Diapered Jason Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Religion has played an important and necessary role though out our history, but the time will come soon when we will no longer need it. Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 On Sat Oct 31 2015 02:19:23 GMT-0400, Diapered Jason said: Religion has played an important and necessary role though out our history, but the time will come soon when we will no longer need it. Link to comment
Summertime Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 20 minutes ago, Baby Brian said: I closely share the same belief in this. Very early on in the Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 20 minutes ago, Summertime said: I don't believe that even if everything is explained away by science religion will cease to exist, I'm sure, from your statement that many wish for this to happen but there will always be a need for a belief or religion. Link to comment
Summertime Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 2 hours ago, Baby Brian said: You're probably right. Even today there are people who believe the world is only 6000 years old, yet we have so much scientific proof to Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 4 minutes ago, Summertime said: I think that religion will always have the last word however "crazy" like those who believe that they'll be beamed up to a waiting space ship because even if science explains the origins of mankind there will be the "first cause" arguement. However the real worry is that there will be an Link to comment
Summertime Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 1 hour ago, Baby Brian said: Oh man. Wouldn't that be crazy if religion ended up being so extreme it gets Link to comment
feralfreak Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 6 hours ago, Baby Brian said: You're probably right. Even today there are people who believe the world is only 6000 years old, yet we have so much scientific proof to Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 20 hours ago, feralfreak said: i dont see how someone can claim the earth is only 6k years old, how do they explain dinosaur fossils? They can't. They point out the bible says the earth is only that old, and that god must have made the earth exactly as it is in a blink of an eye. Since some other religious person told them this without any proof what so ever, they have taken it on faith that, that just must Link to comment
Summertime Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 12 hours ago, Baby Brian said: They can't. They point out the bible says the earth is only that old, and that god must have made the earth exactly as it is in a blink of an eye. Since some other religious person told them this without any proof what so ever, they have taken it on faith that, that just must Link to comment
BabyWarlock Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I call myself a polytheiseist I am officialy a christian although I follow some tenets of buddhism I don't believe in heaven just enlightenment. Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 On 11/4/2015, 4:15:17, Summertime said: That's the joy of freedom of speech, Link to comment
BabyWarlock Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Because it gives people someone to blame. Religion is such a driving force behind culture, the church is the most powerful country in the world. People cling to it because it can give them hope. I would not remove religion, although I would definetly downsize it. It once acted as an excuse for the spanish inquisition to torture innocent people. The same is now happening with IS. Link to comment
Summertime Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 3 hours ago, Baby Brian said: True, but at some point one's freedom of speech starts hurting other people. We have laws to protect everyone as a whole, but at what point do you say ok "enough of your speech at the expense of everyone else". What about several million people dead? Would that be enough to shut up Christianity? What about the current Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 7 hours ago, Summertime said: It is religion that's the problem but the people who use and abuse it to promote their own warped ideology. With the Link to comment
Summertime Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 5 minutes ago, Baby Brian said: Sure, Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Um, were not actively fighting in syria you know (weapons and aid to the rebels surex but no military war for us there). In fact the rebels keep berating us for not doing enough to help them get assad out. Yeah, Iraq was so we could "secure" our oil supply and was a bully tactic for sure, Link to comment
Summertime Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 22 hours ago, Baby Brian said: Um, were not actively fighting in syria you know (weapons and aid to the rebels surex but no military war for us there). In fact the rebels keep berating us for not doing enough to help them get assad out. Yeah, Iraq was so we could "secure" our oil supply and was a bully tactic for sure, Link to comment
BabyWarlock Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It is completely stupid what they are doing! Religion is always in flux. Some people, like you said, use this power to commit mass murder. Religious wars: -Numerous english civil wars -The chinese civil war that brought the first emperor into power -The Crusades -The second world war -The war in Syria -The war in Afghanistan -This Secret War There have been so many psychopaths who got away with it because of religion. The spanish inquisition, several Popes just to name some. It is shocking what we the supposedly most intelligient species on this planet have done. Link to comment
Summertime Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 2 hours ago, TainCadioch said: It is completely stupid what they are doing! Religion is always in flux. Some people, like you said, use this power to commit mass murder. Religious wars: -Numerous english civil wars -The chinese civil war that brought the first emperor into power -The Crusades -The second world war -The war in Syria -The war in Afghanistan -This Secret War There have been so many psychopaths who got away with it because of religion. The spanish inquisition, several Popes just to name some. It is shocking what we the supposedly most intelligient species on this planet have done. There is often a misconception that the second world war was mainly religious but it was more about ethnic cleansing and leaving a "pure" and "superior" race, the majority of deaths were Jews but the Soviets, Poles, Serbs, People with Disabilities, Gypsies, Freemasons, Homosexuals, and Jehovah's Witnesses exceeded the number of Jews killed. Link to comment
BabyWarlock Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Fair enough. It's still a looooong list. Link to comment
Summertime Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 1 hour ago, TainCadioch said: Fair enough. It's still a looooong list. Sadly yes and longer by the day Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 On 12/3/2015 at 9:57 AM, Summertime said: Sadly yes and longer by the day Link to comment
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