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Sorry for the lack of updates on the main site, been a very busy week with the home renovations. Bathroom crew is here again today, so not getting anything done like I had hoped. Tomorrow should be quiet, but have errands that need running so no clue how far I will get. Should only be another couple weeks before things get back to normal here.

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The bathroom crew should be in diapers knowing that they won't have use of the facility.

I am!

Step-dad has made ten trips out to find a toilet in 2 days, lol

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Actually, you could probably usie the down time to think about remedelling Daily Diaper. It is becoming a victim of its success

1. The product review section could be subdivided and tightened up. It is large to the point of being unwieldy like bringing a couch in trhough a doorway. You could certainly start by dividing between paper and cloth diapers, and pants. You could probably subdivide among the paper diapers. The generally reconginzed page size limit is 5 screens. The product review is many times that. Also, the categories are a bit confusing. I was thinking of doing a review of the Comco snap on panties but could not find a way.. I have done that several times with RUFFLES & RIBBONS GRISL' HOME as it grew and became more interactive. I do not even want to think about what DD must cost so you need to make it more efficient to get the most grab for the groat

2. AB owned. I still have the template I set up. You mentioned that the forum host had provisions for that, but I have not seen anything.. I could zip the template and ship it to you. and you could put it in the main site with the links. I organized it by categories in the same manner as the old DPF and Bytemine links sections. DPF also had for each site a rating system. (RUFFLES & RIBBONS GIRLS' HOME was in the top 40% at DPF and a girls' "reference nursery" at Bytemine/Wetville). This might be especially intersting since DD does some webhosting

These would make the site easier to use and expand the range

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Except for some trim work the bathroom is done. They tore out our tub and replaced it with a walk-in shower with bench. Replaced the sick and vanity.

I just finished laying down new tile on the floor.

As for the site suggestions: Real problem is that I am about at the limit of my skills. I'm not a programmer, so I've had to rely on the help of others for the reviews script. Technically disposable and reusable products are separate but people have been submitting wrong.

ABOwned needs a dedicated webmaster. Someone who can clean it up and make working submission forms. Would love to fins someone with the skills to take it over.

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You mean you are not a programmer? and you have put together a site of this quality? Tell me I am hallucinationg!

I just can NOT wait until my eye is back in proper order and I can read again. I have a Javacript textbook that I am dying to get into and them will take on the other programming languages. I love to program and have for the last 30 years in BASIC with an old TRS 80 model I Level II BASIC. I have a Visual C++ Microsoft Studio. Does that mean I have the ability to program?

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Sorry for the lack of updates on the main site, been a very busy week with the home renovations. Bathroom crew is here again today, so not getting anything done like I had hoped. Tomorrow should be quiet, but have errands that need running so no clue how far I will get. Should only be another couple weeks before things get back to normal here.

Wait a minute--the D.D. moderator is remodeling a bathroom? What's next, Bill Gates using an Apple computer?

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Wait a minute--the D.D. moderator is remodeling a bathroom? What's next, Bill Gates using an Apple computer?

Notice my description said nothing about the potty :)

...technically that is because I love the toilet we have. A Crane Bigfoot. Little taller and wider than standard ones. Very comfortable to use... I hate little toilets now!

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As for the site suggestions: Real problem is that I am about at the limit of my skills. I'm not a programmer, so I've had to rely on the help of others for the reviews script. Technically disposable and reusable products are separate but people have been submitting wrong.

ABOwned needs a dedicated webmaster. Someone who can clean it up and make working submission forms. Would love to fins someone with the skills to take it over.

I think I have the answer

Free for all Links

These let the visitor put in her own links. I used a couple on some early sites I had. Some of these even let you arrange by category (in this case; DL, LG, Sissy, Commercial, etc)

I recommend to avoid Bravenet. THey are a very good service but not adutl-friendly. You might prefer to use a script rather than a service unless you know the service provider to be adult-friendly. You might also use sites that offer javascripts by programmers who want to show off, such as Javascrip Source. Earhweb or the like. I have gotten some very good non-ab things at these places

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F4A links is not a good solution for that site. ABOwned is specifically for DL-operated businesses and an open links list would get flooded with porn-owned and off-topic stuff. The moderation it would need would take more time than a closed system where sites are screened and added.

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I just can NOT wait until my eye is back in proper order and I can read again. I have a Javascript textbook that I am dying to get into and them will take on the other programming languages. I love to program and have for the last 30 years in BASIC with an old TRS 80 model I Level II BASIC. I have a Visual C++ Microsoft Studio. Does that mean I have the ability to program?

You must really like programming. I had some fun with JAVA. JAVA derives much of its syntax from C++ so learning it could be easy for you.

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I go back to the TRS-80 Model I Level II BASIC (A derivative of FORTRAN). It is where Microsoft came up big before they got inot IBM-DOS

Tje C's look like they come from Passcal which is a derivative of ALGOL (ALGOrithmic Language). 25 years ago I learned COBOL PASCAL and RPG II/III. in 1968 I learned the ridiments of FORTRAN IV but did not have a machine to practice on

What language is FireFox written in.? If I get carried away, what about a browser named Tiara?

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Yeah, FORTRAN. I had an old professor in college that wanted us to solve some problems using this programming language. It took half an hour just to enter a simple calculation.

I only worked with the core language and not the scripts, so I don't know anything about the programming in the software, but that information is available on Wikipedia if you want to know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox

Like I said, I had a little fun with JAVA, but it is not my area of expertise.

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As for the site suggestions: Real problem is that I am about at the limit of my skills. I'm not a programmer, so I've had to rely on the help of others for the reviews script. Technically disposable and reusable products are separate but people have been submitting wrong.

If we're talking about the reviews section on DailyDaipers, I'd be more than happy to rewrite it or help others with that same goal (I'm sure others would willing to volunteer too).

It would be nice to be able to...

  • Filter diapers by things such as type (disposable/not), tab-style, backing material, available sizes, absorbency (if applicable), countries with 'local' stockists etc.

  • Have some consistency around the information displayed for each product and a way of normalising the product names.

  • Have tagged pictures where available - ordered/filterable by the product alone, packaging, etc.

  • Some way of flagging or reviews as "valuable/useful"

  • A consistent rating scheme for all users (and ideally a basic way of assessing what weight to apply to a rating*).

  • Links back to the manufacturer's site/information if possible.

We've already got a decent amount of information required to seed the system with - and with community involvement I'm sure it would not take long to get a pretty comprehensive and robust site in place. This might be a rip and replace job - I really don't know what state the existing data is in quality wise (well ok it looks pretty poor, but I expect some products like Abri-Form and Bambino's have some reviews/pictures/etc. which are pretty good - others much less so).

Anyway - the offer is out there. What do others think?

Bootnote: I'm competent with most web technologies to a pretty reasonable level. C, Java, PHP, Perl, JavaScript and others on the programming/scripting side; XML, RDF, (X)HTML, CSS, ATOM/RSS and such on the presentation/mark-up/interchange side and the usual back-end storage systems (flat file, XML/SQL and object databases, HADOOP etc.). I expect we have a few others about these forums with similar skills - there might even be one or two proper web application or software developers here.

*: This latter part is there because I see a lot of reviews/ratings from people not really in a position to credibly compare them to the market. If you've only ever used one brand/type of diaper, I'd like to suggest we value the ratings from that user less than one who, for example, has tried 5 or more brands. Of course how this happens in practice is open for discussion - maybe have two ratings shown, maybe weight a users ratings, maybe not do it all, etc. etc. - but you get the idea I hope.)

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I hope this is not just confined to paper diapers. Even with those a screen listing would be so long as to be almost useless

It might also be a good idea to put paper, cloth and panties in separate categories. Since it appears that there id quitge an interest in baby/toddler/childrens' items, you might need a category for those. A skilled person can use cloth baby diapers to make adult diapers

Things I find missing in panty reviews are materials used. the measurements like crotch width at the narrowest part and the lenght at the shortest part (sode of the leg to waist) also a good meausurement would be "fullness" aka hip size over the bulkiest diaper that it was meant to be used with. Finally the texture of the material both inside and outsie (very smooth, smooth, lightley textured, grainy, like cloth)

Also, there is the question of new items. I wanted to do a review of the Comco snap on panty but was unable to set up a new topic

As to "valuable" reviews, I agree. I amean how good is a review that says "Great panty" and just fills in the parameters like "noise" etc

Rather than "absorbancy" you might want to express it in terms of "capacity" or how many wettings (full, small or full+small) it can take before it is time to change.

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I hope this is not just confined to paper diapers.

Agreed - I don't see any reason to limit it to certain styles.

Rather than "absorbancy" you might want to express it in terms of "capacity" or how many wettings (full, small or full+small) it can take before it is time to change.

There is a lot of hidden complexity in this - mainly as a 'wetting' is not a standard measurement. We would need to create (possibly consistent) definitions for this. If you class a 'wetting' as Xmls (you could have more than one), then surely we can simply divide the products max and working capacities by these values to get estimates. Of course, we then rely on reviews to tell us how they actually perform under these circumstances.

My point is that this thinking can be done later - if we get the go-ahead to actually do it. Do others think its actually worth doing?

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PMed you Zander, would love it if you took over the project, great ideas!

And yes, I want it to include cloth diapers as well as covers and pads, etc. Any absorbent or waterproof garments

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Agreed - I don't see any reason to limit it to certain styles.

There is a lot of hidden complexity in this - mainly as a 'wetting' is not a standard measurement. We would need to create (possibly consistent) definitions for this. If you class a 'wetting' as Xmls (you could have more than one), then surely we can simply divide the products max and working capacities by these values to get estimates. Of course, we then rely on reviews to tell us how they actually perform under these circumstances.

My point is that this thinking can be done later - if we get the go-ahead to actually do it. Do others think its actually worth doing?

Not only are there complexities, but nature sides with the hidden flaw

I am pretty sure that there exist uoroligical measures and standards. accounting for height and weight that are averages. Beyond that we also talk about dribbles, flooding and other terms that make the distinction. That is why I included "capacity" that in the US is given in ounces so a ml to oz conversion is in order

One thing I forgot to mention in regards to panty construction is thick or thin, or if you can get it more exactly, mil I would say that anything under 3 mil is thin and 5 or over is thick. Thin material tend to tear at the waist and leg bands or whereever it is swen and really should be reinforced at those areas as well as the panty should be extra full-cut to take the pressure off stress points

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