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This week I’ve been able to road-test the new(ish) Rearz Omutsu v2 “waddle diaper” because I now own some and more importantly, I’ve used them. Totally unavailable to me locally, I made recourse to the Rearz website. There, the purchasing experience whilst not traumatic was very enlightening insofar as my wallet weighed much less after I bought them. The nappy price itself was NOT unreasonable. The trap was postage: again. Helpfully, the Rearz website had a postage estimator that allowed me to understand in advance what it would cost me to have my new nappies rushed to the far side of the planet and also to get that shipping quote BEFORE having to hand over an indictable quantity of personal details to a vendor I had not yet resolved to engage. The “basic” postage options proposed were from Canada Post and whilst I expected Canada Post to be glacially slow, the rates themselves were reasonable – in line with what I’d expect if I went down to my local post office and organised it personally. A two week delivery (yeah, right) would cost around CAD30/AUD30. So I proceeded and told Rearz exactly who I was, where I lived and how I intended to pay for them. Unhelpfully, that reasonable Rearz postage estimate was, at the click of the “submit order” button, cheerfully forgotten (or at least discarded) by the “pay now” bit of the transaction. Entrapped, my CAD30 Canada Post option was now nowhere to be seen and the “cheapest” shipping option was an eye-watering CAD110 using something called “FedEx International Connect Plus”. The “Plus” part was accurate: the actual shipping charge nearly doubled the cost of my nappies. YOLO. The alternative being “no nappies”, I bought them anyway. The upside was they turned up only about one week later. After a mere week, Canada Post would still be contemplating how many seals it would take to swim to Australia. I’d still rather have had the CAD30 postage and waited a bit longer but at least it wasn’t as though I’d gotten nothing for the egregious shipping charge. First, the inspection. Similar in principle to the classic Rearz “Omutsu” cloth adult nappy, this is an hourglass-shaped Velcro-secured cotton/polyester construction. I’d ordered the “Large” because that size fitted me on the old Omutsu and the “XL” appeared to be permanently out of stock. For me, “large” was more than adequate. In fact, I had nappy left over. I was poking bits of it back inside my plastic pants. Whilst of similar length and breadth to the Omutsu V1, the V2 is substantially thicker with greater coverage through expanded surface areas. This thickness is reflected in the nappy’s dry weight. My old V1 weigh in on average at 456g whilst the V2 averaged 616g. Whilst it’s possible that my old V1 have shed a little weight over their years of use, I doubt it’s the 25% delta in those numbers. There’s more stuff in a V2. The V2 also has significantly expanded coverage in area. The Euclidian calculus describing areas with polygonal curves is beyond me but let’s just say in addition to thicker, the V2 is substantially wider. The crotch at its narrowest point on the V2 measured at 350mm (vs 300mm for the V1), the crotch padding also appeared to be upgraded in width: approximately 240mm vs 160mm and the wings were much taller (roughly twice), providing much greater coverage across the sides of my crotch down towards my inner thighs: a vulnerability with the V1. The Velcro tabs were probably 4 times the surface area of the old V1 and fold back on themselves to “close” for washing. The Velcro landing strip on the front of the nappy whilst extending all the way across as it did for the V1 (allowing for near infinite girth adjustment) is, in keeping with the expanded wing Velcro securing tabs, twice the height of the V1. This affords considerable latitude in fitting. I’m not a fan of Velcro in nappies as in my experience, it’s in a race with sewn elastics towards product failure but this Velcro seriously grips. This nappy was NOT going to fall off me. The hue and surface material choice is somewhat odd. A kind of peuce colour on all sides (#F7E4BE for an RGB formula colour that looks like a V2 on my uncalibrated monitor for nerds), it was a shade that spoke of baby vomit or long-unwashed, once-was-white underwear. An interesting, perhaps courageous choice although I did subsequently notice that this colour appears to offer zero visual cues of it being wet: a kind of pee camouflage. Maybe that was the point. Nobody is supposed to see them anyway so really the colour doesn’t matter. The surface material is terry velour: a bit like a plushie toy. Actually, a LOT like a plushie toy. This velour lines both the inside and outside surfaces (in contrast to the V1 that was plain white on its interior but a range of nursery-print patterns on the outside). So, what’s it like to wear (and use)? There’s a LOT of bulk: I guess that’s why they call it a “waddle diaper”. Even under shapewear and jeans it wasn’t hard for me to tell I had a nappy on. I suspect my beloved could tell easily enough but has long since stopped bothering to signal her disapproval. I might duck out to the shops in one, augmented by overhanging, oversized t-shirts and dark jeans but I wouldn’t wear one to a social event. It was however, very, very comfortable bulk. There is a LOT of padding. Elasticated leggings keep the nappy taught around the rear of my thighs and bum but the garment itself was super flexible. That poofy plushie terry velour felt very, very soft. This in conjunction with the thickness and Velcro-welded fit felt, well, voluptuous: like a large, soft hotel bed except that you’re allowed to pee in it. Speaking of peeing in them. That works but that plushie-style terry velour does feel a little different. I’ve never strapped a teddy bear around my crotch and used it as a nappy but I imagine it would feel like peeing in an Omutsu v2. It’s transiently warm-and-wet in a cloth kind of way but the wetness does quickly dissipate in a way I don’t traditionally associate with cloth. It’s not like a modern disposable where sometimes I need to physically feel inside to see if I’m wet or not. I could feel the closeness, warmth and humidity in the front of my nappy but I fancy I didn’t feel as “wet” as I might have in a more traditional cloth. The “wet” experience lay somewhere in between traditional cloth and a disposable. They remained very comfortable when wet however and didn’t sag. I tried working outside with one on under my jeans. My physical flexibility was compromised a little but not nearly as much as their bulk would suggest. My legs still work wearing them. The nappy also held up and remained very comfortable across the day. They both leaked the first time I used them: not because they were overloaded but because I wet at an odd angle (kneeling down to do something will often provoke my bladder these days) and that plushie surface was vaguely hydrophobic. Pee simply ran across the internal surface of the nappy into my plastic pants and out to manifest its destiny. To be fair, Rearz warn about this. The V2 require a couple of wash cycles before obtaining full absorbency. There’s quite possibly some kind of fabric softening or coating on them out of the factory. Me being me had simply decided that if I had to wash them to “break them in”, I’d make sure that there was good REASON to wash them. So I peed in them first. Sure enough, they absorbed more quickly on their second shift but they still belie their construction. Polyester doesn’t hold fluid, it merely hinders it on its way somewhere else (hopefully the co-mingled cotton fibres. The V2 DOES absorb but more like a sponge than a paper towel. They can be wrung out. They can squish. Choose your plastic pants carefully. They will have a job to do. The rated absorbency is enigmatically described as 6 “cups” (which I guesstimate to be around 1400ml). This isn’t high relative to modern adult disposable super-nappies but those 10 litre+ claims are predicated upon heroic usage practices never encountered in the real world. Cloth is different. There may well be the full 1400ml available. Sadly, my beloved was on hand and so misusing the kitchen scales to weigh a used one wasn’t an option should I wish to continue residing with her. I would be wary of “squish out” at higher loads though. Rearz suggest overnight use is possible if a booster is added (what kind of booster they did not say; disposable, cloth, solid-rocket fuel?) I didn’t want to risk an overnight run in our shared bed but may do so the next time beloved heads off to visit overnight (assuming the following day looks good for laundry) but I’m cautiously optimistic that they could handle it. So long as I wasn’t TOO wet when I went to bed. So, there you have it. The Rearz Omutsu v2. Bigger, bulkier, more enveloping, softer with better gripping Velcro and leg elastics for a tighter fit. Desperately comfortable to both wear and wet. Absorbency ok but below that which its bulk implies. Thank you polyester. I’m just not 100% convinced on long-haul capacity but I’ll continue to test them. The sizing is generous. Don’t fret about the perpetual non-availability of the “XL” size unless you’re Volkswagen-scaled. Was it worth it? Not at that postage but the base nappy price does seem reasonable and they have been granted status into my permanent cloth nappy rotation schedule. They are SO comfy to wear. -
By Iknownothing · Posted
I'm wearing a rearz hook and loop with a North shore booster. On about 4 hrs now. Its getting wet now. Wont change until I wake up. -
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I guess you would call it lately. I have been wearing diapers to bed for a bit more than a year. I usually wake enough to have a very hazy memory of wetting. I have only had a few times that, even after searching my brain, cannot remember waking. My goal is to sleep wet every night and just be awed by the wetness upon waking in the morning. Although that is a difficult dream to catch, I'm enjoying the journey. I still consider myself a bedwetter because I still awake everyday to a puffy, soaked diaper every morning. So I will stay the course, and see where it leads. -
Merriam Webster Dictionary Definition incontinence noun in·con·ti·nence in-ˈkän-tə-nən(t)s a : inability of the body to control the evacuative functions of urination or defecation b : failure to restrain sexual appetite Cambridge Dictionary Definition incontinence noun uk ɪnˈkɒn.tɪ.nəns us ɪnˈkɑːn.tə.nəns inability to control the excretion of urine or the contents of the bowels: As per dictionary definition, incontinence is either (a) inability of the body to control evacutation OR (b) failure to retain sexual appetite. Now, since you wish to use the actual definition... ... the dictionary definition is "inability to control". For that to be true, there has to be zero control and therefore, for zero control there has to be zero muscle action, as each and every muscle action is a controlled action i.e. it is directed by the brain via motor neurons. Therefore for one to be incontinent, the relevant sphincter (read valve at exit) must be in a relaxed state and open. Yes, there are a percentage of people worldwide that this exists, where they void by gravity 24/7/365 - i.e. constantly weep urine / fecal matter. Most infants, from birth, react to a need, either a full bladder / bowel, and due to either not knowing any better / being taught to do same, trigger their bladder / bowels to relax so they void into a diaper / pants / clothes. This is a controlled response, which over time, becomes autonomic or what is referred to as reflex action. Since this is a controlled responce to a trigger, it contradicts the definition of "inability to control", so there is no way one can define that person as incontinent as it does not match the actual dictionary definition. In biological terms, there is a bypass link in the spine to trigger the bladder / bowel to void, but it is toilet training that interferes with this link to break it. Once broken, it is difficult to allow it to regrow, but in some spinal injury paitents to has been known to regrow. However, medical / surgical intervention in the weeks following the spinal injury with implants etc (stoma / indwelling catheter) defeats the process of the link to re-establish itself. Yes, there are some people that are "incontinent". There is a higher portion that are diaper dependant where they / another on their behalf, choose for them to use a diaper. A high portion of babies / infants are diaper dependant, where another has chosen that the baby / infant uses the diaper and are changed. Some adults, members here as well as others, chose to use a diaper rather than attempt to reach a bathroom. Yes, their body originally, may have given them notice of the need to void, but due to complications relating to getting to a bathroom in time, either relating to mobility / speed / timings or other, the physics and logistics don't work out so they end up voiding in their pants / bed if they chose not to wear some form of protection garment. I will somewhat agree in the statement... ....that an infant may void in a diaper / pants etc., however, defining them as incontinent is identifing a behaviour and then assigning an incorrect term for that behaviour. In relation to the phrase communication ability... ... is another sweeping statement. It is linking a premise of 'abililty to communicate' using terms of reference of being able to communicate with another, and creating a false conclusion. Facts A baby / infant can communicate with its parents. Twins can communicate with each other from birth. A person from a different country can communicate with their fellow country people in their own language. People within a trade / business can communicate via specific business terms. Social groups sometimes use a different language / text to communicate with each other. This does not define either groups as diaper dependant or incontinent due to the fact that not all others can understand. Worldwide age of potty training varies by gender and demographics. The determining factors are based on the following:- Diaper type - cloth vs disposable Full Time parent vs child care facility Social norms / behaviours that are adapted Disposable diapers are designed, and marketed, to remove the feedback to the child that they are wet / messy. As a result, the child is not in incentivized to use a bathroom since the feedback loop is absent. All the child sees is that its diapers are changed whenever. When the child is placed in a child care facility and not under the direct supervision of its parent, it is not a priority to entice the child to toilet train as that requires a one to one interaction almost constantly. In simple terms, an infant / baby / child behaves to mimic what surrounds it, and doesn't question that behaviour - it doesn't know any difference to enable it to query its environment. History shows us that feral children (spent a number of early years in the wild) have a lack of language, walk on all fours, as well as numerous other differences compared to a child raised in 'captivity'. What the feral children usually have, that most children don't develop until at least 7 year old, is a survival and defence mechanism. In the modern world, it is normal to place an infant/baby in disposable diapers, childcare where the parent returns to the workplace. In some countries worldwide, using either elimination communication protocols or similar, the child never 'learns' to void in diapers / pants and to ignore that side of its bodies needs. In the era before disposable diapers, the average age a child was 'potty trained' was between 12 and 18 months. Even as late as 1980's, disposable diaper sizes didn't exist to fit past a 24 month old child. Today, dispoable diaper sizes made by P&G and others that make baby diaper sizes, cover up to ages 12-15 years old. (Yes, I am aware that some ABDL diapers marketed for adults have baby prints etc.) These companies do not produce a product that there is no market for, which deems that there is a large portion of 12-15 year olds that are still diaper dependant due to not being trained, or more correctly, being trained to use a diaper since birth. The concept of 'waiting till s/he is ready' is assigning a decision / / reponsibility to a person that has no motivation to make that decision. As a result, child care specialist suggest creating the motivation either placing said child in cloth 'training pants' and/or in an environment where said child is surrounded / interacting with other children of similar age that are toilet trained. Placing a child in that environment, due to the nature and behaviour of young children (not fully developed pre-frontal cortex), the diaper dependant child will be teased by his/her peers, and, this level of intimidation can cause permenant damage to the diaper dependant child. Even today, a late toilet trained child (later than 2 - 2 1/2 year old) where his/her peers are trained by 1 1/2 - 2 year old, can cause damage. This damage that I refer to is shown as poor level of self-confidence and a weak form of self - independence. From a pscyological and mental growth perspective, where one of the many items a baby/infant learns (refered to as milestones) is delayed, it effects further / higher levels of development. An example of this would be a child entering school with no knowledge of the alphabet where the rest of the class are familiar with same. As a result, this child needs to learn the alphabet in order to keep up with the rest of the class while they are learning combination of letter that form words and sentances. From day one in education, the child is always playing 'catch up' so s/he can equal her/his peers. Similar occur in the world where a child enters an english speaking school only knowing her/his own language. @Slomo may be attempting to equate similar, where it is known that a child with parents of a different mother tounge to the country they live in, the child delays the time it begins to talk. The reason for this is that the child is building a database of words in its mind, and not just a list linked to images of items. In simple terms, the child stores an image of an object where it links it to the two names for it, as compared to the child of single language that stores the name on top of the image. If these children are aware of the alphabet(s), the text form of the word is stored linked to the muscle movement to pronounce the text form. Without knowledge of the alphabet(s), all that is stored is the muscle movement to pronounce the audio sound - where this is copied from the people that surround the child. A child raised in child care, will pronounce the words in the accent of the childcare workers. This was discovered in the last 10-15 years, when a number of childcare workers were casual employees where their pronouncation was 'broken' or 'coloured' by their own nationality. This delay in achieving that level of complex communication does not preclude / prevent the child communicating with its own parents. This has been proven where twins develop their own methodology in communication usually years before they talk. Variances of that is also seen in siblings and/or friends who were made in early childhood and/or some social interactive groups within its members. i.e. SMS text, netspeak etc. A smaller version of 'internal communication protoco' exists within trades - and is referred to as trade based terminology. This is were each trade has its own list of T.L.A.s (two - three letter acronyms). -
By Goodnitesboi · Posted
Interesting. The ad it's self didn't have anyone in diapers, it was essentially promoting their products.
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