Bettypooh

Now here's an odd 'unexpected consequence'- I'm in the final stages of moving house and with the impending time limitations I've not been sorting things out as well as I'd like to, and everything here is a mess with piles of stuff I'm not moving all over the place. I woke up yesterday morning wet and once I got coffee going I began to look for my bag of diapers. Um, damn- I can't find them and I'm on the verge of leaking! Did I put them in storage with the rest of my stuff? I can't remember. Well there's a change in the car so let's get some coffee in me first and then I'll do something about it. One cup later and I'm digging around but still no diapers. Could I have been that stupid? Maybe. Second cup of coffee later and I still haven't found my diapers. I decide to pour a third cup of coffee then go to get my diaper from the car. I turn around in the kitchen to go outside and there beside the recliner is my bag of diapers. I don't know how they got there or why I didn't see them before but whatever- I'll take the win When you need diapers you'd better always have a "plan B" or you're going to eventually discover the hard way why that's so important! Bettypooh

I'll agree on our tendency to be stupid, but not on our having an inability to control our bodies. It's entirely possible to only wet freely in one's sleep- it's just not easily achieved. Bettypooh

It's never a good thing to start with deceit It may help you achieve your goals but if it's ever exposed you lose more than you've gained. In this situation there could be a claim of breach of trust which is generally illegal, but usually carries little consequence beyond recovery of fiscal losses of which there would be none as long as you paid the bill. The lack of direct consequence still does not make it right. As long as there is an understanding of your motivations and desires from the start you could try this but probably without success. A better bet would be a professional "parent" or even a prostitute who is willing to take the same money they could usually make for the time you want them even without sex being involved. And to avoid complications I would definitely keep anything sexual out of this while both parties are present Doing things the right way is usually harder, bit the effort is always worth it in the end Bettypooh

Occasional bedwetting happens to many people, and once or twice a year is not considered to be medically significant, but is worthy of a look into the matter, especially if it increases. We think of some things being beyond out reach, such as our body's autonomous functions like breathing and heartbeat. Yet there are many well-documented instances where people have learned to control these things through meditative techniques and lots of practice. So if that is possible then so is a return to bedwetting, which is essentially the same kind of thing. The one difference here is the hormonal influence of vasopressin reducing urine output from the kidneys at night yet that too should be equally controllable given enough effort and practice, and I think that those who have returned to bedwetting would have lower vasopressin levels were we to measure them. I wish someone would do that measuring to confirm my thoughts. I believe that everything is possible from a whole and functional body. We all once had no bladder or bowel control so it must be possible for all of us to achieve that state of being once again. We've spent most of our lifetime developing the habit of control, so losing it isn't going to happen overnight. As powerful as our mind and brain are, they still respond to hidden doubts which can block the way to our desired destination, so most important is to remove all doubt and desire with all your heart and soul, then it will be possible. Not everyone can do this though and that is because they do not truly believe that all things are possible. Those people will always fail in this endeavor and many others because of that. Believe in yourself and in the goodness of your desires and there's hope for you Bettypooh

You saw it as exercise and you probably didn't enjoy doing it. That's why I say to just be active and do something you can enjoy as the better way to benefit from the physical movement regards depression. Put the exercise in a separate box of it's own elsewhere unless you enjoy doing it. Take a walk in the park, go window shopping, do anything instead if just sitting there doing nothing. It doesn't take much to gain the benefit and you needn't work at it, but you need to be active when you're depressed or it will always just get worse. You've got to actively fight depression or it will win every time. Bettypooh

It's true that we lead the way when it comes to new treatments and meds, but when you look deeper you find that there are huge government grants funding most of the research so you're paying for it all now, and you pay again when you need that med or treatment. In the headlines recently we've seen where insulin prices have skyrocketed but did you wonder what was behind that? Nothing has changed in the world to cause that- it would be called price gouging in any other industry becausecthat's what it is. People either pay the price asked or die. Insurance to cover medical bills is just another for-profit industry which raises prices to the consumer without adding to the medical art. Show up at an emergency room and they ask who your insurer is before they ask what your medical issue is. My GP has a wall full of documents showing where he was head of research, head of surgery at highly acclaimed hospitals, led the way in various researches and publications, and much more. He was one of the top Doctors in the nation and then he did something foolish- he walked away from the limelight and money to get good healthcare to those who didn't have insurance or lots of money. He saw what you don't see- the under-treated masses who deserve good treatment as much as the rich people do but who couldn't get that. He opened a small local practice where the first thing you do is sign an agreement to limit his liability in lieu of him carrying malpractice insurance and agree to handle all claims on any insurance you have by yourself. He told me that adding malpractice coverage would triple his costs and that having his staff do the insurance paperwork (like most Doctors do for you) would mean tripling his staff with the majority of them becoming non-productive medically. He saw the waste and profiteering in the system and decided to do something about it. Since he couldn't change the system all by himself he opted out of it. Where you or your insurance pays hundreds of dollars for 10 minutes of a Doctor's time he charges only $60. Where you need more time you pay vastly more but his price is fixed- whatever you need it's $60 no matter how long it takes. He's making a reasonable profit, not going broke or adding massively to his wealth. He sells some of the more common meds right there at his office for far less than the pharmacies do because he sells them at his cost. So to get a simple treatment I pay around $100 but you or your insurer pays $500 for the exact same thing. That extra $400 you're paying isn't advancing the art of Medicine; it's going to investors who don't give a damn about you or your health- they only want your money and the current system lets them get it. So yeah- we've got the best if you've got the money to buy it, which most people don't. So please explain to me why only rich people deserve good healthcare? Is there something bad when a person who has worked hard all their life not breaking any laws does not deserve to be treated for a disease unless they first sell their home and cease working so they can be eligible for Government assistance which you can't find anyone willing to take in lieu of cash? That's exactly what America does and it's not right. If we take the profiteering out of the system everyone could have good healthcare but the only way that's possible is for the Government to step in and regulate things- it's not going to happen any other way. Nobody except the profiteers would lose anything and the costs would go down as my GP has so clearly proven can be done. The system is broken so we must change the system, not just the peripherals, or the inherent problems will continue or pop up elsewhere. If you've for a better solution let me hear it. Just because something is "socialized" does not mean it's inherently bad. It's a proven way that benefits the majority more even if it isn't perfect. Our roads, Fire departments, Police services, and much much more are already "socialized" which is something you're not seeing. I base my thoughts on facts, not politically-driven hysterics spouted by people who are profiting from keeping things as they are now. Take a deeper look at those you follow then maybe you'll see the merit in my approach of not following anyone, but thinking for myself instead. Only fully open minds function properly so have a look around and once you see what I've seen you'll begin to understand what's wrong with healthcare and indeed almost everything else in our Nation of America. Bettypooh

It's not just to benefit your body, but also your mind. Though the process isn't understood, it's been clearly shown universally that being physically active reduces the effects of depression. It doesn't need to be strenuous- sometimes hat can be detrimental- it just needs some activity which is more effective when the results are pleasant. Clean house, take a stroll around outside to see springtime in action, wash the car, anything which will give you positive feelings afterward. Being active is the last thing you want to do when you're depressed but it is simply something those of us living with depression have to do to have a chance for a hopefully better tomorrow. Bettypooh

In a perfect world a person's ability to choose would be limited to their level of ability to think things trough. Younger folks simply cannot comprehend how their decisions will affect their later life simply because they do not yet understand how widespread even the simplest decision will impact them and the world around them, and they do not yet understand the paradox of time which is both very short yet nearly eternal at the same time. The founders of the US decided that a President needed at least 35 years of life experience before they could be trusted to make good decisions for themselves and the others they would be leading. It was only after I passed that milestone myself that I began seeing the wisdom of that, and in each passing year that wisdom becomes more manifest. It is why I try to discourage those younger than 35 to not go here yet, but to wait until such a time as they have the wisdom and understanding which it takes to make a good decision regarding desired incontinence. I know that for me deciding to pursue incontinence has been the best decision I've ever made. I did not make the decision based solely on what I felt about it, and I didn't lock the decision in until I had experienced nearly every aspect of my life in diapers, and had fully considered it's likely permanence and how that could affect my future years. Had there been even an inkling of doubt in my mind I would have waited; patience being another one of those things which one does not fully understand the value of when they're young. What the decision to go ahead can mean is that once you get here diapers will rule your life in every way every day. By necessity they come first, above eating, above paying rent, and yes even above romance. You will have to do whatever it takes to keep supplied with diapers even if that means robbing someone, which we all hope never comes to pass but now becomes a possibility should you lose any other means of acquiring diapers. It's that serious of a matter and it requires that level of comprehension and understanding before you're truly ready to make the decision. And I've never seen anyone under 35 who has thought this through to that necessary depth. If you think you're different then please come back when you're 40 to tell me I'm wrong and why. Nearly all those who chose this path and regretted it later began at an early age under 35, or somewhere close to that. It is the very rare person who fully thought it through and began later only to have full regrets down the road. I'm not waning to deter anyone from acquiring their bliss, for indeed those of us who need to go here do find our bliss in it. I just don't want anyone making a mistake which has the potential to destroy their chance at having any bliss in their life. There is no room for error in the decision so better to wait until you're knowledgeable, wise, and certain before locking in the decision which may well not be reversible. We all make mistakes in life and having patience can help you avoid a mistake here. There's no need to hurry the choice- you have the entire rest of your life to experience this in- it will always be available to you later on. in the meantime just do life as you'd do if you were incontinent without any exceptions and gain the experience you'll need to decide well. And to all: May you find your bliss wherever it may be! Bettypooh

Keeping costs down? Not so with healthcare in the US. We pay more for the exact same meds- sometimes hundreds of times the prices the rest of the world pays. I can go to places elsewhere in the world who have healthcare which is deemed to be good and get an entire sex-change surgery done for what 3 days of laying in a hospital bed costs here, that before you add in Meds and treatments. The government could do the job better even with all their inherent inefficiencies. What we've got now id politicians who are heavily invested in insurers and big pharma who are getting rich by not implementing regulations which could improve things. In doing nothing they can plausibly deny any conflict of interest so that's exactly what they do. Looking worldwide there are many nations with lower GDP numbers who have much better healthcare than the average American gets and done at lower costs too. Of those many, almost all have near-universal healthcare coverage at least for serious conditions requiring a hospital stay or surgery. We could do similar here without much cost by simply eliminating the for-profit aspect and by eliminating the waste of excessive malpractice lawsuits and the costs of malpractice insurance by making Doctors face their responsibility better and by eliminating all the closed doors of the AMA where bad Doctors get what is essentially a free pass to continue being bad for decades if not forever. Nobody is doing anything in the US to look after our healthcare unless you're rich with massive insurance coverage- then you can get the best of everything while most people barely get decent treatment. The problem is inherent in the system and has only been getting worse,m and as bad as Government usually does with out money they would be hard pressed to do any worse than what we've got now. Before you offer political-based opinions you should do some research on how the many Countries of the world address healthcare for their people and see the many ways it can be successfully done at very reasonable cost. Then you'll understand why the US has second-class or worse healthcare compared to any other major Nation. Unless you're rich that is, and that is always the end outcome of all totally free-market approaches to everything. A totally free market always creates a small number of those who have and a huge portion of those who have not, and of the latter the former keeps the doors to change closed when the rich rule over the rest. Being rich should not be penalized but neither should it be given any power beyond it's percentage of population, and the masses should always set the rules everyone has to live by. Healthcare should be deemed a human right and treated as such with all involved being responsible for doing their part to not be an unnecessary burden on anyone else. Bettypooh

I like it even though I'm OK with the old brighter version. Now if I could get rid of the reading glasses... Bettypooh

Sometimes relationships- especially online ones- kind of "fade out" over time. So I wouldn't worry too much about it meaning anything more than that you've discussed everything already and there's not a lot more to say. Or they could have gotten busy with life and don't have time to maintain lots of messages. My dearest friend and I rarely communicate more than a dozen times a tear but that is only because we're both usually busy with other things. One of us will send a "How are you doing?" message to the other when its been awhile since we talked. But we're still "no limits" kind of friends totally dedicated to each other- BFF as they now say. So why not drop a "How ya doing?" line to them and see what's up? Bettypooh

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I'm certain they've seen diapers before with others and I'm certain they'd rather you contain your urine rather than have it leak onto their chair. Which I'm sure they've experienced before too. In the very unlikely chance something was said about wearing I'd just tell them that sometimes jolts of pain make me leak a bit and I'm only trying to keep that from being a problem for both of us Bettypooh

That's wonderful of you There may still be times of conflict but remember that whatever time you have left together is all there is. Use it well to make up for times lost in the past Bettypooh

Thar's pretty much how it goes. Once your subconscious mind gets locked into the fact that there is no need to wake just to pee, you will stop waking. On this path it happens gradually but hypnosis and mind-training techniques can speed the process along. Years into this, I still wake to pee- usually just barely but occasionally it's becoming fully awake before I understand why I woke up, and about equal is no waking at all. I'm right on the edge of being a true bedwetter and I'm not straying from here. I still have some small reservations about it which keep me in place, plus this is where I want to be right now. I refuse to go back to using the toilet and just a nudge will send me the other way. What I'm waiting on is a soulmate who will give me that nudge. That's the one hole in my life which has never been filled and I'd like to experience it before I'm gone. I've cone close once or twice but it just didn't happen, so I remain alone. Bettypooh

Adding my voice to the "Yes you can" list. It might even be more possible to train yourself to do this than for learning day-wetting. Healthy children become dry daytime before that is achieved at night so there's no reason one can't get their mind back to that point without going further. In reality, that's all that learned adult incontinence is- putting the mind back to where the signals of wetting went unnoticed and therefore unheeded. Which in time the physical body will follow. It's all a mental process which controls the physical processes. Bettypooh

Went grocery shopping yesterday with one of those unidentified cravings. I saw the honey roaster almonds and bam! I knew that was it. Which is odd because I've never had them before and as best I can recall I never knew almonds came that way. Pretty good but honey-roasted peanuts are better I didn't want those though- it had to be almonds somehow. Bettypooh

Probably related to repetitive motions at work. The pains and joint problems of aging hit my active side first for that very reason. Bettypooh

Nice! If you can stand to be without it for a few days, slip it into a bin liner with a box of Febreeze dryer sheets and an open box of baking soda, maybe slipping another bag on the other end to make it long enough, then seal it up with tape, and the stale ciggie smell will be all gone. Bettypooh

Hoping that you can find your way back to where you want to be

So very glad to hear that it went well for you It's certainly no fun having that kind of pain. My second intestinal tumor surgery was done from outside through my rectum and it literally felt like someone had driven a tractor-trailer into me there It gradually went away but it's something you'll never forget. Hoping that the pain relief goes faster for you! Bettypooh

I wouldn't want this kind of exposure but it wouldn't be life-ending or anything to me if it happened. I wear diapers and it's not going to stop, so the world will just have to get over it I once got a concussion in a car wreck. At the time I thought I was fine with everything normal.Three days later when it cleared up I could see where I had been far from normal. Now that I understand how it works if it happens again I think I'll know it. My main symptom was feeling angry all the time, which I'd attributed to having some nutcase destroy the truck I liked so much. Another thing I noticed is that the people closest to me who knew I was touchy when angry were distancing themselves from me and being careful to not upset me. But there was something I couldn't (and still can't) pinpoint, like a tiny voice in the back of my head, telling me something wasn't quite right with me. Back then I had anger management problems along with self-denial issues regards my self-identity so today I might not experience that constant angry feeling, but I'm certain that some strong emotion in me will jump to being extreme- I've seen that in others who had concussions. It doesn't always take a lot to get a concussion and it's a serious matter as is any damage to your brain. Maybe my experience will help someone here realize that they have a concussion by recognizing the changes. If the people closest to you are noticing something different about your behavior take that as a sign that you need some medical help pronto and act on that. Bettypooh

No memories of this, but as I didn't have fairly reliable bladder control till my late teens and that happened progressively, I'm certain it was a traumatic time for me. Which would well explain why my mind pushed those ear;y memories as far into the darkness as it can. And with me now being diapered constantly it's become something I wouldn't want to remember or re-live at all. Bettypooh

Maybe I put too much emphasis on it, but when a habit-change comes naturally and easy that seems to say you're going in the right direction. At least to me, anyway A two-diaper day might work for you, but that also means you're going to be spending more time in a heavily-used diaper which is more prone to leaking than one not as soggy. And if that happens it will be a faster and larger event since there's more moisture at work. It could work well if the wettest times coincide with the least risky times for a leak, but is the savings worth the risk? At home I don't care but in public I don't want to even approach those limits. It happens anyway sometimes. Things don't always go according to plan so I like having a buffer of time before a change becomes an absolute necessity. I aim for around a half-hour which usually covers things but if there's any doubt or if I'm going into a "no-leaks-allowed" situation I'll change early just to be safe Everyone will vary, but as long as there's no abrasion going on I don't have skin problems from being wet no matter how long I'm soaked. This is only applicable to disposables for me; extended times in cloth diapers do cause me skin problems. Women generally place a higher value on appearance than men do, and they think that what they see clearly and what that means is going to be the same for everyone else. If your diaper looks obvious to wifey then she's thinking everyone will see that and instantly think "diaper" too, along with all the affiliated connotations she attaches to that. She clearly doesn't want anyone else knowing you're diapered. Remember the "if looks could kill" moment at the airport scanner? That clearly shows this. You can use this to your advantage though. Adopt the women's approach of asking about appearance sometimes which will both keep your being diapered in her mind regularly so that she gets more used to it being the norm as it also makes her feel her opinion in the matter is important I doubt she's ever going to be greatly comfortable with your wearing but as long as it's being constantly tolerated the end result for you is the same Just do all that you can to stay in that zone for her sake and I think your soggy but happy life will go on together without too much further fanfare over this. Bettypooh

Some USPS locations will hold a large package for you as long as you don't habitually do it- then they will ask you to rent a PO Box and cease holding them if you say no. In larger cities with a main office and substations you usually have to go to the main office to pick up. Ask ahead of time to be sure. And many retail chains like WalMart that have an expanded online store will deliver to the local store for you. Package theft has become huge and even the 'sting' operations where Police put a tracker in a box and wait for someone to steal it aren't making much of a dent in this crime so even those who don't need concealment would be wise to get a PO Box or arrange for a in-person delivery service. Were it not for possibly getting involved with other criminal activities unknowingly, operating a for-fee package holding service in larger cities might make for a pretty good in-home business, but that may have other legalities involved beyond business licensing and taxes. Bettypooh