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Well ... the argument of using which bathroom coming up when this is a diaper forum is a bit ironic, but I still support Munchkin and think it's awesome the progress that has been made at her school.

Ironic isn't it?

I don't understand your point. So by your reasoning, we should get rid of all of the following special accommodations as well for handicapped people BECAUSE THEY GET SPECIAL PRIVILEGES: handicap parking spaces, ramps, special doors that open automatically at the push of a button on the wall, SPECIALIZED HANDICAPPED STALLS, parking permits, etc that are all mandated by law at the expense, i might add, of everyone's money in public facilities/government offices, etc. We should do away with special payments to veterans disabled in the line of duty, we should get rid of anything that anyone receives based on a special circumstance so that we are all treated equally without respect to anything whatsoever. By your reasoning, these people should hand their special permits back to the state, tell the federal government they don't want their assistance to help them function just a little easier in a society made for the non-handicapped and disabled veterans should turn down any additional disability, etc they receive from the government just so they can "be like everyone else." Pull your head outta your ass man. Being TG is not a handicap, but it does hold its own set of complications. A non-gender bathroom is just that, call it unisex, call it what you need. How is it adding anything at additional cost more-so than if they would have called it a "Family Restroom" except for the fact that it's on an educational campus so they called it something different.

Well ... I guess I don't really have a good answer for this one. I remember back to high school I had no interest whatsoever in sex with anyone ... guy or gal. I remember my first encounter was when I was a junior and found my way into a m4m channel on IRC that was connected to my local area (this was in the early 90s). Sure, it was just a BJ, but it was my first encounter with a guy. At that time, I viewed it as an experience I enjoyed, but more of a chance to get a need fulfilled. I tried to be "normal" at that time and a couple years later, I ended up dating a couple of girls and enjoyed the company, but found sex with a woman to be rather disgusting (I couldn't stand their smell, even when clean) and too much of a chore (it wasn't enjoyable). It was at this point that things kinda turned on in my head who I am... at least until I let my friends, family, and church convince me it was a "phase" and that I wanted to be/should be with a woman. This is where I made the biggest ... I won't say mistake, but misguided decision ... of my life. I met a woman whom I did love emotionally, but not sexually and spent 8 years with her and did what I had to do to meet her needs, even if it wasn't enjoyable to me because of the companionship. No, I didn't cheat on her once to meet my needs because I was brought up to be faithful, no matter what the consequence. I finally came to terms with who I am after we separated and have thoroughly enjoyed being able to be myself freely. Now that I've told you more than what really matters, my point is that you have to do what feels right for you and makes you happy. If that means experimenting to find out what works for you, do it safely. Think about it thoroughly. If you truly feel this is the case, then maybe it is just a way for you to satisfy your needs and urges. I'm of the mindset that while there is the sexual component to hetero- and homo- sexuality, you also have to be sure that whatever happens, once you get into a relationship with someone, that it satisfies all your needs, sexually, physically, and emotionally. Don't make any decisions based on what will please your family or friends, do what is right for you. Maybe you're bi, maybe you're gay, maybe your curious. Who cares? Do what you have to do to answer that question for yourself. Just don't lead someone on to believe it could become a relationship if you are just trying to meet a sexual need. That will do more harm than good, for both sides, believe me.

I guess I wouldn't necessarily fit into the true category of asexual as I don't mind sex, but I find that I don't need it to survive. I'm more than happy just being with another guy and sharing the intimacy and company moreso than HAVING to have sex to make a relationship work. I don't view intimacy as sex, but to actually be so much more than that and view sex as more of a category of it's own. Unfortunately, I find it difficult to find another guy that is happy without having sex like a jackrabbit and can accept my desire to be diapered.

You're not the only single guy that is looking, but I am not hetero either, so I can't really say I know what that is like. I tried to be "straight" for the longest time and I finally came to terms with myself and realized what I really felt about myself. I agree with Baby Sophie that you are still young and discovering your sexual identity. Maybe it's not so much of a "widening" of your dating pool as much as it is you possibly discovering what you really enjoy.

D_Drew, It sickens me that people think everyone should conform to what society's norms are and not respect that everyone is different and has their own differences. I think you may have missed the point when it was stated they are getting Gender Neutral restroom facilities. Gender neutral means exactly that. For some, it is difficult to grasp, but gender is not only Male/Female. Some people do not feel they fit into the male/female genders that society deems as standard, they view themselves as gender-neutral, non-binary, or another view and don't feel they fit into either category of the generally accepted of society's "standard" genders/sexes. I know this is a very general explanation of it and does not do it justice, but I hope you get the idea and can understand that people shouldn't have to bend to your will to feel proper about themselves. For those who are in transition, it is also great because if they have anxiety about their situation, it gives them an option to avoid the awkward situation of using a single-gender restroom as well as keeping them from being outed inadvertently and creating a hostile situation (as we know there are many a-holes in this world). The fact that the school is taking such a step in recognizing these types of issues is stunning and a huge step forward. As someone else said, if you can't be constructive, you shouldn't even have came into this forum to bash what someone has put out. I think this is along the same type of idea as a Family Restroom that has begun to become standard at many shopping venues. These are great for families with young children so they don't have to take them into an opposite gender restroom as well as giving them privacy for diaper changes, etc. For those in the incontinent world who want privacy to change when out of the house, it gives them what they need to function without fear of being discovered or embarrassed about their condition. I'm beginning to ramble and go on pointlessly so I'll end, but congratulations MunchKitten. That is great news!

WOOOOHOOOO!!!

Sarah, I apologize. My intent was not to hi-jack your thread, the ignorance that comes with the stated ideals really gets under my skin sometimes and I had a trigger finger =) I am rejoicing as well because it's another battle won and a great step forward. I never would have expected it in Iowa, of all places. I grew up in Nebraska, so I know how stuck in their ways the general ideas are in that region.

I respect your opinion Redneck, but how about those of us who are gay. Try replacing everything in your response where you refer to "gay" or "alternate lifestyle" to mean "straight." Why should we have to live our entire lives hiding our love and passion for someone just to prevent making someone uncomfortable. How uncomfortable do you think it makes us feel having to stand there watching two "straight" people freely able to express their love for each other with nobody complaining about it. There are two sides to every issue, I urge people to take an objective view. Just think ... maybe we should try to push for laws banning "straight" marriage too.

I'm not in the city, but i live up near albany

From another Gay DL to another, welcome! =) ----- Edit: Guess i should update my location. heh Moving to Upstate NY this week! wooohooo!

It is my guess that these questions are control questions used to validate further responses.

OK ... I realized I went and followed the off-topic discussion as well. Back on topic in relation to the OP, I agree. We definitely need to speak up to defend ourselves when intolerance is evident. If we don't have the guts to do this, people will continue to walk on us. To put it into perspective, when you were a kid in school and people start bullying you around and they see they can get away with it, they will continue to do this because they know you won't do anything about it. Most bullys are just that and if someone were to have the guts to stand up to them, they'd back down. (or at least that's the way it was many years ago when I was in school, hell, they probably just pull out a gun now). Anyway, yes, I think we need to have the courage to stand up for our own group when it comes into negative view in a situation. I'm learning to actually have the guts to do this as I become more comfortable with my own sexuality (I was kindly shoved back into the closet almost 12 years ago and the door slammed in my face and more or less told I was just going through an experimental phase. I was 19/20, I think I knew what I wanted. In the effort to make my family happy, I lied to myself and lived a "straight" life as long as I could before it caused turmoil in my relationship). Hopefully the more people that can show the courage needed, the more will see that it's OK to defend ourselves as a group. I hope this came off right. I have a habit of reading too much into a post sometimes and then rambling on. lol God Bless!

I'm curious as a whole though why everyone insists that being GLBT is leading a sinful life? I am a Christian, I struggled with the idea that I was going to hell after I came to terms with who I am after a failed marriage and getting back to the feelings I had been having for over 10+ years. It wasn't until I did a lot of study and research that I came to terms with myself and who I was and got back in touch with my spirituality and found that I was going to be ok. The idea of homosexuality being a sin is something that human beings interjected into the biblical scripture. The original texts didn't reference this in any way, shape or form. Biblical scholars have gone back and looked this over greatly. So many people are led to believe we are living in sin because of the way GOD MADE US! We are all created in God's image, is that not what he said? If this is the case, then why would he make us this way, then condemn us to hell? Sure, everyone recites the same handful of scriptures ... before firing off those scriptures, they should look at the context not just what they say. If someone chooses a lifestyle of lust, that is sinful. When it's a lifestyle of love, we can't help who we love. If we participate in acts of love with another, that is not out of lust, that is not a sinful relationship. People also recite the old-testament laws ... Let me ask you this ... how can you choose to enforce one law, but not enforce them all as a whole? These old testament laws were meant to be followed as a whole, not picked and chosen. Look into some of the others ... one that comes to mind is that "if it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately." Why do people turn their heads from this one if they feel they must enforce a different one? Again, it comes down to being taken out of context! Here are a couple links to very informative and thorough documents I used to help me get a better insight into this when I was struggling. Sure, most people will damn and condemn this information as blasphemy. Why? If you ask me, it's because they are afraid, and they don't want to open their mind to new and unconstrued teachings. http://www.soulforce.org/pdf/whatthebiblesays.pdf http://truthsetsfree.net/study.pdf

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Chibusa, Thanks much for the sincerity and concern. It is something we've discussed periodically over the last several years and he always says not to worry about it, that there are no hard feelings. I know he's being truthful and honest, but it is still something I am very ashamed of. I would love to say I've lived my life with no regrets through almost 31 years of life, but this was the one incident I hold regrets about. I've always taken it hard and it forced me out back then, but everyone said I was just going through a life phase and experimenting so I pushed all my feelings to the back of my head and tried to live "straight." I was even married for 8+ years and now that relationship has failed and it's enabled me to be honest and truthful to myself. I'm happier now than I have ever been and it's been great, but I still feel regret about what I did to my best friend. That's why I give caution in situations like this and suggest both parties be totally sober and talk things through before taking any quick actions that could cost a very close friendship.

I have to agree with what's been said previously. Alcohol can do strange things to people. It's not worth risking the great friendship you already have together just to have an experience once. My best friend and I went on a road trip and i had come out to him during the trip and he was cool with that. We'd had previous experiences where I'd given him a couple BJ's and that was between us. He never questioned it. I had told him I was curious and wanted to see what that was like. On the trip, I took advantage of him and felt him up while he was sleeping next to me (we'd crashed on the floor of his friends room in Florida) and it almost destroyed our relationship. It took a LONG time for him to be comfortable around me again, and to this day, we still don't really talk much although we are still fairly close. Basically, don't do anything either of you will regret later. It can tear the two of you apart and it's not worth it. If I could go back 11 years I'd never have done anything of the sort. It wasn't like me to do that in the first place, I guess I just got stupid for a few minutes.

The thrill has worn off for me as well, but I think it's more I've been having more accidents over the last several months after the wife and I split up, I'm attributing that to stress and pretty bad depression... something my mom agrees with me on (Yes I told my mom about the diapers and that it started as an emotional thing, but as things went on after the separation, the accidents i started having, she has a medical background). On the flip side, it gave me the chance to come out of the closet after 10 years and the accidents have slowed down quite a bit after meeting my boyfriend and getting a bit more stability back. I've always been interested in seeing other guys in diapers, but then again, I've always had a thing for guys, so that could explain that one. I still enjoy just wearing and occasionally wetting, but it's become a thing I have to be careful of because it is getting easier and easier to "forget" that I have to go and I've had accidents while not wearing, thank God just around the house or somewhere where I can just get in the car and go. The greatest part of it is that my boyfriend is understanding and accepting of why I wear whether it is for the accidents or as a comfort issue when I'm getting depressed. All I can say is pursue it if you can find someone and maybe if you are active with someone, see if you can try to pull them into the fray with you. =)

I may just have to do all 3 if i found one like that =)~

Awesome Collegebaby! I recently came to the realization myself after a failed 8+ year marriage that I never was able to put my affections towards men outta my mind. Came out to myself and to my parents right before thanksgiving.

Nothing against what anyone's tried to give Nappyloon to assist, but if I remember correctly reading that thread, he had a botox method performed to INDUCE incontinence, not prevent it. I found this link for ya that hopefully will give you a bit of hope regarding a botox treatment to reduce the OAB and inco that comes with it. http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/4-7-2004-52663.asp http://www.augs.org/files/public/2004_Non-...esentations.pdf the above link also shows successful research in botox treatment to resolve OAB. It's contained in the very first study #61. The aforementioned thread addressed a gentleman's desire to become incontinent and went down the road to cause such. Hope this helps some.

I'm not incontinent either, but yes, the diapers do provide a huge stress relief. I still don't know what the reason behind my desire to wear is, but I do always feel a little more relaxed when i am wearing. I've been diapered all evening tonight and I think a lot of that has to do with the super crappy day I had at work.

I guess the first time I can remember having the desire to wear again was in 6th grade. The urges subsided for a bit, then I had a wetting accident in 9th grade. I'm still trying to figure out how nobody in the class knew about it. My dad had incontinence issues so had the belted undergarments, I took a couple of those out of his closet and then they found 'em. He asked me if I had wanted to wear diapers again. I didn't know what to say so I said no of course. I then went in the military and was out of it for a while. I guess I didn't really have any desires at all while I was there. When I came home and started living on my own, the desires came back. I started buying a pack here and there in the middle of the night at a 24 hr drug store. Still not sure why I was so embarassed. I'm married now and I still wear whenever I'm home and almost constant during the weekends. My wife doesn't really take any part in it, but she does tolerate it and she gets the benefit of my wearing too (you know what I mean). I'm 2 months shy of 30 now so I suppose I'd say I've been back wearing again since I was 20.

Good morning everyone! I've been around here for some time, although I've never made a post. I'm what you would call a lurker I suppose. This is difficult for me to do as Diapers have been a pretty private thing for me. I suppose you would call me a Diaper Lover more than an AB as I don't really do the baby thing, but I've experimented lately with bottles and such. I'm pretty much alone about my diapers as my wife doesn't really get into it. She thinks it's disgusting, but I think it's comfortable, so I'll have it my way =) I've been into diapers since I was around 6th grade I guess, although I didn't have the opportunity to really have my own and get them frequently till I was around 20. I enjoy wetting occasionally, but moreso, I just like the security and feeling of a diaper. Anyways, sorry if I bored anyone, but that's me in a nutshell. I look forward to staying for a while!