Radical Queers?

[the diapered dyke]

just testing the waters: any radical queers out there? it's hard enough to build queer community in the city, let alone in a kink as specific as this. it seems almost antithetical to be involved in both the queer & ab/dl communities, but i've met a few folk and was wondering if there were some other folk i've missed.

-madison

[Saschadzg]

Hello,

Being radical queer is defying gender stereotypes, being AB is defying potty training or growning up. That´s the bond.

Kvetinka

[Lost_Little_Sarah]

i guess it depends on what you consider to be radical

[Eric D]

I'm not queer, but I'm into the Kink of being a Diaper Lover...

but honestly I couldn't care less if anyone amongst my friends is either Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual, Asexual, or Whateversexual.

I never understood so far the need for promoting ones sexual orientation as the main identifcation trait of ones own character.

same with the Kink things...

I'm not walking around town and trying to tell people that I'm a Heterosexual Diaper Lover - it's my own private lil' world.

But - I don't know why being gay and a diaper lover / adultbaby would make you a "radical queer" by any means?

or do you run around and kick in every sod's face who doesn't think you're great because you're gay and a DL?? What's a "radical queer"?? is it like a radical fascist? or a radical leftist? ???

no offense, but there are a good number of gay people in this community and I yet have to see ANYONE making a problem out of this - people here tend to be quite tollerant and usually don't mind whether you like ladies or gentlemen as your sexual partners.

[the diapered dyke]

no offense, but there are a good number of gay people in this community and I yet have to see ANYONE making a problem out of this - people here tend to be quite tollerant and usually don't mind whether you like ladies or gentlemen as your sexual partners.

queer 101:

i'm not making a problem out of anything, i'm asking if there's any queer-identified folk in the community here, and nothing more. being a "radical queer" is kind of an umbrella identity for folk who don't buy in to the sexist, patriarchal hetero-normative paradigm we grew up with and are exposed to all the time. "radical" because it's about fighting to undermine the paradigm, "queer" because to say heterosexual homosexual or bisexual buys into a flawed gender binary. it's a more progressive form of sexuality/gender politics incorporated into a way of living.

[Lost_Little_Sarah]

by what you just said diapered dyke that would make my answer yes i could be considered one

[Eric D]

queer 101:

i'm not making a problem out of anything, i'm asking if there's any queer-identified folk in the community here, and nothing more. being a "radical queer" is kind of an umbrella identity for folk who don't buy in to the sexist, patriarchal hetero-normative paradigm we grew up with and are exposed to all the time. "radical" because it's about fighting to undermine the paradigm, "queer" because to say heterosexual homosexual or bisexual buys into a flawed gender binary. it's a more progressive form of sexuality/gender politics incorporated into a way of living.

well I didn't know that was some sort of "official" definition - sorry if I understood you wrong - but honestly for "byestanders" the term "radical" will most likely, just as in my case, be very much misunderstood.

[boy ricky]

just testing the waters: any radical queers out there? it's hard enough to build queer community in the city, let alone in a kink as specific as this. it seems almost antithetical to be involved in both the queer & ab/dl communities, but i've met a few folk and was wondering if there were some other folk i've missed.

-madison

You mighta missed me. I am active in building community for queers in a whole lot of things!

I love it too.

Ricky

[tris]

Wow. And I spent YEARS being called "Queer!" by my classmates. I didn't know it was such a compliment. :/

I guess when I hear the term 'Radical Queer', I'm more inclined to throw a comma in there, just for good measure. You know, to make it more of an easy-going, positive praise-phrase instead of a hurtful chirp, like, "Radical, queer!" when you see 'em pull off a sweet-ass grind, or a kickflip ollie and flashed their rhumba panties at a gaggle of coeds.

I understand that just like religion and higher beliefs, sexuality has its concentrics, but what are the benefits to further defecting from a community of societal defectors?

[just_here]

I'll admit to reading radical and saying "ohhh no...I'm not that leftist..." lol. But judging from that definition I guess it suits me just fine. I don't believe in pushing sexuality on others and calling attention to myself (I can't see myself hanging a rainbow flag outside my home or something like that). But I do believe in equal treatment of people (not based on gender and/or sexual preference) and I do believe in gay marriage and all that (which really does go against the norms that were taught to me). Oh, yeah, and I guess I could be considered queer (or somewhat queer).

[FretaBWet]

queer 101:

i'm not making a problem out of anything, i'm asking if there's any queer-identified folk in the community here, and nothing more. being a "radical queer" is kind of an umbrella identity for folk who don't buy in to the sexist, patriarchal hetero-normative paradigm we grew up with and are exposed to all the time. "radical" because it's about fighting to undermine the paradigm, "queer" because to say heterosexual homosexual or bisexual buys into a flawed gender binary. it's a more progressive form of sexuality/gender politics incorporated into a way of living.

You go girl, the more you push out the boundries the more room you create for everyone.

Hugs, FretaBWet

[Aleia]

Gay or straight, public display of affection is unbecoming. Just don't do it.

I'm a lesbian and that always surprises people. I guess you could say I defy the norms of homosexuality: I'm more or less ultra-conservative in terms of politics and spirituality, and too girly for my own good. I identify much more strongly as a female than as a homosexual; I knew I was a girl long before the hormones kicked in.

I don't think being gay compromises your gender. Homosexuals might identify with the SOCIAL NORMS of the opposite sex, but it's a mistake to say gays aren't "real" men and lesbians aren't "real" women. You are what you are...

I've always been curious: how many homosexuals actually fit the stereotypes surrounding homosexuality? How many of us are true "flamers," are obsessed with gay porn, go to gay bars, plaster rainbows all over our personal property, engage in serious PDA, cross-dress, and are sexually "promiscuous"? I think a lot of that is just Hollywood...

[Saschadzg]

I identify much more strongly as a female than as a homosexual; I knew I was a girl long before the hormones kicked in.

Hello Aleia,

Before I watched L-Word, I actually though that Lesbians were extremly masculine dressed women, who eventually would like to become a man (e.g. all transmen (FtM Trannsexuals) were lesbians for part of their life). Now I can accept my femininity and still be a lesbian. I even have to be careful not to fulfil male sterotypes of being women themselves.

Babygirl Kvetinka

[saulykins]

I'm one! I'm a transguy, and I actually live in Detroit too.

[asleeponurshouldr]

Gay or straight, public display of affection is unbecoming. Just don't do it.

I'm a lesbian and that always surprises people. I guess you could say I defy the norms of homosexuality: I'm more or less ultra-conservative in terms of politics and spirituality, and too girly for my own good. I identify much more strongly as a female than as a homosexual; I knew I was a girl long before the hormones kicked in.

I don't think being gay compromises your gender. Homosexuals might identify with the SOCIAL NORMS of the opposite sex, but it's a mistake to say gays aren't "real" men and lesbians aren't "real" women. You are what you are...

I've always been curious: how many homosexuals actually fit the stereotypes surrounding homosexuality? How many of us are true "flamers," are obsessed with gay porn, go to gay bars, plaster rainbows all over our personal property, engage in serious PDA, cross-dress, and are sexually "promiscuous"? I think a lot of that is just Hollywood...

I agree with that. PDA's are not cool in my book, whether gay, lesbian, straight, tg, abdl, or whatever flavor you are.

I don't "look the part", but I don't let that stop me. I like what I like.

[ericb13]

Well that is one of the problems about being gay. We will always be portrayed in the way the media see's us now. So I would probably just forget what any people say to me regarding gay's lesbians etc... That is not positive anyway

[PampersPete]

It doesn't help the homosexual agenda when you have a shitload of liars amongst us. Take the ever-so-present lisp among most gay men. I grew up with guys who had a lisp when out in the real world among their out of the closet friends but when with me having a beer talked"normal". I'm bisexual but you'd never know it because as far as I'm concerned,I'm a man. I've been told that I'm a bit of a flamer when it comes to saying or doing certain things,but I also believe that these same people see these things in an ultra-sensitive light since knowing I like men. Don't get me wrong,I don't hate my ultragay brothers-I just would have a hard time dating one. I will admit to having a crush or two on certain uberqueer men every now and then.....Just some food for thought.

[Frink]

I'm not a radical nor particularly gay, but I enjoy putting my meat in people, and any activity that allows my throbbing gristle to enter a larger percentage of the population meets with my approval.

More seriously, I'm basically content to remain in my closet while watching the political types do the heavy lifting. I'm not about to come out until I'm damn well certain that doing so won't negatively effect my life or career, and the fun thing about pitching for both teams is that even if you can't leave the dugout for Team Blue, you can get all the way to home plate with Team Pink, and sometimes even score a field goal.

edit: oh god i am not good at sports metaphors.

[PampersPete]

I'm not a radical nor particularly gay, but I enjoy putting my meat in people, and any activity that allows my throbbing gristle to enter a larger percentage of the population meets with my approval.

If yer ever in the Sandy Eggo area,PM me. I'd LOVE to have a beer with someone who has a sense of humor like me.

[Saschadzg]

More seriously, I'm basically content to remain in my closet while watching the political types do the heavy lifting. I'm not about to come out until I'm damn well certain that doing so won't negatively effect my life or career, and the fun thing about pitching for both teams is that even if you can't leave the dugout for Team Blue, you can get all the way to home plate with Team Pink, and sometimes even score a field goal.

People will start wondering why you are not married by age 30. Then the rumors will start. Then you can guess, what´s better for your career. Being a loner who cannot adjust to another person or being in a partnership of mutual respect.

I would rather hire the gay/lesbian person in a partnership than a strange over 30 single person.

Kvetinka

[beallucanb]

I have been through all the rumers, I just past them off as hear say, and yes I'm gay, I just don't push it in everyones face.

[boy ricky]

I have been through all the rumers, I just past them off as hear say, and yes I'm gay, I just don't push it in everyones face.

People that display affection in public is way okay for me. When you get into heavy petting that might not be appropriate in some public places.

I do stand up though when people suggest that gays should abstain from kissing, hugging or showing their love or interest in the person(s) they are with. That continues to play into the straight jacket we have been shaking off.

Let me add that I am not saying people have to come out of a closet. I am saying that as long as its okay and considered cute for straight couples to go gaga over each other, its way okay for queer couples to do the same.

[beallucanb]

I'm not saying you should hide your sexualty or your love for your partner, even stright people crawling and pawing over there partners is not anything I want to see in public.

I see nothing wrong with same sex partners having a kiss or showing signs of affection in public, but I don't want to see them practicly having sex just like I wouldn't want to see strights doing the same.

Hell I wouldn't mind finding someone to do that to in public or private myself.

[sarah_ab]

for me personally, i could care less who people love, who they marry, and who they are sleeping with (assuming all are consenting legal adults of course).

However, until the time comes that the rest of the world can wise up and learn to mind their own damned business about other peoples relationships, i admire those who are willing to stand up and face the ridicule and the harrassment to make this world a better place.

As for PDA, i think certain pda's are acceptable.. such as holding hands, an arm around a loved one, a short peck on the lips or cheek during an apropraite moment. What I can't stand is people who are making out, tongues all over theplace, or hands all over the other person, or who can't stop kissing each other for more than five seconds. I dont care who you are or who you are doing that to/with, i just dont wanna see it.

[Guest Baby_brad]

oh I got a GREAT PDA moment. I was on a train heading out of chicago towards home, and this drunk couple walks on the train, with 24oz buttwater (eer bud) cans in their hands. they come up to the upper level. the dude yells "HEY DUDE", and sits down next to me. fast forward 5 minutes and cue the heavy petting. I go downstairs where I could still see them but they couldn't see me. Hand goes up skirt, hand goes down pants, and then thank god it was my stop. THAT is going too far! (and there WERE other people in the car!)