Would you apply for a job at Amazon?

[Alex Bridges]

Knowing that Amazon knows way more about your sexual proclivities than anyone except google and pornhub?

I’m thinking about applying for a corporate job there. I don’t know that it makes a difference to me. I’d assume they’d search you within their database the same way companies google everyone now. I figured if they don’t like what they find they’ll just ignore your application.

[WetDad]

No. 

They have a local reputation for being a burnout shop. Going in you should plan to stay there only a year or two. Never take yourself off the job market if you do go. 

[LaFleurSauvage]

My response to working at Amazon: Burn the place to the ground. Eat the rich, vive la revolucion!

[oznl]

I'd be cautious.  I have one acquaintance who left my corporation to become an Amazonian (web services).  I did catch up with him at an airport and he confirmed the "burn and churn" ethos.

[Alex Bridges]

I don’t work in IT or development. I haven’t been able to find out anything about the business side of the company. Everything I see online is about the operations side and the tech/web development side. 

I think I’ll apply just so see what happens. They probably won’t be willing to pay the equivalent of what I make in the Midwest anyway. A recruiter in NYC gave up on me when I quoted my price to move there. 200% raise just to match the cost of living difference. So staying in the Midwest until further notice.

[rusty pins]

Personally, no.  There are people who desperately need a job and would gladly take it.  That's why getting a good education helps get a better job even though you can still get burn out.  I'd also like to say that while I agree with most of the people who responded they would not work a burn out job at Amazon, how many of us would holler and get upset if our Amazon orders were late in arriving, especially Prime customers?  I already see people on the news complaining their Amazon orders are late.  Probably the same people who wait until December 23 to place their Christmas orders.

[Dubious]

Does it come with a free supply of diapers?
Cause from what I have read, they don't really get much breaks there

[Alex Bridges]

16 minutes ago, Dubious said:

Does it come with a free supply of diapers?
Cause from what I have read, they don't really get much breaks there

They do get an employee discount. I’m more interested in a very large pay raise and the chance to work for a company with a future again.

[WetDad]

In my comment above, I was talking about how Amazon treats their developers. Those at the top of the pay scale get burned out by design, just like the warehouse workers. 

[AwakenEvil]

On 12/21/2019 at 11:29 AM, WetDad said:

No. 

They have a local reputation for being a burnout shop. Going in you should plan to stay there only a year or two. Never take yourself off the job market if you do go. 

Tend to agree. I heard their warehouse folks are worked to death.

[Greybird]

I am way passed working age and always worked for myself, so probably not the right person to comment, but I hate the ethos. In the UK all our local high streets have closed because everybody shops online, they sanitise the shopping experience. I do all my research at Amazon and find where I can buy what I need then avoid the thing. Sorry Bezos but you don’t need my cash.

[littleTomás]

I think that most Amazon wouldn't check and/or wouldn't care. Look, everyone is hiding something in the closet and 99% of people would prefer to find diapers instead of drugs or sexual harassment. There are lots of things that would make an employee a negative asset in the office, but being ABDL isn't one of them. It's an open the door to peek, and then promptly close it after realizing that there is something that won't be an issue, but you'd rather not ask any questions about it beyond, "I found this odd thing. Will this be a problem?"

Returning to Amazon, burnout is a huge issue there. Here's a report that explains some of the reasons why: https://www.revealnews.org/article/behind-the-smiles/

[rusty pins]

Sign of the times, progress and technology.  I have to admit I find the convenience of being able to buy a gallon of milk, dozen eggs and my meat and vegetables in the grocery store where as my dad lived on a farm in the 1920's and had to milk the cow, gather eggs from the chickens and grow their own vegetables and store them in the root cellar all winter hoping they would have a big enough crop to last until next season.  I can just imagine his grandparents and what they had to go through.  Buying at the daily open air market because there was no refrigeration except ice boxes in some cases.

There comes a point though.  Convenience verses hard work.  I admit it's nice shopping at the grocery store but you do lose a bit.  Preservatives, mass production, chemicals added to make the chickens fat or the beef fat, all aimed at profit for the producers.  Quality may not be quite as good as raising it all yourself, but the trade off is the convenience, let alone the fact that people who live in town or suburbs can't raise and butcher their own beef and chickens or plant a sizable garden.

Convenience is one thing.  Being lazy and relying on technology is another.  I know, it's not all laziness when a parent is working 50+ hours a week, juggling 2 kids and after school activities and has to make dinner and keep up with the household.  Ordering groceries and other items on line when they have a break at work can be time saving.  I'm more concerned about the direction we are heading in both physically and mentally with available technology.  Some people do it because they can.  Sit at the computer and order gift cards instead of going out to a store and giving some personal thought to a gift. Whatever happened to, "It's the thought that matters".  People say, "I just order gift cards to give at Christmas and I'm done in 5 minutes with all my shopping, and they can use them to get what they want".  Very impersonal and it all goes towards, "They expect a gift!"  It makes me thing more of, "Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie" than, "Oh, this is so great!  I really love it!"  Where is the appreciation in picking out a nice gift in a store as you wander around getting ideas for people?

I myself will sometimes buy items from Amazon and on-line but that only happens when I can't find the same items in local stores.  I believe in supporting the local businesses for many reasons.  It provides them jobs and money to spend locally themselves.  These same people who work where you shop may also shop where you work providing you a job and income to support your own family.  Every year more local stores and chains are closing up because people do all their shopping on line.  It can hurt the local economy, but there is another way to look at it.  While this example may not apply to some of the diaper wearers here, lets say a part has broken on your toilet and you need to replace it.  You go to the local True Value or ACE Hardware to pick up a new part and then remember, "Oh crap!  They closed up 2 months ago for lack of business".  Now you either have to drive all around, out of town or wherever you can think might have the part or go home and order it on-line.  Order it on line and wait for 7 to 10 days for it to be shipped, or pay $36 shipping for overnight delivery.  Even worse when your toilet breaks 2 hours before your big dinner party!  Sears, K-Mart, Target and the local mall in my area have all closed up or have just a few stores left.  I have Walmart and a few others left in my area.  If you don't support the local businesses, they won't be there when you really need them. point of fact!

It's not all about the technology and convenience either.  It's how the young people are being raised and what they are learning and getting in the habit of doing because that's how their friends and coworkers do them.  I have treasured memories of going Christmas shopping with my mom as a kid, picking out a Lionel train car for my brother at the local Sears store or shopping in the evening at the Woolworth store or K-mart.  Out among the other shoppers, holiday music and Christmas decorations.  Even in my teens my family would always plan one Saturday or Sunday to drive over 120 miles one way to go to Chicago for a day of Christmas shopping.  Sometimes we would go downtown to the big stores like Marshall Fields and other times we would go to the big indoor Yorktown mall or the outdoor Oakbrook shopping center.  We made a fun day out of it, always planning on meeting somewhere in the mall at specific times so we could go off and compare notes and discuss with another family member what we may have seen in some of the stores and ask if so-and-so might like it for a gift.  We would end the day by having dinner either at a nice restaurant in the shopping center or on the way home.  We were tired, got home well after midnight and had to stuff the trunk full of our purchases and cover them up with a blanket so the next family member to put their own items in wouldn't accidentally see what gifts we may have bought for them.  People today might think, "What a dumb way to spend a day when all you have to do is go on line and place your orders!"  That's what I'm talking about!  Technology and habit has turned what could be a fun planned event that you looked forward to all season and time spent building life long memories with your family into a very impersonal chore of ordering gifts and gift cards on line just to be done with it.  The difference?  One is a fun family experience and tradition and time to spend together choosing thoughtful gifts for people who you think will appreciate them and the other is a job that has to be done because people expect some type of gift or money or something.  I have wonderful memories myself and as I get older looking back I'm glad for these memories of family outings.  I couldn't imagine looking back someday and only having memories of sitting at my computer ordering gift cards for Christmas.

Getting back on subject, is it any wonder these days why places like Amazon can have such high burn out levels and have employees practically worked to death?  What is better?  Applying to work at Amazon or applying to work at Target, Home Depot or other local stores where the pace might be a lot more relaxed and you can actually interact with people out shopping? 

[Diapered Jason]

Guys, you are taking this the wrong way. The problem with Amazon is their culture of safety, or lack thereof. I have no issue with working more than 8 hours a day and getting as much done in that time as possible, then figuring out how to do even more, but I take issue when a company condemns safety incident reporters instead of celebrating them. Efficiency is second to safety, doesn't matter if the package is on time if there is literally blood on it.

[Dubious]

I don't care how long I work, as long as the work get done, and my work is fine with that
Some days I work 12 hours, other days I work 4 hours, I get paid per hour 

[Penry]

Rusty Pins,

I hear you and I agree with a lot of your points.

However, things are not the same as they used to be. Shopping Malls are shutting down due to lack of business, big box stores are shutting down through out the United States due to lack of sales. Sears is an excellent example. I think Sears sold their Craftsman Tool Brand to Lowes, I could be wrong but I do know that Lowes is selling their Craftsman Brand of tools which used to be manufactured in the United States years ago but now it is being manufactured in China. What a shame! 

As for the question at hand.... "Would you apply for a job at Amazon"? My answer would be NO!  Amazon does not care or value their employee's. It is all about how quickly and accurately you can do the job at hand. There is no time for mistakes! They may offer you a decent wage and good benefits but is it worth it to deal with the stress on a daily basis to try and strive to  accomplish their daily goals that they put upon on you? You are dispensable (a throw away), if you can't  deal with it or meet their goals there is always someone else.

[Dubious]

I wouldn't want to have any job in USA, with how bad your system is
Shitty wages, long days and the possibility that you get fired on the spot 

In Norway its the opposite, we kinda have it too good, as you need a very good reason to fire people and they need to give 1 to 3 months notice, depending on how long you have worked there.
We only need 1 job and we have max 40 hours week by law (+overtime, but that is 200% pay)

[le Hollandais]

7 hours ago, Dubious said:

I wouldn't want to have any job in USA, with how bad your system is
Shitty wages, long days and the possibility that you get fired on the spot 

In Norway its the opposite, we kinda have it too good, as you need a very good reason to fire people and they need to give 1 to 3 months notice, depending on how long you have worked there.
We only need 1 job and we have max 40 hours week by law (+overtime, but that is 200% pay)

You're quite right. And that's the very reason I'm so thankful to have the job I do have. It could be defined as contract labor. I serve at my pleasure, and determine my own hours. The downside is that the job is cyclical; there are flush times, and lean times.  Amazon doesn't need the skills and knowlege I have, so gaining employment there is not even a consideration for me.

[rusty pins]

On 1/1/2020 at 1:07 AM, Penry said:

Rusty Pins,

I hear you and I agree with a lot of your points.

However, things are not the same as they used to be. Shopping Malls are shutting down due to lack of business, big box stores are shutting down through out the United States due to lack of sales. Sears is an excellent example. I think Sears sold their Craftsman Tool Brand to Lowes, I could be wrong but I do know that Lowes is selling their Craftsman Brand of tools which used to be manufactured in the United States years ago but now it is being manufactured in China. What a shame! 

And why are shopping malls and big box stores shutting down due to lack of business?  For the exact reasons I mentioned.  People sitting at the computer and buying gift cards or ordering everything on line instead of patronizing their local stores.  You don't shop at your local store and order everything on line, sure  No business and they close up!  But when you need that one item right away and can't wait for it to be shipped, you are out of luck because there are no more local stores you can run to quickly and buy what you need.  With the cost of shipping, chances are you can buy a lot of your items at the local store and have the costs about the same as if you ordered it, and you get it right away.  Is it really putting you out that much to get in your car, drive to the store and buy what you need rather that sit at home, pay shipping charges and wait a few days for it to be delivered to your door?

[Cruiser 03]

Amazon's policies towards both employees and customers is regrettable, I swore off Amazon 3 years ago when they screwed me out of $100.

I buy local or direct from other business without Amazon as a middle man .

As far as what they may or may not know about me ,it doesn't matter ,data only matters in how it's used for or against you , they do dumb things ,but so far I have not seen or heard of anyone getting harmed from Amazon or burning any potential employees ,the thing with a business like Amazon is they never know when a person of a certain skill set will be the exact person they need to continue or expand ,and that could be you ,but if they made you hate them ages ago ,you will not be the "key for the lock" they need .

At this point both Amazon and Wal-Mart are going heavy after the pharmacy and drug stores trying to push them out and take over those industries as well,so I imagine they will be needing more and more people as they fight to conquer another market for themselves to try and monopolize .

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[deewet]

When you have the best economy in the world it is hard to throw stones at it but some still do.  When the lower paid workers are making the most gains in wages, it is still not enough to keep some from down playing the business that is providing those wages.  When we as Americans have the most disposable income to spend on anything we choose, many still don't understand how fortunate we are.  

When we as a country accept the largest amount of immigrants annually no conditions set on existing wealth, it is hard to accept criticism from some in a part of the world that sets high standards on who can enter their country, based mainly on given amounts of wealth, or high levels of education. 

Granted we have blemishes as well, but overall, our moral and standard of living here in good old USA is still something to be proud of, our ability to excel based on hard work or better ideas than the existing, make us stand out in this world and I, having traveled most of the world for years, would never want to live anywhere than where I am today!

[Greybird]

20 hours ago, deewet said:

When you have the best economy in the world it is hard to throw stones at it but some still do.  When the lower paid workers are making the most gains in wages, it is still not enough to keep some from down playing the business that is providing those wages.  When we as Americans have the most disposable income to spend on anything we choose, many still don't understand how fortunate we are.  

When we as a country accept the largest amount of immigrants annually no conditions set on existing wealth, it is hard to accept criticism from some in a part of the world that sets high standards on who can enter their country, based mainly on given amounts of wealth, or high levels of education. 

Granted we have blemishes as well, but overall, our moral and standard of living here in good old USA is still something to be proud of, our ability to excel based on hard work or better ideas than the existing, make us stand out in this world and I, having traveled most of the world for years, would never want to live anywhere than where I am today!

You make some interesting points, but your country accepts immigrants without qualifications because a great part of your very successful economy relies on them. I will declare that I am not an America-file, I had some wonderful experiences there when I was young (on location in the film business) but recently I had experiences where people were so rude and angry that I have been put off returning again. So you may have a very successful economy but at what cost to your way of life. My last visit was when Obama was the chief and he put out an edict for the staff at the tourist venues (airports, hotels etc) to be better behaved toward the visitors. It is nice to hear that you are proud of your country and so you should be, but each country has it’s own identifiable values and they may not be money based. As the Beatles said ‘Money can’t buy me love’.  Please accept that I mean no offence to America, there are some great things and people to have come out of America, I am just not sure that Amazon is one of them. 

[Cruiser 03]

Our economy is floating on a sea of debt and over spending by the government ,and actual wages for most Americans have remained flat ,in fact most Americans are being paid less and less every year ,if minimum wage had of kept up with inflation from the 70's till today minimum wage would be just south of $34 per hour , there's is currently no place in America where a person earning minimum wage at a full time job ,can afford to rent a 1 bedroom apartment ,and in states who refused Medicaid expansion under the Affordable care act can forget paying for healthcare ,or even the option for going to a hospital ,there are some places that will require a 1 1/2 hour ambulance ride to get to the closest hospital , hospitals are closing and leaving rural and semi rural areas in huge numbers ,big cities aren't much better take the closing last year of Hannemen hospital in Philadelphia Pennsylvania ,very old established teaching hospital ,closed down virtually overnight with no warning for staff or students ,people in residency and New students who had been accepted and just moved to the area to start have been left with few options to finish there education and become M.D's . Don't believe the smoke billowing from the steaming pile of stale lies from the white house ,the economy has continued it's expansion course not because of trump ,in spite of his recklessness and sabotage the economy is doing the same as it was under Obama, except trump has added nearly 6 trillion to the deficit , Bush was said to have borrowed so much money we will never be able to come close to paying the principal , intrest on the debt is around 20 million dollars a day as of 2016 by the time trump is done it will be significantly more ,and that doesn't include his golf habit that so far has cost taxpayers over 1 billion dollars . America is a house of cards on the edge of glacier ,have you seen what's happening to glaciers ? The American experiment as the founding fathers called it ,is failing .

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[Dubious]

USA has one of the worst economies in the world..

[Nat]

Maybe if I wanted some extra money but I have kids so that makes it harder and I already have a part time job. Plus I hear they treat their employees bad. Just google it's horrific. 

On 12/23/2019 at 2:03 PM, rusty pins said:

Personally, no.  There are people who desperately need a job and would gladly take it.  That's why getting a good education helps get a better job even though you can still get burn out.  I'd also like to say that while I agree with most of the people who responded they would not work a burn out job at Amazon, how many of us would holler and get upset if our Amazon orders were late in arriving, especially Prime customers?  I already see people on the news complaining their Amazon orders are late.  Probably the same people who wait until December 23 to place their Christmas orders.

If it is free shipping, why complain? That is my motto. 

 

I know shipping isn't truly free and it's included in the price. 

On 12/31/2019 at 10:07 PM, Penry said:

Rusty Pins,

I hear you and I agree with a lot of your points.

However, things are not the same as they used to be. Shopping Malls are shutting down due to lack of business, big box stores are shutting down through out the United States due to lack of sales. Sears is an excellent example. I think Sears sold their Craftsman Tool Brand to Lowes, I could be wrong but I do know that Lowes is selling their Craftsman Brand of tools which used to be manufactured in the United States years ago but now it is being manufactured in China. What a shame! 

As for the question at hand.... "Would you apply for a job at Amazon"? My answer would be NO!  Amazon does not care or value their employee's. It is all about how quickly and accurately you can do the job at hand. There is no time for mistakes! They may offer you a decent wage and good benefits but is it worth it to deal with the stress on a daily basis to try and strive to  accomplish their daily goals that they put upon on you? You are dispensable (a throw away), if you can't  deal with it or meet their goals there is always someone else.

I would but in shopping malls if prices were not so expensive. It has come to a point now where I am starting to find regular stores at malls I could find anywhere else such as Ross or Barnes and Noble and Gamestop. Malls will even do sales now as a way to stay in business so that explains all the sale prices I am always seeing, they are competing with Amazon and other stores. Heck even some malls will now have a gym. The one near me has a Home Depot as an anchor and Target but lot of people don't even know the actual mall exists on the inside because it looks like a strip mall on the outside. The inside of the mall itself is dead but all the anchors are booming despite that is has a DMV inside the mall.