Dill_Pickle

True, there's nothing that beats feeling secure...but the GF likes it better if I don't wear one, so I don't wear to bed....not if she's around, and that's most nights of the year. Travelling alone is another matter. Dill Pickle

I wouldn't exactly accept Paypal as a reasonably private method of payment. I live n the US, and I have used money orders wtih both ABAIP and XP medical. Just figure out your order, get the total, and then put the money order in the mail. It's a little slower, but your stuff will get there. And sample packs are becoming common. Dill Pickle

I don't use diuretics -- because generally I don't need to. If I want to pee, I just start drinking water. Drain a quart bottle or so. Soon, about 40 minutes later, if I'm not dehydrated, nature calls. If I ignore it, my diaper gets wet. So what do you need the diuretics for? You aren't a fighter who needs to get his weight down for weigh-in...that process has killed a few wrestlers. Beer is generally a pretty good diuretic...so keep drinking water after you are done drinking beer, or chase your glass of beer with a glass or two of water...it will help you avoid a hangover to boot. Caffeinated soda or coffee is also a diuretic. However, I get withdrawal symptoms (headaches) from the caffeine, so I don't drink soda or coffee anymore. I have heard that the french word for dandelion root is "pissenlit", meaning "pee the bed". I have little doubt that this herb will achieve that. However, I'd start with a hypnosis tape and a protected bed and safely diapered body if that was my goal. A big part of making it happen is feeling safe about it, in addition to having enough water in your body. I found that out one night, I was alone in a hotel room on the road, diapered...in the morning, the diaper was soaked but I had no memory of that pee...and I generally try *not* to wet the bed for my GF's sake. Note: Negative side effects come from all diuretics. First, there's dehydration. Second, depending on the mechanism of action, you lose various minerals. If it's caffeine, eat a bannana to replace the potassium. Be very careful with drugs like dandelion root -- the problem being that since its an herb, it's not nearly as well studied for safety as regular drugs. Ephedra is the poster child for that, some people (including a pro baseball player) have died from it.

* Real * therapists are open-minded. I've seen four or five, mentioned my diapers, and moved on to other things, like serious depression/anxiety problems. You are at college, see if you can get to talk to a therapist through your college. The shrinks all have agreed that the main problem with your liking diapers is if it interferes with the rest of your life -- ruins your grades, keeps you out of romances, upsets or drives off friends, makes you depressed, that kind of thing. You can decide not to be depressed by it. You have seen how it's not too hard to keep it a secret. Accept that this need is a part of you, there is nothing wrong with indulging it -- there are a lot worse ways of getting your jollies -- just ask those supposedly celibate pedophilic catholic priests.... And yes, you are in a classic pattern. A box labeled "Laundry" in the back of your closet is cheaper, much cheaper than tossing them every time you get your fill of diapers. That way, when the need returns, you just get out what you put away. Dill Pickle

For us D/Ls, I think there is a "realism" aspect to it: Wearing a diaper is one thing, wearing a wet diaper is a little better. When the diaper is wet, you are committed...when it's dry, you aren't. Dill Pickle

I'd argue quite differently: Your diapers help you relax. Wear them, just like someone who HAD to wear them, concealing them and all, and if it comes up, just tell your new GF that your equipment isn't 100% and you NEED them. (Remember that car wreck you were in?) Wear one of those silent paper types, and it's your underwear. Make the evening about HER, not about you -- do something fun. I'll also agree, though, that if you get far enough for her to figure out you are wearing and say something, then things are moving entirely too fast, and you can conclude that you have a good chance of catching something nasty if you have sex with her. Someone you really want to be with will respect your boundaries. Me, I don't *have* to wear diapers for any physical reason, but being in diapers is a subtle mood booster, so I'd say I need to wear for psychological reasons. And yes, I kept my diapers out of site for quite awhile in my own relationship. Then, like everyone else, I found myself bingeing, so I told her about it. I'm still with her, she understands that nothing changed except that I was being honest with her. Dill Pickle.

You are aware WHY [That OTHER site] was shut down and Brian Cobb arrested...basically for making and selling kiddie porno to order.....not a safe place at all...don't even think about that stuff here. Anyway, enjoy yourself here....if you want to see why this place is adults only, just compare to the www.wetset.net forums.... Dill Pickle

I'll bite...I call myself a DL, but I am wondering if that's my way to take good care of myself...and hoping for someone else to do so, too.... Dill Pickle

How about the middle of a drought, very high danger of outdoor fire, and you watch as the driver ahead of you tosses his still burning cigarette butt out the window....(hell, anytime, since if you walk the road, the filters last for MONTHS, even in water) Dill Pickle

Umm, the problem with UPS delivering to P.O. boxes (not the same as a rented Private mailbox, which is *not* at the post office) is that the US Postal service is protecting it's monopoly. UPS stores accept packages from all carriers --- UPS, FedEx, USPS, you name it.... Also, the better suppliers *prefer* to use their favorite shipper...but can generally also use the USPS, if you ask ahead of time and are willing to pay a bit extra for the trouble. Dill Pickle

OK, time to stop whining and put my money where my mouth is: FAQ: So You WANT to Become Incontinent Dill Pickle, editor Note: In the interest of fairness, your editor admits to being a heterosexual male in an intimate relationship that does not involve diapers. He is purely DL, admits that AB'ness for myself is too scary, and hates to clean up poop sufficiently that he hardly ever does that anyplace besides a porcelain fixture. He is motivated perhaps a little too much by being helpful. I'm not going to get into DL's and such showing up on "real" incontinence support boards, and posting HNG-like comments such as "god I love this idea" to an audience that sounds, in general, angry and crazy. This behavior is just as unacceptable as coming to this board and calling us all perverts...or going on chat and asking A/S/L as the first question. An all-too-common request from youthful newbies is to become truly, medically, incontinent. I think the motivation is acceptance, both from themselves and others, of their diapered condition, since now they have a medical excuse. Wise people who wear diapers 24/7 for months and act incontinent but aren't "really" incontinent report feeling dishonest about their diapering. Interestingly, what happens when incontinence, by causes voluntary or involuntary, happens to ABDLs, is they lose their attraction to the trappings of incontinence. This has been discussed by several posters, for example the http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=2982> "New Temp Incontinence" thread for the voluntary case, and a recent post[todo:link], for the involuntary case. http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=3697>The Incontinence Wannabees thread is a discussion and analysis. http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=3198>Ice_Fisherman's thread "Make Me Incontinent" is a case where I think a good doctor might have induced incontinence, simply to relieve pain, probably with a foley catheter. more later... (last edit 12/15/06) Dill Pickle

TY, Cwick.... I repeat my suggestion: Can we write a (required reading) Wiki on the topic, so the stories (like the New Temp Incontinence thread) don't get lost? That's half the problem -- with almost *ANY* topic. Dill Pickle

pctrasher, I think patience is advised here....if your GF is going to like them on their own, you need to just keep making her enjoy what happens when she puts them on....or puts them on you... Eventually, she may transfer the positive associations.... Dill Pickle.

How about that secure feeling you get, that private little boost to the mood when you are wearing diapers all day, since you feel a little safer?

Rosie: I would take the road that there is nothing that SHOULD be done....not that has been suggested here... On the other hand, a little timer since a person last spoke might be nice...or maybe a "seems AFK" after an hour or two...nothing to change the operation of the chat, but something to give a bit of information. My $.02! Dill Pickle

HNGs on incon boards ARE a problem...but many of us have come here because we enjoy the boundaries that DailyD keeps that helps keep down the HNGs doing crap like that. We don't like it here, either, and the adult requirement tends to keep those types of people out of here. It's not germane here, we are here PRECISELY because we are aware that the incons largely want to be left to themselves. Eventually some incons come over here. I'm sorry the incon boards don't keep better boundaries, but I am not willing to be held responsible for people that I suspect DailyD would eject within short order if they ever got here. I was suggesting that DailyD keep some kind of a permanent record of these discussions such as a WIKI, because they come up again and again, and, frankly, bringing the noobs up to speed on it again and again is BORING, a waste of my time even to read when someone else is doing it. I'm much more interested in intelligent, well-informed questions. (Nope, there isn't any excuse, and I doubt it would be tolerated here....I may like my padding, but above all I am a human being...not a perverted sex machine -- and hope that the incon boards make some real consequences flow, like visits from the police, in real life, to the hooligans writing that.) PS: HNG = "Horny Net Geek" a pejorative for a teenager who opens the conversation with "wanna fuck" or some such other direct comment, in an attempt to perform a drive-by titillation/masturbation. a/s/l is a sure sign of one.

Jenniebear: By and large, I'll agree that some are afraid, and lurk...and others get lost in PM'ing. I think the real issue of why is because there is a fear that the lurker isn't "just lurking", but is in fact spying on us. We all need to remember that this board is basically public, here for anyone to see....and behave accordingly. Any cops will get bored to tears, as we drive out the a/s/l'ing underage HNGs. I am in favor, however, of requiring some kind of a "Yes, I'm really here" every 8 hours or so on the chat. This would just be a little box that pops up, and must be clicked "OK" on before the chat data refreshes. This accomplishes removing non-live person entities from the chat. Dill Pickle.

I've gone through a couple of scrapes with a car...and consistently have no memory of how these scrapes unfolded past a certain point, until the scrape is over. Once, a little kid ran out of a group of people on the sidewalk and into the path of my car. The next think I remember, the motor is coughing because I have stopped and completely forgotten to put the clutch in, and the child's father is thanking me. More recently, I slid off a road and the truck landed backwards on it's side in a ditch. I have memory of the wheels starting to slip, apologizing to my GF who was with me, then hanging upside down in my seatbelt. So this sort of memory loss is normal. As for what you did wrong? It's likely that you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, which is to say nothing at all...a stroke of bad luck, a dis-aster, meaning bad stars, literally. You may need some time to mourn Becky...I mourned my ex, who I had simply left behind, for about a year...the internal healing has taken me more than a decade...

I got another idea: Can we have DailyDi let us do the "wannabe" topic as a wiki? (And agree that the standard response to a wannabe post is to point to the wiki?) That should allow for a much more interesting, if much slower, conversation. Dill Pickle.

------------------------------------------------------------ I didn't mark his crotch area with a red pen, this is how it appears. At first I thought it could be excessive stage perspiration, but his upper body seems to be surprisingly dry for such a 'lively performer' Then I thought it might be just the heavy dye patches you often get on denims. But I'm still not sure it's what they've heavily hinted at in the caption. What do you think? D lly In my estimate, he's wearing some padding in front, but it's gotten a little too much pee in it...

I'll go back to the fundamentals here: WHY do people want to become incontinent? I think there's a bunch of different reasons: 1) To get a rise out of the rest of us....look at the responses to icefisherman to see how little effort it is to stir up a tempest in a teapot... 2) For self-acceptance...turtlepins has a point...the lie is hard on some folks.. 3) 17 year old wannabees, that really haven't thought it through...see "New Temporary incontinence" thread... (or maybe some of us are a bit older, but haven't figured it out) 4) Occasionally, because the current continence situation is completely miserable, as icefisherman said his situation was....I support him, and would hope his doctor would support him, if only to relieve the pain. 5) For external acceptance...if I HAVE to wear, my friends won't think I'm so wierd...I mean I'd expect to get fired if they knew the sorts of feelings I have when I'm wearing diapers...if they ever find out, I'll say it's because I *HAVE* to... 5b) For the external attention available if you "have to" wear diapers...I mean I think many AB's are in it because of the attention they get...and if you are too rigid to play at it that way, maybe you think you will get it if you "have to" wear diapers... And yeah, I'm bored by the wannabee whines myself..."new temp incontinence" and icefisherman's thread are required reading before someone can ask an interesting question. Dill Pickle.

OK, here's mine: At a rummage sale, buying a half-pack of diapers... "Could you put that in a bag for me?" "Oh, of course!" "thanks" turns out the diapers were a bit too small, used them for stuffers...I didn't pay for it, so I didn't get it, no problem....

You are probably wrong only about the trains you were allowed on...you didn't see the ones the poor used....

That's working too hard: Puppy: Made by two dogs stuck together!

Well, my pair of Depends crinkled once, and I got asked about the noise. I didn't answer, but after that I stuck a plastic grocery bag in my pocket for a few weeks. It crinkles too! Dill Pickle