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It's not a simple either/or situation though. If you have a dirty nappy while out and about, you have to find somewhere to change it and that usually means a public restroom. Changing and cleaning up after a mess is more complicated than using the toilet, and probably more likely to bring you into contact with surfaces in the restroom. I'll put up with that and carry my disinfectant wipes etc, for the convenience and comfort of being able to go in my nappy whenever I feel like it.

What a fun day you've had.. I hope you get a special treat for making all those lovely big messes! I bet your mum is very proud of her little Linda and if I were her, I'd be having a laugh with my friends about how I'd spent the whole day changing you, and telling them how good you had been and what was in your nappies etc. TBH, seven changes is fine for a healthy little girl who relieves herself freely whenever she needs, no-one can blame you for doing what comes naturally. Nursie likes me to have at least two dirty nappies a day, but when I have three I often get a reward. If I go too long without one, she gives me something to help shift the blockage. When it all comes out, I might have a lot of messy nappies one after another, one really full one or anything in between. Your four averagely-full ones sounds like the best combination. Anyway, well done Linda!

I'll sit down whenever I want to, although sitting in a mess is the exception rather than the rule. Being almost toilet-free 24/7 means that I make a mess whenever I feel the need, rather than during specific playtimes. For example, I'll often have a messy nappy after breakfast while organising the day's work. When I think I've finished the BM, I'l squat, have a good push, and if nothing more happens it's time for a change and the mess will not have been sat in. OTOH, if the phone rings at that point and I have to park myself in front ot the laptop for a while, I'll happily sit in it and deal with the results when it's convenient afterwards. If a BM happens after lunch, it's usually out and about so I'll already be heading for the restroom while filling the nappy; defnitely wouldn't be hanging around long enough to need to sit in it. Even during playtime, sitting in a mess doesn't have any particular meaning to me. It's all fun - the relief of having an empty bottom, the freedom of doing it where and when I feel like it, even the clean-up can be quite enjoyable for being both refreshing and a tangible reminder of what it means to be in nappies. With up to an hour of messy comfort in the nappy every day, there's no great urge to spread it out any further!

When I started making the switch to being toilet-free, the biggest question was how to deal with regularly having a dirty nappy in my rather unpredictable and complex work environment. In private, at home or when alone or just with my partner, I do what incondl says - as soon as I feel the need I just squat and do it there and then without any hesitation or guilt; that's what the nappy is for and what a child would do. But at work or in public, the desire is to take advantage of that freedom as often as possible without any significant risk of being smelly in front of other people. As it turns out, using common-sense and not being too fanatical about using the nappy at every single urge, it's not that difficult. I developed simple strategies and trusted locations and routes in places where I'm most likely to need privacy to do something smelly. For example, I often do one after lunch, so from each of my most common dining locations, I know where to split from any group I'm with, avoiding any awkwardness or suspicion, to stop off somewhere secluded that is in easy, low-traffic reach of a bathroom if I do feel a need. Otherwise, I'll just carry on to wherever I was going, and deal with it later if required. That took a few months to master, after which I found it possible to do about 75% of all my BMs in the nappy. If the coast isn't clear or there's too much risk of an encounter, I'll wait if it's not urgent, or do it in the toilet if it is. Messy leaks, skin rashes and other difficulties can be avoided by good hygiene and attention to detail; using decent nappies, changing regularly, washing thoroughly etc. A few years later, it still hasn't got boring!

I go from 24/7 to about 12/7 depending on what's happening in my life, and whenever I have a nappy on it gets messed in whenever the need arises, often two, maybe three times a day. So I do get to enjoy plenty of messy ones, but used to miss out on some great opportunities to get much-needed relief in the nappy when I was concerned about what kind of mess was going to come out. I'd get this feeling of rather extreme pressure, accompanied by an urgency that suggested it was going to be very liquid or that I had an upset stomach, so I'd avoid doing it in the nappy for hygiene and comfort reasons. Then I'd rush to the toilet, pull down my nappy, and do a huge pile of thick, firm sausages that would have been completely OK and really satisfying to do in the nappy. The reason for the odd feeling and urgency was usually wind trapped behind the bulky load. I've eventually gotten used to the idea that if I haven't had a dirty nappy for a day or so, and I get that sudden, suspect, intense urge, it's best to just do it in the nappy and it will most likely be a lovely surprise and not something really yucky!

Suppose one didn't get any pleasure from wearing a nappy at all, nor had a medical need, but still thought it to be the best way to eliminate body waste. Some are saying this amounts to being a DL, others not. Personally I can't separate the pleasure side from the practical side 100% but I can get close, so I think not. Consider using a nappy for convenience when there is no ready access to a toilet. There might be alternatives - bushes, drain, bucket, plastic bottle - but none of these are desirable - so even if one didn't enjoy using the nappy it still might be the best option. I work under some arduous conditions and sometimes wear purely for convenience. I would perhaps rather not do so because of the risk of embarrassment if discovered, or the discomfort of wearing in hot weather, or whatever. So there is no pleasure to be gained here, nothing to put the 'L' in 'DL', but I still wear because it is the 'least unsatisfactory' option. Dry-suit divers who choose a nappy over the P-valve do not automatically become DLs, any more than people who stick postage stamps on envelopes become philatelists. This is the distinction I think is being identified here, rather than a distancing from the DL label.

Count me in this category too. Although there is certainly a fetish / pleasure aspect when sharing nappy play and usage with a loved one, that only accounts for a fraction of my nappy wearing. The rest of the time it is a comfortable and convenient wearable toilet that allows me to relieve myself of anything, anywhere, any time. The bathroom is useful too, not least for changing nappies, and using the potty or toilet can be relaxing and pleasant in itself. But of all the possible ways and places to wee and poo, nappies are the overall winner for sheer convenience, safety, comfort and discretion.

This interests me, and I keep promising to stock up with these and not getting around to it. My very first experiment with body-worn toileting, before getting my first pack of nappies, was actually a home-made fecal collector. While it's very liberating and satisfying to be able to just make a mess in a nappy, it seems like a neat and fun idea to do it in a pouch that can be changed easily and cleanly. I don't think they are really targeted at ambulatory people though, more for those in bed. I wondered if it would be secure and reliable enough that I could use it overnight and not have to empty it until morning. I hate falling asleep in a dirty nappy so if need a poo after bedtime I have to get up and change when I've finished. I wonder how the collector would fare inside a nappy, as I would need to be able to pass water (could use a catheter I suppose)?

When in 24/7 mode, much of my diaper-carrying is in work situations where a diaper bag that is recognisable as such would be inappropriate. I don't much like backpacks so I have tried various nondescript types of case or bag that I might carry anyway. A spare laptop case was one of my favourites, as in my line of work carrying two laptops wouldn't be remarkable. At the moment the weather is warm and I am in hybrids, so I can get away with a slightly smaller bag, at the moment a coolbag that looks like it might contain my lunch. Compressed into its slightly inadequate volume at the beginning of the day are three nappies, wet wipes, dry wipes, disinfectant wipes and disposal bags. The problem is that three changes only just get me through the working day, e.g. if I have a dirty one just after changing and need to change again, all my spare capacity is used up. Not a problem if there is a reserve not too far away (car, office, hotel room etc) but something about 30% larger would take a payload of four or five nappies which would be better. For travelling, I keep a maximum-size-carry-on style case ready to go, with day and night nappies, wipes, plastic pants, bed pads etc. It's too big to carry around but it will keep me going for a few days if I have to rush off somewhere. Perhaps I do need a conventional diaper bag, somewhere between the two extremes currently serving the purpose.

I want one too, or maybe two (his'n'hers). If you are prepared to take a step back in time, child and adult versions of the classic ceramic potty were of the same design differing only in size, so an adult one strictly meets your criteria. In my area at least, they can be found cheaply in many antiques / bygones shops. But the kind you suggest would not only be like a child's one, but also specifically unlike an adult one, which is harder. I have found though that some of the larger basic single-piece childrens' potties are large enough to sit on comfortably, especially the ones with a flat i.e. non-contoured seat area.

For discreet wear in revealing situations a decent hybrid is about the limit of thickness, my current preference being the Tena Slip Classic, plus a tummy control pantie / body scupt brief. This involves changing every few hours and avoiding floods towards the end of the wear period. Most of the time at work and play I wear a full-thickness plastic-backed nappy such as an M4 or Betterdry, with plastic pants and brief. If you know what you are looking for, you can see it through my jeans, but I don't think anybody really notices. It is about the minimum capacity that will allow more or less complete freedom - the ability to wet as often and as heavily as I want, and change when it's convenient, without having to think or worry about leaks. For extra capacity, e.g. when visiting places where it will be difficult to change, or if my liquid output is likely to be high, I put one or two, occasioanally three overlapping high capacity booster pads inside. This does increase the bulk quite visibly, especially when wet, so I only use them where necessary. Boosters at the back also reduce the available space in the nappy for doing a poo, although an extended-wear situation would also generally be one where I have to try and wait until I am back near changing facilities before doing it. If I have to poo I will sometimes slip the rear booster(s) out first. A similar level of padding is my preference for night, often using a top-tier nappy such as a Dry 24/7 with two boosters, safely covered by a fuller-fitting waterproof pant with a high waist such as the Gary. It's nice to be able to feel the nappy there at all times, as the comfort and security seem to improve sleep quality. An alternative that I have tried recently is the highest absorbency iD-Slip which has a generous wide crotch area and good capacity, with the very full-cut but low capacity Lille Classic plastic backed nappy over the top. This is about the only double configuration I use, as it combines the bulk of the iD-Slip which unfortunately has a fabric-style backing, and the lovely thick, full plastic backing of the Lille to give the extra protection against leaks and seepage. I cannot wear cloth due to my unpredictable work schedule. Travel at short notice, lots of overnight stops, never quite sure what is round the corner. I can carry an ample supply of disposables amongst my luggage, but managing laundry and maintaining availability of a stock of cloth nappies at all times would be a nightmare. The need to carry around wet and especially dirty nappies, even if I've used disposable liners to contain and remove the worst of the mess, makes it a non-starter. I have considered wearing cloth at night for the comfort factor and superior wicking performance, even experimented with bath towels a few times, but the logistics are still hard to handle. If I want to play at being a little girl and have a really thick nappy, I will fold towels to go over my disposable and wear oversize plastic pants That way I can enjoy the bulk while wetting and messing conveniently into the disposable.

Agreed - regular bowel movements passed freely in the nappy whenever a natural urge arises are the most satisfying and beneficial. I haven't found any tendency to un-train even after long periods of 24/7, probably because I still have to suppress a fair number of urges when in places where it's not acceptable to be smelly. The morning poo is the big one and it usually happens in the first clean nappy of the day. I don't like doing it in the wet overnight nappy, I prefer to get that off and have a shower as soon as possible. Breakfast follows, at which point the gastro-colic reflex does the rest and fills the nappy either during or soon after breakfast. There's often another movement after lunch, or later in the day, and this is the one I sometimes have to hold until the coast is clear, although if there is a window of opportunity I will always try to use the nappy there and then. Occasionally I do one in bed, when I am relaxed and perhaps full after an evening meal, when I pull my knees up and have a gentle push to see if anything happens. Sometimes my work timetable gets completely randomised, either by travelling between time zones or peculiar working hours. Then anything might happen, sometimes I will have three or four dirty nappies in a day, less often I will go a whole day without one and then have a very full one at whatever time my body clock considers to be morning. But this is all part of the routine here and I don't mind it at all.

This is an old thread but I've had exactly this experience, having to a do a big poo urgently in my nappy without deliberate provocation. The most memorable was a couple of years back, when I hadn't had a dirty nappy for a few days which is very unusual for me - I usually go twice a day, once at the very least. I was walking through the shopping mall after a meal at a restaurant when the blockage suddenly cleared. I didn't rate my chances of holding it, nor was there any need to do so as I had a good nappy (Dry 24/7?) and plastic pants on, so I

With a previous GF we did something similar, for a combination of pleasure and practical reasons. If we were both wearing, she would put the nappy on first and use it until only partially wet. Then I would change her into a new one and she would change me into the wet one. This meant that she was usually dry and never had a nappy on for more than a couple of hours, which was important to her for comfort. I was rarely completely dry as most of the nappies I was changed into had a little of her wet in, which I enjoyed. To keep this up meant twice as much changing and some tape-adjusting but that was part of the fun. As in the previous post if she wasn't wearing one herself, when she needed a wee I would untape the top front of my nappy and hold it open between her legs. Changing into her pooey ones was a much rarer pleasure, as she wasn't 100% keen on messing (understandably) although she could often do much nicer messes in the nappy than I could. The idea of smelling authentically like a pretty princess was fascinating.

I wonder whether by 'children of all ages' the ad actually means specifically those who are prone to accidents. I.e. it's not trying to imply that every child might be expected to wear them, but that they offer a solution for children who would be at risk of an accident even if they are older than typical potty-training age. Just thinking that the copy might not be worded very precisely. OTOH I remember overhearing a tantalising snippet of dialog on this subject when in my early teens and becoming very interested in nappies again. I only heard part of the sentence and spent a lot of time afterwards trying to rationalise and explain it away, as indeed it might have been entirely misheard. It was from a mother to one or both of her children (younger than me) about to embark on a long car journey, and seemed to be the question 'Do you want to put a nappy on?'. It was the voluntary aspect that caught my attention - she didn't insist or load the question, it was simply an offer. The implications of this suggestion coming from an adult whom I respected were spellbinding. Had my own mother asked the same or about wearing terry-lined waterproofs I expect I would have been unable even to form a reply.