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  1. Hello fellow maxipad lover! Have been wearing them for about 50 years. I really miss the belted ones that I used to find in my moms bathroom. I couldn’t help but wonder what was in those little blue sacks in her garbage can. Then I decided to find out. It was fun to wear her used ones from time to time and add my jizz to what was already on there.

    Good to know I’m not alone,

    Judy

  2. I’ve heard that KCWW fixed the sides as well, if that’s true I’ll be very happy with these now. Speaking of the new GoodNites, I was looking at boxes of the S/M size for boys and girls today. The boys ones have radioactive symbols consistent with the “Hulk” theme, at least according to the little diaper image on one side of the box. The girls ones on the other hand have a “guitar” (or violin perhaps?) on them in the “Elena of Avalor” packaging. Is there some significance to the guitar/violin that I’m missing? Does anyone have pictures of this particular design? Also speaking of pictures, is there any chance of seeing the following thread updated beyond 2014? Would be nice to have a comprehensive visual guide to North American/United States GoodNites prints, and this is the closest that I’ve seen to one on here.
  3. I have no idea where to even put this, so I’m sticking it here for now. I’ve been going through some of my legacy files lately, including my diaper related ones. Those files include a variety of media, including ads or information from product websites. In this particular case, I have two .swf files from the GoodNites website in 2010. These showed the prints that were coming out that year, including my favorite boys print prior to the current designs, and unlike everything else I have, were interactive. Each .swf file contained four prints, (one file for boys, another for girls,) along with a corresponding button, which you would click to view each print. What I want is to be able to preserve this interactivity in a modern format, and I’m happy to provide the .swf files to anyone willing to convert them. I have a bit of other information pertaining to them too, including the fact that it appears that they’re using a series of jpegs with png alpha images, and that each image only has one “base diaper” image, with the designs of the others just being overlayed on the “base diaper.” I really would like to keep these in a current format for future reference, and appreciate any help anyone can offer.
  4. I stopped using anything Google at home years ago, including their search engine. (I tolerate it at work because I have to, not because I want to.) Email alternatives will vary depending on your needs, but here are a few good alternatives: 1. GMX/Mail.com — Both are owned by the same company with nearly identical services. They’re business oriented, so you get some features that are similar to Gmail. 2. iCloud — Apple’s iCloud email doesn’t include certain features like high/normal/low priority settings that are more common among business users, but it’s great for personal use and very secure compared to most providers. All you need to do is create an Apple ID if you don’t have one already and then set up the mail service. 3. Protonmail — The free version is okay, but if you’re willing to spend a little bit of money this actually becomes a really nice, extremely secure email client. The servers are in Switzerland from what I remember specifically because they have stronger data privacy laws than most countries. If you need something a little more secure, this is a good option.
  5. What’s this phone running? Android, iOS, or something else? The camera app in iOS is awful for anyone who knows what they’re doing, and Android’s is somehow even worse. There are better third party apps, especially on iOS, including ones that give you real control over your camera. I might be able to offer you more advice if I know more about what you’re actually shooting with.
  6. The subject line sort of says it all, apparently GoodNites have gotten a redesign much like Huggies. I don’t have them in hand myself yet, but so far what I’m reading is a mixed bag of softer but with shoddy side panels that are too snug. There is some good news though—apparently KCWW is taking more flack for this than expected and seems to actually be surprised so maybe we’ll see a silent upgrade to the side panels soon too. It wouldn’t be the first time, I seem to recall a similar issue with the 2010 redesign back in the day being addressed swiftly too. Okay, so without the product in hand I can’t do too much first hand commentary but here’s what I can comment on. THE GOOD: New L/XL designs! These are long overdue for both boys and girls and I have a new favorite for both that I definitely hope stick around as long as the last designs did. Boy’s prints: Space/Planets and stripes Girl’s prints: Space/Stars and cupcakes Okay, I’m not big on the stripes designs, but I love the planet designs for boys and the stars for girls. The cupcakes are super cute too, and we actually have prints that are truly different and not the thousandth butterflies and camo designs, yay! THE BAD: The new packaging! 1984 called, it wants its bedazzled look and gradient back. I get it, the 80’s are back, and I actually don’t mind the gradient at all, but I do mind not seeing the diaper on the front of the package which is a design flaw that carried over from the previous packaging and was introduced around 2013 or so. And this brings me to... THE UGLY: The fugly new logo. Seriously, whoever came up with this bedazzled mess should be canned. They were probably some idiot marketer with no concept of graphic design too based on my experience with how crap like this gets through. My biggest complaint is that the new logo is barely legible, and that alone makes it lower quality than the previous one which I considered a high point. At another level though, the bedazzled look, which I’m guessing is meant to be stars, doesn’t work and looks excessively girly. This is fine for girls GoodNites, but on the boys packaging, especially for the S/M size where it’s above The Hulk, it looks aggressively out of place, and comically so. The idea is good, the execution is awful. The previous logo was legible and didn’t look unintentionally gendered. I don’t mind an update, but I do mind a step backwards. I’m still looking forward to actually trying these in person. My initial reactions would be a lot more positive if not for the reports of shoddy side panels. The logo is something I could always live with, but as someone who knows what good logos look like, seeing a bad one just bugs me. I would love to hear feedback on these from others who’ve tried them.
  7. So I tried these last year, and OMG, these are my new favorite diaper! (Huggies were tied with them prior to that awful redesign they just did.) I love the prints, I love how soft these are, and I'm looking forward to getting more of them ASAP. Not only do these hold a lot, they're great at taking a pounding if you "play" with your diaper. So it's actually quite interesting to see how these have changed over the years. I remember wanting them when they were new but not being able to get them without a subscription which I wasn't able to do at the time. Interestingly, the white and skull print designs in this picture are still available, but none of the others are. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a return of some of the other classic designs though. Honest Company has been consistent with their cute prints, and I have a feeling they're going to continue to be around for decades to come. I'll admit that early on I was skeptical, but things have changed and this company has proven that they can sell these and that they work. They've also inspired a slew of copy cats and competitors for this kind of diaper, and apparently even P&G has taken notice and put out Pampers Pure as a result. I really like Honest Company's diapers, and I would definitely recommend these if your preferred diapers are baby/youth disposables as mine are.
  8. (Trying this again since I fell asleep writing my original reply.) Okay, let me preface this with a bit of background information: Huggies have been my go to diaper since I was a teenager, possibly earlier. My two favorite diaper brands are Huggies and Honest Company, and they're effectively deadlocked for that #1 spot. At least they were prior to this redesign. I'm going to debunk one slight myth about these, but that's about as forgiving as I'll be. I've been keeping an eye on the prices of diapers for at least a decade now, (especially Huggies diapers,) as well as the quantity in various packages. The very first size 6 diapers ever, (Huggies Ultratrim "AKA Snug N Dry" in today's line) came with 18/pack. This number has NEVER decreased below that, and ten years ago was at about 23/pack. The new "Little Movers," ("Huggies Supreme" in the line when size 6 was first introduced,) have now dropped to 16/pack, and I'm pretty sure they debuted at 18/pack as well, but would need to find some photos that prove this. That being said, I have also never seen the price decrease on packages of these as much as I did with the new design. It looks like these have had a dollar, maybe a little more knocked off the price at stores around here, divide that up and you're actually paying less per diaper. Unfortunately, this means nothing when the diapers are so absolutely awful that they might as well come "pre-peed" and "pre-pooped" so you can just have them leak immediately instead of after a couple of hours. I could quote far more of the post above, but then this reply would be a series of novels instead of just one novel. I'll try to split my comments by the paragraphs above. The Overnites and Little Movers are completely redesigned. From what I understand a similar redesign was done last year with Little Snugglers which now come in sizes up to size 6, and with Snug N Dry as well. Those are the first ones that I noticed took a quality nosedive. KCWW really needs to learn that the canned response from the copy/paste intern doesn't cut it anymore. Millennials see right through that marketing BS and move onto the next brand if that's the reply they get. "Your call is important to us" was the equivalent of this for the non-smartphone generation. What's most telling though is that the Little Movers at the very least actually have stickers with photos of the old packaging on the Jumbo packs that say something like "New look, same great diaper" as if to mislead consumers into thinking that all they've done is changed the packaging and the prints, which anyone with half a brain can tell is a lie as soon as they open the package. Oh, and unsurprisingly, consumers aren't falling for this BS either. The Huggies website is riddled with one star reviews from angry moms reporting leaks, rashes, and a marked drop in quality on a product they trust around their little ones most sensitive areas. The capacity is pathetic as noted above and noted by many others. No one is seeing through this and I'd personally fire every person on the marketing team who thought they could fix the fact that the product sucks with typical marketing techniques like new packaging and updated graphics, which by the way, happen to be hideous. (Does KCWW not have access to actual graphic designers? I don't mean marketing firms with graphic designers, I mean freelance designers who can do something cutting edge without having it become design by committee through a marketing firm. The packaging is fine, but the diapers themselves look awful.) The Little Movers line is Huggies flagship diaper, it's supposed to be the pinnacle of their diaper designs. The Snug N Dry line is their "bread and butter" line for any parent who wants a decent diaper on a budget. It's a very functional no-frills diaper, or at least it's supposed to be, the last redesign nixed the "functional" part. Overnites are a niche diaper, but the parents who need them really need them. If you have a kid whose a pee super-soaker or does a good impersonation of a pony in a poop pile, these are the difference between washing sheets in the morning and not washing sheets in the morning. They're comparable to Little Movers in terms of cost, but lose features that aren't necessary for a night time diaper to offset the cost increase of additional materials. (Double-grip strips for moving toddlers? No need for those on a diaper being used for a sleeping baby, take them off. Size-up indicators? Cheap overall, but no need to print them on overnights, lose them too.) Little Snugglers in their current form look like they're supposed to be a line in between Snug N Dry and Little Movers, for babies who aren't quite active, but who still need something a step above Snug N Dry. The old Little Movers had great capacity so I doubt that the new Overnites are those. The New Little Movers have the same capacity complaints as the new Overnites, it sounds like an across the board problem with the redesign. Kimberly-Clark has lost market share because they've gotten cheap, done a poor job of communicating with customers and actually offering what they want, and as has been noted before, they now have real competition from other brands, and that's no longer just P&G's Pampers. Oh, and P&G actually learned from their Dry Max fiasco that they had to interact with Millennial consumers a lot differently than they did with consumers in the past, and had to do so at a much more personal level. KCWW never had to learn this lesson and it's now costing them. If you think Millennials are bad when it comes to wanting this level of personalization, just wait until Gen Z starts having more kids. (The first Gen Zers just graduated from college this year, some who didn't go to college are already parents, and they make Millenials look impersonal with the level of personalization and customization that they expect.) This is only going to become a bigger problem for companies that don't catch up, especially with a product like this, and KCWW needs to catch up now if they want a shot at the #1 spot again. KCWW has also ignored what their consumers have been asking for in a diaper line. 4T-5T Pull-Ups in the "Night-Time" line have been requested for well over a decade now. KCWW came up with a new smaller size in the Learning Designs line that no one wanted or asked for instead, and they did so after shrinking the 4T-5T Pull-Ups so much that parents began requesting 5T-6T Pull-Ups with Learning Designs. Then you have GoodNites. Parents have been requesting XXL GoodNites for years, and as the designs have shrank the number of parents asking for a larger size has only increased. KCWW's reaction? They released an XS size that's smaller than the S/M size, which again nobody wanted or asked for. I almost wonder if this was meant for the people asking for 4T-5T Night-Time Pull-Ups, and if the marketing team just has their head so far up their diaper that they couldn't see how this was going to backfire and blow up in their faces the way that it has. Meanwhile the people who need XXL GoodNites still have nothing and the parents who need 4T-5T Night-Time Pull-Ups aren't looking at GoodNites because they don't think they're for potty training. (They also don't have the same kind of sides as Pull-Ups, which are something that parents of toddlers appreciate that doesn't affect parents of older bedwetters.) That brings us back to the Huggies line though. Within the past three years the availability of size 7 diapers has exploded, as has the demand for them. KCWW sells Huggies in Size P-6, and their 6 has shrunk to the size of some other brands size 5s. KCWW hasn't released a size 7, and this is the company that made size 6 a reality. (Back in 2007 it didn't make sense, but things have changed since then.) KCWW nixed the "Mega" size packaging, which really should have been called "normal," which forces parents into either buying an oversized box that they might not be able to store efficiently, or afford on their budget, and a tiny Jumbo pack that's one step away from being travel size. The "Mega" pack was popular for a reason--it was just shy of $20 and you could get a reasonable amount of diapers in it that would last through your next grocery run. To be fair, everyone has sort of done this, but KCWW's Mega Packs were the ones that most stores had stocked, which would indicate that they were the ones that had been selling. Back in 2017 KCWW did limited edition gender specific diapers at Target, except they didn't say that they were a limited edition item up front. Parents loved them, Target couldn't keep them in stock, and KCWW pulled the plug on them after their limited run. Note that this is when their profits started to slip. This is mind-numbingly stupid! They had a hit on their hands, they should have expanded it, and if retail stores didn't want it, sold the line on Amazon where retail space wasn't an issue and you could store two skus easily. KCWW tried to hide the page for these on their website and didn't. The backlash from angry parents who had lost their new favorite diaper was swift and it was fierce, and it probably cost them more than a few customers. Now add in the constant shrinking of the product and subsequent quality decreases and you have a recipe for disaster. Unfortunately, it would have made more sense to increase prices. KCWW actually did about a year ago, and a bit before that as well. It was only a little bit, and P&G did it too, but it was very much a "lobster in a boiling pot" situation where the heat was turned up slowly so that you didn't feel it until you were dead, or in this case, paying $2-5 more per package eventually. They would have been better off eating the backlash for a year knowing that P&G would either have to do the same thing or reduce their quality to compete on price than being the company that suffered in the quality department and now looks cheap with the reduced product count on top of that. There are two other things worth noting about current diaper buying consumers too. 1. It's no longer just the mothers, but also the fathers that actually matter when it comes to buying diapers. There was definitely a time when it didn't matter what dad thought about buying diapers because that was something that mom did while dad was at work, and dad had no interest in being anywhere near a diaper change. That time has ended though and dad is increasingly just as likely to be changing and buying diapers as mom is here in 2019. Increasingly, videos made about baby products by consumers are being done by dad, not mom, and this goes double for diapers in particular. In a world where dad is just as likely to be the parent at home with the kids as mom, dad is just as important to reach as a consumer, and probably even more important since this is really the first generation where dad is taking on as much responsibility in this department and unlike mom, is likely not just going to "use what mom used." You're basically dealing with a sophisticated generation that's cautious with their money, and if you claim you have a premium product, you'd better deliver. It's also worth noting that thanks to the opioid epidemic, grandparents are once again diaper consumers sometimes both for their grandchildren amd themselves. While this isn't a market anyone wants to have in existence to begin with, it does unfortunately exist and getting those people who might have bought Huggies for their baby back for the Grandchildren they're now raising is worth pursuing, especially since it looks like things are only going to get a whole lot worse in this regard before they get any better. This still isn't as big of a market as fathers, but it's large enough to pay attention to. 2. The millenial and gen Z parents that are buying diapers now are extremely environmentally conscious. There's a reason that the Honest Company can charge the kind of markup that they do for their diapers, and that similar eco-friendly diapers cost almost/just as much. One other thing that Honest Company has figured out is the kind of customization/personalization that I mentioned earlier in the sense that they offer a whole slew of prints regularly, along with roughly four limited edition prints for each season that get rotated out around the time that the seasons change. While this started off just as something fun that was a unique way to set Honest Company products apart from the competition, (we're an eco-friendly diaper with cute prints!) it's going to become mandatory if you want to reach gen Z. KCWW is a multimillion dollar corporation, and I refuse to believe that they couldn't apply economies of scale to this concept and create more customized diapers that would attract their gen Z consumers before a competitor like P&G beats them to it. They already offer personalizable newborn size diapers online, but they could do so much more to appeal to the emotional side of their consumers in this regard. On the rational side, right around the time that the Honest Company was starting up, KCWW was offering eco-friendly Huggies in a line called "Pure & Natural" that basically was meant to compete with companies like Honest. The problem was that it only went up to size 5, it was more expensive in the middle of a recession, and the line as a whole looked like a caricature of what eco-friendly diapers were. Honest Company had bright, beautiful, gorgeous diapers that looked as good as a mainstream diaper. Huggies Pure & Natural looked like a Seventh Generation diaper of that era with ugly faded designs that didn't come across as cute or cheerful. (This was a criticizm of most early eco-friendly disposables.) Instead of retooling and updating the line though, KCWW let it languish, and then discontinued it when it didn't sell well, which might have been because test after test showed that they weren't very absorbent compared to other eco-friendly diapers.) Basically, KCWW was too early with the right product and mismanagement killed it. Now we have P&G taking a shot at the same market with Pampers Pure, and while they're not bumping off Honest Company or even other eco-friendly brands like Seventh Generation or Hello Bello, they're keeping the Pampers name relevant in a way that KCWW isn't with Huggies. KCWW is selling and designing diapers like its 2009 and not 2019, and that's not going to get them very far if they want Huggies to stay on the market. Remember, I like Huggies, I'm not someone who has a "beef" with them, but this latest like is a joke. I cannot in good conscience recommend it to my friends who are parents that are buying diapers for their kids, and I can't even really justify these for myself when Honest Company's offerings are so much better. For awhile I was splitting my diaper purchases between the two because I liked both, but in their current form, Huggies are a mess. It's one thing to make something more efficient, it's another to make it unusable. P&G used to have a second diaper brand that you could find everywhere: Luvs. Then they cheapened them to the point that nobody wanted them and now most stores don't even carry them. (And why would they? They're awful.) If KCWW doesn't want to wind up having Huggies look like Luvs with their shelf space replaced by Pampers and a bunch of new brands, they have to completely rethink what they're doing and make some serious changes.
  9. This. How is this thread still alive? Its been pure bunk from the moment it was posted. The day Pampers size 8 or Huggies size 7 exist, I'm sure this place will be plastered with proof of them, at least I'd expect it to be. The one small glimmer of hope for more size 7s is that the Pampers ones actually seem to be selling now and have been for the past few years, so the question now is whether or not KCWW decides to play catch-up with Huggies and if anyone else decides to follow suit with them. No because they don't exist, at least not in the US, not unless you're talking about those test diapers. The one way Pampers "size 8" exist involves some tortured logic and flawed marketing on P&G's part, and they're not really "size 8." On part of their website, and subsequently on Amazon, Pampers lists (or at least listed) UnderJams with size S/M as "Size 7" in parentheses, and size L/XL as "Size 8" in parentheses. Naturally, someone sees the words "Pampers" and "Size 8," sees them on the website, ignores the word "UnderJams" and the parentheses, and we get posts like this. They're not really "size 8" though, and P&G doesn't label them as "size 8" on the packaging. The day UnderJams are labeled as "size 8" and not L/XL, I'll concede that Pampers is making size 8 "diapers" with the quotes around "diapers" since we're supposed to believe that they're totally not diapers even though they do the same job. But no, there's no size 8, not in the US anyway.
  10. This is exactly why I haven't flown diapered, although after my last flight involved a sleeping bowling ball between my seat and the lunchbox that passed for an airplane's bathroom, I've seriously reconsidered as a matter of practicality. I would honestly say where what you like and just tolerate the screening. Remember, the job is just as unpleasant for the TSA agent as it is for you, and everyone at the checkpoint is worried about the same thing: getting to their plane on time, not seeing one passenger's diaper. I'd actually argue that anyone interested in your diaper is likely an AB/DL as well, in which case after you both clear security, it might be worth inquiring to see if they'll admit that's why they were staring. (At the very least they'll feel as awkward as you did! ) When were you pulled aside in Amsterdam? I'm asking because I know Europe has been on edge lately over security as a result of credible threats to the region. This is why there's a ban on laptops in the cabin for flights heading to the US from Europe, (which in and of itself has created another issue by having scores of lithium-ion batteries sitting in a cargo hold, which could be just as effective at bringing a plane down as the terrorists plan to fill a laptop with explosives, ironically accomplishing exactly what it's supposed to prevent,) and why there was consideration taken to extend that ban to everything larger than a smartphone. Given that the infamous "Fruit-of-Kaboom" underwear bomber used diaper material in his (thankfully) poorly constructed bomb, I fully understand why the security guy in Amsterdam did the extra screening and used a metal detector. Granted, I know it's invasive and I'm sorry that you were subjected to it, but I can see why it happened. Wear your Rearz Princess diapers, if only as defiance to the terrorists who would have you change who you are. Occasionally (read: very rarely) I'll wear something in pink, especially since pink is one of my company's colors, and I also have a pink electronic device. If you saw me though, you wouldn't be calling me "girly" based off of other physical appearances. (I may be "girly" but I look like I can turn most people into a "manly" shade of black and blue, even though I never would.)
  11. I've done this with both diapers and menstrual pads, both of which are outstanding for *ahem* self-pleasure. I find baby diapers to typically be better than adult diapers for this by virtue of the fact that I can basically wet them a little, enjoy and ejaculate, and then discreetly get rid of them in a way that I can't get rid of adult diapers easily. If you only have time for a quick emission, this is just more economical than wasting an adult diaper. My preferred brand is Huggies, but Luvs and Pampers work in a bind too. (I also use Pull-Ups and GoodNites, it really depends on what I'm in the mood for.) For menstrual pads the process is similar except I don't pee in them, (a female friend may have provided something in them for me though under certain conditions, ) and kind of have figured out which ones are better for any given type of stimulation: Always Maxi: Textured but cushioned, good if you want extra stimulation, but not so good if you grind or rub really hard Always Ultra Thin: Textured, can be kind of "sand-papery" if you rub too hard, but good if you're going slow and trying to prolong an orgasm Stayfree Maxi: Soft, cushiony, and relatively thick, perfect for fast rubbing and hard grinding Stayfree Ultra Thin: soft, cushiony, but obviously thin, good if you're already partially aroused and tends to stand up to grinding more than maxi pads do U by Kotex Maxi: Similar to Always Maxi, and definitely not recommended for hard rubbing or excessive grinding. Good if you rub slowly and gently though and like the extra cushioning U Kotex Ultra Thin: Similar to Always Ultra Thin, very textured, and definitely not recommended for lots of grinding or rough rubbing, if you're going with slow long strokes though, these are great, they might even be my favorite ultra thin pad when I remember my own advice to go slow U by Kotex "Security" Maxi: These used to be the "Natural Balance" line, they're soft and cushiony, and quite comfy to play with. I don't know if they're my favorite maxi, but they might be close, they'd probably be my favorite if they had giant overnights like Always and Stayfree though U by Kotex "Security" Ultra Thin: Soft, similar to stayfree but without a scent For every other brand just see who they say to compare their product too, and work off of that, I can't comment on some of the more obscure "natural" brands as I haven't tried them. (Granted, if anyone wants to send me a couple identical packages of them, I'd be more than happy to tell you what I think of them, LOL!)
  12. I'll reiterate what I said a little over two years ago: I should also add that one problem with ordering online is that even with tracking, I may not be around to receive the package if I'm working, and with flat out insane hours, I can't even attempt to time a delivery for when I'm around. The last thing I'd want is rain waterlogging my expensive diaper purchase, a mangled box being visible to all as they pass my porch for hours on end, or the least likely of the three, someone going "oh look, a big box, must be valuable, I think I'll steal it." (While highly unlikely in this neighborhood it's still a possibility, a neighbor down the street found his vehicle missing from the end of his driveway one night before it was ultimately recovered, but that's probably the only time something like that has happened here in 25 years.) At a store I can not only pick my diapers out in person, I can buy them at a time that best suits me. It's not about being seen with them, it's about not having them seen sitting outside in front of my house for hours on end when I'm not around, especially baby diapers that I can literally buy at any hour of the day from a store that stays open 24 hours.
  13. I've got another one that you guys might want to consider, particularly if you buy your diapers from Amazon: Freemyapps.com. This is available on both Android and iOS, although the iOS "App" is now basically relegated to your browser of choice rather than an app. Open Freemyapps, follow the instructions, (usually download an app and try it for 30 seconds,) and voila, you've got points in Freemyapps. After you reach a certain point threshold you can cash your points in for things like iTunes or Amazon Giftcards. While PayPal is an option, it requires a bit more points if memory serves me correctly, (read more time in the app,) so you're better off just grabbing a giftcard if you're going to buy something on any given site anyway. You'll note that I singled out Amazon earlier, and I did so for two reasons. First, Amazon actually sells diaper stuff, (including some AB/DL diapers,) and second, since Amazon gift cards never expire and Freemyapps points do, you can just keep cashing out Amazon giftcards and saving them in your giftcard balance until you're ready to spend them. The other options above might pay out more, but if you find yourself trying a lot of apps anyway, you might want to give Freemyapps a shot as well.
  14. Let's split this into segments since you're really mentioning a few different things here. Starting right at the beginning, there are more than a few people who play with used diapers, sometimes their own, and sometimes someone else's. I've played with my own wet ones before, and I've played with wet ones from others on occasion as well. There are more AB/DLs that do this than will likely admit it on here, in part because of the reaction that you've witnessed above. Most of those whom I've met have admitted that reactions like those above are the reason they're no longer active on this site, especially if this is something they enjoyed a lot and a major component of their fetish that they felt they couldn't discuss openly on here. Okay, onto the next part of what you've addressed. I don't believe I've ever seen anyone simply piling their diapers up in their house and jumping in them like a leaf pile. If they're simply being stored piled up in the house to waft about as they please, then yeah, that's really a bit out there even for us. However, if they were piled up for the sole purpose of being played with, I don't see it as any different than half of the other stuff done with this fetish. I don't have enough information to really criticize these people, because if they were holding onto trash bags full of diapers, concealing odors as best as possible, and then playing with them by piling them up, that doesn't seem too odd or unreasonable to me. If they're just lying on the floor though then yeah, that's a bit out there. To your last point, define "normal." Nobody here is "normal" and anyone anywhere who claims to be is either lying or one of those people with the personality of a cardboard box. You get to be "normal" by standing next to someone whose less "normal" than you are, that's really how it works. The people playing with used diapers are just one more subset of the community, no different than the AB subset or any other. One last point, there are at least some people who have a trash fetish, and that overlaps with their diaper fetish, or diapers are a part of the trash fetish. In either case playing in a pile of used diapers is likely going to bring that group of people far more pleasure than wearing one clean one, especially if they're the type of person who views diapers as the ultimate form of trash to play with. (Not all trash fetishists are into diapers though, just as not all AB/DLs enjoy the same things, but the ones who are into diapers tend to really enjoy them.) If I hold onto wet diapers to play with later, they get bagged up, (often multiple times,) and then enjoyed before eventually being disposed of. I do not leave them loose on the floor or in random piles though.
  15. Usually underwear, disposable diapers/training pants/night pants are a treat for me when I have the chance to wear them, once you get into the absorbent stuff though it becomes harder to subdivide it as I tend to split my use of various things pretty evenly.
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