happy. The next morning, I woke up already wet with only a partially full bladder. And I haven’t had a dry night since. 

Bladder control: I’ve had some minor issues for a few years, and now I’ve just stopped “struggling” so much with releasing my bladder. I’ve noticed a lot of muscle spasms ‘down there’ and they kindof tickle at time, def not painful. I notice I just dribble a lot while my bladder fils up (like a leaky sink filling up slowly only cuz the faucet is faster than the leak out the drain), but I’ve also had moments where I was changed and then 20 min later my diaper is soaked and I actually could swear I don’t remember when or where I wet that much.

My bladder is still at times a little “uncomfortable” if it feels kindof full, but I’m not really good at pushing it out anymore. In fact, it just feels like way too much effort and it’s better for me to just let my body do what it wants to do when it wants to do it, when it’s ready. 

 I’m hoping this will become less “uncomfortable” with time, and I kindof suspect that it will, that my muscles will realize there is no point in trying to hold back. I def am not intentionally holding back nor do I think I could ever go a day without diapers anymore, and the fact I actually soaked my diaper without any awareness of it tells me the full loss of bladder control is permanent and already happening. Even today, I was changed and five minutes later noticed I was wet. Tbh, I love it and would never go back.

Bowel control: I was nervous about this at first and wasn’t sure what to expect. But I’m amazed that my body really did just take over. All my usual muscles involved with messing just relaxed and gave up, and instead, it just kindof moves out on its own. After several minutes of it just exiting on its own, I suddenly felt a lot of fullness back there and just got this signal of “ok I have to push now” and I did—and the rest came out easily without any discomfort or tons of force (kindof reminded me of a toddler pushing?).  in the past I have had some issues with pain / constipation , and now I have none of that. it’s nice to really feel helpless and  I’ve accepted that my body can do what it needs to do without me trying to control or fight it. 
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anyways, I wanted to share and plan to update as I notice changes. This has been a dream of mine for a while, and eventually it went from a dream, to a goal, and then a plan, and now it’s a reality. I feel whole and like I’m finally myself. 

going forward, I hope to see the “uncomfortable” moments with my bladder get less and less as I’m already seeing the amount of wetting I do just snowball and snowball. There is no more “tug of war” with my bladder, and I think those moments are just years of habit finally breaking free—hence the little muscle spasms I get that are actually kind of pleasant.  

I also am excited to see how my bowel incontinence progresses as i know it’s only a matter of time before I don’t even feel a sense of “needing to push” anymore.  And it won’t be long until I’m waking up completely soaked ?.

but the one thing I know for sure, is I definitely can never go without diapers again for the rest of my life and I’m ok with that. That’s who I am.  That’s me. 

 

[Always_Diapered]

Congratulations !

I've been wanting and planning to untrain for quite a few years so I know the feeling of having something you feel you need to make you complete. I've tried a few admittedly not professionally made hypnossis files in the passt but it really didn't do anything for me, it's either the files were just garbage or more likely I suspect I am just not very open to hypnosis, but it could just be that I would need a professional.

Either way congratulations and I hope this brings you all that you have hoped for.

[DAQ]

Congratulations on achieving your goal. Was it easy finding a hypnotist? Did you already have a measure of success before you went to them?

[BabyBoi91]

Working with an actual person was nothing like the files, tbh. I’d compare the files to more just like “self-help” or relaxation.  I did have some very minor success with a file or two, but that was it.  also, I had already been wearing 24/7 for long enough to see some subtle changes physically but felt that I still had a long way to get to my goals.

as far as finding one, I started by just searching for “kink hypnotherapist” or “ABDL hypnotist” or similar terms. I actually found several, and eventually found one that I felt matched what I was looking for.  It took a while, and I def didn’t rush it. but when I finally found someone who I felt could offer what I wanted and I felt ready, I contacted them.  Very glad I did ! 

[iluvmydiapers]

Congratulations on becoming fully incontinent,  for me it was a goal I had set apon as a young child,  it took a few years to achive once I tossed all underwear and started wearing diapers full time, never to use a toilet again .

[Bonsai]

Which strategy did the hypnotist work with? Which tool have been used on you (voice, visual, other sounds, tactile stimulation, wetness feeling, others)?How did he made your conscious goals become something you can do unconsciously? Is there any change you can detect in your thought process that happened thanks to what he/she did to you? 

[DiapergirlWB]

Congratulations!!  I dream of this alot.  Will probably never be able to do it.  I have had some periods of bowel issues with IBS sometimes I wake up messy, and after My foot amputation there was a few weeks where bowel accidents were an almost daily occurrence.  I was in a rehab facility so that wasn't as pleasant.

[BabyBoi91]

So I think for me the biggest thing was simply understanding I was ready for this change, working through any last bits of doubt, and just accepting my body for what it wants to do. 

I think sometimes people want to say “this should happen this way,” when really our bodies are different.  For me, I threw out all my underwear over 6 months ago and finally committed to zero “cheating” (I was already diapered 100% but my mentality needed to change). 
 

as far as hypnosis, I had found a few minor successes with hypnosis files but tbh, working with a hypnotist isn’t that much more expensive and they really work with you and help identify what you need (or at least this one did ). 
 

Tbh, I was surprised it happened so fast, though I have been practicing trance / meditation for a while and that may have helped some (it is a skill and it does get easier with time). But tbh, I still think the biggest thing was just feeling like I knew I wanted this—even to the point of being honest with myself of any remaining doubts , minor questions and talking about them with the hypnotist as opposed to ignoring them. 

Hope this helps. I think anyone can benefit from hypnosis, and I think working with someone you can trust 1 on 1 (at least for me) was definitely very helpful. 

 

On 2/6/2021 at 1:38 PM, DiapergirlWB said:

Congratulations!!  I dream of this alot.  Will probably never be able to do it.  I have had some periods of bowel issues with IBS sometimes I wake up messy, and after My foot amputation there was a few weeks where bowel accidents were an almost daily occurrence.  I was in a rehab facility so that wasn't as pleasant.

Sorry to hear about your medical issues, but at least it sounds like you found a way to cope somewhat .

 

and yeah , sometimes my own poops are not pleasant, but I kindof just accept that now and deal with it. 
 

you may be closer to your goals than you think. It sounds like your body already knows what it is like to lose control, if it’s something you really want.  
 

 

On 2/3/2021 at 8:10 AM, iluvmydiapers said:

Congratulations on becoming fully incontinent,  for me it was a goal I had set apon as a young child,  it took a few years to achive once I tossed all underwear and started wearing diapers full time, never to use a toilet again .

Ty! Yep getting rid of all underwear is absolutely step #1. I agree . 

[littleme5144]

Did you see them in person or over video?

[Enthusi]

I can attest hypnosis is very powerful. It’s helped me tremendously.  I’ve worked with two professional hypnotists.  The one I have no uses a conversational style with every so subtle suggestions.    For me it’s all about getting the conscious out of the way. 
 

Hypnosis is very misunderstood. People often dismiss it as “placebo effect”.  My reply is “Yes, that’s exactly what it is!” Maybe we as a culture have the wrong idea about placebo effect.   I see hypnosis as intentionally manipulating the  placebo effect to get desired therapeutic  response.  It’s effective and clever and heck of lot safer than other options.  

[foreverdl]

On 1/30/2021 at 12:59 PM, BabyBoi91 said:

Working with an actual person was nothing like the files, tbh. I’d compare the files to more just like “self-help” or relaxation.  I did have some very minor success with a file or two, but that was it.  also, I had already been wearing 24/7 for long enough to see some subtle changes physically but felt that I still had a long way to get to my goals.

as far as finding one, I started by just searching for “kink hypnotherapist” or “ABDL hypnotist” or similar terms. I actually found several, and eventually found one that I felt matched what I was looking for.  It took a while, and I def didn’t rush it. but when I finally found someone who I felt could offer what I wanted and I felt ready, I contacted them.  Very glad I did ! 

I have tried several files from a website, and seam to have a small amount of help. like I will wake up wet once in a while. I will drift off to sleep, then I will wake up just a little, and I go ahead an start peeing to get wetter?, and when I start to pee, I can't stop peeing no matter how hard I try, so that's really cool, I would like to know if the files on web sites , like Warp my mind,? are there any people on there that are any good? I can't afford to go to someone to have it done. I would just love to fined a free file that works .  

Update,      I have tried the one file from utube, Babylozze, I like it, it may help me

Edited December 22, 2021 by foreverdl
Files not fires Stupid spell check........

[BabyBoi91]

End of year update:

hey everyone! Figured it’s been almost a year and wanted people to know: I’m still incontinent and the hypnosis definitely worked!

the year has been interesting though. As I mentioned before, I noticed I lost bowel control instantly and it still remains gone. Stuff just moves through me passively, which feels great. (I had already been having issues with stress incontinence here and the hypnosis just helped my body fully accept all of it, because I really did want it). 

the bedwetting went though waves. It was very frequent at first after th hypnosis, then I would go through times where I would question what I wanted (and I would start waking up middle of the night with a full bladder). Needless to say, I realized my sleep quality was so much higher as a bed wetter (well…diaper) and the bedwetting resumed.

daytime wetting was my biggest struggle, and I was my own biggest hurdle. I think I just kept telling myself how difficult it would be to lose control, let go, or pee in some position, etc. all of those things were just my own personal fears / expectations getting in the way. Eventually, I realized my body could learn to let go on signal just like it used to learn hold it on signal — basically reverse potty training. This was a huge breakthrough moment for me and one that happened just recently.

I also got the nerve to tell my doctor about my incontinence issues—which have always been a issue, just much stronger thanks to hypnosis. And I was able to explain how long things had been going on and my preferred way of managing things , as well as talk with my doctor about where she wanted to at least check some things (which is fine… I do actually have incontinence, so I get it). I also let her know I don’t want any procedures or anything invasive, and she respects that. She didn’t make me feel stupid for managing this with diapers or even calling them diapers (though she called them briefs).

Lastly, my family and a few friends have been super supportive through all this — both with my medical stuff and my decision to pursue hypnosis to become incontinent.

And yeah, there’s def been moments of “am I sure I want this?” (Which is funny that I think I still have a choice, given I can’t keep my pants dry for longer than 5-10 minutes without a diaper on). But I’ve never gone back to underwear. I’ve just worked through it. and I think working through those questions (without purging) has been healthy.
 

[Diapered Dave]

11 hours ago, BabyBoi91 said:

Lastly, my family and a few friends have been super supportive through all this — both with my medical stuff and my decision to pursue hypnosis to become incontinent.

 

So your family knows you used hypnosis to do this on purpose? They didn't say WTF??   (My family would call me "Nuts")

I'm glad you are where you wanted to be, with incontinence... It is a rush to get it listed in your med files. I was quite happy to see "Nocturnal Enuresis " listed in mine, though I'd rather have it say "Bedwetting".

[foreverdl]

On 12/21/2021 at 9:31 AM, Diapered Dave said:

So your family knows you used hypnosis to do this on purpose? They didn't say WTF??   (My family would call me "Nuts")

I'm glad you are where you wanted to be, with incontinence... It is a rush to get it listed in your med files. I was quite happy to see "Nocturnal Enuresis " listed in mine, though I'd rather have it say "Bedwetting".

I agree items a rush to get it on your records, I have talked to 2 of my Dr's and I go to a couple of cancer Dr's and they both know. I just recently went to my annual skin cancer doc, and it was kind of a run, I told him I was using the hydro cream that he was giving me for hemorrhoids,, for a rash because of my leaking part, and I told him I wear protection for dribbles . And I needed the same med but in a form that will stay with pee. I was very scared...... he thought nothing of it, and gave me the ointment form, and said he will right it for external Anus . I still had a small discussion with the pharmacy , But I got the biggest jar or both cream and ointment I have ever seen. And it stays on my bag skin, and works great,,,,so it's the first step of getting it into my records. I do know my ins won't pay for diapers at all. But next yr I will be on medicare ,  QUESTION..... does anyone know if Medicare  will pay for diapers without all of the bullshit testing?

[~Brian~]

18 minutes ago, foreverdl said:

I agree items a rush to get it on your records, I have talked to 2 of my Dr's and I go to a couple of cancer Dr's and they both know. I just recently went to my annual skin cancer doc, and it was kind of a run, I told him I was using the hydro cream that he was giving me for hemorrhoids,, for a rash because of my leaking part, and I told him I wear protection for dribbles . And I needed the same med but in a form that will stay with pee. I was very scared...... he thought nothing of it, and gave me the ointment form, and said he will right it for external Anus . I still had a small discussion with the pharmacy , But I got the biggest jar or both cream and ointment I have ever seen. And it stays on my bag skin, and works great,,,,so it's the first step of getting it into my records. I do know my ins won't pay for diapers at all. But next yr I will be on medicare ,  QUESTION..... does anyone know if Medicare  will pay for diapers without all of the bullshit testing?

@foreverdl

because I’m disabled, I have Medicaid and Medicare. I don’t believe MEDICARE pays For diapers, unless something happens and you are disabled through the VA. I know the VA pays for them if it is necessary. State Medicaid will pay for diapers, but they will not pay for the ones you probably think are the best ones available, until you test out the ones that are sub par.   once you use these for a couple of months or so, and they don’t work, you may be able to convince them that you need the better stuff.

I got Medicaid to pay for my diapers without all this bullshit testing. In order for me to do this, I basically told Medicaid “if my primary physician is not an expert in his craft or his field, I don’t know who it is or who he is.” I have Cerebral Palsy, so there is a reason that I am asking for the diapers, and also it is medically known that I have a disability. Someone is not going to “test me again“ to determine whether I have a disability, so I can’t understand why they would have to test me to see if they can “fix my incontinence”. @Enthusi add a medical professional write A diagnosis into his records, but it sounds like he said “person is in continent/refuses treatment/likes to wear diapers“. If somebody wrote that, I probably would have a major problem with that. It is one thing to like them or want to use them for whatever reason, it is quite another to have someone write that into your medical records.

after speaking with Medicaid myself, and after all of the necessary medical documentation was obtained, as well as all of the times that I had to use the “cheap stuff“, I was able to prove medical necessity, because of my disability, and because of the way my doctor knows of my conditions. CP does not get better unless you allow it to get better, and it’s not something that you don’t get better with unless you work at it. This means that if I were to have CP, there are certain things that I can do to make it not as bad, while there are other things that I have no control over. Your doctor should be able to write something in your medical records, or be able to provide Medicare or Medicaid in your state with the necessary materials to cover diapers. If your insurance does not cover it, I would seriously consider that you would be wanting to add additional coverage that does. State Medicaid will cover my diapers all the Way, and they will cover the prevail pads, and the boosters. They will not cover wipes, or any of the disposal bags, because they don’t believe that is something that is necessary. I guess it all depends on what your insurance allows. I would definitely look into making sure that you have appropriate coverage for this purpose if you need them. I did not have to go to a specialist to do this: I just simply told them “I don’t need to go to a specialist for you guys to determine whether or not I need what I ask for, I have CP, you know I have CP, and you’ve covered all of my medical‘s since I was 17, and even after that, you would cover other things that I needed. I told Medicaid that my doctor was the “specialist“ and I trust his judgment: he would not authorize something that I did not need, and I feel that it is important. I basically told them that I will stand on what my doctor recommends, and then I asked him to write it in so that I would not have to worry about proving medical necessity, or my need. There’s no reason for me to have to prove it, because I have medical diagnoses that would require it if I age, and then for some reason I don’t have that control.

in short, I think sometimes insurance companies just want to be “overly cautious“ and sometimes I think that because they won’t cover something, they don’t understand that it might be something we think we need. I’ve always stated that some of these people that “authorized“ some of the things that they authorize should have to use whatever they authorize, and then they would see how subpar it is.

Good Luck my friend 

Brian

[foreverdl]

1 hour ago, ~Brian~ said:

@foreverdl

because I’m disabled, I have Medicaid and Medicare. I don’t believe MEDICARE pays For diapers, unless something happens and you are disabled through the VA. I know the VA pays for them if it is necessary. State Medicaid will pay for diapers, but they will not pay for the ones you probably think are the best ones available, until you test out the ones that are sub par.   once you use these for a couple of months or so, and they don’t work, you may be able to convince them that you need the better stuff.

I got Medicaid to pay for my diapers without all this bullshit testing. In order for me to do this, I basically told Medicaid “if my primary physician is not an expert in his craft or his field, I don’t know who it is or who he is.” I have Cerebral Palsy, so there is a reason that I am asking for the diapers, and also it is medically known that I have a disability. Someone is not going to “test me again“ to determine whether I have a disability, so I can’t understand why they would have to test me to see if they can “fix my incontinence”. @Enthusi add a medical professional write A diagnosis into his records, but it sounds like he said “person is in continent/refuses treatment/likes to wear diapers“. If somebody wrote that, I probably would have a major problem with that. It is one thing to like them or want to use them for whatever reason, it is quite another to have someone write that into your medical records.

after speaking with Medicaid myself, and after all of the necessary medical documentation was obtained, as well as all of the times that I had to use the “cheap stuff“, I was able to prove medical necessity, because of my disability, and because of the way my doctor knows of my conditions. CP does not get better unless you allow it to get better, and it’s not something that you don’t get better with unless you work at it. This means that if I were to have CP, there are certain things that I can do to make it not as bad, while there are other things that I have no control over. Your doctor should be able to write something in your medical records, or be able to provide Medicare or Medicaid in your state with the necessary materials to cover diapers. If your insurance does not cover it, I would seriously consider that you would be wanting to add additional coverage that does. State Medicaid will cover my diapers all the Way, and they will cover the prevail pads, and the boosters. They will not cover wipes, or any of the disposal bags, because they don’t believe that is something that is necessary. I guess it all depends on what your insurance allows. I would definitely look into making sure that you have appropriate coverage for this purpose if you need them. I did not have to go to a specialist to do this: I just simply told them “I don’t need to go to a specialist for you guys to determine whether or not I need what I ask for, I have CP, you know I have CP, and you’ve covered all of my medical‘s since I was 17, and even after that, you would cover other things that I needed. I told Medicaid that my doctor was the “specialist“ and I trust his judgment: he would not authorize something that I did not need, and I feel that it is important. I basically told them that I will stand on what my doctor recommends, and then I asked him to write it in so that I would not have to worry about proving medical necessity, or my need. There’s no reason for me to have to prove it, because I have medical diagnoses that would require it if I age, and then for some reason I don’t have that control.

in short, I think sometimes insurance companies just want to be “overly cautious“ and sometimes I think that because they won’t cover something, they don’t understand that it might be something we think we need. I’ve always stated that some of these people that “authorized“ some of the things that they authorize should have to use whatever they authorize, and then they would see how subpar it is.

Good Luck my friend 

Brian

Brian, Thanks, I know I can get my Dr to add something to my files that might be helpful , I just need him to word it with daily dribbles etc, and bedwetting. I have had cancer 20 yrs ago. And the best Dr I have is my cancer Dr, he has helped me with so much , that I told him if he ever goes out on his own as a Dr I can call Primary  I will follow him. He found the wording to get my PET scans done, when all other Dr's over the past yrs could not ever get paid for. All others could do is MRI, and I have gotten sooooo  clostrafobic that I can't get into the MRI tubes, so I told my cancer Doc, I have to refuse the MRI's for any reason, they had to get me out of it without completing it a few yrs ago. I was freaking out bad. But my Dr I have has gotten me several PET scans just by wading it the proper way, he said it's all in how you put it. And I believe him, and he has gotten me off of a few bad meds and onto magnesium etc to help my (acid reflux Chronic) . If a Dr can wor it in he can.

Thanks again , I can maybe understand how bad you have had it, I know we can't understand till we walk a hundred miles in your shoes. But being a chronic pain, hemorrhoids cancer with a dozen surgeries, etc etc,  I can understand a small part.

I agree about the dumb people that turn us down, all they are there to do is save the ins company money...

See as far as ins is concerned, I am not fully incontinent so thats what there reason would be, for not covering my diapers.