Disposable Diapers Doomed For Extintion.

[absorbance irrigator]

I would have like to talk to you all about a subject that has for year haunted my mind.

actually now i come to think of it, already since early childhood when i was approximately 6-7 years in age.

Its a grave and serious issue too, as it will without a doubt in mind wipe out vast numbers off diaper lovers.

The thing im talking about is the large though limited amount of plastic we have left to produce.

most, or perhaps all plastics are made from oil or its by products.

and every one with a teeny tiny bit of common sense knows it has ending supplies.

A smart person would at this stage argue that recycling plastic could give many additional years.

This is true but this does not offer a permanent solution, its merely a way to delay the inevitable.

also i like to add that the probability is great that years from now it will just not be socially accepted any more to produce anything that in essence designed to be throw in the thrash because of the appearing consequences of the disposable culture as we know it today.

This all can lead me only to conclude that disposable diaper are gowning away,... FOREVER.

I know its gone happen its just a matter of time.

I will also be one off the diaper lover "killed in action" as my love only applies to disposable diapers, and have no feelings toward cloth based what so ever.

If the time comes then ill just cease to be a diaper lover as there are no diapers left to love.

And its wrong to assume its something bound to happens in a very distant future.

the disposable/cloth debate is already well under way, and don't expect it to lay down any time soon.

My message to you all is enjoy your diapers as much as you can, as the disposable diapers era is probably soon too end....

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

This will be more of an issue with baby diapers than adult since that makes up about 85% of the diaper market and will be most of an issue with packaging. Just look at how much plastic is used in that field. Before Saran Wrap and Baggies we used to wrap sandwiches for lunch in wax paper

However not all plastics are made with oil, some is with coal and some with natural gas. I would not doubt that some could be made from vegietable material. There have been some attempts to use corn to make bio-degradable bags

This would mark going full-circle to what my parents' generation thought and for which an argument can be made. Correctly used, plastics have made our loves better, safer and longer.

[DAQ]

I don't think this will be much of an issue for any of us. I foresee plastic becoming much more expensive but extinct in our lifetimes? No. In addition from what I have seen DLs typically have a fetish for what they wore as a child, the more cloth used by parents, the more cloth DLs. It should be an interesting transition to say the least and let's hope I am right about plastic!

[lil_baby_wet_n_squishy]

I think everyone on this forum will long be dead before we run out of oil or plastic. Almost everything is made out of plastic and I don't see that changing any time soon.

[LuvsGurl]

Considering they're growing algae that can create oil using garbage and sunlight... I don't think there will be any problems.

[Diaper_Lover_HI]

On Maui plastic bags are non-exsistant, you have to have your own bags when grocery shopping on Maui. I am waiting for the day when disposable diapers are no longer sold. This would be a huge bummer, have been wearing cloth diapers off and on during the day..... nothing beats disposable diapers, however I have to admit the feeling of being in a cloth diaper is nice.... just not a fan of plastic pants....

I feel it is going to be a long process to get rid of the disposable diapers..... hopefully they will be around my entire lifetime...

Stay Diapered!!!!

[Honu]

I saw that one too! It was interesting but they are still quite a ways from making it cheap enough to compete wih crude oil.

[LuvsGurl]

I saw that one too! It was interesting but they are still quite a ways from making it cheap enough to compete wih crude oil.

As the price of crude continues to climb and bio fuel development continues the prices will eventually meet.

[DaddyHatiwolf]

Cloth diapers are no better in the end. They require electricity that is made from polluting the environment in their cleaning. The washing machine and dryer eat up a huge amount of electricity to use ... secondary to running your a/c in your home.

[Rihanna]

I think everyone on this forum will long be dead before we run out of oil or plastic. Almost everything is made out of plastic and I don't see that changing any time soon.

I agree.

[Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover]

As the price of crude continues to climb and bio fuel development continues the prices will eventually meet.

Kimberly-Clark has already begun developing diapers that use an alternative to traditional oil-based plastics. The "Pure & Natural" line uses an organic cotton outer cover, and the material in the diaper itself is largely corn-based. The bag is made out of a biodegradable corn-based plastic if memory serves me correctly, once again circumventing traditional oil-based plastics. SAP is still used in the "Pure & Natural" line, but SAP is known to be biodegradable. Right now the "Pure & Natural" line is a bit more expensive then traditional Huggies Diapers, but that will eventually change. The line has supposedly been very well-received by parents, and I could easily see a day when every line is the "Pure & Natural" line, and every major diaper manufacturer has their equivalent to it. Considering that Kimberly-Clark compares the "Pure & Natural" line to their "Little Movers" line, my guess is that as soon as it's cost-neutral, the "Pure & Natural" line will cease to exist, and the "Little Movers" line will use the "Pure & Natural" technology, for lack of a better term.

I don't see disposable diapers going anywhere anytime soon. The materials used will undoubtedly change, as will the eco-friendliness of disposables, but I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon. LuvsGirl hit the nail on the head here.

[Protection]

As long as there's a demand, there will be a product... designer diapers for adults like ABU's are mostly pretty awesome, I can see more brands in the future, tastes and trends change, I've learned to enjoy more cloth feeling diapers over the years, I was a plastic-backing fundamentalist

[wetatnight]

I don't see disposable diapers disapearing in our life time.

their their is a big demand for them wether for babies or adults and I'm sure the diaper companies would not want their cash cows to disapear.

they may change how their made but they'll still be around.

I think the enviromentalist are gaining to much enfluence over our lives.

[justindiapers]

Given the extent to which plastics and oil are so fully woven into modern life, if the end of oil comes without a suitable replacement being found, I can safely say that the last thing on my mind will be whether or not cloth diapers and rubber pants can fully satisfy my diaper fetish.

[ldatsea]

plastics have been and can be made of anything that produces oil... peanut,soy,corn, etc its just cheaper to make it out of crude... so plastics wont go away when we run out of crude....

[AutieAB]

Can you really see nurses and caregivers the world over changing and cleaning all those cloth diapers if disposables were suddenly unavailable? No, didn't think so Disposables are here to stay for a long time to come.

[WBDaddy]

Given the extent to which plastics and oil are so fully woven into modern life, if the end of oil comes without a suitable replacement being found, I can safely say that the last thing on my mind will be whether or not cloth diapers and rubber pants can fully satisfy my diaper fetish.

Win.

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[redneck diaper boy]

You will not see an end to oil based products in your lifetime.

There is plenty of oil in America and the rest of the world. The only problem is the environmental Nazis. The environmental hacks are actually Marxist and or neo-socialist that want to destroy America. The environazis don't want us to harvest domestic oil.

Rest assured, disposabble diapers will be here forever. For the record, I wear and prefer cloth diapers. I have no desire to force my preference on anyone by law.

I would have like to talk to you all about a subject that has for year haunted my mind.

actually now i come to think of it, already since early childhood when i was approximately 6-7 years in age.

Its a grave and serious issue too, as it will without a doubt in mind wipe out vast numbers off diaper lovers.

The thing im talking about is the large though limited amount of plastic we have left to produce.

most, or perhaps all plastics are made from oil or its by products.

and every one with a teeny tiny bit of common sense knows it has ending supplies.

A smart person would at this stage argue that recycling plastic could give many additional years.

This is true but this does not offer a permanent solution, its merely a way to delay the inevitable.

also i like to add that the probability is great that years from now it will just not be socially accepted any more to produce anything that in essence designed to be throw in the thrash because of the appearing consequences of the disposable culture as we know it today.

This all can lead me only to conclude that disposable diaper are gowning away,... FOREVER.

I know its gone happen its just a matter of time.

I will also be one off the diaper lover "killed in action" as my love only applies to disposable diapers, and have no feelings toward cloth based what so ever.

If the time comes then ill just cease to be a diaper lover as there are no diapers left to love.

And its wrong to assume its something bound to happens in a very distant future.

the disposable/cloth debate is already well under way, and don't expect it to lay down any time soon.

My message to you all is enjoy your diapers as much as you can, as the disposable diapers era is probably soon too end....

[dogpiss]

Natural gas is the "new hotness" in pet chem feed stocks. Surprisingly little oil nowadays is used in poly-plastics. Since nat gas is A LOT cheaper in parts of the world which produce a lot of pet chem, prices for poly-plastics have been relatively stable. In the US, you are actually a net EXPORTER of natural gas thanks to shale gas and fracking . Europe is pretty much Russia's bitch when it comes to natural gas. Asian supplies are rather short as well, Japan having some but many areas in dispute with China and Russia. Most pet chem comes from the Middle East (a Saudi firm owns what used to be General Electric plastics, one of the biggest makers in the world) and North America. Newer plants are getting built in NA because of the (stable) political climate and nat gas supply. Nat gas, unlike oil varies in price around the world depending on locality where crude oil is a commodity traded world wide (prices in Rotterdam are close to prices in Singapore and so on). WTI Cushing is what oil in the US (and to a lesser extent Canada) is priced most commonly (but there are other grades like Brent North Sea). WTI for the grade of crude (West-Texas intermediate) and Cushing as the delivery spot (why Cushing, OK USA, I don't know)

OK I know too much information, but the science geek in me says plastic/disposable diapers are here to stay for a while.

[hidden]

Recycling plastic can only do so much. Not much plastic can be recycled and plastic recycling technology is lacking. To recycle it, plastic needs to be cleaned. However, some plastics are hard/impossible to clean and cannot be recycled.

You may not realize it but plastic even lines the inside of paper cups so it is everywhere!

[waynecook52]

Can you really see nurses and caregivers the world over changing and cleaning all those cloth diapers if disposables were suddenly unavailable? No, didn't think so Disposables are here to stay for a long time to come.

come on get real.what do you think thay used befor thay had dissposables?And im sre the are still many caregivers around who still use cloth.

[LuvsGurl]

And im sre the are still many caregivers around who still use cloth.

Not really.

Generally speaking, the equipment cost and man hours spent laundering cloth diapers for a care facility would be enormous. It's much more practical to go with disposables.

I have worked in two separate care facilities. Both used disposables exclusively.

[curiositykilledthecat]

lol, given the current rate of il consumption as of right now we have still at least a milleniums worth of oil, not including the 900 years worth of oil the environMENTALists won't let us tap into within our own country(dakotas, not anwar)

[WBDaddy]

lol, given the current rate of il consumption as of right now we have still at least a milleniums worth of oil, not including the 900 years worth of oil the environMENTALists won't let us tap into within our own country(dakotas, not anwar)

Seems to be a hell of a lot of drilling going on in Minot/Williston and surrounding. That and the Air Base are pretty much the entire economy, along with medical and retail that services them.

[ItchyTasty]

I smell BULLSHIT, not until hundreds of years at least:

Without plastic you couldn't have computer keyboards, tvs, computer monitors (both with plastic backs and surroundings), printers are made of plastic, computer mice, most electrical items use PLASTIC. NO PLASTIC, mains wiring is ALL pvc coated which is plastic.

And then you'd have NO rubber either.

Ways round if that EVER happened in say 500 years time.... would be to use aramid fibres like nomex,kelvar, twaron, carbon fibre, carbon X, glass fibre/fibre glass.

And then you can get the slightly more expensive diapers made of cornstarch/potato starch as the backing (as in the Moltex and Bambo Nature baby nappies), which are almost fully biodegradable.

So if plastic became extinct, cornstarch/potato starch would replace the plastic for adult diapers.

And harder non-disposable electrical items like the huge amount of plastic tvs, have at the back and around them;and computer keyboards(all plastic).

Would become something like carbon fibre which is used in some expensive fishing rods, etc.

Mains wiring sheaths could become something like carbon fibre or glass fibre coated as it's flexible sometimes and flame resistant unlike pvc.