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I have one of those plastic backed Attends I got at Goodwill that I mentioned yesterday. Wow! Not as absorbent as the last ones I got. Even the cloth backed Attends are better than these plastic backed ones. These are much thinner. I'm sitting on both a disposable and washable waterproof chair pad as I expect full leakage in about 2 hours total, if not sooner. Well, for about 20 cents a diaper I can't really grumble! I can double diaper or use a booster.

Cloth backed 4 tape Attends with a booster pad and my Rearz clear double layer rustle plastic pants. Just got back from running errands for a couple hours (well diapered). I scored big at Goodwill while I was out. Two packages of PLASTIC BACKED Attends, total of 40 diapers for less than $8. I often find the cloth backed Attends but it's rare when I find plastic backed ones!

To clarify, it is not the fault of the company. It's the fault of the parents. The company sees an opportunity and rolls with it to make more profits. Naturally they aren't going to do anything that might cause a loss of revenue. They may not really encourage it too much (some do) but they won't discourage older kids in diapers and pull ups either. OMG! I almost didn't want to dignify this with a reply. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DISABLED KIDS OR THOSE WITH MEDICAL ISSUES HERE! No offense but every thread like this someone has to bring up disabled kids or people. We are talking about normal kids and idiot parents who either are too lazy to potty train their kids, wait until way after normal potty training time, follow some nut job on the internet who says it should be up to the child when they want to potty train, or let the kid decide if they just want to stay in diapers instead of learning to use the toilet. That is what the subject of this topic is about. Hear Hear!

Good for you! Great that you are going 3 months first to see how it will go for you if you do make the jump to "full" diaper dependence! From what you wrote, I get the idea you are mostly in your R/V traveling, washing diapers in your R/V, doing what I perceived as mostly not out in public much (I'm living in rv traveling around the country so I don't have to worry about people I know finding out right now). I suggest that you venture out a lot, even going to the point you are among crowds of people at stores like Walmart, even some tourist sites like a museum or park like Disneyland, places where you will be among a lot of people or away from the R/V for most of the day. If you really want to see about how it will be going full time diaper dependent, you need to put yourself in every situation you can over the next 3 months. Be out in the public around people with a poopy diaper. Be in places where you will need to take a diaper bag and change in a restroom when needed. Wear different clothing like shorts in hot weather and be prepared if you look bulky enough for people to notice, especially since cloth diapers are usually a lot bulkier than disposables. Also think about what you will eventually have to tell people you know about why you now wear diapers. If you go diaper dependent, you will be in all kind of places and situations throughout daily life where you may mess your diaper, soak your diaper, have to go somewhere to change when not at home or with your R/V not available. Use these 3 months to put yourself in every possible situation wearing your diapers so you get a true idea of what it will be like when you go 24/7/365. Good luck to you!

That song "I just died in your arms" always sounded to me like, "Are your diapers on tonight?"

BRAVO! I have been saying this for years! It's not the kid's decision to want to stay in diapers. If you are a parent, you have to parent your kids and be the one in control. You wouldn't let your 6 year old get in the driver's seat of your car and drive it around town. You wouldn't let your 8 year old kid go to the neighborhood bar and drink beer or shots of whisky! Why, then would you leave it up to the kid to decide for themselves that they just want to stay in diapers? Parents need to follow parenting. Unfortunately there are some misguided people even on this site who believe if a kid wants to stay in diapers and not be potty trained, it should be the choice of the kid. WRONG! Kids are too young at age 5, 7 and even 10 or 12 to know what is best for them which is one reason why a person is not considered an adult until age 18.

I love that you get your exercise in your poopy diaper each morning. What is your morning exercise routine like? Do you go out and jog through the neighborhood, do you run on a treadmill? What types of exercises do you do? For example, do you do sit-ups? That might feel good each time you sit up and then lay back down feeling your mess mush up in your diaper. Jumping Jacks, push ups feeling the mess in your diaper move all around. How about squat-thrusts or leg lifts? All those might feel wonderful with the mess in your diaper.

Not into them myself, but they might be fun on the beach! Everyone picking you up and batting you around back and forth.

Again, I doubt any company would make "Super Diapers" as suggested in this forum, however to get around the issue of the SAP damming up the diaper and preventing any wicking to the dry areas, if there was a thin cotton cloth material running the full length of the diaper between the inner lining and the sap/padding, that might help wick more wetness throughout the diaper. Maybe someone might want to try detaching the inner lining of a mega diaper, inserting a thin cloth diaper material under it and then gluing the lining back in place to try it.

As an essential hospital worker, it has not been fun but at least I have 4 wheel drive and only a 3 mile drive to get to work. Been down to 7 below zero in the mornings, lucky to get to 5 degrees above zero in the day. Power went out for about an hour and a half Sunday, furnace kept going out because the fresh air intake outside kept getting blocked with snow. Once unblocked and the furnace started back up, it was so cold outside that it took forever just to get to 65 degrees. By that time the intake would be blocked again and we would have to start over. Once the furnace goes out, even for half an hour the house gets cold really fast. Thankfully it warmed up into the low 20's the past 2 days and it's supposed to get above freezing this next week.

I have been here since 2005 and always check for people in Michigan. I am in the southwest area about 40 miles from South Bend on the shore of Lake Michigan. I had a local DL friend for about 10 years who was a member here until he passed away 4-1/2 years ago. Unfortunately I am not able to travel more than 30 or 40 miles for a get together now and then but there is no reason people from all over the state can't be friends and trade messages even if we may be hundreds of miles from each other.

Got the house to myself for about 3-1/2 hours unexpectedly after work today but have to get up early morning to go back to work. I have a cloth backed 4 tape attends with a booster pad good for about 3-1/2 hours, my new Rearz clear double layer plastic rustle pants over the diaper and then my new black Rearz Lil Rebels training pants. Only thing that will get wet is the diaper but the training pants add some bulk for sitting around the house.

It can happen. Diapers, plastic backed and especially cloth backed will stretch over time as you wear them and loosen up. They will get heavy and sag the wetter they get. You really can't prevent a very wet diaper from sagging or getting loose around your waist. With cloth backed disposables you can usually re-tighten the tapes around the waist to snug them back up and that may help for a little while. When you tape on your diaper it should be snug, tight, not loose. As I said, it will still loosen up over time. It doesn't matter quite so much if you are wearing plastic pants or a good fitting onesie over your diaper. If it gets a little loose or wet enough to sag, good fitting plastic pants will help, especially if you also have something else over it like a good onesie and regular shorts or jeans to help keep things where they should belong. Try different sizes of diapers. The larger ones will tape around more in front, but they will be bigger and may have more of a tendency to sag and have gaps at the legs. The tapes don't have to come way around in front of your diaper. The main thing is that the diaper fits proportionally, not too long in front or back and is taped tightly at your waist and legs.

So true. Personally I don't see the thrill in becoming incontinent with absolutely no choice but to be in diapers the rest of your life, especially at a young age, teens and 20's. Hormones are raging at that age. I do always suggest with the young people in their 20's to think it through, future jobs, relationships, playing sports, running for office as well as the cost of wearing diapers for the next 60 years, three times longer than they have already lived. It is an important decision to think through as it will affect the rest of their life. With that said, suggesting they really think it through is one thing. Trying to convince them not to do it is another thing. If that's what they want and desire, go for it! This is their forum and we really have no right here to try and convince people not to do it. Likewise, for people who post in the Incontinent Medical forum, people have no right at all to slam people for trying things other than diapers to help with actual incontinence such as condom catheters and leg bags, medications, even surgeries to help them with their incontinence or other means. Just because most people here like and want to wear diapers for one reason or another, many people who are actually incontinent may want other option besides wearing diapers. That is their forum just like Incontinent Desires is for the people who want to become incontinent. No one has the right in the Incontinence Medical forum to convince those people to stop looking for alternatives for their incontinence telling them to just wear diapers instead. It works both ways here.

I agree! Lazy parents and the fact when they say, "Alexa, change Junior's diaper", Alexa doesn't have the ability to do so. I have noticed for many years now that I see older kids around age 5 and 6 still wearing diapers, and I mean DIAPERS! not pull ups or training pants. You can't miss it when in the store and you see older kids with diapers showing out of their pants. Even at the Secretary Of State renewing my license a few years ago there was a 6 year old girl jumping around with disposable diapers showing out all the way around the waistband of her shorts. Not good parenting and just lazy all the way around. I also think diaper manufacturers help add to it by making larger and larger size children diapers and promoting them. After all, the longer they can get parents to keep a kid in diapers, the more diapers they can sell and the more profits they can make. I'll also say the longer and older a kid is still in diapers, the less apt they will be on wanting to toilet train and instead just stay in diapers. Isn't that the way a lot of us started? It used to be years ago that you couldn't start your child in kindergarten unless they were toilet trained. I guess that has changed.

100% DL here and I go with White diapers, but I have always liked the REARZ Lil Rebels diapers with the skull and crossbones. I ton't really consider them as an AB printed diaper as Skull and Crossbones aren't the typical cuddly characters. I even got a pair each of the white Lil Rebels training pants with skull and crossbones and the solid black ones with the glow in the dark skull and crossbones on the seat. Other thing I recently got on sale was the Halloween diaper wrap from Rearz. Again, not because I consider it cuddly AB style, but because I love Halloween and it looks so cool with vibrant colors, not at all what I consider AB. You can see them in the Photo Forums:

Not interested, but I don't like super bulky diapers between my legs. Maybe some AB/DL diaper company could make one, but I doubt they would sell well enough to be profitable with the machines, tooling and all involved. The costs would be very high and it would be more of a novelty than a practical diaper to wear on a regular basis.

Yes, this past August when I took a trip for a week I went 24/7. I chose very absorbent diapers for sleeping, Beyond XP5000. Over them I wore heavy large plastic pants for added protection and I also slept on large disposable bedpads just in case. Not a drop made it out of my diaper, let alone onto the bed. I am making a suggestion that next time you don't wait until your vacation starts to ask advice. Plan a few weeks ahead of time to ask advice. I also suggest you do some testing at home overnight. Plan on which diaper you want to take on your trip for overnight and wear it at home for several nights. Do at home exactly as you plan to at the hotel. If you wake up at home with wet areas on your bed, then your diaper is not good enough. Try either better diapers, booster pad in the diaper, plastic pants and a disposable bed pad. Keep trying until you hit the combination that works everytime. Lastly, this has come up in other threads. People talk about telling the hotel they wet the bed, asking for a plastic sheet, all kinds of things. Partly I think they get their jollies by letting hotel staff know they wear diapers. The thing is, it is a hotel but you should still treat their property as your own. Don't go with the attitude, "It's a hotel and not my bed. If I wet it, so what?" WRONG ATTITUDE! You take steps to make sure you don't get their bedding wet, even if it may mean extra steps like plastic pants and a bed pad that you might not use at your own home. There is never a need to tell hotel staff you need a plastic sheet on your mattress or that you wear diapers. The idea is making sure you are responsible and do enough testing at home before your trip to ensure you know what it will take to keep their bedding from getting wet in the first place. Respect their property.

Diaper pins through the unstuck tape and through the diaper work quick and easy for me. Aside from making sure there is no lotion, ointment or powder on either your hands or the part of the diaper you are going to stick the tape on, I have no idea why that last tape just won't stick.

Or picking up your groceries curbside at the market!

That is my point. You are mixing the lifestyle with normal adulthood. To me that means doing normal adult things, working, driving a car, going out with friends to concerts or movies along with your baby play and lifestyle. My thoughts on a full baby lifestyle is not the mixing of the baby and normal lifestyles. It's the extremes people go to where they don't do any normal adult things, or very few and basically live their whole life always acting like a baby, playing with toys, waiting to get fed and changed, no deviations from that 24/7/365.

If you are an actual bedwetter with some form of incontinence and wet without knowing at night and nothing you have tried has helped you to stop, discuss it with your doctor or urologist who should be familiar with your situation. They will most likely have you try different options to stop bedwetting, but if they fail and run their courses, diapers may be your best or only options. They should have office staff that can help with a prescription and interact with Medicaid on your behalf to see if prescription diapers for bedwetting can be approved. Most likely the cheapest and most worthless brand there are like Coviden Wings (useless in my opinion). On the other hand, I will say this and most people here will agree. If you are not actually incontinent or a bedwetter but just want to wear diapers to bed as part of your fetish, don't be a douche bag and fraud medicaid into thinking you medically need diapers if you don't. We taxpayers are here to help people who need it, not people fraudulently looking for free diapers for their diaper fetish.

I think here the Stinky, Squishy and Proud" forum will do. If there are a lot of people that want to form a "club" or "group", they can just continue to post to the same ongoing thread. There are some threads here that are hundreds of pages long that people keep posting or adding to. You could ask Mikey if he could add a special sub-category in this thread, however that is what "Stinky, Squishy and Proud" already is. Frankly, I have belonged to many clubs over the years. My understanding of a club is where a group of people with the same interests get together and form a club to enjoy doing them together and perhaps learn different things from others. Have a monthly meeting, pay dues, discuss old and new business, things like that. Now, with that said I can see where it might be fun to have a diaper messing club where like minded people could get together and just mess their diapers and change each other. Club dues could go for buying different brands of diapers and wipes people could try during their activities. Club meetings somewhere sitting around in just shirts and messy diapers discussing who will host the next diaper get togethers, when and at what time. Who will be responsible for the treasury and ordering the different diapers and supplies. Hosting other people from other states for a small diaper messing convention or huge weekend get together. I doubt that any one person would find more than a few people in their area to form a club with regular get together unless they live in a metropolitan area. If they did find like minded people, many of them would probably not want to openly get together with others as they may be very closeted with their diaper lifestyles. Even then, my experience with clubs is if you have 40 members, half of them might show up for the monthly meeting. Planning a weekly get together at someone's home or some place also means that less than half of those 20 people might show up due to other commitments, being tired after work or just not in the mood. When it comes down to it, you could do the same thing without a club or special group by simply finding others in your area, 3 or 4 perhaps, and arranging a time everyone can get together for a day having fun pooping diapers and changing each other. Lots of people do similar with others, including local munchies. As for a group just to talk about it and discuss things, this forum already has all kinds of options along those lines for people who like messing their diapers.

I did for a while now and then as a teenager. Adult diapers were not available in stores when I was 14 years old like they are today, even if I would have had the money and means to purchase them.

I would never want to be a full time baby. Now, most know that I am strictly a DL and have no interest in AB, but I can relate to the question by applying it to DL. I would never want to be a full time person in diapers 24/7/365. not even for actual need. Diapers to me are just one interest, hobby or activity I enjoy out of many. I've always preached a good healthy balance between normal life and the AB/DL lifestyle so one doesn't take control of you to the point you lose normalcy and just want to spend all your life in diapers or as a baby. I have read in forums over the years how people really get into the AB lifestyle, yet they still have some normalcy to their lives. They may wear 24/7 and enjoy baby clothing but many still hold down jobs and interact with friends and others on an adult level. I have also read posts by extremests who claim to be a real baby or toddler. They claim to do nothing but sleep in a crib, play all day with their toys and wait for their mommy or daddy to change their diaper. They don't work a job, drive a car or supposedly do anything adult. They will get really angry at you if you point out that a real baby can't talk, spell or use a computer to post about their lives. There was one guy in his 50's who claimed just that. Claimed he just sat around all day as a 7 year old still fully in diapers doing nothing more than playing with his toys and waiting for his "daddy" to change his diapers. That would get old to me really quickly! Even real babies and toddlers have to grow up in real life, they can't stay that way forever. The minute he turns on his computer and posts pictures of himself and interacts on an adult website with others, it puts the lie to his total "Baby" or "Toddler" lifestyle. No matter what they think, they are an adult with an adult mind and education and never the "real baby" they think they are. My thoughts are, whatever floats your boat. A couple times a year I will try and go 24/7 for a few days, maybe up to a week but once done, I am back to regular life. Even when I do go 24/7, the diapers are just one part of it. I still go out normally dressed to run errands and to the store. When 24/7 on vacation I am still seeing all the tourist attractions and sites, leading a normal and regular life. The only difference is not wearing my Haines cotton underpants or having to run to a restroom every 2 hours. I enjoy the few times a week I may wear a diaper for a while, but I would never want to give up doing adult non-diapered things with my friends or my hobbies or my normal adult life. Everyone needs an escape from reality and stress now and then. AB/DL is a good way to escape into a fantasy world for a while, I just would not want to live my whole life that way, even if some people do convince themselves they are actual babies leading an AB lifestyle 24/7 in diapers. The moment they leave the house to go to work or work from home in their diapers or do anything adult, that puts the lie to their full time 24/7 baby lifestyle.