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8 minutes ago, Don Incognito said:
I've just learned of the existence of a store in Tokyo called Pop Life Department M's which sells ABDL diapers, though it looks like it's just selling individual diapers at ridiculous prices:
Ah, a sex shop in down town Tokyo in the Akihabara district...... Also known for as a district selling electronics (if you need a non sex excuse to get into that area of town).
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23 minutes ago, Tom Personal said:
Hi all
As you may know, I am looking for a new daily driver as Australia's only distributor will no longer be selling Bambino.
I have been wearing the large Bambino Magnifico / Ultra stretch with an Incontrol Booster pad (the combination takes around 4 or 5 hours). At night, I wear Bambino Bloomeez and two boosters without leaks.
However, these will most likely not be available in Australia soon as Bambino does not ship here and uses only one Distributor.
How does the absorbency add up to other brands? I find how (not the amount they absorb) it is comfortable and doesn't break, clump up, or leave my skin clammy.
I also need to find something cost-effective as I am having some issues with a prescriber concerned about the government won't fund plastic backed (even though the government is satisfied with the medical evidence on why I can't use medical grade cloth backed with 98% are cloth backed, which I am medically allergic to so I will need to come up with evidence with the prescribing therapist.
I need four tapes for ease and reliability.
Day 5000ml+ as well as wetness indicator (so I know when to change as new to having 0 control)
Night 7000ml+ as I have nocturnal as well as severe sleep apnea and on the machine, and I output a lot
Options are
Rearz (which might be declined by the government as Rearz may not provide the required documentation on the form). We are still waiting to hear back from Rearz Australia as they need to hear back from their US counterparts.
Incontrol BeDry
Tykables
Crinklz (which I have seen people on here have issues with)
Trest
Northshore MegaMax (which Northshore Adam says might not fit my capacity needs esp at night)
Many thanks@Tom Personal: I normally use cloth diapers, which started at night due to the high volume I can produce at night....
However, I have both Tykables (blue) Camies and Northshore MegaMax (white, China version, before they started producing the US version). When wearing during the day I only lightly leak, and so prefer to be able to use the toilet when needed. I find cloth works best for me. When on vacation, I've switched to prefering Tykables over Northshore because the Tykables that I use have a "Velcro" style tape that I can easily undo and redo during the day. While the MegaMax can work out, it is designed to where it is expected to be used and disposed of instead of taking the strong tapes off and getting to the toilet during the day. At night, I can have leaks in either prior to hitting their capacity. The Tykables with their (2L) stuffer inserted have been good at night. I suspect a similar capacity diaper doubler usage in the MegaMax would work similarly for me. And since I typically sleep through the night events, either diaper would work for me.
Prior to the MegaMax (and the ~5L Tykables), I was finding disposable diapers not reliable for the capacity I needed at night.
Best wishes on finding what works for you.
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2 hours ago, Little Sherri said:
I was reminded of this thread this week when an older colleague said that he now gets up five or six times a night to use the bathroom, and he's constantly exhausted as a result. The real solution to that issue is for him to go get a TURP procedure, basically Roto Rootering his prostate so that it doesn't obstruct his urethra, causing him to perpetually empty only the top 1/3 of his bladder when he goes pee. However, he said "That can lead to incontinence, and if that happens, then I want MAID, asap..."
MAID being medical assistance in dying, which is legal, and free, in Canada, although I don't know if they'd green-light assisted death for leaky plumbing alone.
Ironically, the other solution, if the idea of a TURP terrifies you, would be... to wear diapers to bed. At least you wouldn't have to get up several times a night. And, if my experience is any guide, what tends to happen is, after a while, you barely wake up when you need to pee, and then you fall asleep while doing it... and then, after a while, you don't wake up. The fatigue problem is therefore solved.
If only we could tell people these things...
@Little Sherri: There are better options than the old TURP if one just needs to open up things from BPH. I've had Rezūm procedure as an example.
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2 minutes ago, DailyDi said:
The software does not show us (admins) who reacted to the posts.
@DailyDi Then you need to buy your 2024 or 2025 badge. <GRIN> (Or at least flag you account as having the badge).
3 minutes ago, Reddy said:There were two laughing on this page but one was removed and one changed to confused
@Reddy The two confused responses I currently see on this page is the same person that I've seen use it a number of times in this thread - fizzle.....
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35 minutes ago, foreverdl said:
If I could I would have the animal sending the stupid laughing removed from this Site forever your as good as my behind and you do know what that is and what comes out is also you..........;.
I do see who posts the reactions to posts. I'm guessing it is tied to those who have "paid" to buy a year badge get to see that info..... There is one specific user that has been using a "confused" reaction to a lot of posts.... I haven't gone back to find where the laughing reaction was left....
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15 hours ago, Little Sherri said:
Maybe I should look at TSA prescreening - although I travel a fair bit, I haven't investigated that option because I'd have to get it for my entire family, to take advantage of it when we travel together. But maybe it's time.
@Little Sherri: Another option you should look into insteadof TSA pre-check, is the paperwork US and Canadians can get for a "fast" pass for crossing the US / CA boarder by car. This option also gets you a "secure traveler number", which I believe is as good as TSA pre-check for the airports. That option I believe is the least expensive option to get a pre-screen ID.... And from memory it is $50 USD for US citizens and $50 CAD for CA citizens. You may need to go to an office near one of the US / CA boarder crossings as part of the screening process...
I've thought about this option, but haven't done it yet.
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5 hours ago, Little Sherri said:
How did that go?
Maybe I should look at TSA prescreening - although I travel a fair bit, I haven't investigated that option because I'd have to get it for my entire family, to take advantage of it when we travel together. But maybe it's time. I was lucky in that my flight did not coincide with that of the colleague I was traveling with, so we went through security at different times, but if I had a coworker standing behind me, I would have panicked. I guess if that happens, I should request the private room.
I wonder if I should have just said to the guy, "I'm wearing a brief" - something like that? Has anyone tried that? And then, if they still seem confused, invoke the "d" word? "It's a diaper, not a satchel filled with explosives and cocaine..."
Although saying the words "explosives and cocaine" at the TSA checkpoint would probably have me fully-disrobed in the private room, and talking to three officers, and missing my flight. They are not known for their sense of humour.
Lets just say by the end of the "review" they knew I was wearing cloth diapers... Yes, the belt was unbuckled... not fully disrobed.....
As to letting them know, TSA allows you to go to their web site and download a blue card you can fill in. However you typically don't get to show it to them till after they have run the scan (and want to do a secondary screening).....
Another option is to call them in advance and make arrangements (for special screening assistance).
I agree that you should NOT joke with airport security. Pre 9/11, I've heard a story from the drum section about a screening event when someone joked the wrong way..... This is back when folks could go through security and meet people either coming off or getting on the plane at the airport lounge / waiting area. I believe more than one drum had to be disassembled in order to get through security that time.... The school band was known (at times) to have a contingent show up to welcome the team back home.... (or to send the team off...)
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8 hours ago, Little Sherri said:
I had another diaper dream last night, again, a weird one. Although I guess hoping for a "normal" diaper dream would be chasing a unicorn...
I was at work, in head office, with some colleagues, and we were trying to figure out how to fix a really strange door - it had two sides to it that met when it was closed, but one was pretty much the width of a normal door, and one was maybe six inches wide, and they met at an angle and then were held shut by being wedged that way - it's like the hinges were spring-loaded and allowed each side to slide a little in towards the frame, causing the meeting edges of the two sides to be held together by the lateral force supplied by the springs. This is what engineers dream about, apparently. What we do at work has nothing to do with doors - if a door in the office broke, we would hire someone to fix it, not commission a strike team internally. But there we were.
So, I was leading the charge, troubleshooting why the door wouldn't stay closed, which probably made sense, since my subconscious designed it. I was walking around, looking at it, trying to push it this way and that, thinking that maybe the springs were unbalanced, and I was walking back and forth to a bench that had some tools on it, although I don't recall wielding any tools. I realized as I was talking to this group, a coupe of whom I recognized, that I had a pacifier in my mouth, so I took it out, for greater emphasis, and then in the dream, it occurred to me that I had apparently come to work with a pacifier in my mouth, so I cupped it in my hand, even though I had just been addressing the team by talking around it. Then, I realized that I hadn't put a belt on, so and the top quarter or so of my diaper (a white one, unrecognizable) was also showing, so I hitched up my jeans and tugged down my shirt, all without breaking stride on theorizing as to what was wrong with the door. One of my employees asked me a question, and I started to address it, and then I woke up. That's all I remember.
Less of a dream, and more of a low-grade nightmare, was my experience going through a body scanner today on my way back home. This was a small regional airport in Canada, which in itself is ironic, because I had flown out through a gigantic airport, and I did not have to go through the scanner on my way out. I figured that the returning airport probably didn't even have them. But they did.
I've long made my peace with knowing that the TSA people will know I have "something" bulky on under my jeans when I fly. I went from carrying a diaper in my laptop bag (that the x-ray tech must have seen, anyway), while wearing boxers through security, and then diapering up once I was in the terminal, to wearing pull-ups through the scanner, once I had thrown away all my boxers. Then, I had an epiphany that "I pee myself" underpants are "I pee myself" underpants, and pull-up or diaper, the difference probably didn't amount to a hill of beans, to the agent, just trying to get through their day amidst a sea of human misery.
So, I started just wearing whatever diaper I wanted to - ideally not something fanciful, in case I ended up having to actually show it to someone, but, a real diaper - what you'd want to be wearing if you were going to be sealed into an aluminum tube for a few hours, and you're used to peeing absentmindedly three or four times an hour.
My experiences have run the gamut; most common would be just not having to get scanned - I often get waved through the metal detector instead. Second to that is, scanned, and waved on. Third would be scanned, and then getting a cursory pat-down, and then I'm on my way. Once, a lady asked her supervisor what to do, and he said "He's fine."
One thing that all this had in common is that the machine's output was either invisible, or, it was an amorphous stick-figure with a red circle around "the area." This was implemented after early versions of the machines essentially let the operators look through people's clothing, which was unappreciated by the travelling public.
Well, I know where those vintage machines went - to regional airports in Northern Canada. I was this close to being waved through the metal detector again - there was a guy in front of me that they kept having to re-scan. I should have known that this would not bode well for me. After making the guy do yoga in there for three scans, it was my turn, and of course, it alerted to the presence of some inexplicable bulk down under. I was scanned again, with the same result. I was asked if my pockets were empty, to which I answered in the affirmative, but at least that question gave me the idea that maybe they were getting some kind of general alert, rather than specific areas of concern. I was wrong in that supposition.
I was then asked to exit the magic box, and the guy, a South Asian man who looked to be in his late 20's, offered me an opportunity to take the screening over to somewhere private, which I maybe should have taken him up on, but my operating theory has been that things go faster in public. Not this time.
First, while being asked to stand spreadeagle for the pat-down, I was able to see the output on the machine - as were, by the way, everyone standing around me. What it showed was a hollow outline of a figure, front and back, wearing a bright yellow diaper. The sides were not represented, but if I asked a kid to draw a picture of a person wearing a yellow diaper, viewed from the front and the back, what I was looking at was what they would have drawn.
Next, the dude proceeded to completely feel me up with the back of his hands - he asked me to spread my legs, and then he lifted my diaper, seemed to be weighing it, and then he let it settle back into place, before lifting it again, both times from the front. Then, he did the same thing from behind. THEN, he pulled my t-shirt out of my jeans (no belt on, my belt was on the tray on the conveyer for the x-ray machine), and, voila, fine people of Nowhereland, Canada, much like in the dream described above, the top 10% or so of my diaper was visible, briefly, in a very well-lit terminal, with people milling all around me. Then, the guy got it, and stepped back, and I thought, phew, this is over... but then he got the magic wand and put a swab on it and swabbed my hands, then he said "Lift the front of your shirt...", which, somewhat incredulous, I did, then he swabbed the waistband of my jeans, and, a bit of the visible portion of my diaper, presumably for traces of explosives, or drugs.
He ran the swab through the machine, which of course shrugged, and then he told me I could go. While seven people waited to be next, and watched. If any of them were wearing a diaper, I'd imagine they might have decided to just stay home, after that.
Like I have said before, and to quote a good friend, when you play silly games, you get silly prizes, but on behalf of my friends here who actually are incontinent, and who have not chosen this life for themselves, I was pissed.
@Little Sherri: I was going to comment that your reference to the color red was wrong. I've see the yellow screen in that area in past scans. Since my main airport is a major (US) one (and supports international travel) and I don't have TSA pre-check, so except for one time early on when they were randomly giving away a "pre-check" type screening (printed on your boarding pass), I've basically been through the nude-o-scanner every trip since they have been in place at the airport. And I typically get the type of screening you had this time. And yes, they will add the explosive detection with the wipe down. Add in that my bottle of baby powder will get pulled for screening, I'm holding up both the carry on screening till after they get me patted down and then can proceed with that secondary (explosive) screening. I've only had one time (early on) where they "invited" (i.e. required) me to the private secondary screening room.... OK, I'm wearing cloth and not disposable, and wear thick enough that I am comfortable if I were to take a long enough nap on the airplane.... I don't like it, but I figure the time i take up is their problem not mine....
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5 hours ago, flowerdaddy22 said:
NGL your prognosis does sound foreboding... But of all possible handicaps, bedwetting is one I could easily live with - of course I'm biased here I guess.
It is interesting though that even strong 'learned' control like this can be broken down so easily by just letting the brain know that it's actually okay to not only ever let go on a toilet. I guess in those cases it must be a mostly mental thing. Then again, I'm one of those people who've been carrying a fascination for diapers inside them ever since they got potty trained as a child, so it would make some sense for control to never become as integral a part of muscle memory as it seems to do for others.
Your guess is spot on, a trip to the bathroom is indeed the last thing in the evening and first thing in the morning for me. But so is it for pretty much everyone else in this house, I figured it's normal. Who would want to go to sleep with a half-full bladder just to wake up and have to pee in the middle of the night?
I do intend to hold off on it at least till I've got my life sorted and a place of my own where I can do as I please, but if things were to go south sooner so be it!
@flowerdaddy22: One of my theories, and only a theory -- with no real data to back it up -- is that some of us became potty trained at night by (a) learning to hold, hold, hold, (b) having a bladder that grew to a (significantly) larger holding capacity then average, (c) in part due to lack of (significantly) reduced kidney production overnight.... I believe I never learned to wake up because I was wetting myself -- it took something else (like finally cooling off or some other disturbance) to wake me. I have a theory that this combination or something similar, along with how I (at times don't) sense things are the combination that allowed me to quickly break. Not sure how much overlaps with your situation or the rare few others that have broken easier than most..... But I believe there is something there, and possibly in the genes, that contributes to more quickly reverting night time control. While I believe part of this can be between the ears (i.e. a mental thing), I think there are also some physical aspects that decrease the impact of the mental control side - like suppressing inputs or association of inputs that most folks connect during potty training, but not everyone.
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2 hours ago, flowerdaddy22 said:
Sooo, I was sort of convinced I had a bladder of the iron-clad type, but apparently, in my case unconscious bedwetting is a lot easier to achieve than I expected - too easy for my own good in fact...
We've had a lot of posts here about some people getting diaper-dependent at night after just a couple of weeks, and others taking years to get back to truly wetting in their sleep in some cases. Due to my decent daytime control (I mean, I can easily hold it till it gets so uncomfortable that I feel like my bladder will burst, still without risking loosing control and peeing myself every moment; and if I do hold it in for this long I can pretty much soak a Tena Maxi in one go, which suggests over a liter in bladder capacity at the very least) I reasonably considered myself to be in the latter category.
So after recently introducing myself as a member of the community, I thought recounting the true story of how I was disabused of this notion would make for a good first post
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In a period of reliable and comparatively easy access to cheap diapers (only Tena Slip, but better than nothing, and they fit me really well) last year in July, I decided to take the plunge and try diapers to bed every day for a month to see what that would be like in the worst summer heat - just to gage whether that'd be something I'd consider on a more permanent basis in the future. I don't plan on going 24/7 any time soon at the moment, but regular nighttime wearing might be nice. So I devised a way to sneak heavy trash bags full of wet diapers out of the house to the trash can without the rest of my family noticing, and gave it a shot - I really liked it! Of course I was just wetting purposely whenever I had to go, but even still, there was something magical to the ritual of putting on a diaper before going to sleep, and taking off the wet one in the morning. It definitely helped me relax and take the edge off the day, not to mention not having to get up to pee. I genuinely felt like I was getting better sleep too (I say that now, years ago, when I first tried diapers, I could barely fall asleep with a diaper on, lol).
So far, nothing remarkable, I really enjoyed it, but stopped again after a month because I normally only wear twice a week, and going through one diaper every day makes cost add up quite quickly. Plus, buying them meant getting up way before anyone else in the house to sneak out unnoticed, which is kinda painful to do as a night owl, so having to do it every five weeks kind of negated the improved sleep.
Anyway, with this enjoyable experience in mind, when in November I was going through a phase of feeling completely overwhelmed by life in general, the idea of another month of night time diapers to give my brain some time out was too appealing to resist. So I dove right back into my previous ritual! I would put on a diaper when going to bed, then pee in it whatever little of my evening tea made it's way to my bladder while reading diaper stories - perfect way to conclude a stressful day! I even got a lot better at casually peeing laying on my back. Whenever I woke up in the night with the urge to pee, I remembered "right, I'm wearing a diaper", and made sure to relax slowly so as not to flood the Tena to the point of leaking.
I think you get an idea of where this is going XD
When December, and with it the end of this second nighttime diaper month rolled around, I had really come to enjoy the comfort diapers overnight offered, and thought: "actually, why stop here? I might as well go at least another month and see if I could keep this up long term!". I had stocked enough diapers and was getting a hang of my routines for acquiring new ones as well as sneaking out the trash. It was great!
But I'm sure you know what happened next - some time into this second consecutive month, sometimes when I woke up in the morning to pee I couldn't shake the feeling that my diaper was somehow slightly wetter than I'd made it before falling asleep in the evening. But I shrugged it off, thinking I must've partially woken up and peed as usual, but just didn't remember it.
Then, one morning I woke up early by my diaper leaking. And I couldn't remember at all when I had peed in it so much. I knew it. This was a warning shot. My control might actually slip if I continued this for much longer!
Now thinking about it, this wouldn't come as much of a surprise seeing how bedwetting seems to have riddled some in my family to an extent that almost suggests a hereditary streak. I myself used to wake up with a wet patch on the front of my pajamas about once a week from age 7 to 14, if memory serves. I never soaked the entire bed, which is why I assume I was able to hide most of it from my parents, but a decently sized wet patch nonetheless. One of my sisters on the other hand solidly wet the bed from about age 6 well into her teens. She only dried up when she got her period a few years ago. And finally now my mom in her fifties, bedridden due to a medical condition, is (maybe unsurprisingly) having continence issues as well. So with that in mind, it probably wasn't a surprise that my strong control and large bladder was just a superficial fix I "learned" in response to my own control issues as a kid.
But back to entirely my self-inflicted dilemma. I decided I would finish this second month of diapers overnight regardless, just because I'm not one to do things half-assed. If I remember correctly, the rest of December went by without any further incidents.
The came January, time to wean myself of this soothing but dangerous habit. At this point I didn't entirely trust myself not to wet the bed if I stopped wearing literally overnight (pun intended), but I also didn't feel like stopping to wear diapers, so I settled on wearing each of them for two nights in a row. In the first night I would not wet at all and just have them held up by my underpants so I wouldn't wear out the tapes, the second night I would tape them on but only wet them very deliberately in the morning before disposal. For a few days that went just fine. Until... One evening I was taping the diaper on for its second night, when I was sort of puzzled by how unusually cold it felt. It actually took me way too long to figure out what was wrong: It was wet. I had unconsciously wet the diaper in my sleep during its first night, and hadn't even noticed when I hastily pulled it off to hide it under my sheets in the morning. Granted, it was only very little wet, but definitely squishy if you cared to pinch the padding.
That realization hit home hard. This was not going the way I had planned. It was a weird feeling, knowing without a doubt that my earlier leak was in fact a real wetting; having all my hopes of it maybe just having been a fluke and a failure to remember going, dashed. So for the next few days I was kind of wary, meticulously checking each diaper for signs of even the slightest wetness when I got up.
I didn't have to wait long - just a few days later I woke up to find the fresh diaper I'd put on the night before squishy. And it wasn't just a little wet from a few spurts, I had soaked about a third of the padding! It fully classified as a wet diaper, and I had no recollection of waking up to pee, plus I wouldn't have purposely wet this diaper on its first day yet anyway, seeing as it wasn't actually taped on and could've leaked. The feelings this invoked were complicated. On one hand, the fact that this happened all on its own without my consent was sort of scary, and turning into a regular bedwetter was the last thing I'd need on my plate at this point in my life where I'm unfortunately still living under one roof with the rest of my family, and can barely do a thing without it being observed and scrutinized, or at the very least object of curious questions. On the other hand, it felt weirdly right to wake up with all the toilet business taken care of already - it just felt sort of natural. Maybe it's just the naughtiness of not having to wake and get up to go the toilet like everybody else, but I admit I liked the idea of waking like this every day, despite it being the last thing I needed at the moment. I went to bed that night, half dreading, half curious if it would happen again.
The next morning I woke up to a wet diaper. I was starting to get concerned that I had gone a step too far already, and that this would become a regular occurrence from now on. It had definitely been a sensible decision to not stop wearing diapers holus-bolus. I would've had several difficult-to-conceal sets of wet sheets by this point.
Fortunately, I seemed to be out of the woods, as I didn't have any other accidents from there on, and I was able to stop wearing diapers overnight again around mid-January. This was right on cue too, since my dad moved out just after, as part of the ongoing divorce of my parents, and we all changed our day-to-day routine by getting up earlier in the morning which unfortunately eliminated the time frame where I could sneak out to buy diapers unnoticed.
As I mentioned, all this happened between last year and this January, so I've now been back to a dry bed, and getting up to pee in the toilet like a normal boring adult almost (!) incident-free for 9 months. I'll get to why I say "almost" in a bit, but suffice to say, I haven't dared repeat this experiment yet, and don't intend to do so for the foreseeable future. I definitely have the feeling it left some lasting impacts on my potty training. For one, I seem to have to pee more frequently than I used to, though I cannot say that for sure as it might also reflect recent healthier hydration habits. But I do go pee more often now, as the urge is more present and gets uncomfortable quicker. I also feel like I wake up having to pee more often since, though this is once again very subjective and hard to quantify. However what I do know, is that when I go back to wearing diapers at night it will very likely be a one way road.
Just the other night I wore a diaper, only one, for a single night, for fun like I've been doing for years, and the day after I woke up to find my pajama completely damp in the groin. I obviously again wet in my sleep, and pretty early on in the night too at that, judging by how well the wetness had spread already. So if a single diaper can trigger it, I'd better be watching my steps. I think I would really enjoy waking up in wet diapers in the long run - it's a "privilege" many of us DLs don't get to experience for a long time despite rigorous diaper training, but under the current circumstances I unfortunately really can't indulge in it. If I were to wet more than a simple Tena Slip could hold, I'd have to order in bigger diapers, and aside from being quite expensive, huge boxes like that being delivered every few months just to mysteriously disappear, would not go unnoticed by my cohabitants ;D
Plus, I'll probably have to undergo a surgery "down there" sooner or later, so having to seal a healing incision against a flood of pee every night just unnecessarily complicates things. I also don't feel like telling anyone at the hospital about this embarrassing condition (lest someone might actually try and talk me into getting a cure, or even ask how it came to be, lol)
So yeah, this is the story of how I inadvertently almost un-potty trained myself during nighttime because I didn't expect my level of control to only be so perfunctory. Ultimately we'll never know how many times I actually ended up unconsciously wetting, because I always wet my diaper before falling asleep, and considering my bedwetting history, never used to wet much when it happened back in the day either.
I also hope I got all of the timelines more or less correct as I'm merely jotting this down from memory such a long time later. But I hope you enjoyed the read
@flowerdaddy22 Congratulations. While you probably don't want to hear this, you probably are now vulnerable to having a unplanned nocturnal accident. Sounds like your maximum night time bladder capacity may be more than mine was. And my night time capacity was above average -- which would lead to most Urologists questioning my capacity numbers. You probably learned to hold, hold, hold at night and ended up first thing most mornings taking a trip to the bathroom to relieve the (very) full bladder. As you age, I expect other "fun" will happen and you will end up not able to hold, hold, hold till morning all the time.... And at that point need a high capacity disposable diaper or a good set of cloth diapers to keep things contained. And once the prostrate growth kicks in and further decreases your functional bladder capacity (assuming that kicks in earlier than later), you may find your self needing to wear protection every night.... So while not explaining what you have done to get here, you may need to come clean sooner than later with the family that you need to wear protection at night again...
Best wishes that you can hold off on this issue longer -- assuming that is what you want.
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11 hours ago, BrownBobby said:
A lot of good stuff in here, and one or two things I want to clarify.
- If I had my way and could design an actual "protocol" or "playbook" for how to support people professionally with this desire, I would include "implant a stent for 3-6 months so they can see exactly what 'no control' fully feels like." That window is short enough to get around a lot of the medical risks while still being long enough to get a good taste for how it would go.
- Realizing you're "incontient" is hard. It's almost impossible to be fully Incontinent. Even now, arguably as incontinent as humanly possible, I can still influence it. I can drink less fluids, or sit/lie down, or even clamp it off for a bit. It's hard for a brain that's spent so long trying to get a goal to deal with what success looks like and even realize it has it sometimes . I'm not joking when I say, for me, I've accomplished my biggest goal in life with this surgery, one I literally only dreamed about. How often do people get to say that?
- It's important to separate "obsessive thoughts" with "obsessive personalities." One of the most maddening things for me was KNOWING my brain was obsessively thinking about something and not being able to stop it (or the negative effects of thinking that thing was always out of reach). For me, it's less "I need a new obsession" and more "Until my brain adjusts to NOT obsessively thinking about it, I can help it by giving it another related thought when it wants to go to where that obsessive thought used to be." Another excellent suggestion from my therapist.
Case in point: I'm still considering bowel incontinence surgery, but it's SO different considering it than the bladder incontinence surgery. This time, I don't have a brain screaming and clamoring constantly about it. I still feel a small pull, but it's the same pull I feel towards seeing a car I like, or a place I would move to. The analogy I used with my therapist was around a house I really like that I drive by every day. If I wanted to live in it the same way I felt about bladder incontinence, I'd have felt a need to study zoning laws and tax codes, get my realtor's license, check Zillow hourly, anything. Now...I check if there's a "For Sale" sign on it as I drive by, and that's enough. I cannot stress how amazing, for me, it is to have that change from "all-consuming, most primal drive" to "important part of me, alongside the other parts I value and cherish." And from a lifetime of experience, this surgery was the thing that FINALLY got me to that place.
@BrownBobby / @Reddy As I've already mentioned, this area of the board is not for me.... But what I appreciate about this thread is that we have a good discussion of this subject from a relatively "good" way... And the above comments from BrownBobby I see something that probably should be how therapists and doctors / surgeons should be handling the situation.
If my bladder control ever got to the point of "locking up" instead of "automatic wetting", I'd want the option to go the direction of removing the physical control. I'm definitely NOT at that stage. I'm "fortunate" that my level of incontinence doesn't lock up control where I can't pee..... Instead, well, I need to wear my diapers (or another solution). And from what I've read else where, this potential option when there is a physical problem with control it is also rare to get the doctors to proceed with similar surgery. I would prefer to never need to go this route.
Best wishes.
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15 hours ago, willnotwill said:
Western Electric and later AT&T licensed the source code to a succession of UNIXes: Version 6, 7, 32V, Programmers Workbench (1 and 2), System 3, System V, etc... The University of California at Berkeley used that source code to generate the 2BSD (for PDP-11s) and the 3 and 4 BSD (for Vaxes and later). Notably, the BSD version of the kernel actually used the paging hardware of the VAX where the early AT&T releases just swapped like they did on the PDP-11.
So yes, while many Universities and Government agencies had access to the UNIX source code and to the modified versions from Berkeley, the University or Toronto, UIUC, US Army BRL, etc.... it was hardly open source. It was still all rolled up under the ATT source license.
OpenBSD and FreeBSD were outgrowths of the Berkeley stuff trying to replace the AT&T trade secrets with stuff that could be open sourceable. These were not officially "Berkeley Software Distributions." They were done outside of the university, but much of the code that wasn't AT&T derived still bears the "Property of the Regents of the University of California" markings.
Believe me, I did a bunch of UNIX work from 1977 on including some complete ports of the operating system. I'm not going into further details so as to not tip my identity. Suffice it to say, that you'll find my real name in various UNIX documentation if you googled it.
@willnotwill: Thanks for the additional details. I'm not up on that part of the origins of BSD Unix. Just know BSD and System V flavors had some (major) differences. I pick up my contact with BSD Unix just a little later than you, starting where the comp sci lab had a VAX 11/780 running VMS part of the time and BSD at other times..... I was using it while it was running VMS (and successfully (not planned) crashing the OS). I remember having to get done in the lab so the VAX could be back up on BSD so it could accept the UUCP call for scheduled e-mail delivery. I'm sure you would know what I mean by mail maps and bang paths for e-mail back then..... I'm not going further with an example as that would peg down my undergraduate school and if listing account, me.... Looks like we have some similar interests, and probably some overlap in education / work experience. However I wasn't involved with the BSD code.....
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5 hours ago, Crinklz Kat said:
I'm sorry Dave.... I'm afraid I can't do that.
Hal: Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
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11 hours ago, willnotwill said:
I go back to 1977 on UNIX, but you are wrong. The BSD distributions were not "open source" because they still were restrictively licensed by AT&T and only could go to others who have the source license. FreeBSD was a implementation of the BSD system to be open source done 15 years or so after BSD got started.
@willnotwill: While I recall BSD Unix wasn't completely free back then, I believe the AT&T license was System 5 (V), not BSD. The BSD flavor came out of Berkley (CA, US), instead of Bell Labs on the east coast.
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On 10/9/2024 at 7:05 AM, Little Sherri said:
Bring more than one credit card, because Canadian banks like PIN transactions, and not all terminals in the US are set up for them. Sometimes swipe transactions get declined. I had the annoyance of having a couple of Canadian cards not work for me in Vegas at places that were not set up to accept pin transactions. I found my American Express card (issued by a Canadian bank) to be the most reliable, but honestly, Visa & MC usually work at the bigger places. Have some US cash on you just in case. Call your credit card company and tell them you are going to the US, so that they don't immediately flag your first cross-border transaction as fraud, because you haven't shopped there in decades.
@Little Sherri: I believe CA and Europe were earlier adopters of cards utilizing the chip. Once the US went that direction, I think most locations accepting cards can now handle the PIN on credit card transactions, but not sure. I still (normally) don't need a PIN for credit transactions, so it could still be an issue. If that is an issue, and you can run the transaction as a "debit" (even if it is a "credit") transaction, that might take care of a PIN issue.... That reminds me that I need to initialize PINs on my cards prior to traveling outside the US....
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1 hour ago, ValentinesStuff said:
I'm not Canadian, but you might check with your bank and CC company about usage. Just to let them know that you will be out of the country and the charges are legit.
@drynot I second @ValentinesStuffcomment about checking with your credit card company. Any travel that you haven't told them in advance about (and approximate time frame) can get your card flagged for fraud, which you don't want to have happen during travel. If you have Visa / Master Card and usually Discover or American Express, card(s), those would typically be accepted (if not triggering fraud alerts). Some locations are now charging more for cards than for cash.
Also, some cards are better than others when charging in a foreign currency. Again, check with who issued the card for their terms. This includes debit and ATM cards.
I haven't crossed the boarder the US / CA boarder since long before Covid, but seemed mostly a non-issue. Since I'm from the other side, my declarations on purchases are as I enter the US. And I'm not up on what driving allows for Canadian paperwork. I have three options for crossing this boarder by car (recognized state enhance drivers license, US passport card and US passport). There is also a "trusted person's" type program open to both US and CA citizens that provides a card for utilizing an express crossing lane (and I believe in place of a passport), but you probably don't have enough time at this point to apply for that option for this trip (and costs $50 as I recall). For the US it is about the least expensive ($ wise, not necessarily time wise) way to get a known traveler number that can be used with quicker (US) airport security (TSA) checks -- at least for US citizens....
Years ago, crossed back into the US with a Scout troop. Only issue we had was having to check what food (fresh fruit specifically) could come back across the boarder (as we had been in CA for a week, with some local groceries still in the vehicle....). I believe we had to toss some things, but that was easily handled.
You could probably go to your bank (in advance, and with prior notice) to purchase US currency. Not sure how many folks near the board still accept CA instead of US currency. And as you get closer to Seattle, that I believe becomes a non-existent option unless you hit a bank up for currency exchange.
Boarder crossing times (such as Blane into Canada) I believe are posted on a (one or more) web sites. I think the WA DOT pages (for I-5 near Blane, WA) have the current crossing times listed for going into Canada.
Best wishes.
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1 hour ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:
Well, I did say it was at the end the end the end
Ah, yes, the very end....
1 hour ago, ValentinesStuff said:And I doubt any of the youngsters here will get it.
True. A bit too subtle for the younger crowd.
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22 hours ago, oznl said:
I'm also intrigued by the apparent skew of our population towards the nerd demographic and the associated overlay of neuro-diversity. This might be simply because in-depth internet discussion on a narrow topic shapes things that way or maybe, there IS some correlation between ABDL and this personality type.
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nero-diversity: Unoffically check.
- While I would never have been diagnosed as such (or on the Autism Spectrum as a result of neuro-diversity) as a child, I've know since mid elementary school how I "sense" things was different from normal. At 64, I am finally finding what I knew then is an item that indicates neuro-diversity and a flag now for the "current" definition of Autism Spectrum. And I guess some don't like folks self diagnosing on this, but there is one researcher's test available to freely take on the internet and if I wasn't neuro-diverse / on the Autism spectrum, then my results from that test upset what the researcher claims based on my test results compared to what they have published for what the test results mean.
3 hours ago, flowerdaddy22 said:Very interesting, I never stopped to wonder about the demographics, but now you mentioned it, I'd wager a guess it's not a coincidence. There does seem to be a surprising amount of tech people even amongst story authors here. BabySofia and DiaperedPrince immediately come to mind as confirmed techies due to the prominence of the topic in their stories. I also noticed that there seems to be a a higher concentration of LGBT+ folks in the 3D printing community compared to the wider tech scene, so there really could be a correlation between an area of interest and a certain type of person. After all, what actually makes people interested in the topic that is then called "their hobby"? Aside from societal influences, why would girls be more prone to be into horses and dogs or other animals, and boys into soccer and cars... If neurodiversity is really more prevalent in the tech space, which is a hypothesis I've also heard before, I wouldn't be surprised if the nerdy type is also statistically more likely to meet all the prerequisites to being an ABDL - whatever those ultimately are...
The test I reference above shows a break down of neuro-diversity and collage degree (programs? maybe not yet earned). The highest neuro-diverse group for their baseline of the tests was something like 18% of the Computer Science majors were neuro-diverse.
And again: Comp Sci collage degree: Check.
Ah, am I admitting I'm ABDL..... Ah.... ah.... ah.... I have medical issues (starting with adult on set of occasional Nocturnal Enuresis, and then the "fun" of early onset BPH, and related issues.... As a teenager I was more scared that I might eventually need diapers due to not understanding why it happened the few times I wet the bed (between 7 and 13th birthdays).... And noticing the availability in the Sears catalog around age 13.... But I didn't recognize this group when I was exposed to it three times (during High School / College years). (Seeing another student in the single room dorm complex have a picture of himself as a young (elementary school age?) boy happily standing in front of a camera having his picture taken in just (white) cloth diapers and a white t-shirt (don't remember the rest of the details) had me wondering why he would post it on the (outside) front of the door to his room.
No, I don't mind wearing my thick clean and dry, or warm and wet, (cloth) diapers.... So, there is something there.... Even if I don't want to admit it.
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16 hours ago, TrevieDaBaby said:
Personally, I remember trying Abena M4 and Bambino Teddy as my two very first ABDL diapers when I first was starting out. This was back in 2013/2014.
Would love to hear from others what diapers they remember trying first when they were starting out.
@TrevieDaBaby: This won't be what you expect....
In searching for diapers that would work for my onset of adult of nocturnal enuresis, some of the cloth diapers I tried out were from a manufacture that supposedly supplied the same thing I bought to DPF as one of their specialty (i.e. ABDL) cloth diapers....
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4 hours ago, spark said:
This headline got my attention. At first I thought it was another story of infantilizing young adults, but the article makes a compelling argument.
It's not diaper related, but i don't know how I would have felt about this when I was in college.
@spark: Interesting.... This actually makes some sense for the loft beds that show up in dorm rooms. While I slept on raised beds in collage dorm rooms, without a rail, I also did not have any problems with that. A raised bed is one of the ways you get more usable room in a dorm room. In my first dorm room the beds were in an L shape, with one bunked over the other . Not as high as a traditional bunk bed, but.... still elevated above the normal.... and no rail.....
In the dorm rooms that I've seen were triples, one of the beds was the equivalent of the upper bunk on a normal bunk bed. Don't remember if that configuration had rails....
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10 hours ago, CuriousForPadding said:
Ok, question - for those of you who wear 24/7, how do you dispose of your diapers? Are there adult-sized diaper bins? Do they have deodorizers? I’m a little sick of constantly running to the trash bin in the garage, but the bathroom garbage fills up so fast, and the smell is too strong if I don’t take things out pretty immediately…
That's what the washing machine is for - for my cloth diapers.... Ok, you mean for the disposable ones..... Part of the reason I mainly use cloth. For vacations, disposables work with the local trash cans where I'm staying for a night on the trip.
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12 hours ago, BabyCody27 said:
So I’ve seen a lot of posts about people’s journeys to becoming bedwetters. In most of them, I see people write about it being a long process just to even get to the point of being comfortable wetting while in bed and then an even longer process (sometimes years) of wetting while asleep.
That has not been my experience. I started wearing diapers to bed full time a few months ago and I have already progressed to a point where I am now wetting without waking up a few times a week. I am not sure if I’ll still wet even if I sleep without a diaper, but at this point I don’t want to risk the extra laundry. This is much quicker than what others have shared. I guess I am wondering if this might be because I wet the bed as a kid? Specifically, I wet the bed until I was 15. I am now almost 28, so that means for the majority of my life I have worn diapers to bed. I am wondering if maybe my subconscious mind is still used to the idea of me wetting the bed so I have been able to more quickly slip back into wetting in my sleep than others. Has anyone else experienced this? I don’t feel like I’m doing anything extra other than wearing to bed and wetting when I feel the need.
@BabyCody27: There are some of us that break more easily that most folks....
I've known since elementary school (starting with pain) that how I sense things is different from normal. And there were 10 times between my 7th and 13th birthday where I woke up having emptied my bladder without even knowing it.... As an adult, at one point I had an illness. The doctor went aggressive with the medication, and the combination had me wetting every night for the two weeks I was on the medication when ever the bladder needed release.... Once I got over the illness and off the medication, I was dry about 3 nights and then bam.... Since then my night time control has been broken. And once early onset BPH hit, my max. capacity has gone down and I'm now regularly using my diapers overnight. Type 2 diabetes probably doesn't help either.
So, yes, be careful or you may break sooner than later.... And I expect in your case, you are back to being unreliable at night.
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3 hours ago, Crinklz Kat said:
I got lions and tigers and bears... oh my, it's a Tykables Overnights for this Big Diaper Friday #BDF.
@Crinklz Kat And your Lion, Tiger and Bears (stuffies) should be happy with that. <grin>
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On 9/13/2024 at 6:38 AM, Little Sherri said:
I was a relatively early adaptor when it comes to internet connectivity - I bought a computer, for the price of a used car, when I was in the 6th grade - a 386 upgraded to a lofty 8 MB of RAM - this at a time when the hard drive was typically in the 40-80 MB range. I had a 2400 baud modem, and then later a lightning-quick 19,200 baud. My sister used to disrupt my "browsing" by picking up the phone sometimes. Back then, you also had to decide if installing Windows was worth the space it took up.
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When I rediscovered this side of myself, Google was a nascent thing, and I had a DSL internet connection that was warp speed compared with the Model T connections of my youth, but still, I never looked for "this". My realization that I wasn't alone in the world (other than having read the odd article about a politician or, interestingly, a mobster, who was said to have a thing about being diapered), came when I decided to use the inter-web to find adult cloth diapers, which led me to two places: Rearz, and, this site. My mind was blown. An industry? A community? My God.
(80)386? You're late to the computer stuff... Let me pull out my old H100, a 5MHz 8086/8088 dual processor (but only run one at a time). Don't think I have any 80286 CPU based systems left around here. Might have an old 80386 based system... Got MS-DOS 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 - 5 1/4" floppy disks for booting that H-100 somewhere around here. It won't run Windows (3.1). However, the Z150 at 8MHz would. Originally 64
MBKB for graphics and 112MBKB (?) for regular RAM. Eventually with a prom upgrade, 756K RAM for DOS and 3x64K for graphics. Also had a 5 MB MFM hard disk for the system, and a 40 MB MFM. 5 1/4" floopy eventually went from 360KB to 1.2 MB.... [An IBM PC at the time couldn't go above 640KB for memory with MS-DOS. The H100 had boot ROM and graphics memory in higher address space which permitted the use of up to 756KB RAM.]Ah, and the 300 bps / 1200 bps modem (300 baud modem). OK, before I bought that, in College, the academic computer center supported up to 2400 bps (600 baud) by "normal" modems, and some of the dedicated links to other sites were higher speeds (up to 9600 bps). And line printer art.....
On 9/13/2024 at 9:50 AM, Pelusban said:The Internet was available commercially only after 1989, and also the World Wide Web and the HTTP protocol was available only after that. Previously the Internet was a military and scientific project between labs and universities. That was the dial-in era with different standards and protocols and direct connections to individual servers and networks. Although I have never used these, I remember protocol and system names like Gopher, Lynx, Usenet, BBS, Minitel (France).
I think you can't find the content of these old systems on the web unless it's still available and there is a gateway, or someone somewhere mirrored the data to www pages.
You missed Fidonet.....(dial up BBS network).... I'd have to fire up my old OS/2 box to pull out content. Or mount drives on a Linux system to extract files....
I do remember the Comp Sci department's VAX 11/780 getting taken down from running VMS on a regular schedule to switch over to (BSD) Unix so the scheduled UUCP connections could be made to exchange e-mail. (Have fun with the ! paths and routing maps - pre DNS, pre (TCP) IPv4.
On 9/13/2024 at 4:49 PM, Crinklz Kat said:Nobody's mentioned "USENET".... I discovered "alt.sex.fetish.diapers" and "alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.diapers" back in the 90s and that was my first exposure to this world. USENET was 100% text and globally distributed. So downloading pictures wasn't clicking on a link. You had to download the text embedded in the message (actually multiple messages), reassemble the raw text, and then run it through a decode program to reconstruct the binary image (back then .GIF was the only format viable for internet distribution). I still have dozens of pictures I had downloaded from USENET.
As far as early sites, the one I frequented before finding this site was WetSet.net. Then it went to a pay format and only the legacy stuff was left open to the public.
Ah, USENET. When my nighttime control broke, I found alt.sex fetish.diapers that lead me to BBIF, a mail list, which is still around today, but not much traffic. BBIF had the resource list for alt.sex.fetish.diapers. (Hi @boogles ) The second best resource list at the time was the tri-state incontinence resource center. Just spotted a note on BBIF, back to 2023/08/28 with a subject of RE: Thirty years of alt.sex.fetish.diapers.
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@Little Sherri: Cloth diapers can be done on trips, but probably not on business trips like this. I've only used disposables for business trips - where I've needed.
I have done about a month long vacation in cloth diapers. I was with family and we were using a tent camp trailer and camping along the way. I was running a load of diapers at the camp laundry facility about every 4 or so days. So, it is doable.
I'll admit my last longer vacation the higher capacity disposable diapers and stuffers were finally up to the job most of the time, and was more convenient for travel.