WBxx

Dear Mr oznl (cannot receive messages) Double Terry Vinyl Pant Concern After showing "Out of Stock" for months Babykins recently removed the Double Terry Diaper Pant from their offerings. Without the standalone diaper it’s hard to imagine they’ll continue offering your combination diaper/vinyl pant. Stock up now! WBxx

Diagnosis from afar … insufficient hydration. Glass of water before bed should resolve the issue.

My “how many times” is a calculated estimate. It’s the weight gain of my diaper overnight divided by the weight of a typical void during the day with the result rounded to the nearest whole number. The denominator (typical void) is clearly the weak link in the calculation.

Need to clarify my post. Should have said “6 or so ounces each time I use the bathroom”. Seeing as I frequent the bathroom every couple of two hours it’s roughly 3 ounces per hour which is more or less what my diaper gains during the night. So my urine output is now the same day and night, didn’t used to be that way!

During the day my void volume has dropped to the point it’s now only 6 or so ounces. Last night my diaper gained 28 plus ounces while I slept. So my guess is 3 or 4 times last night.

As much as feeling I’m into the sight of a heavy soaked cloth diaper hanging low in a plastic pant. So obvious, so shameful … love it!

I’m with you. According to literature all kids who wet the bed hate it. Not the case, far from hating, growing up part of me enjoyed my bedwetting and still does. It defines me, makes me special. I can’t picture life without it.

Your refrigerator runs 40 minutes per day? According to the web as well as my observation 8 hours per day is a more reasonable estimate. So, using your 130 watt draw – Refrigerator Kwh /day = (8 h / day) * (130 watts) * (kw / 1000 watts) = (8*130 /1000) (h / day) (watts) (kw /watts) = 1.04 kwh / day But no reason to play with formulas, a kill-a-watt meter measures Kwh. Checking my meter every 24 hours delta kWh for our new refrigerator is consistently .80 plus or minus .02. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huhL1lesWl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASAfmaKzslM

Yes, for what they do cable boxes use a ridiculously amount of energy. According to a kill-a-watt meter each of our cable boxes consumes .5 kilowatt hours of energy per day. The same meter says our new refrigerator is using only .8 kWh per day. In other words, our two cable boxes consume more energy than our refrigerator! EPA, where are you????

Wear (disposable) only at night always topped with a cloth pull-on diaper and a plastic pant. Cloth and plastic pants contain leaks but are primarily for childhood memories.

Bed-wetter’s high, know it well. The euphoria is addicting with classic withdrawal symptoms when denied. Welcome to the club.

In my younger days I too experimented with alcohol induced sleep wetting. I found a relatively small amount in the hour or so before bed was as likely to accomplish the goal as hours of heavy drinking. Eventually I settled upon relaxing in front of the TV or with a book late in the evening while slowly sipping on beer or wine till my bladder filled. That was it … I’d use the bathroom, drink a glass of water and go to bed. This often worked. Then, to my total amazement, after hundreds of successes with alcohol I started wetting the bed without when I had zero intention to do so!

Precisely why I purchase separate plastic pants and double terry diaper pants from Babykins. Plastic pant I hand wash and dry with terry diaper laundered at full heat like a bath towel. Even in this mode the plastic pant wears out long before the terry in which case I have to purchase only one part of the ensemble. Additionally, to my thinking terry pants are fairly benign from a distance where the combination is anything but. Hence I’m fairly comfortable drying the terry’s outside which I can't imagine doing with the combination.

If it were me when waking for the bathroom I’d do it bed and you just might become a non-drinking bed wetter (not wake for the bathroom). Matter of fact I did and I am.

As did mine

Comparing a Babykins Tuffy M to an old Comco Style #230 M, according to my measuring Babykins side seam is 10.25” vs Comco 11.75”. So you’re correct on side seam. Babykins and Comco crotches are virtually identical at 11”. And not sure if good or bad, Babykins leg openings are more front facing than Comco’s. Last observation, Comco’s vinyl might be slightly smoother / shinier, but they’re very close. The only Babykins plastic pant I’ve tried is Tuffy, don’t have any info on their other offerings. Cc: @Little BabyDoll Christine

In my opinion Babykins Tuffy Vinyl Adult Plastic Pants are every bit as good as Comco’s. Matter of fact Tuffy’s are the waterproof pant used in Babykins Terry Lined Waterproof Pants. Rather than @oznl's combination, for ease of laundering I wear a separate vinyl pant along with Babykins Double Layer Terry Pull-On Pant (currently out of stock) over a disposable at night to catch leaks. This combination works well for me. If still leaking you could always wear a second terry pant. As a side note, with disposables I’ve found folding the front coversheet back up under the padding forms a barrier that greatly reduces leakage at night. The same applies to plastic pants and cloth.

I’ve had a couple cystoscopies wide awake administered by an urologist I trust and respect. For me the contemplation was far worse than the reality. There was no pain. You’ll be fine.

No wall for me, standing with legs slightly apart I pull diaper snuggly into crotch moving legs together to hold in place. Then fasten bottom left tape making sure diaper is tight around leg, similarly for bottom right. Lastly, after folding front cover sheet back under padding (personal preference) pull diaper firmly up into crotch and fasten top tapes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4qt62yW4fg

Or how about if you’re wearing and the bed doesn’t get wet. Are you still a bed wetter? In my mind a bed wetter is someone (diapered or not) that wets in their sleep. On the other hand, I can’t deny someone that voluntarily wets the bed is not a bed wetter. It’s confusing. Hope one of our wordsmiths (@oznl @Little Sherri) weighs in on the subject.

Diaper box recycle outing is one of my fears. To avoid the possibility, rather than recycling, I cut up the boxes placing them in the trash for pickup. On the front end delivery outing is an unresolved fear. I, or my wife, try to be home when diapers are delivered. Occasionally that’s not possible with one or more cases of M4’s sitting near the front door in plain view till one of us returns. For me large “M4” boxes are obviously diapers. Don’t know what the neighbors think.

In the mid-seventies I stumbled upon a “diaper” letter in Playboy opening the “I’m not the only one” door. From there I subscribed to Fetish Times. Fetish times led me to DPF and Nugget magazine. Finally, via DPF roster and Nugget personals I began to exchange letters (PO Box) with likeminded folks of both sexes around the world. Some of my PO Box relationships went on for years expanding well beyond AB/DL.

Agree, simply wearing to bed will not cause you to turn into a bedwetter. But wearing and using night after night is a different story. No?

Amazon sales must be regional. I’m currently seeing $1.69 per M4 (4163) for bags (14) and $1.72 for cases (42) here in Georgia. Wasn’t long ago they were occasionally on sale for less than $1.00!

From a slightly different angle, hoping to relive childhood bedwetting seven plus years ago I undertook a program to accomplish such logging the results. Happy to report after years of drinking a glass of water before bed and doing all nighttime urination in a diaper I now do it in my sleep virtually every night. Progress was gradual and uneven. There were good weeks and discouraging weeks, good months and not so good months. But standing back and looking at annual percent sleep wet there is a steady upward trend. Now days falling asleep I’m confident my diaper will be heavy & wet when I wake. If per chance it isn’t no big deal. Odds are I'll wet in my sleep the following night, and the following, and ... The question remains, if so motivated could I reestablish nighttime control. I tell myself yes.