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This post will only be of interest to UK members who’ve managed to achieve dual IC, so apologies to everyone else. I’m unable to find Nullo in the UK post brexit. Does anyone know where I can get some or if there’s an Alternative? I’ve completely run out and am starting to become a little smelly!

I think a lot of people on here have misunderstood my original post. I have no desire to be disabled other than my incontinence which I worked hard to achieve. However as I mentioned I do enjoy putting myself in a vulnerable situation which is why I’m considering using a wheelchair as a pretender to enhance my vulnerability and be dependent on my partner when I’m out in a social type situation. i hope I haven’t offended anyone

I am terribly sorry to hear of your situation and my fetish in know way are meant as some kind of slur or belittling of people with disabilities that they did not inflict on themselves such as yours. I will retain the use of my legs and will exercise every day at home. If I chose to do this it is because I partly have a desire to be vulnerable in some way and diaper wearing and the problems associated with changing in public etc still give me immense pleasure. However going out and being pushed around in a chair by my partner “may” and I emphasise May enhance this further. Thankfully my partner and I are both reasonably financially secure and will buy our own chair should we both decide that I should embark on this. thank you for replying Wow I am very impressed. Do you have a partner/career who takes you out? also, as well as being DD 24/7 do you stay in character as a disability pretender full-time and are you wheelchair bound? are you a member of any on-line pretender forums? sorry so many questions!

I haven’t posted here for a while as I haven’t had much to say having achieved my goal of becoming dual IC over 12 months ago. As some of you may know from my previous postings I was driven towards diaper dependency partly by some masochistic desire to suffer and be more vulnerable. I’ve recently come to terms with the incontinence i’ve created and need to delve deeper into this and have gradually been increasing my interest and research into the world of disability pretenders. My partner surprisingly seems even more turned on by the prospect of my becoming increasingly dependent on him and is encouraging me to become a full-time wheelchair user. i don’t want to offend anyone on here but at least experimenting with this lifestyle sounds strangely appealing. I feel it would be so exciting to have to wheel myself around and struggle to change my diaper when wheelchair bound. The vulnerability and the dependence on others would potentially be very fulfilling to me. should I try this, please respond.

I agree Eddie. I had a few failed attempts before finally committing to becoming dual IC it certainly isn't for everyone. I don't regret it (yet anyway) but I have accepted that I now have no choice in the matter anyway. The best of luck and support to anyone who chooses this path.

Are you trying to lose continence or are you finding this an inconvenience? If you were wearing diapers through a desire to become incontinent then you need to decide if that's what you want to achieve. If you don't then it may be worth visiting a doctor to discuss your condition.

Yes that's pretty much how I experienced the process

When I began my untraining, two years ago, I used to initially make myself pee a little whenever I became aware of my bladder for any reason. I also sipped very regularly from a a glass of water. It didn't take long for me to learn to relax and let the pee come out whenever I felt the slightest amount of pressure in my bladder. Over time, probably close to 12 months there will be a noticeable shrinking in the bladder's capacity as its learning never to hold any pee and therefore naturally shrivels in size eventually making holding any volume almost impossible. It took me 18 months to get the stage where I was totally unaware of having wet myself if I remained in the same position for any length of time. I only now realise I'm peeing if I make a sudden upright movement from sitting when some residual urine will be released. I occasionally sit on a diaper with it open and see that every couple of seconds a few drops of urine are being released. I never now flood my diaper or have any daytime leaks. Its just a very slow gradual release and I eventually simply become aware that my diaper has become heavier and so its then time for a change.

From memory didn't take very long to be able to poop whilst walking, probably only 2 or 3 months but what took longer was being able to poop without any change in facial expression and to be able to carry on a conversation if necessary.

If I stand up or sit down too quickly I become aware of some poo being released these days.

That''s exactly the same for me

I agree I can't imagine how a condom would stay on for log without you having an erection. My chastity device certainly helps now

YEs you're right there its not so much doing it but being able to do so with no change to your facial expression which takes a while to learn I started being able to pee whilst walking within a couple of weeks of my journey to IC. Being able to poop whilst walking took a little longer

I usually order about 10 cases of 24 Tena Maxi Slips roughly every 6 weeks. I bulk buy barrier cream and wipes at the same time

Its Tena Maxi for me with plastic pants over the top. The mattress has two layers of protection, one plastic backed and one disposable which I cover with a strip of an old sheet which is far easier to change if I've leaked past my diaper and need to change the sheets in the middle of the night.

As long as you are happy

Are you happy with the urge incontinence? IF not, wearing diapers isn't going to help. You will need to focus on holding it in. If however you do want to become IC then you need to let go at the slightest hint of that urge, then it will happen more often and be the start of the path to diaper dependence.

You will get over the clean up issue. I too get a kick from seeing my penis look so small and useless

If that gives you content then that's great. I wasn't sure about becoming dual IC but so far have no regrets but it certainly is a commitment.

Strangely I don't actually mind the clean-up too much. As a sub I crave humiliation and its pretty humiliating having to clean yourself after pooping when its smeared all over your backside especially as it takes time and now I have virtually no bladder control by the time I'm fully cleaned and covered in barrier cream I'm dribbling before I can get the clean diaper on. I also wear a cock cage these days with the aim of shrinking my penis and hopefully losing the ability to get an erection. After 6 months of wearing most of the time it is now hard for me to maintain an erection to the state where I don't think I'd be able to achieve penetration. What I hope eventually is that when I have an orgasm it will just be a slow release of semen from my flacid penis. Also cleaning yourself when wearing a cock cage increases the time it takes to get clean! What is your aim with the cock cage?

Once I accepted that becoming urinary IC was going to be easier to achieve by becoming bowel IC as well my progress improved drastically. If you always have soft poo its far easier to become dually IC, if that's what you want, but its not for everyone!

I was briefly hospitalised when I was about 5 and I distinctly remember a boy who was quite a bit older than me being seriously told off by one of the nurses for wetting his bed. I remember being very surprised by that as I must have outgrown bedwetting when I was very young and can't remember doing it at all. I've often thought about that incident in the hospital and wondered if it was one of the triggers for my goal of achieving IC?

I can assure you that it can be done. I very rarely have a dry night now. However I think it will be very hard to become a nighttime bedwetter whilst retaining control during the day. Almost everyone on here similar to myself who has worked to achieve IC has lost control in the day before at night. In fact I had reached the stage where I was sometimes even unaware that I'd peed myself during the day before I'd had a single wet night. The main reasons one gets to wet at night is by gradually shrinking the bladder so it simply cannot hold as much urine as it used to. This is only really achieved by never letting it reach the capacity it originally had. i.e. whenever you feel the urge to pee simply relax and before long that urge will become more frequent as the bladder shrinks. The other physical factor is losing power of the sphincter. which basically doesn't any longer have the power to stop the bladder realising its contents. FYI It took me over 12 months to be bladder IC, c18 months to become a regular bedwetter and almost two years to lose bowel control as well as becoming a bedwetter almost every night. This isn't for everyone, but so far I have no regrets. If you do want to become a bedwetter then I think you will probably have to become diapered 24/7, but everyone is different. The best of luck with whatever course you chose to take.

Sometimes I feel bad on here talking about effectively having deliberately disabled myself when there are others with this condition through no fault of their one or desire to suffer from it

Are you happy being dual IC, I see that you mention its been caused by medication. Would you have wanted to become IC even if you still had complete control?