blitz1027 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Hey all. I'm wanting to move more and more to cloth diapers but am having trouble with leaks around the legs, when I sit or something when I'm wet. To give you an idea of what I use I wear custom training pants made with 4 layers of Zorb with an outer and inner layer of flannel. As for a cover I typically wear a pul diaper cover. Link to comment
babylin Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Likely those PUL pants you had custom designed, however they are not stopping leaks and therefore are not the best for you. Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Training pants are not diapers. They were not meant to hold near the amount that diapers do. They were designed to let the werarers know that they are wet and protect the outer garment so heavy absrancy are undesirable in training pants Link to comment
binky's rule Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 There is no leak proof diaper/pant combination. Link to comment
blitz1027 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Training pants are not diapers. They were not meant to hold near the amount that diapers do. They were designed to let the werarers know that they are wet and protect the outer garment so heavy absrancy are undesirable in training pants That is true but I would think that a pair of training pants should hold the same as diaper with similar layers. Or am I wrong? I prefer a pull on versus a pin on because I can never pin a diaper on right. Also I've tried baby-pants plastic pants before and they typically tear up within a couple weeks. Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Well, Baby-Pants are not the only plastic panties in the world, see my revies Diapers have much more material than training pants. the two have different missions. Why do you think diapers are more showy and require a fuller-cut panty with a wide (at least 10" at the narrow point) crotch? Link to comment
freswith Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Use euroflex pants, the ones with the enclosed elastic. Link to comment
blitz1027 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Well, Baby-Pants are not the only plastic panties in the world, see my revies Diapers have much more material than training pants. the two have different missions. Why do you think diapers are more showy and require a fuller-cut panty with a wide (at least 10" at the narrow point) crotch? Good point. The training pants I wear are designed to have a whole lot more material in them than a normal pair of training pants, so they are a lot more like a diaper. I am with you on the fact that I probably don't have a big enough cover over them. Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Training pants do not have a wide crotch nore do they have as much material as diapers since they are meant to transition a toddler to normal underwear. So if what you are wearing is an authentically designed training pant than it will behave more like that then it will a diaper. You are trying to use an F-150 pickup as a Peterbult Link to comment
square_duck Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 If you don't want leaks, don't pee in your pants! Much of the above advise is helpful A thick or bulky diaper is nice, but when saturated, all the extra wetness has to go somewhere, so the best thing is to change more often. I have worn both cloth and disposables and the bulky disposables will last a long time (which is why I wear them) and worn thick cloth as well, but when soaked, yes, they leak It happens. Options for this, as said, better plastic pants, or add a booster to the inside of what you are wearing, or just change more often *shrug* Tucking the leg bands up inside the diaper item you are wearing helps a lot also. this encases the fabric and doesn't allow 'wicking' through the leg bands, and helps avoid leaks, but what will happen is al the excess pee will just puddle up in the pants and start sloshing around, and come gushing out when you sit...Now THAT will be a leak! So you are more then likely just better off changing more often.. Have fun! OH! and I have seen those training pants with the 'zorb' in them and am intrigued by them, and want to order some at some point..I like trainers and would like some that work well, that I can have an 'accident' in but will hold everything and not get my pants wet I have a few pairs that are fairly thick, but will 'wick' from inside out and my pants get wet after a while, which is 'barassing and well....you know people would know what I did they just wont know how good it feels! 1 Link to comment
blitz1027 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 If you don't want leaks, don't pee in your pants! Much of the above advise is helpful A thick or bulky diaper is nice, but when saturated, all the extra wetness has to go somewhere, so the best thing is to change more often. I have worn both cloth and disposables and the bulky disposables will last a long time (which is why I wear them) and worn thick cloth as well, but when soaked, yes, they leak It happens. Options for this, as said, better plastic pants, or add a booster to the inside of what you are wearing, or just change more often *shrug* Tucking the leg bands up inside the diaper item you are wearing helps a lot also. this encases the fabric and doesn't allow 'wicking' through the leg bands, and helps avoid leaks, but what will happen is al the excess pee will just puddle up in the pants and start sloshing around, and come gushing out when you sit...Now THAT will be a leak! So you are more then likely just better off changing more often.. Have fun! OH! and I have seen those training pants with the 'zorb' in them and am intrigued by them, and want to order some at some point..I like trainers and would like some that work well, that I can have an 'accident' in but will hold everything and not get my pants wet I have a few pairs that are fairly thick, but will 'wick' from inside out and my pants get wet after a while, which is 'barassing and well....you know people would know what I did they just wont know how good it feels! If you're looking for some good training pants I recommend looking up sophiesnugglebunny on etsy or ebay. She and I have been going back and forth trying to make a TP that is as absorbent as possible. She has worked with me and I with her and has helped me immensely. She always been willing to work with me and even modified her TP pattern just for me. Link to comment
binky's rule Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 That is true but I would think that a pair of training pants should hold the same as diaper with similar layers. Or am I wrong? I prefer a pull on versus a pin on because I can never pin a diaper on right. Try some Snappi's (size 2 - toddler) instead of pins. Link to comment
babystevie Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I always wear plastic panties over my cloth diaper. I also wear a Goodnight for a stuffer. No problems with leaks. And I always change as soon as I'm wet. Link to comment
Honu Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Not that this thread needs much... Zorb holds and needs a material that wicks and thus distributes wetness around. As for the vinyl pants and containment, you can kick it up a notch with enclosed elastics. As Ducky stated, when they're soaked, they'll leak. I assumed you were asking about leaks before they are totally soaked. Link to comment
BabyJune Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hey all. I'm wanting to move more and more to cloth diapers but am having trouble with leaks around the legs, when I sit or something when I'm wet. To give you an idea of what I use I wear custom training pants made with 4 layers of Zorb with an outer and inner layer of flannel. As for a cover I typically wear a pul diaper cover. Same problem here. The leaks at the leg openings that I experience are from the polyurethane laminate (PUL) Link to comment
blitz1027 Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 Not that this thread needs much... Zorb holds and needs a material that wicks and thus distributes wetness around. As for the vinyl pants and containment, you can kick it up a notch with enclosed elastics. As Ducky stated, when they're soaked, they'll leak. I assumed you were asking about leaks before they are totally soaked. Thats exactly what I was asking. Sorry for not stating it. I actually have been talking with the lady that makes my stuff and she is working on patter specifically for me. Link to comment
Wet Knight Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 There is no leak proof diaper/pant combination, the crotch area is only going to hold so much water before it squishes it out when you sit. Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Would not Zorb be an excellent outermost layer of a diaper. In the case of multiple diapers, of the outermost diaper? Link to comment
BabyJune Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Would not Zorb be an excellent outermost layer of a diaper. In the case of multiple diapers, of the outermost diaper? Original Zorb fabric is usually sandwiched between two layers of fabric because it shouldn't go against your skin. Zorb2 comes with a double-sided fabric on top of the Zorb and can be used against your skin. If you've ever seen Zorb, you'd see why it needs to be encased. Its texture is very airy and fiber-like; that's what makes it absorb so quickly and spread the wetness around. Bottom line for me is, as long as I change within three hours and don't let everything get too soaked, there are no significant leaks at the leg openings. Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I am thickly diapered. Most diaper materials pass wetness through to the outside. As I understand it it, Zorb holds the wet. If it were not the outermost layer or a part thereof, it would prevent wetness form or make it very difficult for wetness to reach the outermost parts of the diaper and the wetness would accumulate in one of the middle or inner layers. That would be inefficient andmake the inner part of the diaer wetter sooner. As part of the outermost layer, it holds the wet on the outer part of the diaper, which is where you want it Link to comment
dljim95 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 What???? After the zorb holds what it can the rest will flow to the rest of the diaper. Link to comment
blitz1027 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Original Zorb fabric is usually sandwiched between two layers of fabric because it shouldn't go against your skin. Zorb2 comes with a double-sided fabric on top of the Zorb and can be used against your skin. If you've ever seen Zorb, you'd see why it needs to be encased. Its texture is very airy and fiber-like; that's what makes it absorb so quickly and spread the wetness around. Bottom line for me is, as long as I change within three hours and don't let everything get too soaked, there are no significant leaks at the leg openings. Correct. The zOrb has to be encased in another type of fabric. If it isn't the fabric starts to mess up and pulls apart after a few washes Link to comment
Diaperedtight Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I am an experimenter and I hate leaks! Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Original Zorb fabric is usually sandwiched between two layers of fabric because it shouldn't go against your skin. Zorb2 comes with a double-sided fabric on top of the Zorb and can be used against your skin. If you've ever seen Zorb, you'd see why it needs to be encased. Its texture is very airy and fiber-like; that's what makes it absorb so quickly and spread the wetness around. Bottom line for me is, as long as I change within three hours and don't let everything get too soaked, there are no significant leaks at the leg openings.By "outermost layer" I meant of the internal layers such that if you haf 2 inner layers and two surronding layers (for a total of 4) the Zorb would be, just inside #4 Tranining panties were NEVER meant to hold what a diaper does, only a small amount. They are designed to let the child know that she is wet very shortly after the event and not really hold more than one or two wettings; providing that the second is small. So properly made training panties will leak if you overwet them which is not supposed to be hard to do Link to comment
Wet Knight Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I am an experimenter and I hate leaks! Link to comment
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