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No dont think so. I used to go to Demo derbies at intermission sometimes they brought out this outhouse and a guy would go in and it would blow up, a lot a noise stuff went everywhere. The smoke would clear and the wobbly guy would stagger around a bit but he didnt look incon, may have had a headache or two

Nope not gona work I have to strech my back, neck and almost everything else possible to keep range of motion, so nope not gona work. But It may be very relaxing, sounds far better that being strung up with weights at therapy. May just have to get one to try, may just get back that 1/2 in I am missing I wonder how much taller I might get

You may be reacting to the food or what it is prepared in or with. Alergies can change with age, What we were not allergic to or react to when we were younger may give us a bad response later. This can be with food, medicine, additives in products and not to forget my favorite is the outdoor allergins. PS all things in moderation may help in the future, Tooo much of anything could be bad for ya. So if you eat far toooo much its gotta go somewhere Or it was just bad food

Ya, sounds very similar to the work comp Docs I saw for my first back injury. They assured me that with all the test they did that I didnt have any back injury and it was only stress, anxiety, or depression that was causing me pain. That went on for two years, but I talked the Insurance into an outside evaluation, lucky for me the new Docs were both MDs and Osteopaths. After the Permanent nerve blocks to destroy some of the nerves in the problem areas, I can not only deal with the pain w/meds at times but can tell when my back goes out where its at for them to put it back in. So if you dont think your docs are giving you full attention to your needs or issues or will not consider other possibilities for the problems that concern you. Ask for sec or third opinions or send you to a specialist. It truly makes a deference when the Docs can back up their statement with true test results and results in treatment. But I have also seen when there is no surgical or medication to fix problems, some docs milk the insurance till they balk, then blame peoples problems as stress or in their head to move them out of their case file and office. This does three things 1 gets rid of the patient, 2 put the problem on the patient, 3 Makes the doc look good as they have not failed in their job = the ratio of positive and negative outcomes for their practice. Who would go to one that had a lot of failures??? Some my think I am overstating this some, But when they put in in your records it stays for all future Docs, to see and can make it hard to deal with down the road. It was a - PROFESIONAL that put it there as is taken as fact and can not be changed after that,, Period. I found this out the hard way on my sec back injury, different work comp Docs wanted to blame the stress and anxiety I created in my head was why I was in pain. That was a fun 4 mths, till they did the nerve test showing how much nerve damage was done, but toooo late then. Give them a time line - then run, LOL if you still can

This may sound somewhat dumb on my part, but I thought all the nerves for the bowel and bladder were well protected from injury. But after my latest injury of L3,4,5,6, with nerve damage in both legs, combined with prior upper back injury and 10 permanent nerve blocks that my incon issues are a come and go or like on & off at times. When my back is real bad I do worse with it, but has slowly gotten worse over the past year. It also acts on my digestive tract and with reflux. Cutting back on fluids makes both of these worse as well as creating more bladder urges and constipation that again makes my bladder more irritated. One Doc says its the chronic high pain levels at times overloads the signals for control. Another Doc says its pressure on the nerves in my lower back noting that the steroid injections helped in the begining for bowel control and alergy meds helped some for the bladder control for a while. Third one thinks its the muscle spasms that I get all thru my body that indicate something out of control with my nervous system. And best was the forth he thought that since I was bedwetter later than the norm when I was younger and the lack of sleep for days at a time since the injuries and Somehow that was part of it. Most everything I can deal with but the incon issuses perplex me as well as complicate life. Now I only take pain meds when It gets so bad that I cant sleep or cant fuction due to the pain and loss of range of motion. I am always at a high pain level and can have injuries, burns, cuts with no or little concern. They say that my feet and legs go numb/useless from something called positional pressure on the spine/nerves. Its about the same for my hands and arms, I can be doing something and loose the ability to use or grip.

Ya its too bad that reality can realy BITE back. I never would have thought of having a back injury, let alone two of them. But I never dreamed of having complications with Incon. or having to wear any protection. Now I do admit at times of wishing for some kinky things and playmates LOL, but incon and diapers were not on that list. LOL So as they say watch out for what you wish for, as you may get a lot more than you bargained for or more than you wish to live with. That reminds me I never did get those kinky playmates, LOL

I have to screem foul, knowbody paid me for each accident I have had, It wouldnt have been so bad if someone had paid me, protection cost really add up over time LOL

Hello, I am also from the Springfield Mo. area. Just found this posting, I am also looking for others for chat,info as I am still fairly new to all of this and still learning as I go. Go- may have been a poor choice of words LOL. I always try to keep an open mind to others views, likes and even thier kinks. I am also looking for possible connections with others, but have no expectations on that, as Dating has become hard enough after my back problems = viewed as damaged goods. I am still new to computers ( part of my rehab training) but would welcome finding new friends in the area.

I am still learning about these issues also and the ideas from the others may be helpful. As for me, on the good days I get by with reg undies or heavy pull ups. On the bad days sometimes have to fall back on the diapers. I always keep at travel bag in the car with all the supplies and extra pullups/diapers and change of cloths. I keep my problems to myself and with proper fitting pull ups and diapers, I have not had too many problems yet. When I visit relatives I throw in everything I need for the shower/shaving and nobody knows. For overnights I suggest underpads as extra protection at the relatives. Also try wearing various types of protection to see what fits and works best for you, for short trips near home or errands. But before I gave into wearing protection I did have a Gal after several dates point out how many times I had to go to the bathroom and how much of a hurry I was in to get there. She already knew about my back problems as I cant hide the way I walk. I tried to explain it off on the medications I was taking only to find out she had a friend in the medical field that told her that many people with my back problems were incontinent and may have other pyhsical and medical issues. So sometimes others can find out anyway, If so just tell them the truth-- then hope for the best or just grin and bear it. At that point you will know who you can count on or trust and who your friends are,,,, or if they are still around LOL Now as far as work goes , not sure yet, Just started a new job and have not faced any problem days yet Wish you luck, like to hear back on what you find that works for you as I am still learning to.

Hi, I on the north side of Springfield MO. I am looking for new friends that are accepting or have an open mind towards others issuses Likes or needs. Interested in chating, possible meeting, activities, social.

I`m just north of Springfield MO. Just here learning what I can hope to chat with others

Hi Turtlepins, I think its a great idea, I wish we had something like that in MO. I have started to look for jobs and find many ways to srceen people out of jobs for disabilities, Impairments, Medical issues. I wish you luck, not sure I can help but open to chat about it.

I never thought of that. I used a tens for about 2 years for my upper back problems till I had the perm nerve blocks. But you may want to use caution with them. When used for pain and adjusted right it cancels out the pain signal and can desensitize areas over time. Can cause spasms and muscle strains and cramps. So dont set it tooooo high you might have some malfucntions LOL of some important play parts. Now where did i put that contraption in the storage room??????? I doubt it would help my incon much OHH might make it worse, as I already have spasms. Be careful, watch out for burning the skin (top surface just comes off and leaves ozzy subsurface) Theres a lotion for the skin when using one all the time.You have to use it alot, but can iritate sensitive areas faster. LOLOL - might strain some nuts have fun now. Now where is that thing ??

I han`t realy thought about it but I was a bedwetter till I was about 9 or 10years old. Forgot about all the issuses that created for me then. Now that I have had two back injuries with the last one of the low back I have had problems with day and night. At first the cortison shots helped some with pain then later steroid shots seemed to help the incon. some. I have alergies and they changed the alergy med to Zertec D and had me use a nasal steroid because alergies got out of control. This also helped with the incon and the Docs thought they helped two problems. But now after all the work comp stuff is over and 2.5 yrs the incon has come back worse. If I overdo it with my back its worse as I have more body spasms, if i try to hold my bladder it can go into spasm also. If my body pain is too bad or my feet and legs/hands start going numb from the presure in my back I have to back on meds. So instead of protectives I have to go to diapers and pads. I have been threw many many pain clinics , used a tens, had perm nerve blocks and can coupe with the pain most of the time. Or untill i`m exhausted and crash into deep sleep (which I miss ).The first time that happened was on a Friday night, thought I would get in bed and take a nap and didn`t wake up till Sunday mourning. After that surprise I knew I had to do something different even if I didn`t want to accept it or not. I still have problems with accepting this as I am supposed to be an adult. On the plus side I don`t always know how bad I am hurt when I do something, Thats how I got the low back problem now, thoght I just pulled some muscles badly. Doc what did you mean by the spine is not to move like that and have bulges.? Thats why I have come here to find out more about the issue, how some deal with it. And I have found it calming to me to start looking forward. So I have to say I fall into this area also even if I am not ready to admit it. But I am open to learn from others.

1 The idea of something pushed up there is not for me. Have known some people that had to use them for many years and others while in the hospital. Non were very happy to use them and some had scaring that made it worse. I guess if you only play with them for short periods and very careful may not be harmful. Just watch for infections like some of the others mentioned. As far as sex with them I have heard it both ways, good and bad. Size and careful use may make the defference in that. 2 I do have personal experience with spasms 24/7 of almost all my body muscles as well as spasm that come and go with my bladder and digestive track. I can be to the point that is too painful to breath but the bladder spasms suck big time. I tried to not use protection/diapers by tring go more often or to hold it longer. But the spasm always get the best of me. I start leaking while I try to hold on to get to the bathroom and leak on the way only to get there and not be able to relaxe to go and then it can tighten up some more.Very painful!! Curled up on the floor is no fun either or in traffic hoping to make it to a restroom. 3 my best suggestion would be happy to play in diapers and have fun, trust me you will have plenty of oppertunities to become incontinent in the future. I didn`t plan on having 2 back injuries, one friend in highschool had her pelves crushed in a car wreck, they rebuilt her bladder and it never worked well for her and she walked a little funny, now I walk about like she did. I saw how hard it was for her to be in diapers and that was in the 70s. Oh and don`t forget medical complications and old age. A women I meet in therapy had the same types of perm nerve blocks, by the same DOC, didn`t plan on waking up in ICU on a ventilator mostly paralyzed. Im sure she enjoyed having to use diapers for the next 6 to 8 months it took to regain most of her body functions. SHe was about ten yrs older than I am an must be looking forward to having to use diapers in her senior years. 4 But what do I know as I am still new to all this. I can understand the desire for something in each of our lives. But don`t give up on having a choice in life and the freedom that choice gives you in return. I take meds when pain and spasms get too bad or I overdue it with my back == having to use protection or diapers - no choice. If I reinjure or my back degenerates I could end up in them 24/7 and no choice with the chance for a wheel chair thrown in. Yet I still have the desire to be active and work at at higher level than I should and the risk is high enough my employer would not allow me back. I`ll get off my soapbox now, but i would still like to have choices in life and the freedom that comes with my chosing the choice.

I am not sure I am to the point of liking to wear yet, I may get there in due time. But have to agree that when needed they can reduce the stress level when I dont make it to the bathroom. I have had many accidents from not knowing that I needed to go untill it was right now ! or it was tooo late to find out. I have even tried using the bathroom more often but that still does not help. At the end of a date with a gal, she brought it up on how many times I had used the restroom for the evening. That was embarrasing and that kinda made the point that I needed protection to have some control. Dating is not very fun right now. And now I am tring for employment its been over 2 years out of work and very nervous about the issue of protection and dealing with it in a job setting. So I came to this site for more information and ideas on coping with some of the issues I am dealing with

Could I get more boxes??? Me still unsure but willing to find out. may be willing to try all, ?? LOL

Hi to all, just checking back in and wanted to say thanks for the welcome. As writen above I do accept that the use of diapers and protecties are very helpful, Just wish I had the choice in the mater thou. But I do have it lucky that I can avoid overdoing it with my back helps reduce the type and need of protection, but not always. Its kinda hit and miss on that. LOL I hope to hear from any incons with back injuries as I still have some questions that they may be able to help with or advice. Seems work comp docs do not like to deal with some issues. Or the fact they should have checked further before putting me in therapy, Like that was going to fix anything. LOL And to all the AB/DL `s here I have no problem accepting your wants or likes, we all have our interest and kinks and hope to hear from you to. I agree with the need for acceptance as I have had some bad experience with getting back into dating and just doing activities has been difficult and a little frustrating to say the least. So you could say I am open to finding others in my area to do things with and maybe explore the Ab/DL side of things. WHo knows where that may lead, but i will keep an open mind to all. I am still new to the computer stuff and not sure about how to contact or how the forums and chat works and could use some info on that too. If I do not hear from anyone, I wish eveyone a happy xmas and a happy and safe new year. Now I just got to get back up ,my feet and legs have gone numb again. I just wonder how anyone can set at a desk all day. LOL

Thought I would put my 2 cents in also. I try not to judge others for their needs, but the surgury is a bad idea. You can try some of the ideas posted or you can tell the doc your having spasms. See if they could do a temp nerve blocks to see if it helps? This might give you a chance to see reality for what it is. PS I have had 2o temps and 10 permanent blocks with some bad complications so I do know the risk. I am lucky this week and don`t have to wear 24/7 so far and can feel my legs and feet most of the time,but had to stop doing what I wanted to do for a few weeks to get that. Who knows next week. Oh and it is so much fun tring to find and Hold on to get to the bathroom in time. Only to have to not make it in time or have painfull spasms tring to go. I have been told that at any time I could make my back worse by tring to do the things and work that I want to do, I could lose all control of bladder and/or bowel. And who knows about sex and walking. I dont have a choice, no one is paying my way and I have to survive and eat. Or do I. I DID NOT plan or want this problem as I used to have the freedom to do anything I wanted, now I don`t. George you have planned for only for if things go right, what is your plans if everything goes wrong. I have been over 2yrs out of work for this. If things go wrong can you afford all the future cost - denided medical, lose of job, lose of freinds, relationships. I don`t think you can survive on nappies alone, if you go bankrupt can you eat them. And remember there is the chance for complications in any surgury, the wrong things cut you may find yourself with problems you didn`t want or plan for. But best of luck, but my vote is no.

Thought I would take time and say hi to all here. I am still new to computers and the net, part of my retraining for new employment if I am lucky. So let me know if I get in the way or out of line. I have checked out this site over the last month, not sure what I am looking for yet. But I decided to join in to see where it goes. I am not sure I can get to the point of being a AB/DL but I keep an open mind to others and do not pass judgement. It is kinda hard to understand some wanting to be incont, All I can Say is I wishI had taken that one day off work and not have to deal with it. My problems are not all the time, but have to plan for them all the time. I still have questions that some here may be able to help with, But in due time. Again hi to all.