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Sorry spark to pick you up on this, but you seem to be missing a huge point here. When the cost all the extras that you have no alternative but have to pay for is included, Ryanair prices are over 150% dearer than their nearest rival. Please see my post http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.ph...st&p=187942

Welcome BabyAdam_21. * Gives BabyAdam a baba of juice and a rusk * Hope you have loads of fun in this playpen

I wear Tena slip maxi or cloth at night and almost never wake up dry. The only reason I wear disp at night is if I am too tired to change into a cloth diaper. As a previous poster stated, cloth never leak overnight - and I can attest to that (40+ years wearing and NO leaks in cloth overnight)

A lot of posts here (Moogles / spoonchicken etc) are correct in what they say - think strongly and clearly about your intentions. Will you not doing this affect your relationship with your b/f and if so, is that one of the reasons that you want to do this. Do this if, and only if, you want to, and not to please or conform to someone else thinking. 24/7 diapers will affect your ability in the long term to reproduce. Consider ALL your options, and if you still think that you want this, try it for a week/two trial. If it works, enjoy.

Adult baby / Uncle to a few adult babies / male from across the puddle. I am a true Irishman born and reared in Dublin, Ireland. Would like to meet other like-minded individuals, but still enjoy the rapport that goes on here. If you're wondering, the picture is Theodore, my life-long companion. More about me is within my profile. PM me if you want to talk / need advice etc.

As another post stated, the company in question is called 'Ryanair' run by a 'Micheal O'Leary'. It is a common misunderstanding that this company is Irish. It IS NOT, NEVER WILL BE, and we Irish are ashamed and humiliated that the companies head office is on our Emerald Isle. To clarify, this company charges you for * check-in, * credit card transaction without any other option to purchase tickets * transport from its list of airports in the middle of nowhere to a backstreet in a main town, * all luggage including hand luggage * food and drink on flights yet bans all food or drink to be carried onto a flight * in cockpit entertainment * seat location without an option to not chose * airport taxes and charges * fuel surcharge * name change * time or flight change NOW toilets and anything else they can, yet they advertise the price of the flight is $0.99. They offer NO guarantee that the flight will even take place, and will change/cancel flight time and gate number at their own whims. Any compalint to the company and you will be lucky to be entertained, but remember, the complaint line is a PREMIUM number charged at $2.50 per minute. If you succeed in getting a refund, all that will be refunded will be the advertised cost of the flight '$0.99' A post stated that their tickets are dirt cheap. In comparison to most others on the same route counting all costs, Ryanair on average are twice as dear as their nearest competitor. In my humble opinion, DON'T EVER TRY AND FLY RYANAIR

Since a lot of people here tend to undergo leaks in some situations, the solution is simple. Put the diaper on correctly. This is NOT as easy as it seems, as full instructions are never given on the packages/ literature. If you are going to be mainly lying down - ie in bed etc, place the diaper on with more of it up your back than your front. The way you will be sure that this is correct is that the tapes are higher up the front of the diaper. If you are going to be mainly walking etc, put more of the diaper up the front rather than the back - ie the tapes will be lower on the diaper. Sitting, you need to make sure that your diaper is the same level both front and back. On all of these, without folding the diaper correctly before putting it on, the diaper will leak. With an adult diaper, open it up fully - that includes un sticking the leg gathers etc that get stuck down from the compaction in a diaper bag. Also, a diaper is more absorbent if it has had a chance, maybe a day or two, to expand back to its original ie outside its diaper bag. The packaging tends to compact all the absorbent material, which makes it almost useless. Once that is done, crease the diaper lengthways. This has the multiplel effect in creating a pocket in the centre of the diaper to allow it to absorb at its own pace, allowing the diaper edges to fit tighter into the crook of your legs, reducing the constriction of diaper to your skin. If after all this you are still getting leaks from sitting/moving when the diaper has not reached it capacity, over the diaper wear either a loose fitting cloth diaper and plactic pants or a pair of cotton breifs/boxer shorts and plastic pants. This can easily absorb the weepage from a disposable as most will weep when full even through the plastic backing. The failures of a disposable are all due to the high pressure packaging involved. The gel beads tend to put tiny pinholes in the protective barrier - the fluff is compressed so tight it cant absorb anything, and the folds are the source of leaks since that line is almost imprinted into the diaper. However, once an adult diaper is soiled, the fats in adult stools tend to prevent urine from passing into the absorbent fluff, and any heavy wettings that occur most always involves in leakage. Adult diapers are not designed like baby diapers - form fitting. This is nothing to do with the diaper design, but more to do with the human design. A baby has baby fat on its diaper area which tents to form a seal between the diaper gathers and the babies skin. An adult does not have this luxury. Also, diapers for adults are not made in the same proportion as baby diapers are for babies. Adult diapers are designed to be discrete, one wet/soiled - changed, and for semi-mobile patients. Baby diapers are designed for active moving babies, and still they tend to leak, but a babies wet diaper leaking does not usually cause the child any concern - and a parent will change the child's clothes if needed. The idea of using a stuffers (baby diapers/ pads etc) inside a diaper only increases the absorbency if the adult diaper is one or more size larger than normally worn.

UTI ( Urinary tract infections) and diapers causing them is a myth. In simple terms, a UTI is a bacterial infection in your uretera. This part of your body has not got an active immune system working there, so the act of urinating will keep this sterile. Also, urine IS sterile. UTI are caused directly by something carrying bacteria into your urethra ie a catheter or something else. Good hygiene standards - cleaning the diaper area well after a wet OR soiled diaper, using rash cream (most dont prevent rashes, but they do kill bacteria which aids in the healing of rashes); well hydradated diet will all keep them to a minimum. Females tend to get them more often than their male counterparts and this is usually due to the cross contamination of fecal mater onto the urinary tract. To avoid this, wipe from front to back. Usually, with a soiled diaper, one can use the wet part of the front of the diaper to clean up the bulk of mess. Cranberry juice works to reduce/eliminate UTIs cause cranberries are a natural diuretic, and the more urine you produce, the more the urethra is washed out. Increasing the amount of liquid in your diet will eliminate their creation. - Drink more water.

As others have stated, there is no direct correlation to a cholecystectomy (gall bladder removal surgery) and fecal incontinence UNLESS there were associated complications. Most cholecystectomy surgeries are currently preformed laparoscopicly (via keyhole surgery) and as such, complications are rare. Normal temporary side effects of laparoscopic surgery can include indigestion etc or in extreme cases, an over active or over sensitive bladder. However, there is about 1% of operations that cause other problems which may involve the surgeon to access the gall bladder via an alternative route. Some incontinence may be caused by such, but this is normally a temporary effect which clears up over a few weeks. What you may be referring to as fecal incontinence could be diarrhea, which about 15% of patients suffer from until their digestive system adjusts to a new diet.

Intimacy, or more correct, the expression of love is or should be based on love rather than lust. As a result, your or your partners incontinence / choice or need to wear diapers should not be a problem. All it takes is mutual agreement, and as both of you are consenting adults (chronologically), a decision is made when fully aware of all consequences. I am fully incontinent, 41 year old, have had a few close relationships and never has diapers ever been an issue when it comes to intimacy. In relation to males being able to urinate while erect, yes they can. The action of arousal will release the external sphincter while usually the internal sphincter is held closed. If you wish to, and have the control, you can contract the detruser muscle (bladder) and open the internal sphincter muscle thus allowing you to void. However, this takes extreme fine muscle control which most don't have. It is usual for an incontinent person, once aroused, to void the bladder as part of arousal, whereas a continent person will close their internal sphincter muscle tighter. To quell the myth, sperm and urine can and usually do in the females body for a while, co-exist. Urine is normally at lower temperature than the rest of the human body as its storage location (bladder) would radiate too much heat and kill sperm in the testes. Most body fluids created in a host do not negatively effect on another body fluid eg sperm & saliva & urine can co-exist. However, a partners bodily fluids can and sometimes do kill sperm etc. This is one of the many ways the human body without direct brain intervention, ensures healthy offspring.

Midori, as you are aware, the plastic on most disposable diapers make noise that is mostly a distraction to the wearer. Rather than try the more expensive brands on the market - cloth covered etc, why not wear a pair of boxer shorts over the diaper. I wear 24/ due to the fact that I am completely incontinent, and what I do to mask the sound is threefold - 1 Wear a plastic pant over them. That reduces the noise created by your inside thighs rubbing the plastic. 2- Wear a boxer short or a pair of swimming trunks over that - that reduces the friction rash caused by constantly rubbing the plastic. 3- Before I put on a diaper, fold it lengthwise to form a pocket in the center. That allows the diaper to absorb close to its manufactures capacity while eliminating the rest of its movement on the body. If all that fails to satisfy you, why not start carrying a standard plastic bag in your pocket, and eif anyone questions you on the noise, you can show them the plastic bag. Nobody, to my knowledge, is aware of my diapers, and the average person dose not pay any close attention to the crotch of another - for one, that action is stereotyped as being gay, and another, a stranger is not aware of you actual stomach or butt size, so wearing a diaper, most assume that it is just your natural fat butt. It is only an ab etc that will even think that you wear. Even so, what does it matter that you wear diapers. The people are strangers and their opinion doesn't matter. FYI, I wear Tena Slip Maxi or Tena Flex Maxi. The choice is made depending on how easy it will be for me to change. As you said that you are bladder incontinent and wheelchair bound, why not use cloth diapers. Most plastic pants are whisper quiet. And if you are worried about the smell, increase your water intake. I also take 500mg of activate charcoal capsules which means that my diapers do not smell at all.

Please remember that a retail shop is not there for your benefit despite what the advertising blurb misleads you to believe. They are there as a business to make money. As a result, a shop - be it a pharmacy etc will only stock what they can sell at a profit. Depends have a huge distribution network that includes pharmacys in the US and UK. As a result, the cost to the pharmacy is less, and since their absorbency is low, the pharmacy can sell more, making more profit. How many have fallen for the 18c each product, 5 for a dollar, and bought the 5 with the presumption that you were saving money. Work out the maths. Don't worry, there are many like this in retail. What I suggest is that when shopping, bring a calculator and work out the unit cost Sorry but here is a little maths If a product costs 7.95 for 200 grams it will work out at 7.95/200 = 0.03975 a gram. Usually the 400 or 1000 gram container is less expensive at approx 34.95 for 1000 grams = 34.95/1000 = 0.03495 a gram. You may think that 0.0048 is nothing to worry about, but if you were talking about coffee, and using a jar (500 gram) a week, over the year you will save (on these figures) 500 gram a week over 52 weeks (a year) = 26,000 gram a year Buying the 200 gram jar would be 130 jars at 7.85 each = 1590.00 Buying the 1000 gram jar would be 26 jars at 34.95 each = 908.70 and the saving would be 681.30 saving in your pocket and not the retailers. Don't take my word for it, use the calculator next time shopping and see the price difference yourself.

Pollyanna, all too often, any difference however subtle - don't confirm to the ideal looks, don't behave in a certain way, don't do this or that are classed as a deformity, something to be corrected and a medical problem. How many millions of people worldwide undergo surgery to alter the way a particular part of their face looks etc. How many children are prescribed mind altering or supposedly mind calming drugs due to them being a little hyperactive. These are all differences between one and another, YET, medical science treats them each as something to be altered so to conform to some preconceived notion of what is normal. I ask you, and all, what IS normal. If you wish to be such, why did the world fight Hitler and his concept of selective breeding to create the super-race? The simple answer is freedom of choice, yet the social system is set to curtail this. Incontinence is an advantage to the body. A continent person slows their digestive system down to store their body waste within their bowels. The result is that their lower intestine absorbs what is normally waste. Over night, the body reduces its production of urine and thus increases its concentration to almost lethal levels. An incontinent person does NOT have any of these problems because every 7-12 minutes, they produce urine, and let it empty into their diaper. The normal digestive action and the peristaltic action of their intestines means that waste product is not reabsorbed. On average, a incontinent person is more healthy than a continent person. Many animals although they have a fully functioning bladder and bowels and associated sphincters, do NOT store any waste within their body. To this, I say that incontinence is NOT a medical problem to be fixed, but rather continence is. Also, it is only YOU that prevents you from doing anything. If you doubt that, compare yourself to one of the worlds greatest mathematicians, or artists or whomever you chose. You put the limitations on you, nobody else.

When I am unwell, I don't get any time off without it sacrificing my job. That is the benefit of being self-employed - you only get paid / make money when you are working, and loose money/clients etc when you are unwell. Long term sickness would bankrupt me, and i would be living in a cardboard box. Yes, I know that in some jobs, the sick benefits are pathetic at best, but think of it this way, while you are employed, you being sick will not cost you everything that you own. Still, when I am unwell, I do regress if I have someone to care for me - otherwise, I force myself to carry on reguardless while working from home with a computer and a phone. I like the concept in the company whom encourages staff, when unwell, to stay away from their place of work. It is a huge pity that all companies don't enforce this, as to do so would hugely reduce the huge spread of disease, reduce sick days, and also reduce the growth in antibiotic resistant virus, and over time, eliminate most common diseases.

A lot of people here are saying that incontinence is a handicap, and as such, something to be conquered. I was born incontinent, currently am incontinent, and will die incontinent. Did I have to conquer it - NO. Did I have to learn a new way to handle my toileting needs - NO. All you continent people needed to learn toilet training. I didn't. Who is handicapped now? I don't find my incontinence to be a hassle since I never was continent and never had to rush to answer the call of nature - it just happens. The question about running out of diapers or protection never comes up since I never have let that happen. The question of leaks do arise if I am lax about my hygiene standards etc.... but a leak in a diaper is a lot less hassle to handle, and even less embarrassing than wetting / soiling yourself in public without protection, and I sincerely doubt that there is one of the so called 'continent' people here that didn't do that at least once. It is NOT a handicap... it is a part of my life. Is breathing underwater a handicap to you - yes if you compare yourself to a fish. Pollyanna, you state that incontinence is a medical problem - how can you state conclusively that lack of bladder/bowel control is a medical problem and control of same is not? Being different is NOT a problem unless you let it be. I will shout this so you all can hear, and maybe society as a whole might notice. BEING DIFFERENT IS NOT A HANDICAP, UNLESS YOU LET IT BE ONE WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE Don't let the so called 'popular' person erode your confidence. They are nothing, you are everything.

In reply to the topic - Yes, since I am incontinent, I wet and mess 24/7 wherever I happen to be which most often is out in public or in a crowded office or meeting room. Since most here seem to be concerned reguarding the smell and effort it takes to mess a diaper - to cope with the smell, I wear disposable diapers and a plastic pants. Also, I take 500mg activated charcoal capsules on a daily basis. Others have mentioned that self may become immune to ones own smell, but good hygiene practices eliminates this. - to cope with the effort, although I have no choice when my body wishes to vacate its bowels, sometimes an involuntary grunt will accompany it. This is caused by hard stools. To avoid this, I keep myself well hydrated - lots of water - and also take 100mg of Cod Liver oil capsules daily. Nobody has ever noticed or commented on the smell of my wet or soiled diapers since fresh urine (mostly water) and activated charcoal poop doesn't smell, and what does, doesn't get past the plastic pant. Stale concentrated urine and bacteria infested poop reeks and also causes rashes. High water content fresh urine and healthy poop doesn't.

Sarahjane, the proper spelling is odourless OR odorless depending on which language you use, English or Americanised English. You will probably try and tell me that the s is incorrect in Americanised and you would prefer z. Secondly, since you seem to be aware of the contents of salt, read the ingredients on the side of a container. Most chemists etc are aware the salt is sodium chloride (NaCl) but some manufactures add bulking agents like Potassium, Magnesium etc. I have even found so called 'Low Fat' salt with increased chlorine and reduced sodium. Even so called 'natural' salts contain other elements than sodium and chlorine. As a result, natural salt (as found in vegetables etc) is not bad for you, but the stuff one coats our food with that has the trade name 'SALT' is. You also stated that 1% of humans are salt and water? Please check your figures. When salt dissolves in water, the bond between the positivity charged sodium and negatively charged chlorine atoms are temporarily broken, and both sodium and chlorine individually are poisonous to the body. Even before that, the plasma (liquid stuff of blood) made up of mainly water with added salts. Plasma is approx. 55-65% of blood volumn, and blood is what percent of a human body... I would presume that it is greater that 1% at least. Did you not know that a little knowledge is extremely dangerous - and your comments are proof of that. I am not going to waste my time or energy to correct the rest of your post. I suggest that you do that.

If you wear 24/7, cloth is an option for night wear, and stuffers of baby diapers (even the generic ones work) will make a disposable last longer / absorb more. If you are worried about the high cost of adult sized cloth diapers, why not get yourself some cotton crib sheets (as the outer), and use baby sized cloth diapers folded inside the crib sheet to make one or two multi-layer cloth diaper. Also, discount bath towels work just as well as pre-made adult cloth diapers.

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Alice-chan, Enemas, by their design, are supposed to empty your bowels within seconds/minutes. They are an irritant to your bowels which cause them to contract to expel the content. Why not do things a little slower, if you so wish. 1/ Eat a bowl of oatmeal. 2/ Take a few cod liver oil capsules (3-4 of 500mg each) 3/ Drink a few glasses of juice/water/etc 4/ Wait about 2-4 hours and you will fill your diaper naturally. Castor oil works also, but it can be very violent on the body system forcing you to empty your bowels and your lower intestine within minutes. Since it works so fast, it takes with it the acid that is in your digestive tract, and can cause a nasty case of diaper rash after a few minutes, and also a very full liquid poop diaper. Capsules - means that you don't have to taste the cod liver oil - which for many can cause them to vomit. Oatmeal - means that there is enough to put into your diaper - it is roughage. Juice/water so you don't get dehydrated trying to digest oatmeal, and to keep the oatmeal soft enough to pass out with little or no effort. Hope this is the effect that you are looking for, enjoy the messy diapees.

I give up.

1 - Yes you would either be wetting & messing constantly either slowly while sitting/lying, or all at once as soon as the weight of your organs put pressure on your bladder / bowels. There is no conclusive answer to the results of your incontinence as it is all dependent on one major factor - your diet. 2- Atropied muscles / muscle groups can NOT be repaired by surgery - they are DEAD, but there is a surgical alternative - artificial sphincter that one controls from outside the body.

"BK, I don't agree with your diagnosis at all. At any rate, I think you ought to be a bit more hopeful." What do you wish me to do. Lie or possible mislead wayneo? I suggested that he confirms what I stated with a urologist and a reputable medical practitioner. What else can I say? "My initial take on things is that there may have been significant pain or swelling around his nerves that has been relieved by the recent treatment." That is a assumption that you have made. Yes, wayneo stated that he is getting treatment for pain, but never stated what the pain was affecting. While atrophy is a problem, there is no muscle in the body where atrophy cannot be reversed. It will probably require some biofeedback to help strengthen the muscles in the right places, but it is possible. Where can you regrow something that has died? Yes you are somewhat correct in the fact that partial atrophied muscalar tissue can be exercised to grow new tissue on top of old, but with wayneo, we are talking abut non-usage of 17 years. Biofeedback - yes that works in about 5% of cases where the lack of usage is within 12-24 months, not 17 years. It is also used as a semi-preventive action in certain forms of muscalar dystrophy. What else would you suggest, electric inducements similar to Frankenstiens lab? However, I do agree that it in this situation it would be worth looking into a chiropractor. Would not a orthopedic specialist be a little more qualified/experienced to address the issue, with a consult from an urologist be a little more correct? "If you have an irregular spine, you don't want someone jacking with your spinal column without knowing where everything stands." I love your terminology 'irregular spine'. Normal OR abnormal growth of the human spinal column does NOT, by rule, cause pain. The pain is caused by tears of fractures within its tissue structure normally cause by either impact or stress injury. "However, chiropractors are great for many things including pain management." ..as is a dentist great for eye care, or a veterinarian great for curing cancer in humans. Pain is the humans primary notification that something is not correct. If you have pain do you try and cure the symptom and ignore the problem. Would you prescribe a person head-ache tablets if he comes into your clinic with an axe buried in his head? "If pain has been a factor in your incontinence (or numbness that led to incontinence) then it may well be worth looking into! Good luck!" I would reasonably expect that wayneo, being incontinent for 17 years, has 'looked into this' sometime in the past 17 years! littleJaina, are you, by profession, a chiropractor, or training to be one, or are you a Suse developer using the Python command line client OSC? In my humble opinion, you seem to be slightly out of your depth with your advice.

tonysplace, the quick answer is YES, but the more correct answer is no. This is due to the usage of either muscle (anal vs urinary sphincters). further information lower within post Urinary sphincter atrophy would mean that the bladder will empty via gravity rather than allow itself to fill and expand. This usually means that you weep urine 24/7 and would flood if you got up from lying down/sitting down etc. Anal sphincter atrophy would mean that you are either 1/slowly messing your diaper by peristaltic action from 30mins to 4 hours after your last meal OR 2/will mess your diaper as soon as you stand after eating a meal. The function of the anal sphincter is to allow your bowels to fill, and without it functioning, you will never fill your bowels, but would fill your diaper as slow/fast. There is no straight answer to 'what would the incontinence be like' as it would really depend on your diet - water / fiber / roughage within your stools as much as it is on your mobility etc. Think of it this way - a newborn with a diet solely of liquid - will wet/mess his/her diaper without awareness either awake or asleep, whilst a toddler on solid food, is normally, fully aware when he/she needs to mess and commonly hides before filling his/her pants. This is based on diet and sphincter position as a toddler has his/her anal sphincter normally closed and will react to pressure in his/her bowels. A newborn will normally have their anal sphincter open. If your poop is soft enough, you will also mess without awareness. It is the case, but what is also involved is peoples wishes to re-gain control. This arrests the atrophy process in the associated muscles. You don't have to answer, but your bowel control is currently, due to your time in nappies(diapers) and failure to hold, a little less than perfect - Yes? This is due to your mindset. However, if you were of the opinion that nappies (diapers) were something of a social problem, your bowel control would be close to perfect and your bladder protection would be something like light pads or pull-ups. Believe me, I am NOT judging you or condemning you. I respect your choice. For myself, I am medically qualified, and yet I am both bladder and bowel incontinent - and extremely happy. A continent person has their urinary sphincter tightly closed 24/7 and only releases it in response to their bladder contracting. The anal sphincter is normally semi-relaxed, but will slowly close as pressure is increased within the bowels. The anal sphincter is extremely poor at holding back liquid since it never closes tightly. Secondly, if you chose to wear diapers, it is easier to deal with damp/wet diapers than it is to deal with messy and potentially smelly ones. Once you get over the stigma of wearing 24/7/365, a diaper is easy to hide under street clothes be it wet of dry. However, a messy diaper is not that easy to hide, and with the average diet that causes people to force mess into their diaper, it is not very discreet to fill a diaper in public. As a result, urinary incontinent people do not become bowel incontinent unless they wish to be. - ie 1/ Change their diet. 2/Consume activated charcoal tablets (to eliminate smell) 3/Consume cod-liver oil tablets (to soften the poop & speed up digestive rhythm) 4/Increase the water content within the diet. All these ensure that their poop is soft and will pass without force or smell. I hope this helps and also dispels any confusion to the imbalance between bowel and bladder incontinence statistics.

Let me say this once and for all since you seem to all be asking this question in many forms. 1. A muscle that is unused - like a sphincter will wither. If it is unused for long enough, it will die completely. The medical term is 'atrophied'. Once a muscle has atrophied, there is NO way to reactivate it. 2. The subconscious mind will make decisions about what it needs to control. If you wear diapers 24/7/365, the subconscious mind will start NOT to notify the conscious mind of your need to void. 3. The bladder is a MUSCULAR bag, that is in a relaxed state 24/7. As it fills with urine, it expands. This is due to the urethral sphincter (muscle that is constantly held closed, and relaxes when you wish to void urine) being held tightly closed and not due to the bag reacting to urine going in to it. Therefore, if the sphincter is constantly relaxed/not being used/atrophied, the bladder will also atrophy and no longer expand. 4. The anal sphincter will follow suite. This is due to two things, the reduced of blood to the urethral sphincter, and the lack of information being sent to the conscious mind via the subconscious mind. 5. When a muscle atrophies, the blood vesicles supplying the muscle with blood constrict and reduce and eventually close thus denying the muscle with nutrients etc. Since the anal and urethral sphincters are on the same direct capillary, the reduction in blood flow to the urethral sphincter directly effects the anal sphincter. In other words, if you are in diapers 24/7/365 for a number of years, and are starting to notice a lack of control, you ARE incontinent and can look forward to further lack of control and not the reverse.