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I think some of you watch way too much TV. The ideas presented here that all police officers are power-tripping assholes is a bit out of touch with reality. While I don't deny that it happens, and I don't know anything about your particular area, I do know a lot of cops. Most of them are good people, and to pigeonhole them thus is unfair. In fact, I believe it's on par with the people who want to call us perverts, freaks, child molesters, and what have you. It's blatantly untrue, and unfair to the good people out there.

If the police pulled you over, they had a reason. Most cruisers have cameras in them now, so they'll be asked to provide some sort of physical evidence. No, you don't have to consent to a search, but they will find ways to detain you if you don't cooperate. They do these stops because, as someone said, real criminals are idiots, and tend to drive like idiots. By pulling people over for broken taillights, rolling through stop signs, and other seemingly minor transgressions they make a lot of arrests on outstanding warrants. Unfortunately, innocent people get caught up in this too, and by being belligerent to the guys who are after much bigger fish than you, you aren't making their job any easier.

I'll get off my soapbox now, and I don't think I'll be returning to this thread because it's pissed me off so much.

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I think some of you watch way too much TV. The ideas presented here that all police officers are power-tripping assholes is a bit out of touch with reality. While I don't deny that it happens, and I don't know anything about your particular area,

Not worth taking the risk.

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You are totally missing the point. We do not live in a police state where law enforcement can do unreasonable searches. You think nothing can happen to you? How about NY Candy stop?

The point is not whether you are innocent or guilty. The point is, it never helps you to cooperate with authorities in this way. Even innocent people get caught up in aggressive police tactics. This is about protecting the Constitution from the continued erosion by Obamanation socialism and Republicant naredowells- every time you sign your 4th amendment right over without question, you make it weaker and the police state becomes stronger. The Bill of Rights needs to be protected and this means standing up for it at all times, lest it become meaningless.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Know it and live it, the future of America depends on it.

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Sadly all my experiences with the police have been negative. The ones I've had the pleasure of dealing with are the typical power tripping overly suspicious douchebags that everyone talks about. I've never had an officer request to search my vehicle... but I probably would make them get a warrant if they wanted to, and I'd be on the phone with a lawyer the whole time.

I believe we are coming to a point where the government and police have been given way too much power over our individual lives. Take the new law to try and protect against illegal immigrants in Arizona... now anyone who looks like they might be illegal can be stopped on the street and asked to present ID. I don't know about any of you, but that shocks me... and I'm a white American. If anyone really wanted to stop illegal immigration they would build a big wall to span the entire border and be done with it.

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You are misunderstanding the law - you have the media soundbite version which is incorrect. The Arizona law says that the cops already needed to have a reason to stop you other than to check papers - they can't question you just because they think you might be illegal. It just says that if they do stop you, they also need to check documentation of being here legally. Also, it has not been signed into law - yet.

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Been stopped late at night in one town bishop Calif about 6 times and all 6 times the cop was hidden back in the same grocery store parking lot. they tell me the same thing every time. "we stopped you because you were weaving"

I know about this hideout they use after the first time i was stopped and if i was carrying any thing i would have used back roads to get around town.

Its become a running joke to tell the cops that i have known and watch for then every time i go through town.

They only searched my car the first time.

And the last time when the cop looked at my drivers license he made the comment "not you again"

and yes i was diapered.

I learned to carry my drivers license in my volunteer fire department ID case with its badge and id card.

I rarely get a ticket and never have got one from these bishop cops.

They can search any time. If i was going to carry a few joints they would be in a magnetic spare key box stuck under the car where i could claim i did not know anything about them. And no DNA would help as i would not lick the papers when i roll them.

I could get a medical pot card but i am disabled and it cost to much for the doctor and the card.

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I've been stopped several times by cops. A few have asked to search my car and I've declined.

One night long ago, I pulled over and waited for the cop to catch up. I locked the car up before sitting on the fender. He rolled in like I was a felon with 20 questions. He wanted to look in the car and told him he could see what he could see through the windows. He shined his flashlight all around and got fingerprints on my windows.

Now, you might ask what I had and why I pulled over? I was 19, roaring down the road in a hot rod, ABOUT to do something vehicularly stupid but caught sight of the cop just in time. I never exceeded the speed limit but I was loud at high RPM. It sounded like I was doing 70 but it was only 35. The cop eyeballed me hard as he passed me, slammed on the brakes and made a U-turn. I pulled in to the first parking lot and secured the vehicle. The only thing even remotely questionable about my car? I had a legally owned and legally stored handgun in the glove compartment.

In the end, he had nothing on me. Even radar wouldn't have registered a violation and I was as sober as a baptist minister. He had no choice but to let me go without so much as a warning.

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Didn't you say in a previous post that you scope your rifle on people who come onto your property? Just because someone has a badge doesn't necessarily make them any less of an intruder.

No. I said that I use my rifle scope to shoot skunks or snakes that come into the yard and get the dogs riled up, so's to be out of spraying/striking range. It's perfectly legal to do so, here. I've also said that I would shoot someone if they break into my house. You seem to have gotten those things mixed up. Like any truly serious gun owner, I follow the "don't aim it at anything you don't intend to kill" rule.

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Well, the UK has citizens that were granted privileges by the crown. The Americans denounced the process, fought for freedom as free citizens with liberty and have been giving it up ever since. I wish to reverse this trend, personally.

My mother raised me and I don't need a nanny state providing for my basic needs. I need a federal government to provide national defense. Other than that, they are wasting my money on non-constitutional crap. State and local government should provide civil protection services (fire/police).

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last summer, i got arrested by painting graffiti on the train-line... well, they searched my body, and put me in the handcuffs, and drove me into jail for the night... the thing was, i had tena comforts on me that time... a bit nervous if they'd found out about that. :D

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I've been lucky, but BabyMaggie isn't part Irish like me :) We both work on a military installation and ever since 9/11, the military police have the right and duty to randomly search vehicles entering the base. I've never (knock wood) been the randomly choosen one, but BabyMaggie has.

They never said anything rude to her, but still it is something I don't want to experience or have to explain. I know, I'm being much to tense about getting found out. Maybe when I've got a few more years on me...

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When I got shot 3 years ago. I was sitting at my computer and my screen saver came on (pictures of girls in DIAPERS).

Anyway being in shock I didn't even realize it when the Cops, Firemen, and Paramedics all came in the room and noticed it.

I heard people talking about it, around me, when I was laying in the emergency room getting patched up.

Though it didn't even matter.

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I remember one episode of COPS where they chased and caught a guy in his 40's who was running away from them in just boxers. I can't remember what he did, but when they took him out of the back of the cop car he had messed his boxers! The cops said, "Did you mess yourself?" They were disgusted and they showed the cops cleaning out the back of the car and they also took a garden hose and hosed the guy down with water from the waist down before taking him in to be booked. Very interesting. It was on 4 or 5 years ago at least. Maybe someone can find it on YOUTUBE or somewhere.

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Funniest thing I ever saw was a drunk kid get arrested at a Whataburger and he puked on the cop as he was being read his rights. I looked at the cop and just said, if you want to throw him into the building I can look the other way. :lol:

The kid got arrested because he peed on the side of the building and then was throwing ketchup packets at the cashier.

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i was forced to buy my right to carry a gun with a concealed weapons permit....$60. i pack religiously. isnt it nice how if they cant take your right away they just make you by your right back. then take that same money and invest in ways to make it harder for you to obtain that right. in my state they just got rid of your "right to self defense" nice....coincides with the signing of that realy cool world wide freedom of the press act.....government censured press.....world wide......and its offical.

and cigarettes here have gone up 100% in the last yr and gas a dollar.

on another note anyone here hear of the expansion of the mental defect list they want.....it defines free thinkers and anyone who resist authority as mental jobs and should be on pills....no joke. thats great if your forced to see a doctor with 'socialist' health care..im screwed, theyl put me in a mental hospital in 10 yrs if i see those new "3 yr harvard doctors" if it did come to brain pills and i had no way out of that, i would be forced to go "incontinent"..suicide being the alternative. nazi america sucks...can we try something else

sorry....i like to rant

ive had many experiences with the cops, all traffic, im legal.....now..lol (stripped VW scirocco with a "roll bar"((cop magnet))). some deserved, alot....not. the best way to deter the crazy cops, is to install a camera in your car. ive had more experiences with this working. i would post some. but you know the net.....dont wanna make the news..yet. nice lawsuit in the future.

any ways

i too have been pulled over... wearing doubles. i was going 100ish in a 60 on "empty" 3 lane highway. dumb spot to speed and i knew it...I see a gray cop car over the next hill and he sees me. so i pull over almost in front of him, i have an empty flat box of .22's on my back seat and proceeds to grab my arm, opens the door and gets all pissed. pushed me into the back of my car and then.......searches. first the pockets. then the diaper. immediately the searched ended. he shoves me to my door then gives me 45 seconds to find my insurance. then gives me a ticket for no insurance. in my state if you go 10 over the speed limit they can technicaly arrest you, but a box of bullets does not constitue a search. this one i desereved "in a sick twisted way". looking at it now, a diaper may have kept me from getting a nasty speeding ticket or even jail. hmmmm.........lol

but seriously, if you are harrased by cops like i am, put a camera in your car, alot of cops dont know the law, or simply lie so they can get a ticket out or increase the ticket. they dont do this to the people who naturally look like 'yuppies' (the stero-type)(much)

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Where I live refusing a search IS considered suspicious, and you'll be sitting in their car while they call the drug dog to try and get cause.

As stated earlier - the cops can consider your refusal as anything they want. However, Supreme Court Ruling says they are not supposed to. Therefore, if they do consider your refusal as cause to search. 1) Cooperate fully, 2) Get their names, if they refuse write down their car number. 3) Make a complaint with agency, or one of the many acronym named groups that are biting at the bit to sue and make an ass out of our fine men and women wearing a badge.

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I remember one episode of COPS where they chased and caught a guy in his 40's who was running away from them in just boxers. I can't remember what he did, but when they took him out of the back of the cop car he had messed his boxers! The cops said, "Did you mess yourself?" They were disgusted and they showed the cops cleaning out the back of the car and they also took a garden hose and hosed the guy down with water from the waist down before taking him in to be booked. Very interesting. It was on 4 or 5 years ago at least. Maybe someone can find it on YOUTUBE or somewhere.

I remember that episode. It made me laugh.

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People are such sheep to cops. Cops will try ANYTHING to put you in jail, even if your innocent! Give them a hard time just like they are giving you a hard time and never ever give permission to search. LOL one time I had a cop tell me we would wait on the side of the road for "however long it takes until I get a warrant" and I said ok go ahead. I waited for 45 mins and eventually was let go with a "verbal warning" LOL. I knew the dumba$$ couldnt get a warrant, but cops assume people will believe anything that comes out of their mouth. People who think cops are here to help you are just plain ignorant. The cops arent here to help you, they are here to put YOU in jail for as long as they can.

It is the cop's job to put you in jail no matter what. Thats the only way they get paid. They can't "feed their kids" without putting you in jail. The cop was hoping and praying to find anything in your car just so he could arrest you, take you to jail and have you pay huge fines. Its a corrupt system. f cops!

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People are such sheep to cops. Cops will try ANYTHING to put you in jail, even if your innocent! Give them a hard time just like they are giving you a hard time and never ever give permission to search. LOL one time I had a cop tell me we would wait on the side of the road for "however long it takes until I get a warrant" and I said ok go ahead. I waited for 45 mins and eventually was let go with a "verbal warning" LOL. I knew the dumba$$ couldnt get a warrant, but cops assume people will believe anything that comes out of their mouth. People who think cops are here to help you are just plain ignorant. The cops arent here to help you, they are here to put YOU in jail for as long as they can.

It is the cop's job to put you in jail no matter what. Thats the only way they get paid. They can't "feed their kids" without putting you in jail. The cop was hoping and praying to find anything in your car just so he could arrest you, take you to jail and have you pay huge fines. Its a corrupt system. f cops!

You sound like a little punk who got hassled by the police once or twice for doing stupid shit. Talk about ignorant.

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I'm glad to see this thread continuing to garner interest thumbsup.gif And I'm glad to see that most of those who have posted live in the real world where things aren't the way they are supposed to be, and Cops break the law more than we do :angry: Only by always exercising your rights to the fullest allows you to keep them- anything less will end up with them disappearing for apparently 'good reasons' :o I know Cops personally, and like everyone else they vary a lot- but the one thing that ties them all into a bundle is this: The first unwritten rule of being a cop is that you never fail to back another Cop- even when you know they are wrong horse.gif When you buy into something like that you have no morals left worth considering. The only reason Cops do anything right is because they know what it will do to their career if they get busted :blink: Otherwise they have the same mindset as criminals- as long as you get away with it nothing else really matters :screwy: Don't believe this? If you're friends with a Cop ask them what "professional courtesy" is. I've known it to be extended so far as to let a drunk off-duty Cop continue to drive home whereas you or I would have been busted :badmood: I am heartened to add that in SC there has recently been a spate of DUI's prosecuted against Cops- even those with some rank- and other public officials too :) yet I know that for each of those dozens go unpunished. We the people do not have the same rights in their eyes- we're all potential criminals and if they happen to cause us 'a little harm' by lying or planting evidence, then that's OK so long as "the real criminals" get caught in the end. What hypocrisy!

Our founding fathers were very wise, and well before today knew what would happen if Police were granted too much power. That is why the USA has more restrictions on Cops than any other major nation I'm aware of :angel_not: Many of those restrictions were quietly stripped away by a Republican Congress under what they mislabeled "The Patriot Act" and "Homeland Security" legislation which is why I'll never support them again. It has not proven to garner any of us any more safety; the things which have done that are things which they were supposed to be doing anyway but hadn't done :bash: The only thing which deters a Police State here now is the prevalence of the Camera Phone, which has time and again proven arrests to have been contrived or made illegally and has shown the real 'Cop mindset' in situations where they didn't know they were being 'filmed' :boxing: That is beginning to overcome their propaganda campaign of shows like "Cops"where I've never seen one single arrest made that couldn't be beaten in Court due to illegal tactics used by the Cops. Think of me what you will, but know that I am not against Law Enforcement so long as it is being applied to everyone properly and legally. My issue is with the fact that this isn't being done and that in general, those entrusted with enforcing the Law are morally as bad as the criminals they put forth so little effort to catch :rolleyes: That is why I am seeing this thread continue as it is doing, with real people seeing and sharing their own knowledge and experiences and proving that I am right in my stance of never allowing any of my rights to be usurped without due legal process because that is the basis of all my liberty and freedom as an American citizen.

The list of names where what seemed to be right but wasn't goes on. The list of innocent people convicted wrongfully does too. As does the list of people killed by Cops who shouldn't have been. The same goes for the illegal harassment so many of us frequently endure :huh: The true bottom line is that if Cops have a legitimate and legal reason to do something then you cannot stop them from doing it- the Law provides the process to make that happen and they are supposed to follow it. We have done no wrong when we ask that they follow that process yet some lesser minds seem to think we have. This includes searching you and/or your vehicle. If they do not have that much justification they shouldn't be disturbing you in any way because to do that is to break the Law they claim to enforce and they make themselves hypocrites in that process- which is why they no longer get much support from the average American who is beginning to see this truth as it plays out daily in the headlines and the news and among their family and friends in their local areas.

I remember a time when Cops had the respect of the community at large because they truly were trying to do what was right even in their own lives. There was only one standard and it applied to them first :wub: Those people and those times are gone and the only thing which can bring them back is for the Cops themselves to return to the high moral ground they willfully and knowingly abandoned :drive1: The only non-violent means we have to push then in that direction is to make it as hard on them as we possibly can in hopes that they will see why it's happening, and so then change how they are to implement the only cure for that problem. My full respect for you can be easily gained by fully respecting me- do otherwise and you make yourself my enemy :ninja:

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