My experience with stents

[ReggieRolf]

12 hours ago, n2diapers7 said:

皆さん、これがそれです。おそらく 20 個以上のステントを作ってから、完成するまでにたった 2 年しかかかりませんでしたが、編み込みラインは痛いのでまだ満足していません。

カーブや全体的な感想を教えてください。ありがとうございます 

My suggestion is that fishing line is the best. The reason is that it is thin and strong. I have been using my favorite stent for half a year now and it shows no signs of breaking.

[Loveable_guy]

I agree on the braided fishing line being stronger. I also agree it can be irritating. To limit the irritation I have been using a single line. That means I'm tying off on the inside of the stent two very secure knots. So far in several uses there are no problems to report and the irritation is almost gone for me.When tying my knots I'll use needle nose pliers to pull the knots tight. My line of choice is 10# rated from a company called Spiderwire, EZbraid. The package says maximum strength and smoothness. I found this product at Walmart.

[cathdiap]

Using a stent you instantly become totally urinary incontinent.

The consequences of total urinary incontinence cannot be ignored. It is always there. You have to wear diapers at all times, except when showering, taking a bath or swimming. Some activities are no longer possible (e.g. public sauna) or become very difficult (multi-day hikes, canoe trips, unexpected sleepovers). You will feel it mentally and physically all the time. Leaks, diaper bulges and low hanging butts are always in the back of your mind.

And no matter how long you have been incontinent, it will always feel unnatural and socially awkward to wet your pants. Whether you are in public, watching TV on the couch or sleeping in bed.

Yes, it is very exciting, that is why I developed my stent to experience that helpless, disabled feeling. But it has also made me realize that it is that same excitement that eventually wears me down. And then I am always glad that I can undo the situation. By simply pulling the stent out.

[cathdiap]

 

This is my homemade stent. A cheap, safe and non-migrating device to experience total urinary incontinence in seconds, for as long as I want. Hardly any feeling that it is there and yet complete diaper dependency Mind fuck to the extreme.

If you want to know whether permanent incontinence is something for you, stents might be a good way to find out. Believe me, it is a lot harder than you think.

This is me using a stent and wearing a diaper. 

[Loveable_guy]

On 8/12/2024 at 6:04 AM, cathdiap said:

Using a stent you instantly become totally urinary incontinent.

The consequences of total urinary incontinence cannot be ignored. It is always there. You have to wear diapers at all times, except when showering, taking a bath or swimming. Some activities are no longer possible (e.g. public sauna) or become very difficult (multi-day hikes, canoe trips, unexpected sleepovers). You will feel it mentally and physically all the time. Leaks, diaper bulges and low hanging butts are always in the back of your mind.

And no matter how long you have been incontinent, it will always feel unnatural and socially awkward to wet your pants. Whether you are in public, watching TV on the couch or sleeping in bed.

Yes, it is very exciting, that is why I developed my stent to experience that helpless, disabled feeling. But it has also made me realize that it is that same excitement that eventually wears me down. And then I am always glad that I can undo the situation. By simply pulling the stent out.

Your comments are dead on. Well said. I enjoy using my stent I also enjoy returning to normalcy when removing it.

[ReggieRolf]

How long would a stent need to be in for a person to remain incontinent when not using the stent?uwu

[cathdiap]

37 minutes ago, ReggieRolf said:

How long would a stent need to be in for a person to remain incontinent when not using the stent?uwu

That will never happen..... Sorry.

[n2diapers7]

Cathdiap could you post a link for dental floss that doesn't break? I've had no luck with the kinds I've tried. Especially when tieing knots.

Are those rings on the end for a retrieval tool and what tool do you use if so? 

On 8/10/2024 at 4:09 AM, ReggieRolf said:

My suggestion is that fishing line is the best. The reason is that it is thin and strong. I have been using my favorite stent for half a year now and it shows no signs of breaking.

What fishing line do you use?

[n2diapers7]

On 8/10/2024 at 7:54 AM, Loveable_guy said:

I agree on the braided fishing line being stronger. I also agree it can be irritating. To limit the irritation I have been using a single line. That means I'm tying off on the inside of the stent two very secure knots. So far in several uses there are no problems to report and the irritation is almost gone for me.When tying my knots I'll use needle nose pliers to pull the knots tight. My line of choice is 10# rated from a company called Spiderwire, EZbraid. The package says maximum strength and smoothness. I found this product at Walmart.

I appreciate the reply

Do the bends look correct on the stent? I think I should bend the next one more of a 90 in the bladder next time.

[cathdiap]

50 minutes ago, n2diapers7 said:

Cathdiap could you post a link for dental floss that doesn't break? I've had no luck with the kinds I've tried. Especially when tieing knots

https://www.jumbo.com/producten/jumbo-flossdraad-wax-met-mintsmaak-50m-159313STK

It's from a Dutch supermarket chain, I highly doubt if they deliver abroad.

50 minutes ago, n2diapers7 said:

Are those rings on the end for a retrieval tool and what tool do you use if so? 

No, I mainly use them to prevent the retrieval line from disappearing into the urethra. But  if that does happen, I can pull them out again with a crochet hook.

[dlnoir]

5 hours ago, ReggieRolf said:

How long would a stent need to be in for a person to remain incontinent when not using the stent?uwu

I have been using my stent just about 24/7 for the last 11 years and if I take it out things will return to normal within one or two days depending on how long I kept it in. Like Cathdiap said it will not render you incontinent if it did, I would be by now.

[cathdiap]

17 minutes ago, dlnoir said:

I have been using my stent just about 24/7 for the last 11 years

Wow, did you ever consider having the surgery in Mexico? It would make almost no difference. 

[dlnoir]

On 8/13/2024 at 7:36 PM, cathdiap said:

Wow, did you ever consider having the surgery in Mexico? It would make almost no difference. 

Needless to say I have been following Reddy`s topic and the stories from Bobby Brown with great interest, and at times it even felt appealing, but it is something wouldn’t do for multiple reasons. First of all, I wouldn’t be able to get the funds together to do so, it is quite expensive. From what I have been reading it kind of struck me it wasn’t exactly smooth sailing as strictures caused issues. If I understood it all correctly they needed a couple of surgical interventions to get the job properly done. Maybe they knew it needed more than one intervention, that I do not know. Traveling from the Netherlands is quite a trip might be a ten hour flight, doesn’t come cheap either.

The stent I use has the same effect there is absolutely no way I can go without diapers and it is insanely cheap. It took quite a while to get it just about right but now that I found the exact measurements it doesn’t bother me a bit. I adjusted the measurements of my stent in very small steps sometimes as little 3 millimeters (1/8”). Nowadays if it starts to hinder it is simply an indication that it needs cleaning, and these intervals vary. In the end if I were to spend 10 euro`s ($12) per year on materials to make stents it is a lot, as I only use two stents per year. Never had a UTI over the years, I cant see it as the retrieval line and the O-ring at the end of the retrieval line are hidden under my foreskin. Last but not least if I need to take it out for another reason than cleaning, one might call it cheating, it can be done knowing thing will be back to normal in one or two days at the most.

 

[Diapered Dave]

3 hours ago, dlnoir said:

Last but not least if I need to take it out for another reason than cleaning, one might call it cheating, it can be done knowing thing will be back to normal in one or two days at the most.

So during the one or two days to get back to normal, what are you experiencing? Dripping? Leaking? Urge incontinence? 

[Kissnofrog]

11 hours ago, dlnoir said:

Needless to say I have been following Reddy`s topic and the stories from Bobby Brown with great interest, and at times it even felt appealing, but it is something wouldn’t do for multiple reasons. First of all, I wouldn’t be able to get the funds together to do so, it is quite expensive. From what I have been reading it kind of struck me it wasn’t exactly smooth sailing as strictures caused issues. If I understood it all correctly they needed a couple of surgical interventions to get the job properly done. Maybe they knew it needed more than one intervention, that I do not know. Traveling from the Netherlands is quite a trip might be a ten hour flight, doesn’t come cheap either.

The stent I use has the same effect there is absolutely no way I can go without diapers and it is insanely cheap. It took quite a while to get it just about right but now that I found the exact measurements it doesn’t bother me a bit. I adjusted the measurements of my stent in very small steps sometimes as little 3 millimeters (1/8”). Nowadays if it starts to hinder it is simply an indication that it needs cleaning, and these intervals vary. In the end if I were to spend 10 euro`s ($12) per year on materials to make stents it is a lot, as I only use two stents per year. Never had a UTI over the years, I cant see it as the retrieval line and the O-ring at the end of the retrieval line are hidden under my foreskin. Last but not least if I need to take it out for another reason than cleaning, one might call it cheating, it can be done knowing thing will be back to normal in one or two days at the most.

 

Could someone post the link to that story that you are referring to? Thanks.

 

[dlnoir]

19 hours ago, Diapered Dave said:

So during the one or two days to get back to normal, what are you experiencing? Dripping? Leaking? Urge incontinence? 

No dripping or leaking I have to pee more often so I’ll stay diapered. In the beginning once I take the stent out I might have to pee like every 15 minutes, these intervals increase rapidly. In the beginning you could call it urge incontinence, I wouldn’t be able to make it to the toilet if the urge hits but like I said it doesn’t last long.

12 hours ago, Kissnofrog said:

Could someone post the link to that story that you are referring to? Thanks.

Here is the link:

https://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?/topic/89758-getting-surgery-in-mexico/

[cathdiap]

1 hour ago, Spargano said:

one thing I think is important is that it wasn’t draining for the first hour or so

This should not be the case. The top of the stent may be too high in the bladder or the inlet may be resting against the bladder wall, blocking the passage of urine until the bladder expands enough to detach from the inlet.

[foreverdl]

I recently got a few what I think are nice looking silicone coated latex Foley catheters, 16fr. I have never done it myself . I have been cashed a few times in a hospital . I have questions , I have the whole kits for all 3 I have. If  I do it myself and do it safe, can I leave it drain into my diaper for a time? and how long can I wear one? I really want to have time of unconditional pee. I do have times I cannot pee, and I do wear 24/7 I have for over 10 years. But it will not flow even when I am very very full. But I hate to do all of those pressure test etc. Any advice is ok.

[foreverdl]

6 minutes ago, Spargano said:

One of the reasons for the stent route is Making a closed environment so that bacteria won’t migrate into the tube and into the bladder. 
 

there is no safe “time limit” but even the most daring don’t do it for more than 3 days and do a host of cleanings to minimize risk.

 

before doing anything else, since you have never done it before would be to acclimate to the catheter. That might be difficult depending on your activity level. Do you have a bag to try letting it drain into the bag?

as I am sure you have read from mine and others big mistakes, take it slow and learn your way around the catheter, urethra and bladder. Be prepared for it to burn like crazy the first time you remove it. That will go away the more you do it. But the general consensus I have seen is it not a good idea to let it just drain into the diaper. 

Thanks that's why I am asking for experience . So I am reading you correct , that if I leave the open end in my diaper? I may get bacteria up in my bladder . I don't want that. The kits came with a few bags. So I may have to try it the safe way. 

Thanks for your help.

[Fakename4me]

And I will bring this up again for the European members out there.  Has anyone contacted MedPro medical and tried one of these?  Just wondering.  No, they will not ship to the USA.  And these come 10 to a box.

[cathdiap]

2 hours ago, Fakename4me said:

And I will bring this up again for the European members out there.  Has anyone contacted MedPro medical and tried one of these?  Just wondering.  No, they will not ship to the USA.  And these come 10 to a box.

This company is located in the Netherlands, actually only 30 miles from where I live.

So I just hung up after asking them if they sell directly to patients. Well, usually they don't, I would need a prescription from a urologist to have the stents brought to the hospital and then the urologist could place them.

I decided to lie and tell him that my urologist was not cooperating and refused to order and place that particular stent.

Then the conversation took a turn and the guy from Medpro said that in that case he would be willing to send me a box of those stents for free (including pusher) if they were still in stock. So he asked me the sizes of the stent I needed, and I said they were fr.14 and 5 cm.

He then asked me to send him an email with the details of the stents I needed so he could look for them tomorrow and get back to me if they were still available.

He also told me that these stents are no longer being produced because new regulations would make them too expensive. So the stents he will send me (if they are available) will probably be some of the last in stock.

I also asked him how long these stents can stay in the urethra, to which he replied a month.

I think I will send him the email, just out of curiosity how well the stent works and how these stents are built. Maybe it is reproducible.

Edit: I just sent the email

Edited August 20, 2024 by cathdiap
Follow up

[cathdiap]

2 hours ago, Spargano said:

It was at night that I had the issue with the migration out.

 

I think the angles of the bends in the stent could be quite a bit sharper and more radical (more bend in a shorter section).

The ends beyond the bends could also be a little shorter. This will make insertion easier even if the bends are sharper.

I would also reconsider using a one piece inner tube. The less moveable the tube through the prostate is, the more the ends of the stent stay hooked in the bladder and the bulbous urethra. 

[foreverdl]

7 hours ago, Fakename4me said:

And I will bring this up again for the European members out there.  Has anyone contacted MedPro medical and tried one of these?  Just wondering.  No, they will not ship to the USA.  And these come 10 to a box.

With the cut open parts ? it looks like it would hurt and maybe be uncomfortable .

[zraihusky]

I didn't think there are any doctors here, but I wanted to ask; what do you do to keep infections away? I've had many UTIs and I just got out of the hospital for kidney infection. I know my diabetes doesn't help, but I'm interested in finding out those that use the stents often, how you keep out infections. 

I was taking mine out each time for sexual activities, many times a week, but otherwise left in. So, it might be that I changed it too often, but wondering what you do. 

Thanks!

[cathdiap]

48 minutes ago, zraihusky said:

I didn't think there are any doctors here, but I wanted to ask; what do you do to keep infections away? I've had many UTIs and I just got out of the hospital for kidney infection. I know my diabetes doesn't help, but I'm interested in finding out those that use the stents often, how you keep out infections

I have never had a UTI with my homemade stents. And I am not exactly strict about hygiene. But then again, I am not diabetic. From what I have heard, diabetes increases the risk of inflammation in all parts of the body, including the urethra.

I have seen quite a few testimonials on YouTube of people reversing their diabetes type 2 with a meat-only diet. So maybe worth a try? I do it too and it works reallywell.