rusty pins Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 8 hours ago, drynot said: Even if you were fired for being AB/DL I'm sure that's not what the "official" reason would be. Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Costing me money as an employer is all-inclusive, and yes, it would include an example like that. Link to comment
ungulate Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 I still say the most important aspect of this discussion is the unchangeable nature of ABDL. 1 Link to comment
LilFozzyJ5 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Beautifully said Ungulate, good luck on getting people here to get off their individual soap boxes though. 1 Link to comment
Elfy Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 40 minutes ago, ungulate said: If we could opt out, I think pretty much all of us would. Link to comment
ungulate Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 No Elfy, I'm about 100% positive that most ABDLs would take another option if they could, Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I think the people throwing around the word "dysphoria" here have an incomplete understanding of what exactly it means. Dysphoria (antonym Euphoria) is a profound state of discontent and sadness over the current state of affairs. Link to comment
Ishigreensa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 WBDaddy: I have to agree with you on this, and you said it perfectly. Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The only thing that troubles me is the whole "identification" thing. Link to comment
Ishigreensa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 While I understand what you are saying, i would say some of the gay community is starting to force their values on our kids by forcing schools to allow boys into girls' shower rooms for example. Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 56 minutes ago, Ishigreensa said: While I understand what you are saying, i would say some of the gay community is starting to force their values on our kids by forcing schools to allow boys into girls' shower rooms for example. Link to comment
Ishigreensa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I understand, WBDaddy. I just wish we could all understand everyone's right to feeling safe, and not feeling ashamed of who we are. Link to comment
Elfy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Ishigreensa said: While I understand what you are saying, i would say some of the gay community is starting to force their values on our kids by forcing schools to allow boys into girls' shower rooms for example. Can stop reading this whole post right there since it shows how uninformed it is. The "gay community" doesn't have anything to do with the who uses what bathroom debate, it is transgender people that would like to be able to use the bathroom. In fact this point, brought up by you in a couple of threads almost randomly shows it is clearly a hot-button issue for you but why you keep shoehorning this into arguments is a little strange. It seems it is brought up just so you can shout about the gay agenda as if they go around trying to poison your kids. I do find it cute though that adults seem to think kids can't cope with seeing a member of the opposite sex naked, I wonder if they can remember when they were kids... I'm sure they weren't so feeble minded as to have their minds blown that other people have different genitals. Children with brothers or sisters up to a certain age will see each other naked all the time, kids play "I'll show you mine if you show me yours", children are designed to be inquisitive and curious, it is how they learn... I just don't understand the "children can't cope with seeing a penis/vagina" idea, it seems so silly. Link to comment
WBDaddy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Elfy said: The dysphoria argument is whatever but I draw the line at what is biologically possible. I can believe people will be born with their brain wired to the opposite gender... Something gets mixed up in the womb and it will happen... I cannot believe that someone is born as the wrong species, that is impossible, same with the age thing. That isn't dysphoria, that is people who really like or really want something and trying to legitimise it by using medical terms they don't understand the real meaning of, and I don't mean definition, I mean the feelings and emotions involved. Trying to take the dysphoria label, bearing in mind this is something that kills a lot of people through suicide, trying to take that label and use it in a frivolous way to suggest they should be able to act young all the time because they are "trans age" or that they are actually a wolf trapped in a human body is not something that should be shown the time of day. It is insulting to people who actually suffer from dysphoria of any type to be compared to the attention seeking people misusing the word. Gets it. Link to comment
Ishigreensa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 This is way off topic here, sorry. Link to comment
ungulate Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Perhaps we are off topic, but perhaps not, because this topic keeps coming up. Link to comment
Ishigreensa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I agree Ungulate! Link to comment
ungulate Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 On 16/09/2016 at 7:03 AM, WBDaddy said: Costing me money as an employer is all-inclusive, and yes, it would include an example like that. Link to comment
rosalie.bent Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 4 hours ago, ungulate said: No Elfy, I'm about 100% positive that most ABDLs would take another option if they could, Link to comment
Ishigreensa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Even the wiring of someone's head messed up as to gender? Link to comment
rosalie.bent Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, ungulate said: Perhaps we are off topic, but perhaps not, because this topic keeps coming up. Link to comment
Ishigreensa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Well, the news doesn't report everything, Roselie, so I'm not sure we should say with absoluteness that no ABs are being prosecuted, but on the whole as a group, I do agree with you. Link to comment
rosalie.bent Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, Ishigreensa said: Well, the news doesn't report everything, Roselie, so I'm not sure we should say with absoluteness that no ABs are being prosecuted, but on the whole as a group, I do agree with you. Link to comment
ungulate Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 I think we may have differing opinions on what constitutes "persecution." To me, anybody who is treated unfairly because they are different is persecution, severity varies. Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now