ozziebee

Oz, I think you need to take up a hobby (no, nappy wearing isn’t a hobby). Is it time to bust out the train set, and take it to the extreme? Or is modelling in your future? No, not that kind of modelling, but the one they (rightly) call plastic crack (no, not that kind of crack either). May I suggest, if you’re a WW2 history buff, do some research on Bolt Action. You’re welcome. Then ring me… Or maybe even put up that Yagi for some 80m/40m/20m/10m action? Or, sell the speed machine, acquire a truck, kit it out, and prepare to hit the road for small trips away (use that location of yours to advantage).

I’ve been in the middle of a crazy “experiment” of sorts, or just sheer laziness, or some sort of mental block, or something - but I’ve been chopping and changing between nappies and undies, for the past few years. Yes, I hate it. But, I can plainly see I am diaper trained, and _fast_ approaching diaper dependency. I am at a stage where if I’m wearing nappies, I will pee fairly freely. If I’m wearing undies, I can hold it in for a while, but I’m far from comfortable. My bladder is now telling me I need to pee soon. No, I’ve not full on leaked yet, but I’ve come close on a number of occasions. After going to the toot to pee, I’ve somwtimes felt pee running down my leg after my brain has suggested it’s all done, and I’ve stood up to wipe. Regarding sleep wetting, I used to have dreams where I recognise I need to pee, and am just about to do the act, but brain calls a halt, and I wake up at that point. Now I’m having dreams where I feel the sensation of wetting, where bladder and sphincters do that dance when a pee starts, and brain then wakes up posing the question “did that actually happen?” No, because I never felt the rivulets and drops of pee across my bits and butt. As for #2, I don’t hold on if I get poop urges when in nappies, and I can _ just_ hold on (using active measures), if I’m wearing undies, and the poop is hard. What is now making this all difficult is that I’m at a new client, and they want return to office. I go to the toilet multiple times a day, and I’m stressed at a change in my bowel habits towards softer poops, which I can hardly hold these days. I don’t doubt that diaper dependence is a thing!

For me, “support garments” equals: * one oversized Leakmaster pre-fold, pinned using some ABZ claw-elastic pin replacement thingies (boingo I think they’re called) * a pair of stretch-netting pants (which stops the claws in the boingos from damaging what comes next… * a pair of plastic pants over the top of it all, with the elastics tucked in. Very comfy, and that nappy aint going anywhere. Your toddler swagger may be more pronounced, however. Some people like that!

Bunnings is where I bought a packet - they had packs of such magnets in various sizes.

Oh yeah, I’m wearing full-time again, have been for some time. Though I discovered a pack of pullups, so used some of them for a bit. One very strange thing I’m finding is that when I’m wearing pullups, I find it very hard to wet them. When I switch to nappies, I can pee freely. I attribute this to the lack of confidence that pullups would not leak. But this is strange, as I started this 24/7 journey way back when by using pullups as part of my nappy strategy. I’d use nappies and pullups interchangeably. It really does come down to confidence. If one is confident in their nappy’s ability to keep everything in, it’s so much easier to “just let go”. If one doesn’t have confidence, then one will likely fight a pee urge, and we’re supposed to be relaxing down there….

Another vote for snappies, but the trick for adult nappies is to use the snappies as pins, and forget trying to use them as intended (fastening baby-sized nappies). I will often double up the snappies, but in opposing directions. I’ve actually moved onto boingo elastics. These are just a wide stretchy plastic between two of the claws that snappies have. Much closer to pinning, and far stronger than snappies. Check out the ABZ ones from Adult Cloth Diaper website. While you’re there, consider acquiring some of their Leakmaster prefolds. I have a bunch of them, and they are _fantastic_. I’ve over-sized mine, so they come right up to nearly my ribcage (a few inches above my belly button). It’s a lot of nappy, but under some net pants, and then plastic pants, and then a onesie, oh so very comfortable. In this config, I use 8 boingo snappies, 4 per side.

Stud finder for steel frames? A pack of Neodynium magnets is amazing for this. Leave them in the pack, and you’ll find it easy to accurately find the wall frames as you slide the plastic encased magnets across the wall.

The only kinds of "basements" I know of are residential towers with carpark basements. My house too (near Sydney, about 800km south of Oznl's location) is steel frame on concrete slab, which means we either need to get the plumbing in before the slab is poured, have it pre-run within the frame walls, or have it run much like Oznl completed, from cupboard to cupboard.

I've been wearing nappies 24/7 on and off now since mid 2017. I started 24/7 at that time due to leaks mostly, and being a DL decided to combat said leaks with nappies. I did go and consult with some doctors and urologists, and nothing much was found bar a kinked urethra with some strictures, and an almost non-existent prostate (I am >20yrs MtF postop). I used nappies for #1's right up into the Covid period, and had raging fights with my #2 continence during Covid. I would freely do #1's, but fought the poop urges to the point where I was in pain, whilst trying to time a poop into the toilet at nappy change time. These fights with #2 led me to the stage where my brain went "wouldn't it be easier if I didn't wear nappies"? And thus, since about 2021, I've been vascillating between 24/7, using pullups, and leaking/spotting with poop smears in those knickers, but the majority of time I've been in nappies. Yes, I have been wearing knickers from time to time, mostly because my brain screams for a break from the monotony of nappy changes, but whilst wearing knickers, my brain nags about "wouldn't it be easier to just be in nappies?". In the interim, I have to put up with fecal smearing, and urine spots/leaks, until brain demands "it's time for nappies again". At some point, I decided to stop fighting the poop urges when in nappies, and did stints of 24/7 where I'd not visit a toilet unless I was in the middle of a change. If I had a poop urge, I'd just do it in the nappy, as that's what they're for. I expected that my body's reaction to #2 would return to when I was young, having issues with fecal accidents. And I was largely ok with that. I found it easier and easier to get over that mental block to accepting the fact I'll be pooping in my nappies. Every time I get a poop urge, I'd have to consciously allow the action to proceed, much like when we're learning how to relax and wet a nappy. The cleanup was sometimes difficult and involved, making me wonder why I was untraining. I've discovered a few things about untraining #2: * Taking a chlorophyll supplement meant poops were not as smelly. In the long run, this meant I gained confidence in the decision to untrain #2, knowing that I would have more time to get to a position to do a change. I've not suffered from a situation (yet) where I'm out in public and had a poop urge, and so I'd question why untrain #2 if it led to so much embarassment and difficulty. But if the smell was removed from the equation, even though I knew I'd done a poop, I'd have time to get away and deal with it. * If I get an #2 urge, and I'm standing up, there's not a lot I can do about it, especially if I'm wearing a nappy. If I'm not wearing one, it takes a lot of effort to suppress the urges, but I still end up with some leakage and smearing regardless. * If my #2 is at all soft, I cannot hold it, whether I'm wearing a nappy, or a pullup or knickers. I am at the stage in my untraining journey where I normally do not get pee urges. I can be sitting or standing with no pee urge sensation, no feeling of needing a wee, when all of a sudden my bladder decides it's time to release. I am not at the stage where my bowels just release. I get some sensations in advance, like my bowels gurgling away, or some uneasiness down there, and a few minutes later pressure will build, and I know a poop will be imminent. My bowels are also fairly regular, with a movement somewhere near lunch time. Today however was an exception to that. I'm sitting in my office at home at 9am, working away, when all of a sudden I felt _external_ pressure as my bowels ejected soft stool into my nappy, which was filling up and telling me that hard matter, not water, was pressing into my butt cheeks. Yes, I had experienced bowels gurgling away, but not this morning. No warning whatsoever, no sick feeling, no uneasiness. I'm also sitting down, which usually means internal pressure builds (like a fart), and thus I know something is about to happen. Not this morning. No pressure buildup. One minute I'm typing away, the next minute "did that just happen?". As @oznl would say "no executive decision was granted before the incident occurred". I don't know what to make of this. On the one hand, I'm concerned about this new sign of progress, knowing that if it's happened once, it'll happen again. On the other hand, I'm excited for it, as it shows a level of progress in untraining. Or it could have just been a genuine accident?

I didn't think that was allowed on here? Post a story synopsis, and refer to elsewhere for paid versions, without also posting the story content in full here over time?

I don't know how much you know about how forums and their software works, so I will keep this simple. This topic has 85 pages of posts. When you browse to the topic, clicking on the topic title, you will get page 1 of 85. If you browse to the topic by clicking on the big dot just before the topic title, your browser will open the topic at the last known spot you have read to, on the page you have read to. All posts within the topic from that point on to the end will be new posts. At no time does the forum open the _entire_ topic, loading all 85 pages, only to show you the last page of topics. The forum software will only ever query the backend database, and load the page and posts within that page, that you are requesting to see. No bandwidth wastage. This is how forums can work quickly and efficiently with topics in the thousands of pages, and posts in the hundreds of thousands. Move along now, dear, as your argument has been answered.

Speaking of “stages”, or steps, or phenomena being experienced, I had a bit of a discovery this morning. I’m lying in bed reading on my phone, when my bladder decides to initiate another wetting. Sometimes I’ll feel drops, and other times spurts, and now a bit rarer, full bladder emptying floods. I’m experiencing more of a few drops, to a few more, and a few more, maybe a gentle trickle or two, spaced over about 5 to 10 minutes or so. Sometimes my bladder screams at me with pee urges, and next second a few drops will be felt, and more and more over a long period of time. What I realised this morning though was the distinct lack of the muscle clench, either right at the start of a wee episode, or at the end of one. I feel a wee stop, and then nothing. Once or twice experiencing this would be novel, but Im now feeling this all the time - no clench, just a feeling of openness. It’s certainly a not unpleasant feeling. Quite nice actually. Maybe this is another phase? I’ve also been noticing that I’m not having to push as much when experiencing a bowel urge, especially if it’s at all soft. New experience here is soft poops just come out with little advance warning, but I know when it occurs. Sometimes these urges are so powerful I’ve no chance to stop or fight them. Finally, when I’m in a nappy that I’m comfortable in, and confident that it’s not going to leak on me, I’m more inclined to just let my body do it’s things, than to fight the urges (being too afraid a flood will leak, or the nappy feeling too full and one more wee will leak everywhere etc). Confidence in one’s nappy to contain everything means one doesnt worry when or where a release occurs. Are you experiencing the muscle clench thing still?

An extra 2hr round trip from the GC to Sunshine Coast, in my new truck? Yes please! Done deal! (I do wanna go up there to scout out some caravan manufacturers)

And this paragraph right here is the entire reason I feel a lot of people on here haven't understood where Reddy is coming from. Absolutely brave stuff. It would be far too easy to become a social hermit, rather than face the issues, deal with them at the time (or over time), and move on.

Oh no! That is no good! What am I to do when I head up your way next?