Which method would you prefer to become incontinent?

[cathdiap]

Just curious...

[mahleedl]

I'm not convinced the results of the 12 mo program are irreversible, but I'll take slow & safe.

[wolfpup2008]

If I could, I'd chose to get successive surgeries that take me down the road of irreversible incontinence. I relate to it as a body mod.

[Inconito]

Hard question to answer....

[Spargano]

There is really only one way right now, that being the modified 12 month. Baby Brian's foray into long term catheter use showed us that that is a risky method and also one that involves discomfort. The only benefit the catheter use long term offers is reduced bladder capacity.

For me, I wish there was a safe quick method... Especially because the relaxed method requires concentration and I have no idea how to concentrate on that and remain productive in other areas of my life. How do you concentrate on relaxing when you are doing projects for work, when you are engaging in a serious conversation with friends, family, coworkers? Wetting in those situations is not an issue. But mere wetting doesnt lead to incontinence or a lot of us would be there already.

So how do you do it? How did you patrician your mind to not reinforce holding?

Spargano

[Inconito]

There is really only one way right now, that being the modified 12 month. Baby Brian's foray into long term catheter use showed us that that is a risky method and also one that involves discomfort. The only benefit the catheter use long term offers is reduced bladder capacity.

For me, I wish there was a safe quick method... Especially because the relaxed method requires concentration and I have no idea how to concentrate on that and remain productive in other areas of my life. How do you concentrate on relaxing when you are doing projects for work, when you are engaging in a serious conversation with friends, family, coworkers? Wetting in those situations is not an issue. But mere wetting doesnt lead to incontinence or a lot of us would be there already.

So how do you do it? How did you patrician your mind to not reinforce holding?

Spargano

[Spargano]

If you scroll up to Maheedl's post you will see that he and Blake Jordan modified the twelve month program slightly. When they eventually publish their guide we will all see just what the modifications are.

In particular their guide differs because they chose not to follow bowel incontinence. That's what I meant. From all the success stories here the consensus seems to be variants of that program and the stay relaxed method.

Spargano

[mahleedl]

If you scroll up to Maheedl's post you will see that he and Blake Jordan modified the twelve month program slightly. When they eventually publish their guide we will all see just what the modifications are.

In particular their guide differs because they chose not to follow bowel incontinence. That's what I meant. From all the success stories here the consensus seems to be variants of that program and the stay relaxed method.

Spargano

[DavidMW]

Especially because the relaxed method requires concentration and I have no idea how to concentrate on that and remain productive in other areas of my life. How do you concentrate on relaxing when you are doing projects for work, when you are engaging in a serious conversation with friends, family, coworkers? Wetting in those situations is not an issue. But mere wetting doesnt lead to incontinence or a lot of us would be there already.

So how do you do it? How did you patrician your mind to not reinforce holding?

[cathdiap]

The thing I really like about the stent is that no matter how hard I try not to pee it is still gonna happen. That is the fun part for me! Whenever I decide to insert the stent I will be completely out of control within five minutes after the decission. No further focus needed, 100% succes.

[Hookedondiapers]

I don't really like either option.

[cathdiap]

I don't really like either option.

[Creepymouse]

I dunno, with all the drugs that allegedly help with OAB by 'calming' the detrusor muscle, there must be one they found which made the detrusor twitchy. It just doesn't have a market. It would never get on the market, the subsection of people who would want that result is simply too tiny.

[wolfpup2008]

>> there must be one they found which made the detrusor twitchy