WBDaddy Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I wanna kind of resume this here because this is (I think) intended to be more of an incubator of sorts. Link to comment
PeculiarChangeling Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Just thinking pure biology-wise, I'm not totally convinced that Amazons would live longer. Link to comment
ausdpr Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 It was Princess who originally came up with the orphanages thing, I think in her second Sierra story. Link to comment
Cute_Kitten Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Those things could be fun to play with. Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Well, from what Ausdpr and I discussed privately, Littles are actually smaller (4'-4'6" on average) than normal humans. Link to comment
Zinaya Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 The creative brilliance of the Diaper Dimension is that it enables babyfication of adults without the need for sciento-magical shrinkage of the one babyfied into a suitable size to fit a baby vs mother relationship and since it's the major fantasy of our creed, it places minimal demands on our willingness to suspend disbelief. Of course there are problems associated with this, but why the need to analyse and cover every possible aspect of it? Does every author/writer really have to obey the limits imposed by the creators of other stories within the same broad framework or can it be allowed to remain just that, a broad framework? 2 Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 2 minutes ago, Zinaya said: The creative brilliance of the Diaper Dimension is that it enables babyfication of adults without the need for sciento-magical shrinkage of the one babyfied into a suitable size to fit a baby vs mother relationship and since it's the major fantasy of our creed, it places minimal demands on our willingness to suspend disbelief. Of course there are problems associated with this, but why the need to analyse and cover every possible aspect of it? Does every author/writer really have to obey the limits imposed by the creators of other stories within the same broad framework or can it be allowed to remain just that, a broad framework? I wouldn't say that anything in this universe is "canon" unless someone chooses to follow it. Link to comment
Cute_Kitten Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 There's always the fun of fanon= aka things that happen so much/ are repeated in various works Link to comment
Personalias Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 On 12/24/2015 at 1:47 AM, WBDaddy said: Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 hour ago, Personalias said: What about a church or cult that holds and encourages this thought, even in the Littles itself. Link to comment
Personalias Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Well obviously it's an Amazon scheme to get Littles to come willingly to them. Link to comment
Personalias Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Eh...Diaper Dimension just isn't my thing right now. Link to comment
JonhSmith13 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 On 24/12/2015 at 2:47 AM, WBDaddy said: If Amazons are all ripe and ready to adopt Littles rather than go through the trouble of having their own children, how does that affect Amazon children, especially when a Little enters an Amazon household with young children already there? 1 Link to comment
Zinaya Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Nice genealogy and very interesting thoughts JohnSmith13! It all depends on how you regard the genes for each type I guess. The easiest one would be where the tween gene is dominant and the littlia/amazonia genes are recessives in which case Amazons and Littles would breed true as by necessity they only have the amazon/little genes respectively. Impure Tweens would produce either 1/4 little or 1/4 amazon with the really interesting option being the breeding of a "B + a" and "B + l" pair which would yield 25% "a + l" in which case it's hobson's choice which of these two is the dominant one. Let's say it's a! This would make possible the "a + l" and "a + l" => a + a, a + l, a + l and finally l + l, eg. three Amazons and one Little resulting from the mating of a pair of impure Amazons. This way, Amazons could occasionally engender Littles but never Tweens. Link to comment
DKN117 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So, what would be the general in-universe reaction (like, if just seen casually strolling down the street together) to a 'free' Little and her Giant friend - as in, no romantic overtones (maybe), no parent-&-child relationship, just two friends who happen to be of different 'races' (and the Giant is muscular/scary-looking enough that the average person won't seriously bug them)? (...Basically, my brain - which likes to make crazy crossover ideas at the slightest provocation - saw a certain pair of not-ordinarily-sized characters from an anime, while I was also waiting for a story on this site to update, and thought: what if, by some inter-dimensional / what-if / because-the-author-said-so stuff like being part of a multi-Realm hero group and sent in as scouts to hunt for someone or something like that... Gamagoori Ira and Jakuzure Nonon from Kill la Kill ended up in the DD-verse? I'm pretty sure that Nonon is Little-sized, even if maybe slightly 'tall' for one (though I think her mouth might get her in trouble if she's not careful), while Gamagoori is a towering mountain of muscle with a foreboding presence and deep, booming voice) Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, DKN117 said: So, what would be the general reaction (like, if just seen casually strolling down the street together) to a 'free' Little and her Giant friend - as in, no romantic overtones (maybe), no parent-&-child relationship, just two friends who happen to be of different 'races' (and the Giant is muscular/scary-looking enough that the average person won't seriously bug them)? (...Basically, my brain - which likes to make crazy crossover ideas at the slightest provocation - saw a certain pair of not-ordinarily-sized characters from an anime, while I was also waiting for a story on this site to update, and thought: what if, by some inter-dimensional / what-if / because-the-author-said-so stuff like being part of a multi-Realm hero group and sent in as scouts to hunt for someone or something like that... Gamagoori Ira and Jakuzure Nonon from Kill la Kill ended up in the DD-verse? I'm pretty sure that Nonon is Little-sized, even if maybe slightly 'tall' for one, while Gamagoori is a towering mountain of muscle with a foreboding presence and deep, booming voice) Well, the reaction was positive in Link to comment
ausdpr Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 On 31/12/2015 at 11:22 PM, Personalias said: Different Idea: 1 Link to comment
Personalias Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 My apologies to Ausdpr if you feel that I have misrepresented you. Link to comment
Kio Rampas Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The genetic thing ignores the existence of in-betweeners. You might have a situation where rather than a purely Mendelian heredity you get a sort of in-between state when the gene is heterozygous, but the fanon as it stands doesn't seem to bear that out. I don't think anyone was thinking about the heredity of the three races when writing though, so nothing's really been established. Link to comment
ausdpr Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The creator of the universe (who thankfully gave us permission to write in her setting, which has been brilliant), never quite made it out as some authors (including myself) have perhaps taken to describing it. Littles were one type of people but they weren't all exclusively dominated. Littles married amazons. Littles had public careers. Etc. They just represented the Hal-story like trope of shorter people who often end up in diapers (experiencing this risk with all other sized people). Amazons also ended up in diapers, for different tropeish reasons. The very first view of the universe even described some bigger people being dominated by smaller people (Princess has written at least one caption with that theme). We just tend to like writing the big/little size dynamics, so it's the one which is heard of a lot. I think Chasing Emily (probably my favourite, tied with the original) presented the original harsher society for littles, though even then it was just the little character's point of view, and she was often told she was overreacting, and doubted herself at times. Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, ausdpr said: The creator of the universe (who thankfully gave us permission to write in her setting, which has been brilliant), never quite made it out as some authors (including myself) have perhaps taken to describing it. Littles were one type of people but they weren't all exclusively dominated. Littles married amazons. Littles had public careers. Etc. They just represented the Hal-story like trope of shorter people who often end up in diapers (experiencing this risk with all other sized people). Amazons also ended up in diapers, for different tropeish reasons. The very first view of the universe even described some bigger people being dominated by smaller people (Princess has written at least one caption with that theme). We just tend to like writing the big/little size dynamics, so it's the one which is heard of a lot. I think Chasing Emily (probably my favourite, tied with the original) presented the original harsher society for littles, though even then it was just the little character's point of view, and she was often told she was overreacting, and doubted herself at times. Way I see it, it's a big planet. Link to comment
ausdpr Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 That's been my reasoning, for every different take on the dimension. Though any question of genetics, and how there's still littles around, etc, would probably want to take those original definitions of the dimension into account. Personally I don't think that nailing down the genetics etc is necessarily going to lead to a fun outcome, it's an intentionally whacky scenario where everything from every diaper fetish story happens frequently. Including, age regression, robots, hypnosis, etc. Questions of genetics, war, disease, trauma, etc, don't fit the setting in the same way they don't for the toys of the toy story universe, it's presuming the wrong lens for which parts of them are realistic as per our world, or which function in their own unique way which are probably better off not being defined. Link to comment
enigma_66 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The world that I see in my mind's eye, without giving too much away, has multiple continents/countries and as it is in the real world, each see the situation differently. As in laws, etc. Link to comment
Zinaya Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 7 hours ago, Kio Rampas said: Additionally, Littles are almost never depicted as being ugly. That probably has a lot to do with the laws of narrative and wish fulfilment, but in truth, if Amazons were attracted to cute Littles, then they would be abducted at a much higher rate than their ugly brothers and sisters and taken out of the gene pool. This would impose a selective pressure on them. Littles would be getting steadily uglier as time went on as only those left behind would be left to breed. You make good sense but there could be a way: As the life of free Littles are hard, they have few children, one or two at most. Captured Littles do not stay cute and babylike from age 16 or whichever age they are taken into custody by Amazons. They age and at some point, they will be freed. If such Littles, the ones genetically predisposed to being cute and pretty, were sponsored and encouraged by Amazon society, they would tend to have more than one or two children. If that's the way it works, then the ugly ones would be the ones bred out. Link to comment
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