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That doctor would make bank and get overbooked!

Since its been a few years since you posted this and went 24/7, what's your relationship with faith look like now?

wow only $2000! When seeing the other operation costing $25k and possible complications and stuff, I just wrote it off. But this being actually affordable crazily enough makes me want to put this on my radar of possibilities. Hope you can recover well and let us know more!

It snowed here in Houston and everyone panics lol. I'm from the east coast so this is nothing!

oh yeah an Amazon wouldn't let you work nor would you need to! Silly me!

Whew I wasn't expecting them to actually make it back to earth. I wonder if you can work remotely for an earth job while living in the Diaper Dimension hahaha.

Why do I have a feeling Miss Kaylee is going to regress them further? This is my first story I've read of yours and its AMAZING. I need to check out your other works! Any reccomendations?

I'm going to go against the grain of what you would expect people to say in this forum. Since your new to ABDL, I suggest backing away from discussions about trying to achieve incontinence. If this is something you are simply curious about, it's better to just do yourself a favor and spend your time doing other things. Theres no benefit to pursuing this unless it's something you really need, and if it's just curiosity you should save yourself the trouble.

This is my #lifegoal right here. Needing JICDs during the day, and bedwetting at night due to a small bladder. Were you consciously trying to untrain? Because it sounds like your control weakened despite you not trying to. Were you just wearing and "choosing" to pee whenever you felt the need to pee or did you keep the pelvic floor relaxed intentionally so you would dribble throughout the day? It seems to me that people lose control even though they aren't focusing on trying to, which I find fascinating.

That would be a great business idea. I can imagine an untraining device selling like hotcakes on etsy...I'd be the first buyer

omg I love this story. I like how she's going to end up in preschool, but not because of the classic trope of just being put in preschool for being a baby. I'm guessing she's going to get treated like the other preschoolers for one reason or another.

uh oh breastfeeding incoming

I've always wanted to try out arduino, both for recreational purposes and diaper purposes since I'm a competent programmer but don't have hardware skills. Thinking of messing around with arduino now...

This looks incredible. I've always had the idea of attempting to try to make something like the this after reading "The Trainer" story, but I lacked the knowledge/creativity to know how to do it. You should master this design then sell it haha or make blueprints.

I remember reading a story in which the girl tried to retrain by holding as long as she should while still wearing diapers in an attempt to strengthen her control. Do you think this would be a more viable way to retrain instead of always having to be near a bathroom? Though as someone who is continent, even I find it harder to "control" myself when diapered, so I can only imagine how much more difficult that would be for you if you were to attempt that. But at least that way accidents wouldn't be an issue, but it would be easy to be lazy and not try to hold it.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't have to be perfect at peeing as much as possible since any level of reduction of holding the bladder will still be effective in drastically reducing control. Like if I use lets say max 25% of my bladder capacity instead of max 5% by peeing as frequently as possible, that will still be effective. That said, majority of the time I don't plan on holding more then 5% of my bladder capacity anyway, but even if I did use up to 25%, the other 75% of control would wither away which would leave me needing diapers in atleast some circumstances instead of 24/7 which a max 5% usage would do.

So I don't actually want to achieve full incontinence, but instead I want a much weaker "than normal bladder" to the point where I need pullups all the time for "just in case" and diapers for bedtime and when I'll be in public for longer than a grocery run. With everything I mentioned in the original post, this should actually be very easily achievable. Making this the goal removes a lot of the more difficult aspects of untraining: keeping reversal kegal state 24/7 and never letting the bladder fill at all. I want your guy's opinion but I think my goal is achievable even if I don't reverse kegal all the time, and peeing every 30min-1hr should be sufficient instead of dribbling as frequently as possible. This level of untraining is much less taxing physically and mentally, as well as more forgiving. Its also easier to reverse.

I've broken down untraining into a few categories and want to know what you think. 1. Functional/Lifestyle This is all about the act, feeling and routine of wearing. Getting used to the bulk, dealing with heat, changes, having the right diaper on stock, etc. 2. Bladder capacity Your bladder capacity is a muscle and it is trained simply by having some level of an urge to go to the bathroom, and holding it instead. Naturally by wearing diapers the bladder capacity will decrease since you are only using say 10% of your max capacity. It is no different than doing a bench press. If someone can bench press 200 pounds, but stops doing it for a year, their max bench press will decrease. The trick here is that they won't know what their bench press capability is until they attempt to do a bench press. Untraining is the same way. Many report that after months of untraining, they feel as if they have made no progress. They only notice some changes when they test themselves by wearing underwear, only to find that they frequently have to go to the bathroom, far more than that of a normal adult. By wearing diapers continuously, you will have no insight into your loss of bladder capacity, but be sure that it is happening since you are not holding it to max capacity any more. Although this alone is not enough to cause incontinence as recently potty-trained toddlers have significantly smaller bladders then us, but we still consider them potty trained. The only significant different (other than bedwetting) is that they have a more frequent bathroom schedule then adults. So reducing capacity will only result in more frequent trips to the bathroom, but it's unlikely that you will NEED diapers except in circumstances where a bathroom will be unavailable for an extended period of time, in which case a pull-up would be helpful for "just in case". 3. Reverse Kegel/Weak pelvic floor Keeping the reverse kegel state will weaken your pelvic floor and is where accidents start to happen, unlike reduced bladder capacity. It is also a necessary prerequisite for unconscious dribbling/small wettings, which also helps reduce bladder capacity. With only weak pelvic floor but strong bladder capacity, you may have some leaks. Now combine with a decreased bladder capacity and that's a potent combo for frequent accidents since you will have urges far more frequently, and reduced capability to resist those increasingly frequent urges. 4. Frequent wetting This point seems to me to be more about training the nervous system to more frequently send signals to the bladder to void, even when it only has a drop of urine in it. By keeping the reverse kegel state and "consciously choosing to void" as frequently as possible, your training your body to do this automatically without having to "consciously choosing to void". So this isn't really about the physical changes but a mind-body connection which I think is actually harder to reverse if you want to retrain.

Oh wow didnt know you were in Texas. We just got power back today as well. I was hanging out at lifetime fitness cause they had power for most of it. Having to wear during all of this must of sucked. Crazy how bad it was and how long its still taking for people to get power.

Yeah its like you gotta actually want it and put in the work to be able to achieve diaper dependency. I've just started taking it seriously and I'm pretty hopeful that I can achieve progress much faster then others because I'm intentionally focusing on keeping the pelvic floor relaxed which I've gotten really good at. I can pretty much keep it relaxed almost 24/7, but it still results me in staying still more often then I want. I'm breaking this barrier by intentionally doing small dances/mobility exercies while practicing a relaxed pelvic floor. This intentional practice should make staying relaxed easy all the time no matter what. I'm also intentionally tackling the internal sphincter by very frequently doing: calm breathing -> triggering PNS -> bladder contracts while almost empty -> small dribbling pee. This repetition is necessary to rewire the nerve endings to your bladder to fire more frequently, causing your bladder to contract more and more often. This also will cause your bladder to not fill so it will shrink as well as contract more frequently which are both necessary for incontinence. Basically you are increasing your voiding frequently, which if done consistency will become automatic and will stop taking so much effort like it currently does. Combining these 2 and targeting them directly should lead to quicker results then allowing incontinence to happen by itself over time.

I actually found this thread because I was thinking about how important the SNS is since it is what controls the internal sphincter. Focusing on calming down and letting your bladder retract is far more effective than just keeping the external sphincter relaxed I've found, the same conclusion you found. I think this is important to focus on since untraining the mind-body via the nervous system is really what pushes us down the path of incontinence. Since making this post have you discovered anything new in regards to the nervous system and untraining?

What an incredible update. You've came along way since your last update. What interests me the most is that you and many others who have gotten to your stage don't actually regret it. Its a common thought even in my own mind that we want it so much, but once we have it, we will wish we didn't make ourselves incontinent. I don't know if its just "dealing with it" is easier than the thought of retraining, or we do actually prefer being diaper dependent. Its a question I ask myself if I really should commit to untrianing or not.

Thanks for the update! Have you considered trying another day in panties to see how your control compares to the last time you tried panties?

Can I be added as well? @spookyhotdog

I haven't gotten through all the chapters so far but I just had to comment. I LOVE this story. I love that its a mommy dom relationship but they are still adults. Partly why I like it so much is that everything in this story is basically the dream relationship for me.