DailyD question.

[DiaperboyEddie12]

@DailyDi my question is this.  Wondering if there is an issue with the server?  The site is down a lot these days.

It took me like 30 or so minutes to get on the site tonight.

Thank you in adance.

[Babypants]

42 minutes ago, DiaperboyEddie12 said:

The site is down a lot these days.

It took me like 30 or so minutes to get on the site tonight.

My notes indicate that the site was down on the 17th, 21st, and 30th of August.  A server problem?

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

I too had an outage but there was not even a 404 or an error message

[willnotwill]

A couple of days ago the site would show up completely white (headers but no body on the message).   It went away after a few hours and I've not seen it since.

Usually, what I get is a cloudflare error saying it can't get to servers in Ashburn, VA when DD fails.    I hate cloudflare.   I yanked it off the one site I had using it.   Too much grief.

[Pelusban]

I already wrote this in another topic, but the server was unavailable yesterday for a couple of hours. During that, I checked the availability of the website once with an online availability tester, and it was unreachable worldwide.

[DailyDi]

I am talking to the server guy now about maybe getting on a new server. We've had this one for years and I think it's showing its age.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

You are also maintaining a couple dozen thousand dead accounts. I am talking 10 years unvisited. They take up space, names others might want, processor space and power and are an exploit

[spoonchicken]

10 hours ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

You are also maintaining a couple dozen thousand dead accounts. I am talking 10 years unvisited. They take up space, names others might want, processor space and power and are an exploit

I can't speak for the site owner on this one, but if I were to take a guess...

The more members the more "clout" we have. If & when we go shopping for a new server platform, and the owner describes this place, the first reaction is gonna be " What ?!? A bunch of diaper freaks? Yeah right !"

The second reaction will be when they ask how many members we have. And when we tell them 50,000....they shut up a bit and go "Oh....you're a "real" website alright".  Context is King.

[DailyDi]

We recently had someone ask to revive their account after a seven-year absence. This is not a first. That's why we don't purge the member rolls. Our server can more than handle the average 500 connections we have at any time. It is the longevity and stability of the server I am questioning, not the capabilities.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Do you get more than you risk?

I kind of think that using "dead soldiers" for "clout" is a bit dishonest and a look at the accounts will show them as unused if the other side of the negotiations decide to check to see if you are not inflating your figures. And you can bet that if you think of doing it to manipulate, they've seen that before

How often does it happen that someone decides to return after 6 years; or even remember they had an account? It only takes about 4 minutes to make a new account GirTalk To used to clean out after about 2-1/2 years

Which reminds me, I'd like to get my Facebook account back but I can't read test messages

[Crinklz Kat]

The "dead" accounts aren't as much of a burden as you might think.   Unless those users had hundreds of gigs of stored photos, there's no significant disk space penalty.  This isn't the era where it costs thousands to add a few gigs of disk space.  An unused account has zero CPU penalty.   Security--- well, perhaps.  But you can simply lock anything that's gone idle over "x" time and require that user to send a request to unlock it were that to happen.    None of the commercial car forums I'm on has ever deleted user accounts that went idle as far as I've ever seen.   It's more likely the site will simply die and disappear along with all of the data vs. having a few thousand users get deleted.

 

Another downside of deleting users is that all former posts by that user now change to "guest" or possibly could even be deleted.  If not deleted, it makes it hard to search for anything historical by any specific user. 

[spoonchicken]

37 minutes ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

Do you get more than you risk?

I kind of think that using "dead soldiers" for "clout" is a bit dishonest and a look at the accounts will show them as unused if the other side of the negotiations decide to check to see if you are not inflating your figures. And you can bet that if you think of doing it to manipulate, they've seen that before

  As I said, it was only a guess, and I never intended to imply any dishonest business practices. After all, "I don't know nothin'. I just work here. Go ask the Boss".

40 minutes ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

 

How often does it happen that someone decides to return after 6 years; or even remember they had an account? It only takes about 4 minutes to make a new account GirTalk To used to clean out after about 2-1/2 years

Which reminds me, I'd like to get my Facebook account back but I can't read test messages

     GirlTalk can do whatever they want. Our guy Mikey chooses to do things his way. And he's right. Even my ignorant a$$ knows we'vehad fo;ks return after long  absences. Sometimes they remember their passwords and screen names but not always. Point being? Yeah, they do sometimes return.

 

[kasarberang]

There's not a server provider on the internet which will care about account numbers. What they usually care about it content, if a site violates their policies, it violates their policies, if it doesn't, it doesn't. You're not going to get a server provider to allow/disallow you based on the number of registered accounts. If they'll care about anything, it'd be the number of active accounts or other such active numbers such as daily/monthly connections/visitors. But I just don't see that being something anyone would care about, you don't pay more/less based on users. I just can't see a situation where a server company would reject a diaper/fetish site which didn't have a lot of users and then go "oh, you have that many registered accounts, well in that case go right ahead and violate our policies!" Unless you have absolutely insane amounts of money to throw at the problem. But that wouldn't be worth it, cause there are so many server providers who have absolutely no problem hosting this type of site.

Dead accounts also would hardly affect a server, the most it'd effect is storage. but CPU and other resources would remain mostly unaffected.

[Babypants]

Mike, when prospective advertisers reach out to you, do they ask for a traffic report?  I have been studying traffic here since October, and a few points seem pretty clear in the data.  For example, when I looked at the full list a couple of minutes ago, there were 539 connections, but only 37 members (6.86%).  Not once have I seen the membership percentage crack 15%.  Second, there is an obvious spike in traffic in the winter months, and ebbing in the summer, but the number of members participating (defined as signing in at least once a week) is less than one percent throughout.  The ebb and flow is pretty consistent across members and guests alike.

I don't know how to interpret what I'm seeing.  Are these traffic patterns common to fetish sites, or are we doing better or worse than the norm?  Personally, I would like to see the membership roster cleaned up because doing so would give us a better sense of how we're faring.  

[Pelusban]

While we are discussing these, do you have any idea why do these service outages happen? Is it really your server, or the server provider, or the same server provider's other clients at the same location, the internet connections, DDoS attacks, or what?

Now I checked something and it's interesting. I asked the IP address of the server (host command) and entered it directly to the browser. It is an error 1003, no direct IP access allowed. But when the dailydiapers.com was down, I did the same and the 4ab.me site appeared, without any hitch. I didn't think it mattered, since I assumed the two sites are related and can share the same IP address. But now I see 4ab.me is on a different IP. It's strange, how could it appear for the IP address of dailydiapers.com?

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Over the past 7 or so years, much of the time Submit/Save (edits) take upwards of 20 - 30 seconds, which was not the case 10 years ago

Also, image links do not work. I use them because when I would upload an image to a post, it would appear twice, once where I put it and again at the bottom of the post, which spoiled the appearance so I just go to "source" and create an image link" or use a copy image link to an image in another post of mine. This has ruined my sig and is new withing the last 6 months. It went back to normal for a while

Something has happened to the rubber panty club. The full function interface, with the overwhelming bulk of the membership and owner outright vanished. DailyDi has done something with it so that it limps along but it is definitely awounded duck. I think I've seen a couple of other clubs like that. And nobody seems to know what happened to the owner. Also you had the situation where 90% of the members were totally inactive, which is a shame. Since you have facilities that persons would have killed for 15 -20 years ago and they go unappreciated. I created a thread to act asa "knowledge base" that was participatory, you could add to it by creating and maintaining a post via editing where you could put links to subject matter in which you think there is interest (I put in several subjects that generated a good deal of traffic and to show how it is done). I thought that it would be quite busy sonce I would think that most of us have special arieas of interest. Nothing doing. I also made RUBBER PANTIES 'R' US as participatory as I could and no takers. despite the fact that there is plenty of discussion. Maybe it is just too easy for people. I was not born in front of a screen with a mouse in my hand: and now we have TOUCHSCREENS! That is beyond STAR TREK. As short a time as 40 years ago, interactive networks were science fiction. 60 years ago, videophones was THE JETSONS. Go though my "Resources", "Goodies" and "Playroom" and see what is available, with much of the creative work already done that you can just pick up and use. 20 years ago I would have died for things like that. And why are not other doing the same? If I can and actually do it, it cannot be that hard. We could have a hub of ABDL creativity and activity that would be a huge internet  "theme park" and "playland" fit to make Disney look like a farm team in singl A ball

[willnotwill]

I'm not as much experienced with InVision, but I've been all over the internals of vBulletin and XenForo over the years.   1000 accounts generates nothing of a load if they're not being used.     I run an XF site with over 50,000 users.   Two thirds of them haven't logged on in the past year and it's not worth the effort to  do anything with them.

Unless you want to go crazy and delete any post by them or reference to them, you have to burn the user id number anyhow or else you'll start getting things misattributed anyhow.    Every once  and a while someone makes a big thing about wanting his name gone, so we just set them to something like deleted492.

 

[kasarberang]

On 9/3/2024 at 11:38 PM, Pelusban said:

While we are discussing these, do you have any idea why do these service outages happen? Is it really your server, or the server provider, or the same server provider's other clients at the same location, the internet connections, DDoS attacks, or what?

Now I checked something and it's interesting. I asked the IP address of the server (host command) and entered it directly to the browser. It is an error 1003, no direct IP access allowed. But when the dailydiapers.com was down, I did the same and the 4ab.me site appeared, without any hitch. I didn't think it mattered, since I assumed the two sites are related and can share the same IP address. But now I see 4ab.me is on a different IP. It's strange, how could it appear for the IP address of dailydiapers.com?

I can answer this. This is because dailydiapers.com is behind Cloudflare. Which is a provider which is basically a middle-man between you and the website. They make cached copies of the website and distribute it to you via one of their many servers, specifically they choose the servers closest to you. This is why when it's down you'll often see the Cloudflare down page which says that your internet is working, the Cloudflare server you are connecting to is working, but the actual DD host is down for whatever reason. This hides the actual DD IP so you're never actually accessing it, this further protects from DDoS attacks as the server is never being accessed directly by pretty much anyone except Cloudflare. This likely isn't the best explanation as I'm terrible at explaining things, but I hope the general idea get across.

 

4ab.me is not behind cloudflare.

[Pelusban]

Thank you kasarberang, your explanation is more than perfect! This time there was no Cloudflare message, so I think the Cloudflare server actually worked and cached or relayed the real server, which I assume, provides both dailydiapers.com and 4ab.me then. The dailydiapers.com goes through Cloudflare and 4ab.me goes directly, but their real IP addresses are the same. The real server malfunctioned and provided 4ab.me contents for dailydiapers.com too. And since these both are certified for https, probably the connection failed.

I have a bit experience with Apache2 (a commonly used http engine) and I think it's possible to get a different website instead of the right one, if the other website is the default fallback. So... if 4ab.me appeared when I entered one of the DD's two Cloudflare IP addresses directly, it means Cloudflare somehow still redirected the request to the real server, which provided its default website. It shouldn't work like this, so maybe actually Cloudflare did something wrong.

And I checked this right now, if you enter the IP address of 4ab.me directly into a browser, the website appears in http mode. So, the server's default fallback IS 4ab.me.