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Would the community standards protect you if you were found out? Would your private business in your bedroom not become everyone's business? (if the answer is no did you consent to the publicity of your fetish?). By the way, the anti-drunk driving ad is an ineffective piece to level with since the context is people can die if you drink and drive. People won't die from seeing your fetish. From what I know of community standards (personally), these standards are not there to limit inconvenience in fact I believe inconvenience is being maximized when people are labeled a pedophile for wearing a diaper and baby clothes, labeled inhuman for being gay or labeled a hateful racist for voting for trump in 2016. These labels have no context in reality and are denying the unique diversity of each individual that these community standards are apparently meant to convenience. Wearing specific clothing, preaching a specific message or practicing a specific religion in public isn't "forcing ideas down someone's throats". That would insinuate that these people you are talking about are incapable of holding consistent values themselves and are easy to sway and corrupt. This would also insinuate that the forced values are bad and there values are good. If your more concerned with the "Forcing" than the values then wouldn't it be forcing if you told that preacher on the side of the road to stop preaching? Wouldn't it be forcing to stop me from wearing a red tee-shirt on a Sunday? Sure these analogies are not ABDL, but I find them as arbitrary as wearing a red tee-shirt or preaching because of the unwarranted stigma built off of ignorance. ABDL doesn't = Pedophilia and it never will because these are 2 separate concepts. (may make your bank account break though =3) I have seen a lot of weird things both on campus and in "the real world". Doesn't mean I believe people are forcing there life choices down my throat they are simply practicing there right to free expression. In fact, forcing ideas down people's throats and free speech and expression are also separate concepts and In many ways, these two concepts are mutually exclusive. Now if I walk up to you in my little baby getup and tell you to feed me this bottle to me and cuddle me that is me forcing my ideas but if I was walking down the road and you run to my employer to fire me that is you forcing your ideas. By the way, this isn't about acceptance it is about tolerance. I believe it is unusual to lose your job or connections to your family because of a sexual fetish because I think it is unusual for the same thing to happen because you are gay or having a political view society doesn't like, which isn't society supporting anything. My dad doesn't necessarily "support" ABDL and simply tolerates that is me and when I said in a previous post he is "supporting me", that is what I ment. He is looking past my fetish and seeing his son and he understands what ABDL is. I guess you can say society supports free speech then, but I'm biased in that aspect. I would be like "why wouldn't you support free speech"?

I was diagnosed with aspergers autism when I was 5 (back before it was seen as a spectrum) To be honest I don't notice that much of this diagnosis at this point in my life except for the fact I dislike being around poeple since I can be driven nuts being around large crowds and even conversations with close friends can be exhausting. (Anxiety is a bitch) I dont have the best motor functions but nothing I cant overcome. I have actually gotten pretty good at drawing in spite of my motor functions. I also have to manually learn how to communicate with poeple, which sucks but that means I can always learn something new everyday.

I really appreciate everyone's answers so far and I'm learning from them all! I never faced ostrocization for my fetish. Both my mom and dad never treated me any lesser when I typed up what abdl was on a word document and gave it to them in the living room to read. Now that I'm on a college campus I cant imagine if someone saw me chucking my oversized baby print clothes in the washer that they would see me as a pedophile or degenerate (when 1/4 of the poeple here have blue hair and look like hipsters it's hard to be more weird than that) I guess I understand why poeple have to fight through shame and guilt aswell if you weren't surrounded by poeple who support you as a person. Lol it's just diapers and big baby clothes yet some poeple can't accept it.

Edguy: Theater of Salvation

Not to veer off topic but concepts like death were constructed by god. Not just the actions, but the tools needed to create cruelty even the idea was created by god. On a more personal level, I have always wanted to be apart of a spiritual... thing? with people for a while now so I used to turn to Christians because I respect the sociological effect Christianity has on the family (most of it) and I always found the faith wanting due to potholes like this. It sucks because I could never sign on to atheism, but I could never sign on to any faith with so many inconsistencies especially in morality.

To be honest, if we assume god has a plan that micromanages all things and the means to carry out the plan perfectly then the answer is there is no refutation to predestinationalism. I was talking to a christian friend a few hours ago about death and the afterlife and one of the things he said to me is he doesn't have to worry about anything like that. Because of the framework of his faith there isn't any unknowns. I realized after he was referring to the concept of predestination and the tranquility it brings to some Christians. It seems like Predestination is directly built into the faith and refuting it requires refuting the faith (as far as I know i'm not all that good at this). You will need to build a christian framework in which god doesn't have a plan or isn't all knowing, powerful and omnipresent. P.S sorry for not reading the previous posts before I realized alot of the stuff I covered before were already covered in previous posts.

Not sure If I can help you since you said the philosophy of predestination has brought you no joy, but I will try. #1 seems pretty solid. Thought about for a while but I can accept that. #2 can be debatable depending on the type of god (or gods) you spiritually believe in. Some gods are all knowing, all powerful, all influencing, and omnipresent while other could be simple people like you and I. If you believe that you live in a post-scarcity kardishev 2 civilization where every person has to have a mandatory virtual reality experience of a 21st century life so the people don't become spoiled brats then the god is either the system running the simulation or the person for which the simulation is created and everyone but that person is a bunch of NPCs. In this instance, theirs a change our universe doesn't have an all knowing god (although i'm not sure I could have missed something). Its hard to know anything with 100% accuracy if you are not all-knowing #3 That could be a fair assumption to have. Whenever you draw you start with a blank canvas and you have to micromanage each to make a picture. when you write a song its the same thing (sounds more daunting than it really is I know =3), but theres one thing that each creator I have, including myself, understands; Its not 100% perfect and we see the mistakes. If my assumption from #2 has any validity and there are different kinds of gods then some gods will feel the same way making a human mind. Maybe making a brain and it's psychology is far harder than we take for granted for and god is dissatisfied with half the people created (not that these people arn't wrong god just made a mistake) and these people are your assholes, murderers, rapists, psychopaths even mentally disabled. Sure god controlled the natural aspect but its not what was intended. Maybe the creation is a physics framework and the natural aspect of this is mostly random chance based off the framework of the physics. In this instance god could even have indefinite knowledge to create a really in-depth complicated baseline framework for everything and its completely perfect, but since the whole point of the frame is that it grows on its own after a few interventions (like the big bang) and that it is entirely random there isn't a destiny even if god can predict every outcome all the way to the end since he has indefinite knowledge (wouldn't matter that much anyway with this assumption since the only difference between predestination and a random chance universe with a god that knows all the outcomes is the intention. Maybe if god has predicted 5 different results for one event where a choice is made vs god just makes one of the choices out of the 5.) Hell you can assume god has no intentions and the creation is a fart. =3 #4 requires the assumption of an all knowing and all influencing god. Like I said before if god is an average Joe or the universe is built off of random chance then god does't have full control of nature or full knowledge of the creation. Another thing I thought (that could be thrown into #3) is that god has the power to form and destroy the universe but doesn't have the knowledge of all things or even, somehow, forgot they were god when they threw themselves into there own creation as a form of regression for fun (god may have all the power but no knowledge or influence to use it). #5 Looks like this argument needs a few assumptions from the other arguments to work such as the idea of perfect programming or control. I know I rambled on for a while about this, but it looks like the idea of predestination needs a couple assumptions about the god we are talking about or how the universe is structured. A random chance universe may look predestined if you look at the insane odds required for earth to exist in its current form or how I was born in the 21st century from a c-section and then needed surgery to my stomach after being a few months old because a block in my stomach prevented me from eating (I could have easily failed as a person multiple times yet here I am =)). In a random chance universe people who don't know the future only history and the present look back at the past and are aghast at how coincidental some results are and are convinced it is predestination because it seems too good to be true (not saying random chance is the real belief system just an example). I don't know what to say to besides that there is a massive diversity of different spiritual systems you can adapt and even ones you can make up. I believe you can be spiritual without being religious. So this may sound corny; but you can choose to believe you have choice even if, to a predestinationalist, that sounds insane. If I can't convince you out of predestination then I believe you should still act as if you have free will since even if you have a destination, you have to muddle your way through choices in life where you will feel the effect of those choices even if those choices are illusions. I still grown and bitch about writing papers or selecting classes or applying for jobs even if I'm predestined to a certain outcome because I feel the impact of the choice. And if heaven or hell exists I wouldn't worry about that since your predestined to one of those anyway (I can't see how heaven or hell as moral frameworks exist in a universe where there is no room for choice and therefor morality) Just act like a good person and you will be fine =3. Not sure if this helps "refute" the argument (not even sure if this is even rational XD), but if this philosophy is bringing you dread then why not try to find an alternative?

That's actually quite a substantial consequence if you are working with children. I can see why you would want to keep it a secret.

When it comes to feeling gay and feeling little it kinda goes hand-in-hand for me. When I'm wearing diapers and I'm in my baby clothes I almost feel like a spoiled princess (I'm not a sissy but I used to cross-dress =3). The idea of being constantly pampered and doted on (having all my needs instantly met) makes me feel a tad bit feminine.

So its pretty obvious most people here don't want most people in there lives to know about there ABDL fetish (and any other fetish), but what are some of the real consequences of being found out besides simple social rejection? Topic may come off as out of touch, but I have been wrapping my head around this for a few days trying to find some tangible consequences in society (I live in the US so people are more socially tolerant here). Any Ideas?

These questions are awful. Leave it to buzz-feed to create an awful questionnaire. Some only have answers I don't like. "It's your birthday, how do you celebrate?": I don't and it doesn't mean I get sad either. WHY ISN'T THERE AN ANSWER LIKE THAT REEEEEEEEE This questionnaire is definitely not designed for the introvert. Apparently i'm 42%

I've never put much though into being abdl has made me happy up to this point. I guess I dont really care either if it didnt even cross my mind. My wallet would be happier. Spending 100s on printed thick plastic diapers bibs pacifiers and adult sized baby clothes makes for a sad wallet I probably wouldnt know how to draw since the first thing I wanted was to draw abdl stuff since I wasn't 100% satisfied with just looking at other artists content. My music writing has slightly improved when I started making little techno lullabies. Sometimes I can get addicted to abdl (like a porn addiction since it's mostly sexual for me) and I have to pull myself back and tell myself to do things more productive with my life (draw something nonabdl, play a game, watch youtube, ect. Since I dont have a BF and never had anyone I could ever call a mate the sexual urges just get in the way most of the time. No I dont think I'm happier, but I am a more creative person and if I feel like a sexually repressed loner I can just relieve myself using my fetish. BUT there was this one experience just a few days ago where after showering and shaving and cleaning my room up I got myself into my rearz diaper and baby clothes hugging my huge stuffy and got into bed and just felt a peace as I slept. Not sure if that's little space but I felt like I was high soo...

That would be the most boring show in all of television. Legit nothing super interesting happens in my life.

I'm always late to the party I started! Thanks for all the cool comments I learned a lot from each of these posts. Maybe one day when I get out of college I head down to a dom in maryland and give all this stuff a shot. If not anything else just for curiosity =3.

It is not political. The believe that I accept myself for who I am and take pride in it is something internal. It can be made political by political/religious think tanks, governments, activist groups and academics. It is not inherently political.