So The End Of The World Is December 21?

[sarah_ab]

oh my god i love you! did you just say i have sex appeal? lol....

if you ever see me, you will understand why i find that amazing.. i have no sex appeal! except to my daddy!

[ForbiddenFruit]

He's saying you have it easy because you're a woman.

[sarah_ab]

haha i know because women have always had it sooo easy what with being raped and married off and that whole glass ceiling and still not getting equal pay for equal work. and not getting promoted etc etc yep us women have it sooo easy.... never any violence against us!!!

[Rihanna]

......P.S. I once read that over half the cops in US of A that get killed by gunfire, are shot with their own gun.

False and undocumented Urban Legend. Even including suicide w/their service weapons, it nowhere approaches that number. Same debunking of the anti-gun claims that having guns in home means you are highly likely to be shot w/one of your guns. False!

[ForbiddenFruit]

haha i know because women have always had it sooo easy what with being raped and married off and that whole glass ceiling and still not getting equal pay for equal work. and not getting promoted etc etc yep us women have it sooo easy.... never any violence against us!!!

I said that's what he meant. I didn't say I agreed.

[diapered1964]

I plan on partying starting on the 20th and if the world does not come to a end on the 21st I will have to remove my soaked diapers, shower and go to work on the 22nd like always.

Party till my diapers drop or the 22nd come, which ever happens first.

[Wet Knight]

I said that's what he meant. I didn't say I agreed.

SO ? which are you? GOD or a phychiatrist, that you know what I meant to say.

Just joking

P.S. Don't forget to set your clocks to Myan mean - time on friday 21st December, Don't want to miss the end of the world!

[square_duck]

Keeping things on track....3 more days left...are you ready??? stocked up on food water and lots and LOTS of ammo??

bring it on! if anything it will be a unique experiance, a truly once in a life time event!

or just nothing like the Y2K bug thing that never happened...

Anyways, the 21st is a Friday, and I'll be at work that night, unless something happens at 12:01 am that morning, then I guess I don't have to worry

So hang in there, and remember it's an energy and awareness/ perception shift, and any physical destruction that happens we do to ourselves. Be aware and keep positive, things will just get worse in an attempt to drag down the building positive energy into the negative. Stuff like what happened in Connecticut (unfortunatly) will happen again and probably be worse.

Things happen for a reason...know that reason and don't buy into the negative side...It maybe a rough ride for a while but there is a light at the end of the tunnel and things will be much much much better afterwards.

Hang in there

[Bettypooh]

The light at the end of the tunnel is attached to the oncoming train

Bettypooh

[ForbiddenFruit]

Makes a change from "to save on the national debt, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off".

Looking at a photo of my college campus at night as I type that, funnily enough. WHY DO SO MANY COLLEGES LEAVE LIGHTS ON OVERNIGHT?!

[sarah_ab]

I said that's what he meant. I didn't say I agreed.

lol it was sarcasm sorry....

[musicaddict]

Would have been nice if the end of the world could have happened before finals.

If it happens, I'll be having a word with the "Powers That Be" about that. If not, then I'll just sleep in like I do every saturday and not notice the difference for a few hours.

[Rihanna]

......are you ready??? stocked up on food water and lots and LOTS of ammo?? ....

Stuff like what happened in Connecticut (unfortunatly) will happen again and probably be worse. .....

Hang in there

Food & water stocks are good. Gas for generator is adequate for days, should get more. Conondrum... are 10 to 20 thousand rounds of each caliber and/or shot size too many, too little, or just average? :-)

Agree that it will happen again, probably worse, the next one will try to top it, as I comment in next paragraph. One thing about school murders is to look up the 1927 Bath Michigan school bombings that took out almost twice as many students and adults.

Don't really want to get into CT issues, but have to make a couple observations. Primary is that news orgs have to NEVER publish the shooter's name. It is an "I'm going to be famous" legacy for those losers, DO NOT give them that recognition. In CT, was mom irresponsible for not keeping firearms locked up or did he 'break into' their storage. Principal, psycologist, and (physcal[?]) therepast were the first three to encounter him and lost their lives trying to subdue him. What if they had been armed and negated him immediately? 26 kids and adults could still be alive! These people attack schools, churches/synogouges, malls etc because THEY KNOW THERE WILL BE NO ARMED RESISTANCE!

[wetman]

Food & water stocks are good. Gas for generator is adequate for days, should get more. Conondrum... are 10 to 20 thousand rounds of each caliber and/or shot size too many, too little, or just average? :-)

...

10.000 is OK in .223 for your M416, but way to few in 7.62x51 for the compact gatling gun. I would limit it to about 1.000 rounds each in .357 , .45ACP and 9mm Parabellum, too much bother reloading all the time.

Oh, 12 Ga Mag: 500 each of #2 Buckshot and Brenneke 'Dangeous Game' Slugs might be a good idea, too.

EDIT: I somehow feel that I should mention that this is NOT a serious recommendation but a sarcastic hyperbole. While I have my own opinion about gun laws*, there's some trigger-happy nuts out there that I really don't want to meet.

* Spoons made me fat!

[Guest]

I prefer my crossbow with venomous arrows, you can survive a gunshot, but there is no known anti venom for the rough skin newt (native to my area). As far as end of the world supplies, I've got plenty of arrows, newts, fishing gear, camping gear, and a stock pile of chili. I live close to a store, and less than a mile from ab universe, so if I am the last guy standing, I'll be able to live life as usual for at least a year, but, unfortunately, nothing is going to happen, the Mayans just ran out of ink when they got to 12/21/2012

[ForbiddenFruit]

[square_duck]

10.000 is OK in .223 for your M416, but way to few in 7.62x51 for the compact gatling gun. I would limit it to about 1.000 rounds each in .357 , .45ACP and 9mm Parabellum, too much bother reloading all the time.

Oh, 12 Ga Mag: 500 each of #2 Buckshot and Brenneke 'Dangeous Game' Slugs might be a good idea, too.

Damn...I'm a few short in the .45 category....guess I have to order more as I only bought a brick of 500

[Bettypooh]

Ammo? I have enough, and it's far less than these numbers The first thing you learn in advanced on-the-ground infantry tactics is that you can't hold ground for long unless you have adequate manpower and support for the duration of the attack (read forever here). In the meantime, your opponent will be building forces and placing you under siege, encircling you so you can't escape So you're going to have to move back at some point, it is only a question of when. And when you do, you will likely be in a big hurry. So how are you going to carry all your stuff with you? Or are you going to leave it behind for the attackers who will have overwhelming numbers sooner or later?

I used to have enough to equip a rifle squad on hand- not anymore! I have enough for me and one more- I can carry that and all I need to bug out with. Where I'll be going there is more waiting of everything. And when that place gets too hot I can still make it to the next place- and all of this on foot if need be, which by that time will probably be the only safe or possible way to travel The survivors in an on-the-ground battle are the mobile ones- those who cannot move always lose in the end (see Von Clausewitz). Dien Bin Phu is an example of this, where a rag-tag force took on a much superior force and won just because they had time, they controlled the perimeter, and the French could not move away. The proper tactics wins long engagements, not superior firepower Short term fixed engagements only buy you time, they do not bring an end victory. Your brain is your best weapon, and if used correctly will keep you alive longer than any amount of guns and ammo will

Bettypooh

[sarah_ab]

mmmm oreos!!!

[Bettypooh]

Sarah, I have a few extra rounds of Oreos if you run short

Bettypooh

[ForbiddenFruit]

I sure hope it doesn't happen. I just spent €28 on a goose for Christmas.

[willnotwill]

Tonight I'm going to party like it's 1999.

[ForbiddenFruit]

UPDATE: It's been the 21st in Taiwan for half an hour now

[Wet Knight]

and sarahab, you realy realy think its wise to let the government take guns from law abiding citizens? believe me it will have zero affect on criminals, africa has the strictest gun laws of the world, boy there sure are safe over there arent they? yup no gun crimes at all! for another example schools already have a federal ban on firearms on the premises, guess someone forgot to tell that to the shooter, whats more all it will do is make it so that anyone that does continue to have a firearm BECOMES a criminal after all if its a crime to have a gun then you are a criminal for having one, the amount of armed criminals skyrockets with such a law, at least with legal possession of firearms they can be considered law abiding and we can then expect them to continue to abide by them,

the amount of armed criminals skyrockets, the amount of law abiding armed citizens hits ZERO, think about this for a minute, just let it sink right in, ask yourself if this sounds safer the amount of armed criminals skyrockets, the amount of law abiding armed citizens hits ZERO,

so lets see you think the government will protect you if they can take your guns? thatll make you more safe? the governments who murder thousands of children every year in sensless wars and drone strikes overseas, you trust THEM?!

and your observation that you have survived thus far without owning a weapon at all, ever think maybe the fact so many around you DO own weapons might have something to do with it? good thing they havnt needed to use em, yes believe that every day you are in the presence of concealed carry citizens, the odds support it, unless you lock yourself inside your home all day every day.

the saying goes better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it,

and in response to your sarcastic know it all tone regarding this issue

http://www.theblaze....ith-one-bullet/

boy it sure is a bad thing that off duty sheriff was carrying a concealed weapon, as a citizen (when off duty you are bound by the same law as citizens regarding firearm possession, a ban on firearms would have had that off duty sheriff defensless) i mean its not like he saved lives in that movie theater by being armed oh noooo not at allllll

oh btw, that same morning as the sandy hook shooting there was a stabbing at an elementary school in china

http://worldnews.nbc...s-in-china?lite

22 children stabbed, boy it sure is a good thing guns are banned in china i mean that sure did keep those children safe from the crazy people now didnt it? i mean its better safe being dead by knife wound then to be unsafe dead from bullet wound, what a BIG FUCKIN DIFFERENCE, now all they gotta do is ban knives, yup, let government take all the sharp pointy objects and just wrap our world in bubble wrap, we need big mommy police state government to protect us from the bad items so we can be carefree RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT?????

btw hitler also banned all firearm possession, hmmmm i wonder why...... perhaps so his citizenry had no choice but to bow down bend over and take it up the ass, after all what good was the populace's knives against their guns and tanks...... boy it sure is a good thing germany banned weapons, that sure kept them safer didnt it? another ironic coincedence, germany was also in a self professed war against terrorism, how funny, just what are the chances of that.....

in a society were no one is defenseless only the nonagressor survives, and they thrive,

the more guns carried by moral law abiding citizens, the more chances we have of killing the non moral law breaking criminals in the moment when they attempt to bring harm to others, government and police will never protect you, they can only show up to the scene after the damage has already been done, protect yourself,

whats more i cant believe we would even have to have such an arguement regarding americans freedom to possess a material item, for fear of what it might be used for? what the fuck ever happened to freedom? you know all those rights that the soldiers have supposedly been fighting and loosing lives to protect? this is one of those!!

so that ole saying "i may not agree with your opinion but ill fight to protect your right to say it" since when did that stop being applied to all the rights of this REPUBLIC<

people act like america is a democracy were we can just choose to throw this RIGHT away here and there when we become convinced its wise to do, WRONG

this is a republic for a reason, the constitution, bill of rights, declaration of independence, are meant to superseed any and all other law or popular opinion, it doesnt matter if the majority begins to disagree with them they are the bases of a republic not a democracy,

the pursuit of happiness constitues having no ill effect or harm on anothers life liberty or property,

if you support for them to take guns from people who do not use them to harm anothers life liberty or property,

then YOU ARE HARMING THEIR LIBERTY TO PROPERTY,

and your opinion that the 2nd ammendmendt was created to aid us a gainst the british, lol, this just shows your ignorance while your tone shows your arrogance

Thomas Jefferson

• No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
  • Proposed Virginia Constitution, June, 1776.

• The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, ... or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press.

yes he is saying that if you are debarred the use of arms then you are NOT FREE

John Adams

• Here every private person is authorized to arm himself, and on the strength of this authority, I do not deny the inhabitants had a right to arm themselves at that time, for their defense, not for offence.

James Madison

• The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for the common liberties and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the late successful resistance of this country against the British arms will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments of the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
  • Federalist No. 46 (1788).

• In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.
  • Federalist No. 51 (February 8, 1788).

on that last note let me add

“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!

[ForbiddenFruit]

FYI, all the kids that were stabbed in China survived...none of the kids that were shot in Connecticut did.

The problem, though, isn't just the availabity of guns, it's more down to gun culture.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/scott/bushmasters-shockingly-awful-man-card-campaign

You have more than double the UK's murder rate per 100,000 people. In 2002, it was more than eight times. America, fuck yeah.