littleJaina

Interesting twist!

Very nice... Will he have a surprise on waking?

Technically, being incontinent would qualify as a "special need" once you get past the age where toilet training is typical.

Too bad this story seems to have stalled.

This is something I think about alot because, honestly, being called Mommy makes me just about want to vomit.

We are all FAR more likely to notice someone else's diapers than the average person because we see bulk and think "maybe a diaper"? Most people won't. Even if they notice bulk, an adult in a diaper isn't the way their mind will interpret it. As for finding someone... A general rule is to tell them after you know you'd like to be close enough to them that they'd be likely to notice, but before you actually put them in a position to stumble upon it.

I understand what you feel.

d-drew. I pwersonally DID consider wearing protective underwear. I'd worn them before, in college, when I had really bad periods. However, after birth they just weren't practical. I bled so much I had to be changing ALL THE TIME, and while the protective underwear cover more survace, they don't absorb blood efficiently enough (not to mention tissue) to have resulted in being able to go much longer between changes. It's also SO much harder to change a protective undergarment than it is to change just a pad. When you're ripped up down there, movement of any sort is just not something you look forward to. Then you have to consider that protective undergarments create a warmer, moister, environment - which is also not something you want when you're trying to avoid getting infections around stitches.

I just have to add that, while I realized 150 years isn't THAT old, it is older than indoor plumming AND old enough to be recognized as a historical site (at least here in the US). That's how old most of the Catholic churches in my area are. (You might call us little Poland around here!). Religion here has always been taken VERY seriously - yet communion and confirmation rarely result in vomitting or fainting. It does happen, occasionally. Kids can get sick at the worst of times, and sometimes it can get hot enough with the kids all crammed together in the pews (not to mention the incense!) that a kid will faint. It doesn't happen every year, but once in a while it does. Yet, I must say again, no notice to put kids into diapers! The church in my town is relatively modern. It actually does include a single indoor toilet - which faux pau as it may be - is regularly used during services. However, even the older churches that don't have toilets built into the original structure generally have them available in a more modern building built elsewhere on the grounds. While it isn't ideal, nature sometimes will call urgently during mass, and people do use them to relieve themselves. I just have a hard time believing that things in Europe are so totally different that schools are sending home notes about this kind of stuff. Getting ready for confirmation around here generally revolves around people trying to remember exactly what they are and aren't supposed to do, and then prepping themselves to be board out of their minds for two hours and parents warning their sons not to fall asleep during the service.

uh..huh...

It could be an infection that will pass, some change in your diet that isn't agreeing with you, or even a parasite you picked up from who knows where. I agree with the others, this is abnormal enough that you need to check in with your doctor!

Christine - even IF what he was saying were true because he lives in a tiny little place in the middle of nowhere - it still makes his post irrelevant to the rest of the world. Therefor his claims about what "most medical professionals" know is completely bogus. If you assume he is telling the truth about a twillight zone isolated sector of the world, then he can't try to generalize to what happens outside it. If you assume that where he lives is NOT totally unique, then the arguments we have all given still apply. Also - as a child from a small town in the middle of nowhere, we were frequently taken on class trips where the bus ride would be an hour to two hours. These are school busses, without restrooms. Not once, in any of my time in school up to the present day when my younger siblings are in school, did the administration ever send out any notes requesting parents diaper their children. Accidents were also a very rare incident on the busses. (maybe once every 5 years or so, and almost always with a child with known wetting problems) Now - this is only annecdotal evidence, I know, but it does go to show that (at least in my little world) children are quite capable of not using the restroom for prolonged periods of time.

You have to give them some credit though. They didn't really make this out to be any weirder than any of the others. In fact, I think it came off more normal than some! And for the record, I am a strait female!

I can say that, for certain, I did not wear a diaper on my wedding day. Of course, my marriage ended in disastrous splendor - so maybe I should have, for luck! ;-) That being said, I also have to doubt what Keiff is saying. I know multiple families in Europe, and while one family did allow their daughter to keep her pacifier to the unsightly age of 4, not a single one of them has ever mentioned older children using diapers or pullups. I also know that in my rather large extended family, that happens to have had a large number of weddings and communions, the only person who has ever worn a diaper is my one cousin who has spina bifida and is in a wheel chair - and even then it's only to make sure nothing happens between her cath routines. My family isn't shy either. They pretty much tell everyone everything, so I'm pretty sure knowledge like this would get out!

I'm from Texas too! Near San Antonio

Well, I can only give my personal experience, but no - being pregnant caused absolutely no incontinence whatsoever. I didn't even have to pee noticably more often, which is strange considering I was thirsty and drinking ALL THE TIME! I was a teacher during that time period and so only had the opportunity to pee twice during my workday, and it was never a problem. My son was a big baby too. He was 9lbs9oz at birth. However, I did carry him high the entire pregnancy. Even when my water broke, the Dr's at the hospital were concerned because he hadn't dropped at all. Now - immediately after birth was a totally different story. They didn't expect my son to be as large as he was, so I had a completely vaginal birth. After he finally emerged I had over 70 stitches (I forget the exact number) in order to put all my skin back together. I also had a Dr. who didn't believe in giving nursing mothers anything except Ibuprofen for pain. I was so swollen and I hurt so badly for about a week that I had difficulty sensing much of anything in that area. I often wouldn't realize I needed to pee until it had started to leak. It didn't matter much however. Anyone who has had a baby knows that you pretty much gush blood for a good long time after the birth. I was already wearing thick pads for that, so a little urine was hardly noticeable. Once all that healed, I went back to normal for the most part. I still have a touch of stress incontinence every once in a while if I sneeze or cough too hard. However, I learned that if I make a conscious effort to "hold it" before sneezing or coughing, then nothing happens. Thus, I might leak a few drops of urine (probably close to that 1/4 teaspoon mentioned above, if that much) once every 6 weeks or so. It's not enough to even cause me to wear maxi pads all the time.

Well, if his fetish and desires are of a sexual nature, then I think it truly should be considered committing a crime. She was duped into providing sexual gratification services against her will (presuming she didn't know). That is an emotional violation if not a physical one. It isn't exactly "rape" but I definitely think it could be considered "sexual harassment", especially since it was her employer doing it! On the other hand, she had to be fantastically stupid not to realize something was up! This guy needed his diaper changed and his bottle fed, but managed to give coherent "excuses" as to why his "brother" couldn't meet her? Also, she obviously showed up to work every day to find him alone! If his case was severe enough to require bottles (and I've NEVER heard of that before!) then it seems a little strange that he would be left by himself for any length of time. It seems like this guys would have gotten away with it if he hadn't been stupid enough to quit paying!

To be fair to the poorer schools, they often can't afford to. Regulations are often passed down without providing any funding for compliance.

I think the problem alot of urine incontinent people face isn't exactly when they are IN the water - but rather the fear they will have an accident while they are in a swim suit and NOT in the water. This is an obvious problem because people rarely put on their suits immediately before getting into the water, and it's not really practical to wear a disposable diaper under a suit and take it off RIGHT before jumping in if you're at the beach or a lake. However, DTO brief that XP medical sells actually seems to solve this problem - or at least it's the best product I've seen so far. If you add a couple of booster pads, it should be able to protect you reasonably well for a small amount of time (probably not HOURS without changing the pads, but enough that you needn't draw a ton of attention to yourself). I imagine you could probably even add a cloth diaper under it if you needed too, but it would make it bulkier. As for being discrete - well, that is always a problem in states of mild undress. The truth is you're never going to find a product that will protect you but can be worn under thin clothing. I think they make some sort of penile clamp for guys that might work - but not an absorption product. A diaper works by being padding - that's sort of the point! I imagine guys can get by with using a slightly larger size of swim trunk, since swim trunks don't fit too tightly. make sure you tie the strings well or wear a shirt with them though. For girls, I think it's pretty much a lost cause. Swimsuits for girls are just too form fitting. However, in the last few years they have been making suits for us larger women with skirts on them and that are sort of "double ply" so that there is a layer that fits against the skin, and an outer somewhat looser layer that can slide over it so that our rolls don't show as badly. If you're not too skinny, you may be able to find a suit like that so that additional bulk around the bottom area isn't as visible.

I know several people who are not normally bowel incontinent who occasionally mess themselves in their sleep. It sounds VERY uncomfortable!

It sounds like your doctor needs a good slap upside the head. What a terrible thing to tell you! I've known guys who were incontinent for years (though none as long as 17) who have been able to gain back control. Sure, the muscles would have atrophied, but there are biofeedback devices now available to help with regaining sphincter muscle tone. It sounds like you need to get a few outside opinions. Of course, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. However, that's no reason to give up!

BK, I don't agree with your diagnosis at all. At any rate, I think you ought to be a bit more hopeful. My initial take on things is that there may have been significant pain or swelling around his nerves that has been relieved by the recent treatment. While atrophy is a problem, there is no muscle in the body where atrophy cannot be reversed. It will probably require some biofeedback to help strengthen the muscles in the right places, but it is possible. Back to 100% may not be quite feasible, but then again as adults age the definition of 100% becomes shakier too. Very few women who give birth are ever quite at the same level they were before birth because of a variety of things, but most of them never even report symptoms because they are so minor. However, I do agree that it in this situation it would be worth looking into a chiropractor. I'd definitely want one that looked at x-rays though. If you have an irregular spine, you don't want someone jacking with your spinal column without knowing where everything stands. However, chiropractors are great for many things including pain management. If pain has been a factor in your incontinence (or numbness that led to incontinence) then it may well be worth looking into! Good luck!

I don't know... I'm thinking an double chocolate x-lax milk shake with Benadryl garnish might be JUST THE THING, to make this brother get a grip!

Eddie, I'm sorry you're getting such a bad deal. However, I've shopped for insurance several times, and never had to pay anywhere close to what you are. Maybe you need to do more research before you buy in next year.