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  1. 1950potty
    AbabeBill looking at the photo it does look like two playpens. They had to be connected so they would not separate. I'd guess they must have been commercially available. Some kids got good at escaping a regular play pen or crib. Then perhaps falling and getting hurt. My daughter had a mesh hood over her crib to keep her put. We did that after she took a tumble.
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    With Doris Day's passing (RIP) there were some clips of her movies. One of them was "Please Don't Eat the Daisies" There is a scene with the baby. She puts him in this play pen. It is a total control one. Notice there is even a lock for the door. I'm 72 and have never seen any one like this. Lots of regular play pens but not this. Looks like something ABs would like in their nursery.
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    1950potty replied to dldave86's topic in Gear

    Amen with using Baltic Birch plywood. All the other stuff, including what is called furniture grade, is junk. Mismatched plies and voids on edges that need to be dealt with. That take time and effort to deal with. Baltic birch costs more at first but if you labor is worth anything it is cheapest in the long run.
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    If it is a boy in RL, I advise keeping him sitting as long as possible. They have terrible aim and if someone disrupts them they turn to see what it is. So you can do something with the standing part. They also have potty training urinals maybe something else to include?
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    I guess how hard or easy do you want to make it for the toddler or the parent? And how long do you want the story to run. Obviously the commercial version is going to be short. Resistant will take longer and allow you to try different methods. And even those methods on the mean side if you are so inclined.
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    I did a little more research about the chair that closed up. My guess about keeping the child warm may have some merit. I found a number of antique European children's chairs similar to this one. In the comments it talked about using it with a warmer which went into the chair in the bottom space. The heat then rose through the holes to warm the child. And the holes in the back were to secure the child in the chair.
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    Author_Alex You are probably right about the center picture, It looks a little too neat and clean to actually have been used. BUT there is a picture of a kid with pants up sitting in it. (I didn't want to post it because of that). And here is one of the first one's interior. It sure seems well used. And the last one might of had a nasty use. I'm seventy two and a lot of things happened to kids back then that are now called (rightly) abuse. And the farther you go back the worse things could be done. But I tried to think of a more reasonable reason to use that enclosed chair. Perhaps it was to keep the child warmer in an unheated or poorly heated house. I was five or six before we got anything that functioned well for heating. We did often get dressed in front of a space heater. The bathroom was chilly! Or the third one might have been for modesty, but most little kids don't have modesty problems. So hope one of these nicer reasons happened in reality.
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    And maybe they may have been too tactful to mention what was disgusting in 1942. They wouldn't use the word pregnant in polite company. And yes I guessed as to the unwritten message. So I did extend things like disarrange clothing to what wasn't there in print.
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    This is a spin off of a thread about potty training. The picture is of a patent for straps to hold a child on the toilet for potty training. But as I thought about this, I had the realization of why the cuffs for the wrists (item# 11). Item# 5 is to attach the belts to the toilet and item# 10 is to hold the child by the thighs, securing them in place, but why item#11. From my early child hood late 1940s and 1950s when getting caught playing with your private parts, I was punished. Does anyone else have similar memories of getting caught?
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    Thinking a little more about the straps to hold the kid on the toilet. I'll wager that strapping down the wrists were to guarantee you didn't touch your naughty parts. They were very concerned about self abuse. As matter of fact, the reason most of us boys were circumcised, it was thought that would it would help us from being over stimulated. They were convinced that masturbation would cause terrible things to happen.
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    dizzy, have you gone any farther in selling these?
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    Oh the more than one in nappies and the difficulty of washing them was a big driver in getting the child early training program. That and controlling children was important to older generations. I've run into a number of old examples of isolating the trainee. The first outhouse style, notice the door latch was on the outside. The trainee was stuck there until someone let them out. And on closer look the second one also has the latch on the outside. The third was a chair with the doors closed only their head stuck out. So it could have even been worse. But sitting there, waiting on an adult who might not have making you happy as a first priority was very boring and frustrating. been there, done that. Smash-N-Dash do you remember being coerced in any way for getting you to use the potty. Often daycare potty as a group activity makes it easier but not always.
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    From AbabeBill's photos of the baby potty harness I found this method to keep the kid on the toilet. The small loop secured the pair of belts to the toilet seat. The big loops went around the thighs. The other loops restrained the wrists. I thought being strapped to a seat was tough but to have your wrists strapped down seems nasty. I'm glad my mom didn't use one of these. And being patented in 1942 it sure might have been used on me in the late 40s.
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    I've seen kids hanging on for dear life. It sure can't help the process. If the child ever slipped and went in, you can bet getting them trained would be REALLY difficult. Once you got older at my house and you graduated to a seat like this one in the first photo once trained. The reason, I think was that you weren't sitting for a LONG time like at first. Tying up the only toilet for a long time wasn't practical. I do remember using a seat like this. And yes mom used the seat belt, you still needed permission to get off the toilet. She would look in the toilet and verify you had done something, especially for the expected morning poop. I wasn't permitted to pee standing until I started Kindergarten. And if you missed you could expect a spanking. The second photo was a seat my neighbor had. i thought it was kind of neat when I was a kid. I played over there a lot and often one of them was on it. The back of the duck was the pee deflector.
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    Ozziebee during my childhood potty chairs (at least here in the states) were the most common piece of training equipment. Of course we didn't have TV to watch either. Many had a tray that was attached. That meant you could have a toy or book or even a snack while there. I'm guessing you were seated on something like the second photo. Being required to sit until you did something was the standard during my childhood. And most had a seat belt (even into the 70s) to insure you stayed there as long as mom wanted you to do that. Although some didn't, but to get off the chair without permission resulted in having your sore bottom put back on the chair. Our chair had a seat belt to assure compliance. At even at that age my mom had a small paddle to guarantee you followed her directions for other things. Perhaps there was a similar rule and punishment if you got off the potty? Participating in potty training was not optional for a child.
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    How about relating childhood memories (your own or of siblings) of potty training in RL. I suspect many of us are here because of childhood potty training. In my case (late 1940s) I was trained very early and only have some vague memories. But I do remember younger siblings and some other kids in the neighborhood being potty trained in this era. For one thing I do remember a rather strict schedule for being put on the potty chair. The minute after getting up (night or nap) out of a diaper and onto the potty. Directly after a meal. And at something like a hour interval at first, this increased later but even at five she insisted we stopped what we were doing probably every two hours. Later as adults for our own kids we did have an actual schedule. It was based on when they had went in the past or when we thought it was likely. I will relate more memories in a little while but maybe you will share some of your own memories. But mine were of a rigid formal process that was required of the child. Not like today when the child sort of decides when to be trained.
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    Here is another changing device, It is called a "Baby Stand Still". The circular belt is placed just under the arm pits. This places their center of gravity below the belt, so if they wiggle or what ever they can't tip it over. On the arms that support the chest belt are straps to control the hands. And at the bottom there are straps for the ankles. Although a stocks style capture board could also be the ankle control. The opening in the back gives you access to the rear. This looks like a viable changing device.
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    I have made some custom adult size potty chairs. They were based off a 1950's design. Message me if you are interested in discussing one.
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    The concern with real child's chair is can they bear the weight of an AB? Especially if they get squirmy. Send me a message if you want to discuss adding restraints.
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    What about ones with cute sayings. Many of us in past years had intimate contacts with something like this?
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    So what was the punishment?
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    Yes, as it is, the seated position now only has the ankle restraints. Which would just have the person being seated and bored. But sometimes only a modest correction is required. Or as a prelude or postlude to some other correction.
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    Well it is a nice piece of furniture.
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    I found this device on line and have never seen anything like it. It was described as an antique time out chair. In the first picture you can see they were seated and with the front door closed, their ankles were trapped. With the two seat boards closed, the smallest user, could stand on them and have their wrists placed in the small pillory holes. A larger user would have the boards removed and wrists in the larger openings, along with trapped ankles by the door set up. It is conceivable, two could use the device at once. The larger person behind it with wrists in the larger holes and the smaller either seated or standing. And in either of the standing positions the occupant could be chastised.
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    This was triggered by Angela's remarks about SOM. Would anyone else like to comment on spanking machines? How good are they? Do they spread the swats around or does it hit basically one spot?
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