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While I knew Riley was what she was or is what she is, I still don't think, no matter how many programs or television exposure our "community" gets, it is never going to be perceived as the community would like to see it perceived. It is never going to be mainstream, or vanilla enough to be acceptable by the masses. Obviously, we are hardest on ourselves, but discretion and decorum are not that hard to exhibit, versus acting like a baby and prancing around out in public in such manner. Adults get into a mode, into a focus, and drop into a point of view. What the vanilla don't know and aren't familiar with can be troubling and worrisome. The community can do what it wants to do to try and legitimize what we like to do and do to satisfy our needs and urges. After 40 years of working to my own comfort zone, it's time to go to my grave diapered - which I will - and just watch the community try to find legitimacy, which it never will. Society sees diapers for infants, those having to deal with incontinence and the elderly. For everyone else, especially those who would wear and use by choice, it's not going to be embraced or accepted very much.

Your thoughts and questions are valid and have basis behind them. Unfortunately, virtually everyone in our community has many of the same questions and concerns because we all feel we are so out of line with mainstream "normal" society. Some questions have no answers. Most of us will never find our diaper "trigger", whether we lean DL or AB, both, or any variant thereof. And, the more threads that start, the more concerns about labels and variations of the AB or DL central line that seem to crop up. People want to be defined. People want to be legitimized. People want to be assured they are "okay", especially when they feel they have to reveal their fetishism or crave acceptance, driving them to "'fess up". For me anymore, it's only diapers, which are a legitimate, moral product for a legitimate need. I wear them by choice. I use them by choice. It's MY thing, and it's my CHOICE. It's no big deal. But, that's for ME. For so many others, it's so much more. And, it's too bad. It tends to interfere with clear thought, and a comfort zone. I intend to go to my grave wearing diapers, and I intend to be comfortable with that. And, if I get old and crotchety, and end up needing diapers, it won't be anything new, and I guess I'll be pretty comfortable wearing them all the time!

I wasn't going to weigh in here, but couldn't resist! OMG. Angela, DPF, Amber E, Infantae Press, Charles Slavik, Nugget, Penthouse Forum.... I got my first intro into "reaching out" having bought a magazine I'd never seen before, at a truck stop, while my first wife and I were on our way north to a vacation in 1976. Yes, you old farts, 1976! It was Nugget magazine, with it's letters section, that in that first time I'd seen it, had TWO letters regarding diapers and ABs! Of course, you could mail letters to the other posters through the magazine. I ended up, by that point, so feeling the need to reach out, finding I really was NOT alone in my diaper urges and desires, and I wasn't crazy for WANTING to be back in diapers - my story and philosophy can be found in my blog postings - I connected with Linda Latex, who steered me toward DPF. And, the rest, as they say, is history. I am married a third time, this time my DL side/life/world accepted, embraced and encouraged, with occasional participation, and I can freely enjoy cloth diapers or disposables, and afford what I want to buy and wear. I've come to the point in my life, watching all these uptight kiddies so wound up about being different, impatient and not able to connect and deal with relationships, where I am comfortable with ME and my life, and IT'S ONLY DIAPERS - a legal, legitimate product for a legitimate need! You wanna' wear 'em and use 'em? Just DO IT! I would prefer it be done discreetly and with decorum, but the ABs gotta' do their thing how they have to do it, the DLs oughta just be cool, and everybody oughta just chill and be content. Thanks for the thread. Nice to see all the "oldsters" weighing in. I bet at a party, just stripped down to our diapers, we'd have one cool time and be one good looking, if not odd, group! I wish everyone here the best!

Fantasy dreams are fun, but reality is reality. Diapers are acceptable for incon need, but the "recreational" aspect is up to YOU. Do it if you want, but be discreet and use some decorum. Recreational diaper use will never be embraced or accepted by "mainstream" society. The view will remain what it is. The more that can accept that can help form and formulate a better "community" that is already in place, to a degree. You simply are not going to see adults padding around out in public wearing just diapers and a t-shirt and have it accepted. It might be a pipe-dream for many, but it's just not gonna happen... Reality bites some days...

AFAIC, if you're gonna wear diapers, you ought to use 'em, and if you use 'em, you ought to use 'em like you need to. Of course, some discretion and decorum is in order, however, it is very possible to live a diaper life, and enjoy the heck out of it, with no one else the wiser OR offending anyone else!

Only when I got older, mid-teens, and realize that as I dreamed of getting up and going to the bathroom, and peeing in the toilet, that I was actually sleeping and wetting the bed. Talk about an "Ah-Hah" momemt when it finally happened, and I began to recognize it, catch myself, and wake up BEFORE I began to wet or flood my bed! Up until that point, and after - I finally dried up at about 17 1/2 - I still had times where I would wake up in a wet bed and have no recognition or memory of wetting. Unfortunately, diapers - which WERE available, and COULD have made my mornings SO much gentler and pleasant, wet or not - were never used. Now, I wake up with the urge to urinate, and have to let myself release when I'm diapered. Actually, when wearing cloth and plastic pants, the bulk tends to be disruptive of sound sleep. Go figure! LOL

I am married, and straight, though I would love to enjoy some additional "play". I would not currently be married to the partner I am married to had I not insisted on revealing my DL side/life/world, and demand it be accepted - for what it was and how I was and am. Once we got beyond that, the relationship continued and matured, and we are now married. It's the ONLY way revelation should be approached if anyone has ANY hope of acceptance and participation, beyond encouragment. Well, that's what MY opinion is, from what I've experienced...

Wear your diapers. Carry your extras. Hold your head up. And, proudly fly, with the same angst and aggravation we all do when we have to deal with the TSA given a small group of terrorists made life miserable for the rest of us, besides killing innocent people. Peeps in our community are all full of guilt, self-loathing and embarassment over diaper desire, wear and use. It's diapers. A legitimate legal product for a legitimate need, and to heck with what anybody thinks about it when people beyond infancy are into them and using them. Flight is a great time for use of disposable products. Diaper pins ARE going to show up on a scan, and will set off a wand, as will the metal snaps in onesies. However, it's not all that convenient to travel with cloth diapers, needing to care for them at the other end, or bringing them back home, used, as part of the returning luggage. Personal choice, toi be sure.

Decadence!

If you wear cloth diapers, it's always best to a least use soaker pads if not double diapers. You can always feel the wetness wick up, and any BMs are nicely trapped. And, you almost always are aware of what you're wearing and normally are paranoid about the bulk being visible. That's half the fun of being diapered in public. The other half is being able to use your diapers and not have to wonder whether you will need a bathroom while you're out or where they are! LOL

So, you're bisexual. If you don't hit on your friend for sex, and totally ruin the friendship by doing so, being bisexual is no big deal. You have to separate friends and sex partners. As far as "coming out", I'll never understand WHY people think they need to tell other people about their AB/DL, well, diaper "thing". It's like Dr. Laura says when confessing a lie you've been hiding, like cheating on a spouse, it may make YOU feel better, but NOW, you've saddled someone you care about with YOUR thing. And, what does your revelation about YOU do to THEM, and then what do they do with YOU regarding that information. If we reveal to make us feel better about ourselves or legitimize what we do that makes us feel different, it is not a positive thing for those around us. People in our "community" simply need to accept themselves for who they are and how they are, and embrace it, knowing that the only thing they are into is choosing (most, anyway, incons excluded) and perhaps, using, a legitimate, legal product - absorbent underwear - diapers - for its intended purpose. It's OUR "thing". So what? Get over the guilt and self-loathing. Enjoy being different!

If being a DL is a vice, and diaper wear/useage is a vice, and if what once were vices are now habits - REO Speedwagon tune - I'm all IN! And, since diapers are a legitimate legal product for a legitimate need, that I choose to wear and use them is MY "thing", and I embrace it wholeheartedly! Diaper on, AB/DL community!

Cloth diapers and plastic pants ROCK! Of course, that's what I was raised in. Half the fun is finding what diapers are out there, what diapers I prefer and what "package" works the best for the useage I put my diapers through!

What it takes is communication. What it takes is disregard of FEAR. You know, it's only DIAPERS, a legitimate legal product for a legitimate need. That some of us CHOOSE to wear and use them, well, it's OUR "thing". We can either spend a lifetime steeped in guilt and self-loathing, or we can buck up and do our thing, accepting ourselves as we are, and embracing the fact we are different than most, and not condemn ourselves for it. For me, I revealed my DL side/life/world early on in our relationship, feeling it was headed somewhere, making sure she had the opportunity to bail out - armed with the truth and reality (my diaper thing) - before a lot of time and emotion was committed to the relationship. That's the way it should be. If a prospective partner cannot accept, tolerate or will not be willing to participate to any degree, better to have loved and lost (kicked to the curb?) and found it out BEFORE committment was made and disappointment needing to be endured. An acceptant partner IS a blessing, indeed. However, most of us, in our community, can do a LOT to further our "cause". We can be up-front. We can be honest. We can be NOT apologetic for being different and having this "thing" in our lives that we deal with, but stimulates us and is a part of us we will NOT be able to hide, put away into an closet OR "forget about". Nor will we NOT feel unfulfilled having to go through life, "for the sake of love", to ignore urges we can't control, and crave, and probably have to indulge ourselves in secret, alone. If you want a diaper side/life/world, only YOU can make it possible. Have guts or don't. It's only diapers, and YOU have to decide how important they are in your life/world/relationships. Oh, and be aware, male or female? Just when you think there can be nobody else for you in your life, and you have to cave in to going back into the closet? You were wrong and didn't have the patience you needed to exhibit. There ARE peeps out there that will take you, and want you, and love you, diapers and all, maybe especially because OF your diapers and being different that way. Are you willing to wait for what CAN come your way?

The thing I hate most about porn is that while I don't seek it out, when I see it, I like it and I get stimulated. Obviously, good or bad porn, that's what it's designed to do, especially to relate to our purient interest in things sexual, living vicariously through others when we cannot have such a situation ourselves. I'm amazed at how I would much rather see a diapered female anymore than say, a Playboy Playmate or Penthouse centerfold. I love women, and naked women, but give me photos of diapered and it's kinda' like "bang, zoom, to the moon"! We all have our own thing...

Product carried depends upon product demand. The premium diapers out there are more carried by specialty companies, like medical supply houses - XP Medical, HDIS, Magic Medical, etal. - because the fact and reality is that Walgreen's, CVS, Rite-Aid, etc. make the best profit on their "house brand" of adult diaper, and most sales are NOT adult "incontience pants", so visibly emblazoned on the package. Peeps just don't belly up to the shelf and grab adult diapers for themselves. People are too embarassed to buy diapers for themselves in public, especially in a place like that, and for the most part, the product is carried more for and emergency-type personal need situation rather than a regular in-store purchase by consumers. The vast majority of product is purchased and delivered by the case. Good luck in trying to talk the local pharmacy into carrying a better brand of diaper. If they do, you'd better be buying a decent quantity on a regular basis to make it to their financial benefit! Um, that's called "capitalism" and "life in the big city"! : )

Oh, if YOU don't react to someone else or someone else's reaction, you'll see how quickly adult diapers, even yours, or even for YOU, becomes a non-issue...

We are our own worst enemies. Geez, our paranoia is incredible. It's only diapers! All the suggestions were great. And, for my two cents, get over your paranoia. If you like diapers, buy 'em, wear 'em, use 'em. They're YOUR diapers and you don't have to explain WHY to anyone, unless you really want to be ridiculous and wear them to the doctor's office for an appointment, like a physical, really hoping to get the nurse or assistant to change your diaper or diaper you. You know, it's OUR thing. Most people are grateful it's not THEM having to deal with diapers as an adult...

You might want to try Sam's Club (maybe Wal-Mart, same chain) or Costco. Sam's has cases of what I think are the old Invacare diaper, last "Maker's Mark", now a new name, for about 25 bucks a case. They're not premium, like Molicare or Abena, but with boost pads - and even those are available at Sam's for a decent price - you can do okay. You need to widen your range for thrift shops. And, it's pretty much WHEN you show up there, you know, the right place at the right time for the right price. I don't give my purchase a second look. The clerk doesn't know who the diapers are for, and if they DID know they were for ME, so what? When you buy like you buy anything else, diapers are just another product being bought. It's WE who tend to attach stigma! : )

If everyone found out, it would be because I told them. And, WHY would I tell them? I wouldn't. They would have had to discover my diapers by accident. But, then, I wear diapers a lot, even though I don't HAVE to and it's by choice. It's MY thing, and it is frequently a sexual thing. And, I don't care. It's MY thing. And, nobody else HAS to know it or about it. Also, it's DIAPERS. Diapers are a legal legitimate product produced for a huge market that seems to dictate a real, legitimate need for the product - EVEN IF some of the product is purchased by those who CHOOSE to wear them. They even continue to produce cloth diapers for adults and plastic pants for adults - to satisfy those that grew up wearing cloth diapers and plastic pants, when that's all there were, and we're still out here - and for those who come to discover, try and appreciate the value and benefits(and whatever down side there may be) to reuseable diaper products. We all spend way too much time immersed in guilt and self-loathing over our diaper fetishism - AB or DL. It's an absorbent underwear. Wear it if you want to and don't if you don't. Use the diaper for its intended purpose of don't. Maybe it's just us old fogies that have come to grips with how we are and what we are into, and are comfortable with it. For me, I'm going to enjoy the rest of my life - just as I already have - diapered when I want to be and fully using them. I wish everybody else would just relax and follow my lead. Our community would have less hung-up folks in it and it might even be easier to connect and have diapered fun together, even if it's just social!

The fact that you chose to research a situation, and ended up at Daily D is fabulous. Too bad your partner didn't have the guts to be up-front and honest about the situation. I mean, fetishism or not, it's only diapers. Diapers are a legitimate legal product produced for a legitimate need. That some CHOOSE to wear and use diapers, when they don't need to, is exactly that - a choice. Given we are also dealing with bodily functions, well, that, in itself creates problems for some. Personally, having had to deal with "revelation", I came to the conclusion that I was going to live my DL side/life/world in secret, on the sly, always afraid of discovery, or just simply be up-front and honest, from the git-go, and take what came. I mean, someone I was beginning to care for could simply tell me I was a creep, sick and not worth any more time, and head off into the sunset, OR, could see beyond my diaper "thing", and love me, diapers and all, which is what my now, third wife has done, even joining me at times, beyond accepting and encouraging me to enjoy MY "thing". I don't impose upon her or anyone else, and I am discreet in public. However, I am NOT into an AB trip, so for me/us, it's just diapers. If you care for your partner, you could have done worse. There could be an axe murderer or serial rapist raging beneath the exterior you see. But, it's diapers. What will happen is what YOU make of it, and how your partner chooses to reveal to you the extent of what they are into. As I said, it could be worse, and it may even piggy-back into some bondage, some humiliation, other things like that. But, you won't know until you can get a revelation, and then decide what to do with the knowledge. You can run away, or you can take any vanilla inclinations you have, cast them to the wind, and have an absolute ball taking this little "chink in the armor", make the best of it, and have FUN with it - and there are SO many ways you can. I will be anxious to see how this thread progresses, and I hope you will keep us informed how things move ahead - or don't....

As often as possible, even when it's not practical. However, there have only been a couple of times when I was totally glad I was diapered as I absolutely could NOT make it to a bathroom and my bowels let go. A rush, to be sure, but a god-send to have been diapered, and totally able to endure the trip home without imposing my situation on anyone else. And, I'm only a DL...

I'd reckon that there would be a very delicate balance between having adult responsibilities and being an AB/DL. And, this is exactly what so many that visit and stay at this site forget. For most of us, incons included, OUR "thing" is exactly OUR "thing", regardless of what it is. Those of us into diapers - a legitimate legal product for a legitimate need, which CAN be made use of by those CHOOSING to - are hardest on ourselves about what we do, and why. Most of us obsess over the fact were into diapers, for whatever reason and how. Those that are most normal and sane DO have adult responsibilities, which also assist in making the AB/DL side/life/world possible and a reality, primarily providing income to procure those items that allow us to "do our thing". For the most part, anymore, I simply say, "It's only diapers!" The diaper thing is MY "thing". I like who I am and how I am. If only others could come to that same comfortable place as I have...

I don't think it really matters what we dream, it's mostly a way for the unconscious mind - and the mind is actually never really asleep - to work through things present on our mind in a way that our conscious mind, full of outside input and interference to focussed thought, cannot. So, for a DL or AB to have diaper dreams, and whatever goes along with it like humiliation or bondage or whatever, it's not out of the realm of you working on you, in the safety of your mind, while within the safety of sleep mode. I think, when we try to read too much into what we remember - and a vast majority of what we dream, we do NOT remember, consciously, when we wake up - it is problematical. And, when we keep dreaming the same dream over and over, I believe, usually, it's something that we simply haven't found the answer to, and we keep working on it, until we do. My opinion, only...

Is it legal? If your tenant agrees to the terms, then you, as landlord, could set the conditions regarding providing free space - most likely only enforceable when the tenant is on the premises. The need to lock the bathroom door(s)? Again, what goes on in YOUR domicile, agreed upon by you and your tenant is up to you. Has it been done before? Probably not. Could it happen? It could, but it's not likely it ever will, given you probably won't ever find a harem of fit, foxy collegiate type females willing to go to the extreme of becoming regularly diapered just for a place to stay. Interesting fantasy, but you can see by the response, the "troll alert" has sounded, and the overwhelming opinion is that no woman in her right mind would even consider something like this, especially given the likelihood that said landlord might give rise to serious concern over the tenant's safety during the contractual period.