Airport Body Scanners

[aquapants]

With the introduction of the Full Body Scanners at airport checkins

I think DL's should make preparations for the inevitable strip search,

when our diapers show up as suspicious shadows

(Should be fun)

[Depends1578]

I'm hoping they have enough sense to realize that people will be wearing for whatever reason. Haven't worn on a plane yet, but best of luck to all that do.

[BoTox]

I, for one, want to hear what one of "us" has to say after making an in-bound international flight with a diaper on. I suspect it will be a non-event but there is a 50/50 chance that it will be an interesting exchange with a security agent.

Other than some embarrassment, it isn't anyone's business what you wear for underwear. I suspect there are a lot of closet transvestites that will be outed by these scanners!

I would hazard a guess that some exhibitionists will make a game of seeing who can be the most outrageous about getting extra screening and/or images on websites of what they wore through security!

Sounds like a hell of an opportunity for DD to get in on the ground floor! LOL

[babychrise]

I just flew in from Costa Rica, and other than the fact that I was patted down three times, and they searched my bag, they didn't say anything. I had diapers in plain view in my bag, and the person inspecting a bag smiled, but said nothing. I have heard though that flights from Europe are under higher security.

I, for one, want to hear what one of "us" has to say after making an in-bound international flight with a diaper on. I suspect it will be a non-event but there is a 50/50 chance that it will be an interesting exchange with a security agent.

Other than some embarrassment, it isn't anyone's business what you wear for underwear. I suspect there are a lot of closet transvestites that will be outed by these scanners!

I would hazard a guess that some exhibitionists will make a game of seeing who can be the most outrageous about getting extra screening and/or images on websites of what they wore through security!

Sounds like a hell of an opportunity for DD to get in on the ground floor! LOL

[bedwetter73]

I agree, what do they care about what you are wearing, as long as it's not a threat. Is a diaper a threat? They won't care and tell you to move on, while they get a private snicker. I had them search my luggage once and there were diapers in there. The opened the plastic shopping bag and looked inside to see the four disp diapers I had in there. Then looked at me, and back. They sealed everything back up and away I went.

I'm sure it won't be a big deal. They just want to catch drugs, money and guns. Nobody's alowed to have any fun any more.

[abrichiebc]

I found this on another diaper related website posted December 30, 2009

Not sure how true it is or factual the information is but interesting to read.

I was flying from Seattle to Phoenix yesterday and I had a very interesting day. Due to the terrorists, they are more hardcore now. I was wearing jeans and a zip up hoodie and an Abena Abri-Form XPlus with 2 Depends boosters. Normally I just wear that thick at night, but I figured it was a long flight and just in case. Typically during the day I just wear pullups with a booster and I am fine and have no leaks. But I got patted down, and I was "thicker" around the waist/ butt region so I got pulled aside. At first I was just in the little glass box next to the xray screening of bags and I ended up waiting there for 20 minutes or so. A higher ranked person came and patted me down too, and they were not satisfied with the pat down so I went to a separate room. The room reminded me much of the movies in Police departments with the one way glass etc. They questioned me there and I told them I was wearing a diaper due to urinary incontinence, and then I was told to remove my pants. I stood there with my hoodie still on and my diaper in full view. They came back with a cheap brand pullup diaper. I pulled my pants up and they asked me to go to the restroom and remove the diaper I was wearing, and for medical reasons use the pullup they gave me. They took my diaper I was wearing for further inspection. I got on the plane and left, and I am still not sure what they did with that diaper. I guess they wanted to make sure there were no explosives in it? Not really sure, but I got stuck with a lousy pullup. I was thinking on the plane in hindsight that I should have peed in the diaper I had to give them.. lol That would have been funny !

[fluff]

^ if thats true, surely there are hygene issues.

I mean, pull-up to me = leaky, there for accidents not anything more

[redneck diaper boy]

I never had problems at the airport but the infared camera, at the Smithsonian, saw the outline of my diaper.

Normally I don't wear diapers during the day unless I am in an unfamiliar area.

http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=17975&view=&hl=infared&fromsearch=1

If you look at the photo, you will see that the diaper is keeping in some body heat and looks darker. If you look to the right pocket you can see the heat generated by my cellular phone.

[lilJester]

i was thinking about taking a trip probally to the uk this summer but not positive im still going to really. but wherever i do decide to go im going via plane so yeah its going to be interesting haha. and yeah pullups to me... bad.... not like i purposefully flood but they barely hold anything honestly. but i doubt they would honestly make you change from a diaper to a pullup. couldnt that be grounds for herassment? i mean search the diapers make sure they are jsut that and not hiding anything else aside form uh what theyre supposed to and let you go on your merry way.

[toddmdl]

I never had problems at the airport but the infared camera, at the Smithsonian, saw the outline of my diaper.

Normally I don't wear diapers during the day unless I am in an unfamiliar area.

http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=17975&view=&hl=infared&fromsearch=1

If you look at the photo, you will see that the diaper is keeping in some body heat and looks darker. If you look to the right pocket you can see the heat generated by my cellular phone.

You definitely could tell there in that infared shot.

[rusty pins]

I wonder when TSA will outlaw disposable diapers because of the absorbent filling that is used in them. They might just say that mixing some other type of liquid or something could cause a reaction and an explosion. The fact that the guy on christmas day had the explosives in his underwear means that inspections of that area will most likely increase. Hey, full body scans are OK with me! I'd rather there be a complete inspection since it's my life on the line if someone should happen to get on the plane with an explosive device!

Just like all these people at the airport who complain whenever their flight is cancled or delayed due to bad weather. Sure it's an inconvienience, but would they rather board the plane, take off in bad weather and splatter all over the ground due to a crash? I'm reminded of two well reported news stories about such things. One is Buddy Holly taking off in a small plane in Clear Lake Iowa with J.P. Richardson and Ritchie Vallens in a bad snow storm. True, the pilot was an idiot, not licensed for instrument flying and the plane was way over the weight limit but the weather also played a roll. Also several years ago the 7 year old girl who was trying to be the youngest person to pilot a plane across country. She, her idiot dad and flight instructor took off in a terrible thunderstorm that airline pilots said they wouldn't even take off in, crashed and they were all killed. True, they were all idiots, but sometimes safety is more important than inconvienience. (By the way, before anyone thinks I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm a licensed airplane pilot myself).

I don't fly in diapers but if I did, then I know I would be taking a chance that people I'm traveling with will find out about them. If they don't already know about my diapers and I don't want them to find out, I don't wear them. If they know, then so what? I could care less if other people on the plane find out I have a diaper on. They are strangers so who cares? If the TSA does a full body search and makes you strip, then it's in a private room and not in front of every one else. I will say that taking a person's diaper off their body and making them wear a pull up that they supply may be going a little too far, but again, better safe than sorry. Perhaps one day there will be a list of tested and approved disposable diaper brands that people must wear as opposed to just any diaper, baby and adult. If a full body scan shows a person is wearing a diaper then they may be taken to the "interrogation room" for verification that it's an approved brand. If it's not, they would have approved airline diapers at the check points that people may be forced to buy (at inflated prices) and change into before being allowed to board the plane. Who knows but incontinent people and people who wear diapers may one day be required to declare ahead of time that they will be wearing a diaper! Too much? Perhaps, but again I'd rather feel that the TSA has done as much as they can to make sure the plane I'm flying on is safe from terrorists.

[curiositykilledthecat]

I wonder when TSA will outlaw disposable diapers because of the absorbent filling that is used in them. They might just say that mixing some other type of liquid or something could cause a reaction and an explosion. The fact that the guy on christmas day had the explosives in his underwear means that inspections of that area will most likely increase. Hey, full body scans are OK with me! I'd rather there be a complete inspection since it's my life on the line if someone should happen to get on the plane with an explosive device!

Just like all these people at the airport who complain whenever their flight is cancled or delayed due to bad weather. Sure it's an inconvienience, but would they rather board the plane, take off in bad weather and splatter all over the ground due to a crash? I'm reminded of two well reported news stories about such things. One is Buddy Holly taking off in a small plane in Clear Lake Iowa with J.P. Richardson and Ritchie Vallens in a bad snow storm. True, the pilot was an idiot, not licensed for instrument flying and the plane was way over the weight limit but the weather also played a roll. Also several years ago the 7 year old girl who was trying to be the youngest person to pilot a plane across country. She, her idiot dad and flight instructor took off in a terrible thunderstorm that airline pilots said they wouldn't even take off in, crashed and they were all killed. True, they were all idiots, but sometimes safety is more important than inconvienience. (By the way, before anyone thinks I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm a licensed airplane pilot myself).

I don't fly in diapers but if I did, then I know I would be taking a chance that people I'm traveling with will find out about them. If they don't already know about my diapers and I don't want them to find out, I don't wear them. If they know, then so what? I could care less if other people on the plane find out I have a diaper on. They are strangers so who cares? If the TSA does a full body search and makes you strip, then it's in a private room and not in front of every one else. I will say that taking a person's diaper off their body and making them wear a pull up that they supply may be going a little too far, but again, better safe than sorry. Perhaps one day there will be a list of tested and approved disposable diaper brands that people must wear as opposed to just any diaper, baby and adult. If a full body scan shows a person is wearing a diaper then they may be taken to the "interrogation room" for verification that it's an approved brand. If it's not, they would have approved airline diapers at the check points that people may be forced to buy (at inflated prices) and change into before being allowed to board the plane. Who knows but incontinent people and people who wear diapers may one day be required to declare ahead of time that they will be wearing a diaper! Too much? Perhaps, but again I'd rather feel that the TSA has done as much as they can to make sure the plane I'm flying on is safe from terrorists.

Why do the people suffer when their leaders are the epic fails?

[miss marcia]

They must expect people to be travelling in diapers because at Munich airport there were adult diaper disposal bins in the disabled toilets.

[diaperliz]

Slightly off topic but:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-porn-laws

It appears they are worried the scanners break child pornography laws.

[d_drew12]

The people who are bitching about how "inconvenient" it has become to fly with all these unnecessary checks and rules are the same people who will bitch and sue the airline and gov't for not doing enough when a plane is taken down and a loved one is lost.

[brandommm]

All politics aside, its funny this topic should come up because i heard something on npr today about this same subject and how it violates privacy and the aclu and blah blah.

[bedwetter73]

Why do the people suffer when their leaders are the epic fails?

Oh god, don't get me on my soap box again!!!!

[bedwetter73]

Slightly off topic but:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-porn-laws

It appears they are worried the scanners break child pornography laws.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Yet another introduction of new technology that is supposed to make us safer?

Can't you just see the dude running the machine j/o behind some screen at all those images and then himself getting caught. Damn it's just such a funny thought. Way to funny, thank you, I will giggle all day long.

[Hasen]

My two cents. Personaly my concer with the body scan is it is an xray. That is alot of unnecessary radiation i'm being exsposed to. If TSA actualy was trained/trained to watch people it's not needed.

[timmyc]

the technology used at airports for screening, as well as air traffic control are very outdated. They all should upgrade to something modern in the name of safety as well as boosting the infrastructure and jobs.

[d_drew12]

the technology used at airports for screening, as well as air traffic control are very outdated. They all should upgrade to something modern in the name of safety as well as boosting the infrastructure and jobs.

They are updating, believe me. What do you propose?

[RMS401]

I think this about sums it up:

-RMS

[d_drew12]

Article out of the local Star Tribune Newspaper on Body Scanners. Much safer and more discrete then you may think. Online Newspaper Article

Body scanners' radiation raises health concerns

The security clamor for "backscatter" machines renews a debate over the safety of small radiation doses.

By MATTHEW L. WALD, New York Times

Last update: January 8, 2010 - 9:20 PM

WASHINGTON - The plan for broad use of X-ray body scanners to detect bombs or weapons under airline passengers' clothes has rekindled a debate about the safety of delivering small doses of radiation to millions of people -- a process some experts say is certain to result in a few additional cancer deaths.

The scanning machines, called "backscatter scanners," deliver a dose of ionizing radiation equivalent to 1 percent or less of the radiation in a dental X-ray. The amount is so small that the risk to an individual is negligible, according to radiation experts. But collectively, the radiation doses from the scanners incrementally increase the risk of fatal cancers among the thousands or millions of travelers who will be exposed, some radiation experts believe.

Full-body scanners that are already in place in some airports around the country and abroad use a different type of imaging technology, called millimeter wave, that uses less powerful, non-ionizing radiation that does not pose the same risk.

But those machines also produce images that are less clear. And in the aftermath of the attempted bombing of an airplane traveling to Detroit from Amsterdam on Christmas Day, the United States is turning to backscatter scanners for routine security checks. Congress has appropriated funds for 450 of the scanners to be placed in U.S. airports.

Most discussion about full-body scanners has focused on privacy issues surrounding the nude images that would result. The American Civil Liberties Union has denounced the practice as a "virtual strip search."

Some experts argue that the broad use of the scanners raises the same question that pertains to any other routine exposure to small doses of radiation: Do the benefits outweigh the risks?

"The guiding principle is not whether Mother Nature is going to kill you one day," said Dr. Arjun Makhijani, a nuclear physicist. "It's whether we can justify doing something to each other based on the benefit you're going to get."

The scanners have been used for years at prisons and nuclear power plants.

In a 2002 report on the safety of backscatter scanners, the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements, which is highly influential in setting regulatory standards, said it "cannot exclude the possibility of a fatal cancer attributable to radiation in a very large population of people exposed to very low doses of radiation."

One author of that report, David J. Brenner, a professor of radiation biophysics at Columbia and director of the university's Center for Radiological Research, said that risk might be increased as the transportation agency begins using the scanning machines as its primary screening system.

"When we were looking at these a few years back, it was always going to be as secondary screening tool," he said. "In that scenario, I don't think there's too much concern." But, he said, if millions or tens of millions of passengers a year were scanned with the backscatter X-ray, he said, the risk would be higher.

The health effect of small doses of radiation is not observed, but inferred from the visible effects of higher doses. Makhijani said that if a billion passengers were screened with the dose assumed by the radiation protection council, that would mean 10 more cancer deaths each year.

But some experts, including Dr. David Schauer, the radiation council's executive director, disputed the idea that collective doses of radiation increased risks significantly.

"I personally don't buy it," he said. "From a public health point of view, it's a bit of a stretch."

[WetDad]

I think this will boost the market for a certain class of "prosthetics". Imagine the look on the operator's face when you stand their with your 16 inch horsey hanging down your leg...

[rusty pins]

I think some people are just uncomfortable with full body scanners because they believe that the people watching can "see everything". First of all, why be embarssed? If they haven't seen it by now, it's about time they did! I would only get embaressed if I had a 1 inch dick or something!