AllyCakes

[AwakenEvil]

Oh this thread is a hoot! I can say out of the orginal list of girls only one sticks out as a troll in my opinion and I am sure she thinks the same way about me .

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[Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover]

On 04/18/2016 at 7:30 PM, daddyeric91 said:

Most Girls in the ABDL community are absolutely pathetic. Some girls who star on sites such as miss pandapants, allycakes, pampered penny, Apple, ect. Are just girls who have daddys and act like there celebritys in the ABDL community and think there better then other people. Beileve me when i say they act like a bunch of ass holes irl.

Correction, some girls in the ABDL community are absolutely pathetic, as are some guys. There are plenty of women who star on the kind of sites you mention who are perfectly well grounded, and more than capable of holding an interesting conversation. I'm in touch with one that I met on here a few years back pretty frequently, and she's an absolute blast to keep in touch with, and not at all an asshole, at least not in my experience. While others do let their (perceived) fame go to their heads, and definitely deserve the same kind of humbling that the Fine Bros. were recently subjected too, I don't consider them to be the majority of ABDL females. I also don't see anything wrong with charging to create content, or paying for said content.

On 04/18/2016 at 7:51 PM, minachan16 said:

Not that I don't understand where you are coming from, but there is a big difference between an SJW and a camgirl, and while one can be both, they are not necessarily both. I can't speak for the SJW part, because I've never seen any of them really publicly exhibit SJW traits (having a tumblr does not make you an SJW), and I can't fault sites like abdreams or adultbabysource or any of the pay-for-porn ABDL sites because... well, if people are willing to pay for ABDL porn, why not?

I wouldn't call my friend an SJW (she will play devil's advocate to her own position and is capable of forming her own arguments,) nor would I call Ally an SJW, but there are plenty of SJW's in this community who are incapable of an original thought that isn't the popular talking point from their sides point of view. You can usually separate a SJW from someone who can actually form an argument of their own if they deviate from the common talking points of their side's arguments and aren't afraid to take flak for doing so. Some people do this well, while others simply do not. Also, while having a tumblr doesn't automatically make you an SJW, tumblr is a breeding ground for SJWs, especially in the AB/DL and DD/LG communities. I can't remember where this was, but I once saw tumblr rather accurately described as "porn and misandrist filth," and while that might be a bit hyperbolic, it's really not far from the truth. There's a reason why people who don't run a tumblr but view tumblrs of others tend to frequently look at it like a freak show, and that's because it tends to get pretty crazy pretty often. The primary problem is that while there are some exceptions, it really panders to a groupthink mentality where anyone with an original thought that doesn't follow popular opinion is immediately clobbered for not falling in line.

As far as the pay-for-porn sites go, I see nothing wrong with them, although I would like to see higher quality (pressed) Blu-Ray content aimed at this community. At the end of the day though, I don't have anything against porn sites, so AB/DL porn sites aren't an exception.

On 04/18/2016 at 7:51 PM, minachan16 said:

In any creative field, the #1 rule is don't give away something for free if you can make money off of it, and why should that be any different when it comes to pornography?

I'm in the creative field and I actually disagree with you on this. Rule #1 is to give just enough away to generate consistent repeat customers, even if you could make money off of some of that content. The short-term loss is always outweighed by the long-term gain if this is done correctly, as the free content can be the difference between someone paying for lots of your work, or someone going with someone else whose given away more material that better showcases what they do.

On 04/18/2016 at 7:51 PM, minachan16 said:

I'm not saying I like any of these girls, because the ones I do know of come across as very needy of public favor and attention, and I get that selfishness and need for approval are major things for a little, but on that kind of public scale, it just seems ridiculous. There's also the fact that they have basically co-opted the ABDL community with the DDLG label, and even as a baby girl with a daddy, that does tick me off. All the new tumblrs and blogs and sites are mostly DDLG and ABDL is just kind of a "niche" of that, which is just so wrong to me.

As I mentioned above, there is someone in this community who I genuinely consider a friend who would fall into the category of people that we're talking about. I don't consider her needy of public favor and attention by any stretch, and I appreciate her work as well as her creativity and ability to have an original thought. Additionally, I would argue that it isn't the need for public favor and attention that rubs people the wrong way with certain models, so much as it's the random gross lack of tact when the tin cups are out. Now my friend is gracious and polite regardless of whether or not she asks for something, but a lot of female AB/DL models are just as socially awkward as AB/DL males, and equally lacking in self-awareness when they ask for something, especially if people aren't buying their content as frequently as they might once have. Some become incredibly abrasive when they don't get their way and then can't understand why some of their followers could possibly be assholes. (Well duh, if you're an asshole you're going to attract other assholes!) The reason my friend has such wonderful followers is that she treats them like people instead of ATMs, and they in turn treat her like a person too. Now to be fair, there is an exception to the "asshole rule," which is that if you start out intentionally behaving like an asshole on day one, people already assume you'll act a bit nuts and generally just roll with it without any real backlash. This is sort of what Howard Stern did when he first made it big, he shocked everyone who heard him, alienated the people who were never going to like him, but built a fanbase around being a bit of a jerk. When I created my first blog for friends, I immediately set a tone of "fuck you, and if you don't like it, fuck you harder," because I knew that if I started by being a dick, the expectation would be that I'd occasionally be an ass and everybody knew what they were in for and couldn't reasonably bitch that they didn't, and it worked exactly as I'd hoped. This only works if you do it from day one though, it's not something you can do after you've established yourself as someone whose not a jerk. Also, while I don't mind the use of the DD/LG label, I do appreciate it when someone embraces the AB/DL label, especially the DL portion of the label even if they also do DD/LG stuff. It's okay to cater to both crowds, and to focus on the DL portion of AB/DL as frequently as the LG portion of DD/LG.

On 04/19/2016 at 0:15 PM, Prudencek said:

The girls who work for those sites and run their tumblrs do so to market their product, do you call other businesses attention whores for marketing?

Yes actually, and I'll give you an example. NBC loves to promote its new shows to the point where it beats viewers over the head with upcoming shows until several people who were interested might decided not to watch just because of how annoying the constant promotion is. ("The Blacklist" managed to recover from this, but several other shows never did, with "The Player" probably being the most recent example.) Some online services do the same thing, ("Buy our crapware, we keep promoting it every three seconds!") as do other businesses. If I feel that a business promotes its crap too often, I make a note not to buy from that business just to deprive them of a sale for something they spent a fortune beating me over the head with ads for, and yes, they're attention whores too.

[daddy ant]

On 4/21/2016 at 4:14 AM, Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover said:

On 4/19/2016 at 10:16 AM, daddy ant said:

The same people that do that also bitch about quality of pics...

If I'm paying for something, you're damn right I'm going to bitch about the quality if it doesn't meet my standards. To quote Adam Carolla, "don't do your best, do my best." I have pretty high standards as a content creator myself, but I also have a girlfriend and have never dwelled in a basement.

Okay, as for the original question, I kind of think Smarti put it pretty well.

Don't misquote me or take it out of context.

[daddyeric91]

Ive been to Abdulia camp almost every year, I am aloud to speak on my own thoughts

[LittleMissMira]

48 minutes ago, daddyeric91 said:

Ive been to Abdulia camp almost every year, I am aloud to speak on my own thoughts

[Brudda Voodu]

1 hour ago, daddyeric91 said:

Ive been to Abdulia camp almost every year, I am aloud to speak on my own thoughts

[daddy ant]

On 4/18/2016 at 4:30 PM, daddyeric91 said:

Because she is an SJW.

[Elfy]

Last warning, stop arguing with each other or you will both get yourselves in trouble. Either walk away from the thread or learn to ignore each other. I'm tired of deleting posts, next deleted post comes with a ban.

It stops here. If people want to continue posting in this thread then keep it on topic and keep it civil.

[DailyDi]

Locky Locky because some people don't know how to behave, and the topic was kinda BS to begin with.