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I've gone running in diapers a few times. My course varies between 4 and 6 miles. I've never had a problem with chafing, but found that certain brands have a tendency to fall down! (I forget if I was wearing a brief over top or not.) My everyday diaper is the Wal-Mart Assurance brand, which works well enough. But I tried the Attends w/Waistband twice, and found myself always tugging them up! And while I haven't been running in over a year, found that physical activity of any kind is hard on the leak guards...at least for the cheaper brands.

Welcome back! Yeah, hard to stay away, isn't it? I've actually been away for about a year and a half, and was going to post my own message here when I found yours. Various things going on in my life persuade me to put my DL desires aside sometimes, but I'm usually a little bolder after each comeback, which I think serves me well. This time around, I may just try for 24/7...

I suspect others will have better suggestions, but I've always found Depends to be really noisy, that bit of plastic in the back between the waistband and where the padding ends flexes too much. A second vote: I recall that old Tena diapers (when they were called Promise?) came in green (and blue?) plastic that was close to that of a heavy-duty trash bag. Very noisy. But they've disappeared long ago, unless you can find them on EBay.

I agree with the other posters, but am curious about one thing: after 10 years, why do you feel a need to tell them now? Did anything happen? I didn't start buying and wearing diapers until I moved out of my parents' house, and to this day they don't know...which is fine as it's really not important. On the other hand, I do have a desire to tell my sister, mostly because I've been wearing diapers more often lately, and the next time I visit her out of town, I will likely be "sealed up".

I'd probably prefer to start slow with stress, and then work from there.

I'll add to what SuperDiaperBaby said about fear. You probably don't realize it, but the paranoia you're expressing is exactly what some people go through when they first become incontinent: "everyone is looking at me...am i leaking...everybody can hear me...do i smell...there's no way I'm going out with my friends tonight...i'm just staying home." And they withdraw. If you want to wear a diaper outside the house (and nobody's saying you have to), you take on the burden of someone eventually spotting you, having a public accident, changing in a public restroom, etc. You can't have it both ways. The trick I use is to be a little militant: think "this is the way I am, and if anyone has an issue with it, it's their problem, not mine". I also enjoy the "Most Embarassing Moment" threads on these boards, to mentally put myself in that situation and decide how I'd react. Everybody gets teased sometimes. Everybody gets embarassed sometimes. The trick is to not mind it, to be able to laugh at yourself, and brush it off. As for your atmosphere at work, it sounds like those guys never left high school! I've been a DL since I was 13, and remember back then briefly scheming how to order diapers from the Sears catalog (do you even know what I mean? ). It wasn't do-able then, and I've been blessed/cursed with the ability to put things off. I instead made homemade diapers, and didn't actually buy my first pack of disposables until I was 29! Since then I've done a lot of catching-up, to the point that nowadays I've done just about everything in diapers except wear to work, but am still considering that. My point is that you won't be at this company forever, and hopefully you can wait. That also goes for issues at home. Since I never wore at home, it wasn't an issue, and now it's not important to tell my parents about what underwear I like. And yes, I can relate to being the quiet, geeky kid in school. You learn to blend into the background. But after college and after a few life experiences, I'm virtually the opposite now. I'm still often type-B, but can be type-A if the situation calls for it, and sometimes people can't shut me up! And I've also grown pretty good at pretending to be athletic! Give it time. I think you said elsewhere that you're in California? Maybe you could look for some local AB/DL friends to increase your pool? Sorry, never had that issue with a s/o, but hopefully your current g/f is a keeper and a lot more mature. I hope that helps!

Maybe somebody else can be more precise, but AFAIK if you're not getting a hint of an erection, there shouldn't be any hidden forces at work. During the ~2 years I put my diapers aside, I was often still masturbating to one diaper fantasy or another. When I started wearing them again a few months ago, this put me in the awkward situation that when I'm sleeping and get the urge to pee, I wake to both a bursting bladder and a stiffy. At 19, your system may still have a hair-trigger on it, but being awake should certainly help. How long have you been trying the "wetting while laying down" thing? A few months? How regularly do you wear and wet a diaper, roughly once a day or less often? I'm out of practice, but using the "deep breath, then exhale slowly and relax muscles" trick always works for me, although it can take up to a couple minutes. A few nights ago I wet my diaper while laying on my stomach, for the first time in years. In that position, I've always assumed you tend to, umm, crimp the mechanism, so that certainly felt like progress. I still think you just need to give it more time. When I was in high school, I practiced for over year at raising my eyebrows independently (aka. Mr. Spock), and did eventually get control over those muscles. Yeah, it's likely possible to gain better control over the bladder sphincter...but only with lots of practice. Here's a suggestion that just came to mind: have you ever tried full-body relaxation exercises? Sometimes high school gym classes or health classes will do this. Basically, you lay on your back, making yourself as comfortable as possible, then begin by relaxing your feet, then maybe 30 seconds later, your calves, thighs, etc. and slowly work the whole way up and remain in that state for several minutes. That's the kind of relaxation I apply to my groin area, hoping to hit the sphincter, too. Perhaps worth a try?

I've had a handful of sightings, but none very interesting. Most have been of elderly people. Here are two of the more interesting ones: I was at the mall and leaving in a hurry for some reason. As I exited through JCPenny, I passed a couple in the ladies clothing department. The man was perhaps in his early 40's and apparently helping his wife shop. He was fairly thin and wearing tight jeans, and his diaper area bulged in every direction! Cloth diaper, had to be! I don't know what he was thinking. On another occasion, I entered a supermarket on a Saturday evening, and a Chinese family was just ahead of me, a mom and three kids. The youngest was a boy probably 6 ot 7, and his t-shirt was short enough that if he moved his arms in any meaningful way, it rode up slightly. I don't know how I caught it, but just at that moment his t-shirt went up, and there was a white thing sticking over top of his elastic-waist jeans. It jutted up, continued for maybe 4 inches, then jutted back down again. I got just the one look, and have debated it ever since. I don't know how kids' diapers are cut nowdays, but this looks just like the elastic waistband on the back of my Wal-Mart diapers. If it wasn't a Pampers/Huggies, maybe it was a store brand, too?

I've never seen an entire episode, but also don't find TWAH terribly amusing. Some of the situations and dialogue cross over from funny to just plain odd. Homer Simpson may be a dysfunctional father (there are plenty of TV), but you can still laugh at him.

There are other variations, but I can't speak about them from personal experience. For example, you can get an "all in one" cloth diaper, with the diaper and waterproof shell combined. Sometimes these are quite thick, other times they're little more than cloth-lined plastic pants. Most people don't like them because the plastic tends to wear out long before the diaper. There are also pull-up and snap-on adult training pants...try to picture the traditional kids' training pants before disposable pull-ups. I believe these are harder to find, and if you expect to use them heavily, you'll still need plastic pants. Finally, there are lots of styles of absorbant, waterproof underwear. See B4NS for some of these and lots of plastic pants. They can be quite stylish, but won't hold very much. I guess it all depends on how much you plan to use them vs. simply wear them. BTW, I'm sorry to hear about all the sh** you've been through. I'm glad you're starting to practice a bit of "if it feels good, do it" which will hopefully help you work out these issues. Good luck!

I can't help with your question, but in addition to air mail rates, you do know that the US dollar has been phenomenally weak against the Pound and the Euro for the last couple years? Particularly now. I used to buy a fair amount of stuff (mostly music and electronics) from overseas, but am trying to hold back until the situation improves (ie. Bush is out of the White House). Unless you have dollars burning a hole in your pocket (apparently not the case), I'd settle for a more common brand. I can profess to being a fan of the Tena Super (green) diapers. Some people don't like the cloth cover, and I've had trouble with the tapes pulling loose (the permanent side, not the sticky side...so I always staple them first), but they hold a lot and are reasonably cheap. I'd be really curious to know how they compare to the Ultra's, especially in a scientific test like the ones Gary @ XP Medical performed with his inventory. Very shortly, I may be looking for a more discrete daytime diaper, hehe.

Sean, I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. For a 19-year-old DL, you seem pretty bold in your approach to diapers, so I'm glad you also had the guts to talk about this problem with your mom. Since you just started college, I think there's a good chance it's due to a change in your diet, a minor illness, or maybe just stress. I hope you can resolve the situation. Most college students carry some kind of backpack, so taking wipes along with you should be a non-issue. And you do still have those pull-ups, right? Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

Don't get too bent out of shape. If I've learned anything from these boards, it's that even the best of us have the occasional accident. And yes, although it was a long time ago, I remember wetting the bed once unexpectedly when I was 17. (Never had an accident before that.) I woke up at maybe 4am and noticed the sheets were wet. At first I thought it was raining and the roof was leaking! I reached over and turned on the light, and in my groggy state, listened for rain and stared at the ceiling...nothing. Then it hit me: "hey, I just wet the bed!" I got up and changed my clothes, but then my bedroom door opened and my dad peered in. I was a little embarassed, and we just stared at each other for a few seconds. Then he shut the door, and that was the end of it. I realized the spot on the mattress was very near one side of the bed (a twin bed), so I just pulled off the wet sheets and went to sleep on the dry side. I don't remember what I did with the sheets that morning, but when I got home from school, the bed was remade and nobody said anything about it. Now if you start having regular accidents, you should see a doctor, but otherwise just tuck the story away and maybe you can recite it to somebody in 20 years' time?

Being your first time, it will be special, regardless. Any mass-merchandised diaper will be of about the same quality: thin, but usable. I prefer the Wal-Mart "Maximum Absorbancy" diapers, as they're a bit cheaper and they don't crinkle as much (the padding extends higher up the back). But you may not want to stand in the Wal-Mart checkout lane for your first purchase...

If your bladder isn't contracting, why are you waking after 2 hours? If it is for some other reason (you've set an alarm clock), they drink more (perhaps with a little caffeine?) to force a contraction. To me, the problem is just that you've spent around 16 years using and strengthening your bladder muscles, and they're not going to un-train overnight. Don't look for a medical solution, but start a gradual process of moving them in this direction. Some suggestions: 1) Wear diapers as often as possible, and use them as often as possible, with the least amount of thought as possible. 2) If you can, drink lots of water during the day, and after you pee, drink more. Over time, it will give you a minor case of "overactive bladder"...or maybe it begins to shrink yor bladder, I dunno. 3) When in any unnatural position, like laying down, a common technique is to take a deep breath, then exhale slowly, trying to relax your bladder muscles at the same time. When I'm in bed, this can take anywhere from 2 or 3 tries, up to maybe 10 tries, but it does work (with practice). 4) Standing and waiting for a contraction, then laying down quickly as you've been doing, is also a good technique. Keep it going. Roll all of this together, and I'm sure you'll have a solution in a few months (or less). Good luck!

Until you do it for a while, everybody makes a bigger deal of it than it really is. Definitely wear something over your diaper, even if it's just some briefs. This will help baffle the sound, give the diaper support when it's wet, and help absorb little leaks. Plastic pants are even better, as they're much more airtight, but keep in mind that some varieties are actually very noisy themselves...in my experience, clear plastic pants can be like this. If you're still nervous, carry some coins in your pocket as a distraction noise. Go out and enjoy yourself, and stop worrying!

Definitely cloth, and through a diaper service, for myself and my younger sister. So there was never a chance of accidental "finds" while I was growing up.

It's late so nothing's on right now, but I had some old James CD's playing this evening. I'm not an AB, but "Out to Get You" (the original version), "Gold Mother", and "Lullaby" are pretty conducive to an AB mood.

Welcome aboard, Terry! I also didn't join the community (or for that matter, buy my first pack of disposables) until my late 20's. Hope to see you around!

I can't give you any first-hand advice, but have heard they can be very practical during finals...

and then 30 seconds later on the store PA system: CLEANUP ON AISLE THREE!

I don't think most of these replies have been very helpful either. I'm not calling myself an expert, but don't think you should be noticing that much of an odor in so short a time. Staying hydrated to keep your pee diluted is your best bet, but you should also consider your diet. I've read that certain foods like broccoli can add a pungent smell. I bought some fresh broccoli recently and can largely vouch for this, at least for my body chemistry. I've also read that Cranberry juice can have the opposite effect...but it hasn't quite overcome the broccoli. (Damn, and I like broccoli, too...) I wear Tena Supers some of the time, and don't have a package handy now, but am not sure they're advertised as being good at odor control. Obviously you could try another diaper. (Or if all else fails, wear a little cologne?) Good luck!

That's the one, thanks! He seems like such a cool little guy! It looks like he was hosting all his photos on Lycos, but Lycos deleted the account. I'm sure he'll get it fixed eventually.

Does anybody remember this web site, set up in maybe 2001 or 2002 by a Dutch teen baby? I've been out of the scene for a couple years, and wanted to check what he's been up to, but my URL no longer works and I assume he's taken the site down. Does anybody know "Bart" and how he's getting along? He seemed like an interesting guy. Thanks! Alan

I started body-shaving about 5 years ago, and am also (normally) very hairy. I don't shave my genitals more than once a week, and sometimes not even that often. It takes a while before you start feeling, umm, "prickly". Personally, I'd just trim the worst of it with scissors, and then very carefully go over the rest with a blade razor that's near the end of its usefulness. (I always keep two razor heads around, a fresh one and a dull one.) Yes, you'll suffer some nicks, but use lots of shaving cream and go slow, and your success will improve in time.