DaveeBEd

Personally I find both the ABDL and Incontinence Desires community welcoming on here, but I'm not an ABDL however I do have a significant desire to become iC, ideally urinary and bowel.Some people wisely warned me against untwining and I respect their views as its clearly not a state many people would want to be in and I accept I am essentially giving myself an invisible or barely visible disability. Nevertheless I thought long and hard before going down this route and as my control diminishes and the inconveniences are not be ignored I have no regrets, but I am thankful for all the messages of support and also of the wise words of discouragement I received on here.

Hi Many people on here have successfully untrained themselves, as mentioned above in the Incontinence Desires section which covers numerous successful and on-going attempts at this, including my own documented within the 12 Month program section of the above mentioned Forum

I think a rubber sheet would be very sweaty, having worn rubber in the past I would not like to sleep on it full-time, however my mattress protector is rubber backed. On top of that I put a standard sheet, then a disposable bed mat, then the cut down sheet that I refer to earlier in this thread and I wear a Tena heavy dual incontinence disposable diaper and plastic pants.

Not yet, but I'm perfectly happy with the concept and am clearly losing some control as my bladder IC increases

One tip to ease changing in the middle of the night is to cut an old sheet down so it covers the protection mat on top of your main sheet and mattress protector then if you do have to change in the middle of the night its likely to be just the half sheet and first protector that you have to change which only a takes a couple of minutes, especially if you have them spare beside the bed.

Whilst I don't believe I'd be classified as medically IC yet, I certainly love the fact that my control and bladder capacity have diminished so considerably. I can't ever imagine wanting to go back.

I'm still untwining and so far have no regrets other than the frustration tat genuine incontinence isn't happening quickly enough. At present i have no plans to retrain myself, but even after 9 months of 24/7 I rather doubt I could ever fully retrain myself to the level of control I previously had.

You are right I don't expect someone to come up and say "are you wearing a diaper" But I do get a kick out of someone just noticing and me occasionally spotting a subtle snigger. I heard two teenage girls doing just that a couple of weeks ago. I perversely loved it!

The humiliation is certainly a large part of it for me. Don't rush your decision in going 24/7 the time has to be right but the very best of luck whatever path you take.

I try to keep as relaxed as possible (easier said than done!) but especially as soon as you feel the slightest need to pee then especially try to relax so you let out small amounts very regularly and to assist in this always have a glass of water/other liquid in front of you. I probably drink at least a half pint every hour when awake

If anyone has noticed my diaper they've never commented. I rather wish someone would, i'm discrete about it but it would be a wonderfully humiliating thrill for me if it was mentioned

Couldn't agree more, no=one has ever commented to me!

I don't remember being diapered or wetting the bed as a kid so I must have stopped quite early. I'm making myself IC by choice so my fetish can't be connected to remembering being wet as a kid. I started re-diapering myself for bed every night about 9 months ago aged 49.

Hi, Firstly let me say this topic is aimed at those like me who have chosen to wear diapers purely as part of a fetish or have chosen to make themselves diaper dependent, again like me. I know many people on here are diaper wearers due to an accident etc and so have little choice, this topic isn't really aimed at those individuals. I've been thinking about the psychology behind diaper wearing and the draw to incontinence lately and wondered how I actually went down this path and wanted to find out what drew others along it and how and when they discovered that it was their primary fetish! I thought that before expecting others to answer this question I should answer it myself, so here goes. In my 20s I struggled with my sexuality, I felt I must be gay but didn't want to admit it. I had a few girlfriends but generally was too shy to ask any girls out probably with hindsight I didn't really want to go out with them and let my shyness mask the fact that I was gay. As my income increased in my late 20s I would occasionally visit a dominatrix, essentially trying to find out what turned me on and I soon discovered I didn't really get turned on by the pain but I did by the humiliations that she heaped upon me. Then one day in an offhand way she suggested I visit her small nursery and she'd turn me into an adult baby. I think at the time with the Internet in its relative infancy I knew very little about that actual scene. A little while later there I was locked in a diaper and frilly pants in a cot being fed from a bottle. I was resistant to pee in the diaper at first and felt frankly ridiculous dressed in that way, but I did like the humiliation imagining being seen dressed as I was. Then when I finally relaxed enough to wet myself that first feeling of the warm pee soaking into my diaper was blissful and seemed like the greatest high I'd ever experienced and it soon dawned on me that the concept of having to wear a diaper and not being able to control one's own bladder to me seemed like the ultimate humiliation. This feeling gradually grew to more regular wearing and various failed attempts at untraining until I have now reached the point where I've been 24/7 for nine months and am an openly gay diaper wearer. I hope that wasn't too boring and I'd love to hear your stories.

Hi Steve that's exactly right it all helps to make it seem more natural that its always a little heavy and for me anyway that wonderful sense of risk that it could actually leak soon but changing just in time before that happens

I'm so so jealous!!!

You're exactly right there, never ever hold it in

Hi DiaoerDean Its good to have a schedule of drinking as the more liquid you take in then the more needs to come out, but I wouldn't recommend a time to release your bladder. You need to simply stay as relaxed as possible and as soon as you feel the slightest urge to pee,let it out without forcing it in any way and you need to learn to do that wherever you are and whatever you're doing. Also I feel you are changing your diaper too soon after peeing. You need to become entirely comfortable in a wet diaper and stay in it for at least two hours and ideally longer after peeing. I hope this helps

9 Month update I have made it to 9 Months! I'd like to say that again I have not worn underwear for 9 months. I really never thought I'd manage to get this far! I can't claim to be incontinent yet and certainly not doubly incontinent which has been my goal and unfortunately i'm not a bedwetter yet, but progress is being made very slowly. I'll deal with progress on each of these. 1. Bladder IC if I'm busy working or doing anything that I have to focus on for any length of time, I will suddenly realise that I'm wet. I rarely if ever now get the feeling that I need to pee or if I do, as soon as I realise there's a need, a flow ha started. However when I say a flow, I do not think its ever a stream as it would have been 9 months ago. I release a very small amount very regularly which is pretty close to incontinence I believe. When I've had a shower or am changing my diaper there will always be a slight dribble before I've finished the change or before I've finished drying myself completely if I've had a shower. But I feel this is most obvious after changing a soiled diaper. This obviously takes significantly longer than simply changing a heavy diaper and in that extended time I've noticed there's always a dribble. I've now trained myself not to try and clench down to stop this, even if it runs the risk of splashing on to the new clean diaper, but most pleasing of all I don't believe I'd actually be able to stop the dribble even if I tried. I don't know why I feel this but I'm beginning to feel I have very little control now. A really good thing though is that unless I've soiled my diaper I can go longer without changing as my bladder clearly holds far less, so there seems to be limited chance of a genuine leakage. 2. Bowel Incontinence.I'm still dreaming of genuinely losing control of my bowels. However the control I do have has clearly diminished. I think I've mentioned before that I suffer from mild IBS, now on what would have been a day when I might have had to work hard to hold it back and go to the toilet quite quickly, that would be impossible. When I need to go there is very little warning. Also my stress incontinence here has become quite obvious, any laughter sneezing or heavy lifting is likely to lead to some small release and whenever I break wind something is released. So all that is very good, but I haven't yet achieved what I want, which is to get zero warning and for it to just flow out. I suppose what I'm trying to describe is the automatic releases I get similar to stress incontinence but at any time quite independent of what I'm doing. Perhaps this is an impossible dream? 3. Bedwetting -Sadly, just the one night which is now over three weeks ago so I'm beginning to think I simply woke in the night and released as I've been doing for the past 9 months but simply don't remember doing so. I'm still desperately hoping this will happen soon. Finally again hugs and kisses to Charles for his continued support.

Don't feel shame, if it's what turns you on and it is for me then just go for it. I like you get a real kick from the humiliation that people might know, its wonderful isn't it?

Hi I think this is a great topic and I really am a mass of contradictions but I'm delighted to give you my thoughts below: 1. By informing multiple people within your life you make switching back to regular underwear virtually impossible from a practical standpoint. And by informing people from every aspect of your life you make switching a small part of your life impossible as well. Ans: Firstly I've wanted to make myself IC for a long time and had a number of failed attempts at going 24/7 in the past,never staying the course for much more than a month. Then about 12 months ago a number of aspects in my life came together to enable me to do this. I found myself living alone for the first time in a number of years and I'd recently become self-employed meaning I worked from home up to 90% of the time. So this meant I could relatively easily wear 24/7 with a minimum number of people to tell. A few close gay friends who I told that I was doing this essentially for fetishistic reasons (the gay community is much more open in this regard!) and a few clients who I told I had a medical problem that may resolve itself giving me a potential escape clause if I gave up as I had in the past. 2. The process of informing people greatly increases the confirmation within one's own pysche is greatly increased greatly advancing what I call physcological incontinence. That is identifying and living life as an incontinent person. Ans: This is definitely true, also one of my kinks is the need for humiliation and if you think about it, to many people not being able to control your bladder/bowels would be considered pretty humiliating so here there was a sense of both confirming to myself the need to be incontinent whilst also satisfying my need for humiliation as I told people. 3. As more people know you become desinsitized to people finding out that you wear or caring if they find out only amplifying 1 and 2. Ans: Again this is true, whilst I don't flaunt the fact that I'm in diapers I get a wonderful humiliating thrill if I feel someone has seen the top of my plastic pants or heard them rustling/spotted a bit of a bulge! You also mention changing in public. After 9 months I still get an amazing kick out of changing in a pubic restroom. I love being out, knowing that my soiled diaper is starting to dry against my bottom and I need to change it soon and I'm not necessarily close to a public toilet. Then when we find one, as we all know, they're not always very clean and the additional organisation you need to take into account the opening of your backpack, taking the new diaper our carefully then dropping your trousers and plastic pants removing soiled heavy diaper, using wet wipes and toilet roll, then applying barrier cream, and replacing a clean diaper before even thinking of whether the bin is large enough to take the newly bagged soiled diaper is simply wonderful. The additional thrill is it that it still takes me at least 10 minutes to go thorough all of this, making me feel I really have in some small way disabled myself as this basic task takes so long now and I love every single humiliating moment of it!

I doubt there have been any physical changes after a month. It took me at least 6 months of being 24/7 before I began to dribble. I have now reached the stage where I believe there's an almost constant but very slight dribble.

I think I'd actually get a kick out of being challenged and telling them why, its my humiliation thing!

Yes over here as long as you have a key they're great. Also people seem to me much more understanding if they see you coming out of one, as more people seem to be aware that not all "disabilities" are visible.

If only I was at that stage I am very envious