r/GirlsinDiapers is transphobic please avoid

[Calli]

[AwakenEvil]

Let's stop the personal attacks. Before you say something stupid about me. Let me remind EVERYONE I was the one that looked into this original report and I was the one that reached out and asked him to leave this thread to you guys n gals. I removed the original post and beyond this point I will start putting on my admin hat. I hate quelling free speech but this is turning into simple attacks against a person that mentioned his position and instead of countering it constructively (besides @minachan16 ) it's turned into typical ad hominem attacks.

[~Brian~]

3 hours ago, AwakenEvil said:

Let's stop the personal attacks. Before you say something stupid about me. Let me remind EVERYONE I was the one that looked into this original report and I was the one that reached out and asked him to leave this thread to you guys n gals. I removed the original post and beyond this point I will start putting on my admin hat. I hate quelling free speech but this is turning into simple attacks against a person that mentioned his position and instead of countering it constructively (besides @minachan16 ) it's turned into typical ad hominem attacks.

@AwakenEvil

I agree with your decision. When I looked at this thread last night, I resisted the temptation to respond, because I’m not sure what I would have responded, but I would probably have responded some thing that it would be ridiculous. Personal attacks are not cool, and I’m glad that you have decided that you gave us the admonition to stop.  Personal attacks against individuals are flaming are not cool, and that is one thing that I will not do.

Brian

[Elfy]

This forum and website is pro-LGBT and is inclusive of all who with an interest in diapers and/or age play. Whether that is non-sexual age play, people with a diaper kink, caregivers, littles who don't wear, wearers who aren't little, sissies, furries, black, white, male, female, rich, poor, right, left or anything else. If you aren't a dick you deserve to be here.

Transphobia is a scourge that is making life miserable for thousands of people. Irradicating transphobia is the next civil rights movement.

If you (anyone who reads this) are insecure enough that you need to post in an LGBT forum how incredibly manly and straight you are to a bunch of people who just do not want to know or care might I suggest a good hard look in the mirror. I feel very sorry to anyone who has enough self-loathing or anger in them that they lash out at vulnerable groups as the only way they can feel better about themselves. Just don't mistake my pity for tolerance.

Trans women and women, trans men are men, non-binary people are valid. Fuck transphobes.

[kasarberang]

I think some people are confusing the topic on whether people are accepted here on DD as opposed to  /r/GirlsinDiapers, which is a Subreddit that the admins and mods of DD have no control over. So speaking about the rules there and speaking about the rules here are entirely different issues.

 

DD is accepting to all types of people, like Elfy said above, but clearly /r/GirlsinDiapers is not. I just want to make sure people are putting the blame on the proper individuals as DD has done nothing wrong in this particular instance as they are not involved in any way.

[Elfy]

15 hours ago, kasarberang said:

I think some people are confusing the topic on whether people are accepted here on DD as opposed to  /r/GirlsinDiapers, which is a Subreddit that the admins and mods of DD have no control over. So speaking about the rules there and speaking about the rules here are entirely different issues.

 

DD is accepting to all types of people, like Elfy said above, but clearly /r/GirlsinDiapers is not. I just want to make sure people are putting the blame on the proper individuals as DD has done nothing wrong in this particular instance as they are not involved in any way.

Whilst DailyDiapers is not affiliated with r/girlsindiapers in the slightest we have our own problems with transphobia. Big problems.

[kasarberang]

4 hours ago, Elfy said:

Whilst DailyDiapers is not affiliated with r/girlsindiapers in the slightest we have our own problems with transphobia. Big problems.

Yes, and that is an issue, I am just saying that I hope individuals don't confuse the actions of r/girlsindiapers with the actions of DD as I've never seen the DD staff take any actions in favor of transphobia.

[Wheels]

On 3/8/2022 at 9:09 PM, minachan16 said:

You could have just kept that to yourself. You didn't need to share it. Do you feel better about telling people you only look at pictures of women in the community as jack-off material? Tell me how it feels to have outed yourself as a creep? We're listening.

There are so many Reddit channels out there with many different intentions. Looking at the intent of /rgirlsindiapers:

About Community

A subreddit for the sharing/linking of pictures, gif's and videos of adult girls wearing diapers. Pornographic in nature, but always 18+! *

It looks as though this channel is claiming it is dedicated to the aspect of providing pornographic material, which like it or not can also be dubbed as "Jack off material". I'm guessing a high percentage of people that frequent the DailyDiapers site possess some level of a sex drive and enjoy to relieve it through masturbation. And many falling into this bracket do not have hangups about it or viewing pornography. For anyone that chooses to use porn while they relieve their urges, we all know that many of us have a specific preference or multiple preferences during that heat of the moment. If we were to use the example of someone that wanted to look at sexy pictures of women during masturbation, anyone that is mature and "views porn responsibly" can do so without narrowly viewing women is only worthy of Jack off material, particularly if the picture was from a source intending to provide such material as /girlsindiapers does. 

If the stated intent of the community said something to the effect of "to provide women a space to discuss issues and share experiences and to provide general support to one another (etc.)", and such a space stated that they did not want any post from transgender women, then I would say that would be transphobic in nature.

I myself have identified on the spectrum of trans since I was a kid, and I've been on HRT since I was 24. The last thing I want to see is discrimination or hostilities toward us or any group. However, when it comes to internet communities providing categories for people to explore and enjoy their sexual preferences within, I understand why there might be specific categories that cater to a certain preference. If I were to state a question in an attempt to draw a parallel, should somebody be deemed a racist if they prefer to have sexual relations or fantasies about a given skin color or ethnic backgrounds while excluding others despite being able to respect and coexist together in normal societal situations?

I think it comes down to the fact is that some people prefer white, some people prefer black, some people prefer cis, and some people prefer trans. Looks like /girlsindiapers intends to provide stimuli for those that prefer cis girls wearing some form of waterproof underwear.

[Elfy]

Then they should name themselves r/cisgirlsindiapers.

Yes, I would consider someone who has a skin colour preference racist if it meant they instantly discounted any relationship with anyone not of their race. This isn't a "I like all girls but I have to admit I prefer white women" situation, it is a "I like girls but only if they're white. If they are anything else I immediately discard them." If r/girlsindiapers decided that they suddenly only wanted white women it would be called racist.

Bearing in mind the nature of the fetish and the crotch being covered there's not really any risk of even seeing a penis which apparently would be too much for the more puritanical among us.

It also brings into light one of the old staples of transphobes everywhere: "you can always tell." You can't always tell and if you are masturbating even semi-frequently to pictures of girls in diapers I guarantee you have been doing it to trans girls before. There's SO MUCH trans girl representation in this fetish it is improbable that you've never had your hand down your diaper unknowingly looking at a trans girl.

[Wheels]

5 minutes ago, Elfy said:

Then they should name themselves r/cisgirlsindiapers.

Yes, I would consider someone who has a skin colour preference racist if it meant they instantly discounted any relationship with anyone not of their race. This isn't a "I like all girls but I have to admit I prefer white women" situation, it is a "I like girls but only if they're white. If they are anything else I immediately discard them." If r/girlsindiapers decided that they suddenly only wanted white women it would be called racist.

Bearing in mind the nature of the fetish and the crotch being covered there's not really any risk of even seeing a penis which apparently would be too much for the more puritanical among us.

It also brings into light one of the old staples of transphobes everywhere: "you can always tell." You can't always tell and if you are masturbating even semi-frequently to pictures of girls in diapers I guarantee you have been doing it to trans girls before. There's SO MUCH trans girl representation in this fetish it is improbable that you've never had your hand down your diaper unknowingly looking at a trans girl.

I agree with the idea of the name change, I thought of that as well as I was thinking about this. 

In the skin color example I provided, notice I had mentioned in the second part of the clarification to a hypothetical preference "...despite being able to respect and coexist together in normal societal situations." My example is supposed to be somewhere along the lines of a person liking all girls in general, but sexually they prefer <insert preference here>.

I'm still not so sure though that r/girlsindiapers is transphobic in the sense that some are implying. I didn't see them say anywhere that anyone identifying as trans can't post comments or opinions on content shared in that Reddit, it's just seems more along the lines of not posting trans girls wearing diapers. But again to agree with your opening line, it might save many people the understandable frustration this leads to if they were to rename themselves r/cisgirlsindiapers.

[kasarberang]

On 3/13/2022 at 5:37 PM, Elfy said:

Then they should name themselves r/cisgirlsindiapers.

On 3/13/2022 at 5:56 PM, Wheels said:

But again to agree with your opening line, it might save many people the understandable frustration this leads to if they were to rename themselves r/cisgirlsindiapers.

Once a sub is created, you cannot simply rename it, you'd have to make an entirely new Subreddit with the new name and just say goodbye to your current backlog of posts and community, with the hopes of getting them to move to the new sub for the sake of a 3 letter change. So, changing the name is not so simple. One might argue that "they should have had that name to begin with" or "they should have thought of that when making the sub", but this rule is new and was probably not even considered upon the creation of the sub.

[PlstkBakdnghtnday]

I just have one thing to say...what is "cis"?

[ValentinesStuff]

1 hour ago, PlstkBakdnghtnday said:

I just have one thing to say...what is "cis"?

A prefix that means "on the same side of." So cisgender is someone that is on the same side as their assigned birth gender.

[Lyra]

Riley made a excellent video on this topic

[Garbo]

No one is saying trans people cannot post, comment, or otherwise engage on the sub. This is all about preferences on what amounts to a porn site. I don't think recognizing fundamental differences is hateful or bigotry. I have no issues with trans men and women and do not believe in discrimination. I also believe trans adults should be able to live their lives in a manner that pleases them. 

However, I do think it's ridiculous that people on this thread are labeling others as "transphobes" simply for stating their preferences. If someone isn't turned on by pics of trans girls, that doesn't make them a bigot. Hell, I'd say even if those types of pics turn you off you aren't a so-called transphobe! Why? Because if you treat that person with respect, then you aren't being hateful! There are plenty of things I don't find attractive or which actually turn me off and that doesn't mean I'm hateful towards it.

This is honestly a simple concept that's been twisted into something it isn't. 

 

 

[ValentinesStuff]

1 hour ago, Garbo said:

No one is saying trans people cannot post, comment, or otherwise engage on the sub. This is all about preferences on what amounts to a porn site. I don't think recognizing fundamental differences is hateful or bigotry. I have no issues with trans men and women and do not believe in discrimination. I also believe trans adults should be able to live their lives in a manner that pleases them. 

However, I do think it's ridiculous that people on this thread are labeling others as "transphobes" simply for stating their preferences. If someone isn't turned on by pics of trans girls, that doesn't make them a bigot. Hell, I'd say even if those types of pics turn you off you aren't a so-called transphobe! Why? Because if you treat that person with respect, then you aren't being hateful! There are plenty of things I don't find attractive or which actually turn me off and that doesn't mean I'm hateful towards it.

This is honestly a simple concept that's been twisted into something it isn't. 

 

 

That's a relief. Of course, being asexual, I'm also not turned on by pics of transmen, ciswomen, cismen, or anything in a diaper.

[Lyra]

On 8/30/2022 at 8:31 PM, Garbo said:

No one is saying trans people cannot post, comment, or otherwise engage on the sub.

 Why? Because if you treat that person with respect, then you aren't being hateful!

 

 

Except by saying trans women aren't women which they are doing by not including them then you're not being respectful you're being quite the opposite.

As for engaging with the sub I tested this when this grease pit first came to my attention, I posted a couple picture one of myself and another of a cis friend with her permission (unlike most pics on that site but that's another point) and both posts got taken down almost instantly both flagged for breaking the trans rule. Now neither post was tagged in anyway as being trans or lgbt but my reddit profile does follow several trans and lgbt subs, so I can only assume that is the reason the posts were taken down. Meaning quite explicitly that I cannot engage with the sub.

It's not about an individual's "preference" it's about exclusion with in our community, a community that has a very high percentage of trans members, around 10% of ABDL's are trans. The reason I made this thread two years ago, and to think I'm still having to explain this is exhausting. Was to say to our community, hey let's do better, because if you're looking at a girl in a diaper 9 time out of 10 you'll have have no idea if they're cis or trans.

I can guarantee that everyone who's posted proudly proclaiming their straightness and that "they've never liked a trans person in porn" that you super duper have. There a heck of a lot of absolutely gorgeous trans people both in our kink and porn in general, Natalie Mars is of course the first to come to mind. Who I recommend everyone checks out and BUYS some of her work.

So to sum up, excluding trans people from posting is both disrespectful aka transphobic, our community can and should do better, and there's a good chance you've jerked off to a trans girl so get over yourselves.