Vic

A comedy? are you serious? TBI (traumatic brain injury) is no laughing matter. The fact that someone would post this shows just how sick some people are. Vic

I tended to my Grandpa while he was dying, it was hard for him because he fought death so hard. My best Friends Grandpa died just a little while ago. It was totally different for him, he was rather composed and he went quickly and quietly, just the way he would have wanted. Death is different for everyone, but it comes to us all. Vic

Good luck to you, you might want to get with liljennie and go to a few munches. Peace, Vic

Into every life a little rain must fall..........just be glad that you don't (God forbid) have cancer. Peace, Vic

Do the jam packs include raspberry? I just gotta have raspberry on my tart! Peace, Vic

At the risk of being repetittive, people don't use the phrase "drunk AND stupid" for nothing. I'm quite sure that when yI'm looking at making decisions that are going to have quite an impact on my life I'll want to get good and wasted before I do that. Like maybe if I've been really, really depressed and considering (just considering) something like suicide, that the best place to go would be to a COUNTRY AND WESTERN BAR where I could get GOOD AND DRUNK to think about it and cheer me up. Then I might come out in a very inebriated state with my mind finally made up, climb into my 13,000 lb. truck and become a missile cruising along the highway at 65 mph, (another good decision), and hopefully not kill some poor soccer Mom with the team in the back of her SUV. There are consequences to our actions, and most of them once done CANNOT be taken back! That's why I highly recommend getting good and drunk before you make important decisions. One little "WHOOPSIE!", I was drunk and stupid! Might affect you for the rest of your life. But hey, you're a big boy and can make your own life choices right? Have fun out there, just remember that there is a morning after, and you could have something worse than a hangover to wake up to. Enjoy. Vic

Have you ever noticed how often people use the term "drunk and stupid" to describe some escapade of theirs that turned out badly? Or "drunk and stupid" to explain some of their friends bad behavior? I think that we CAN find a pattern here, doesn't really need further investigation. Peace, Vic

I've had some dealings with law enforcement personnel, not about diapers of course, but their attitude towards me has almost always been unfavorable . Peace, Vic Too cool for school.

It's hard to get into the spirit till we've seen the classic Dr. Suess cartoon "how the Grinch stole Christmas". Peace, Vic

Well nobody appears to want to try this out so I'm not going to have the party. I guess that's a problem with Utah in general, everybody is just too uptight to have fun. No wonder they say "eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow you may be in Utah", so much for fun. Hope you all have a happy halloween anyway. Peace, Vic

Oh no! I've had some things come up that I am obligated to stay here in Indy for for three more months, however I am going to Utah for the entire month of October. I know a great AB couple in the Salt Lake area, and I'm going to talk with them and see if I might be able to get them to host a halloween party either Friday the 29th of Oct, or Saturday the 30th. I can't speak for them as it will be an imposition and I haven't asked yet, but they might be receptive to the idea. If not I'll rent a hotel room somewhere in the Sandy area, not too far from I-15 so it's easy to find. If a halloween party sounds good to all you Utah AB's and DL's you'll have to write me and let me know. Just click on my picture and send me a personal message, as those always show up in my e-mail and I see them sooner. When I move back to Utah in January I'll be looking for a house in Cache valley, my best friend (who's closer to me than my own brother) and I are going to buy a house together. When we do that I'll be able to have parties at my own house, but that's gonna be awhile yet. Peace, Vic P.S. Don't be a fuckin Utahrd!! If you say you're coming then you damn well better show up, if you're not going to show then don't say you are!! I'm talkin to all the Utahrds out there, you know who you are!

ooooooooooooooooooh, bad, bad, bad.....I can't take this PUNishment. Peace, Vic

Uh, excuse me....but OP, I've been called many names in my time and even worse. Back in 1975 my family and I moved to a very small town who "DIDN'T LIKE OUTSIDERS". The towns kids rode this bus with me in it all the way across the valley with the towns kids calling me names and when I wasn't looking throwing things into the back of my head. I knew if I stood up for myself they would have all jumped me. I was their target for my family, as my big brother was too big and mean for any of them to want to target, and anyway he'd been able to tranfer to a different school, and both my younger brothers had each other to watch their backs. And they were in junior high and didn't ride my bus. The worse part was that I made friends with some of the girls on the bus, and they'd call me at my home and ask me if I'd called their place, because someone claiming to be me had called her father and said that I was going to fondle her three year old brother. This character assasination really got to me. What really depressed me was that my family didn't really seem to care. The next year my next youngest brother had moved up to high school and rode the same bus as me for the first couple of weeks of that school year. When they started in with the name calling I got up and beat the shit out of the first one I could reach, they all got up to jump me, but Les and his buddy Brian stood up too, and they all backed down. I had to fight a few more times on that bus, but it never killed me. Yeah being called names sucks , get over it. I've been deeply depressed for years at a time, I have manic depression, but have never chosen to wallow around in my pitty pot the way you seem to be doing. Wake up, if you're miserable it's because YOU are making YOURSELF miserable! One other thing, I'm not gonna ask how you fit a pampers 7 or tell you that a grown man wearing one is creepy, but listen up. If I see some guy, middle aged or not, fondling the packages of diapers and playing with the baby powder on the baby aisle I'm going to think that that is REALLY CREEPY, dig? Are you getting what I'm laying down? You must be a troll because NONE OF US IN THIS COMMUNITY WOULD FONDLE ALL THE PACKAGES OF BABY DIAPERS (OR ADULT DIAPERS) IN THE FRIGGIN STORE!!! It's just not done. We don't like to call attention to ourselves, and buddy that is first class attention drawing behavior, right up there with dropping your pants and crapping in public. We wouldn't do it so therefore you are one big troll, get off my site. Peace (to everyone but you), Vic

I don't know that gay or straight makes much difference, at some point in time this will come up, I'm sure of it. The reason I am so sure is the binge and purge cycle we all go through. I'm sure you'll experience it again sometime, but when you get older you'll find some balance in your diaper desires and everyday life. As far as talking with your partner you'll have to take your time and consider this topic thoughtfully. Go over it in your head as to how you'd like to be told something that you weren't aware of from him, and remember to be considerate of his feelings. Be sure to answer all of his questions as openly and honestly as you possibly can, and hold nothing back. He is your partner, would you want him to keep secrets from you? Remember that he deserves the absolute truth so answer all questions with candor, I'm sure that because of his love for you he will listen with respect, let him know that you're being totally open to him with your innermost self, that you are trusting him more than you have ever trusted another human being. How you go about starting this conversation is up to you, only you know how you should start this dialoge, but I hope all goes well for you. A person approached in the right way, where their partner lets them know how much they love them and has to share all of themselves with them, will feel a lot better than one told "by the by I like diapers". Who knows? This could be the start of a new chapter of openness and honesty between you that will cement your love for each other even more. Hey, he might even try it himself, you never know. Peace, Vic

Sorry gentlemen, if you'd care to check I was refering to diaperdragons post about scat being disgusting and illegal. I myself am a coprophiliac, but as one I recognize that for most people the subject is digusting. So I agreed with her that it is (for most out there). As far as being embarrassed by it I've always felt very uncomfortable talking about it. Peace, Vic

This is indeed a strange world, someone should sell tickets. Peace, Vic

I'm so sorry to hear of his suicide, I'm going to look up David Wallaces "Infinite Jest" and give it a read. It's so sad that many artists take their own lives. Even Bobby McFarrin who gave us the song "Don't Worry Be Happy" killed himself. The world needs more artists. You should give Kurt Vonnegets "A Man Without A Country", a quick read. It's only 137 pages in all, but very funny. The darkest of humor I assure you, you may not laugh out loud, but I'm sure you will appreciate the wit, sarcasm, and irony in this quick read. What is so funny about it is the truthfullness of it all. He shoots from the hip and calls them as he sees them, truly a good read, and only a mere 137 pages. I read it back to back three times, it's that good. May he rest in peace. Peace, Vic

Many, many times I've read threads that start out "I'm finally going to tell my wife". What can I say? It seems that so many people are afraid of honesty, they're blind to the other person in the relationships feelings, and really showing them the worst kind of disrespect. This callous disregard for them is NOT the way to behave towards someone you supposedly love so much! Two years into a marriage is NOT the time to say "oh, by the way....", If you really love someone then you HAVE to respect them. It means you owe them the truth from the very start of the time you start thinking that they might be the one you want to share your life with. Before you even think of buying a ring you MUST disclose all of your secrets, period. You have to realize that we, as diaper lovers or adult babies, are not what the mainstream of our society consider "normal". As far as a lot of them go we are pretty out there, or extremely perverted (in some people's minds). Some of us are, if you take a realistic view of some in our community. I mean anyone who thinks that girls want to feed them, dress them, keep them in diapers 24/7, and not mind changing their messy diapers, is basically a nut, but they can be found on this site. If you truly love and respect your partner you have a responsibility to tell them about your fetish. I don't mean that you just say "I like to wear diapers sometimes", but to really tell them about it. Whether you are AB and want them to baby you some times, if you want to be babied a lot, if you like to wet, or mess, I mean EVERYTHING!! There is no way that you can fail to do this if you truly love your partner, it is what you owe them if they truly are the one who you love. If you cannot do this then you are not ready to propose to them, let alone marry them. Honesty is not the best policy, it's the ONLY policy here, DO NOT LIE TO THEM BY KEEPING THIS LITTLE "SECRET" TO YOURSELF!! I know that it is hard to talk about something you've kept hidden from everybody else all you life, but you must break that silence if you really love them. It might be that they are not able to accept this about you, but better to know now than after you've trapped someone in a marriage where they suddenly feel betrayed. If you do this to someone they have every right to feel betrayed by you! That could very quickly end your marriage in one UGLY divorce!! Sit down and talk to them, let them know that this is hard for you to talk about, but you have to tell them because to keep it a secret would be wrong, (it would in fact be worse than lying to them). If both of you are truly in love they might just say "well that's different, but it doesn't change how I feel about you". They may even like the idea enough to want to participate. That's a long shot there, but you never know. The point is you have to be upfront and honest from the start. It might be the end of the relationship, but better to know now than to have both of your feeling mangled in a bitter divorce. You are the only one who can pick who you want to open up to when you're in a relationship, but if you think that the relationship is really going to go somewhere you are obligated to out yourself. It's the decent and right thing to do. Peace, Vic

Then I hate to tell you this, but if you do a search for scat on the internet you'll find a lot of scat sites. Coprophilia is a bit extreme, but many AB's like to mess their diapers, as you can tell by this forum. There are also a lot of sites for watching girls pee their diapers. It's amazing what you can find with a little curiosity and a computer. You might find coprophilia to be gross and disgusting, and I'll agree with you, it is. However there are more of them out there than you know, and as far as I know, like the desire for diapers, there is no cure. Imagine the poor sap who has to live with this fetish, I'm sure that he didn't wake up one day and say "you know what I'd like to try........" I'm quite sure that it's a condition that is extremely embarrassing. Peace, Vic

Going without a diaper? Must have been rough! No, seriously, I don't think of addiction as pertaining to diapers. I honestly feel that we are hard wired in the core of our beings (those of us who have been lifetime AB or DL), from when we were very young, and that it is not a question of habit, but of who we ARE. An addiction can be to just about anything, and I mean anything. We have people who have eating disorders, sexual addiction, tobacco, all the many types of chemical substances that are out there, and alcohol. One could be hooked on romance novels for instance, but it's once it has become an over riding obsession (worse than ocd) that it becomes an addiction. When you mentioned that you were happily divorced I had to smile, been there, done that. I don't wear diapers every day as you do, but I do have to wear them everynight as I'm a bedwetter. I usually wear them a couple of times during the week other than than that, but you enjoy wearing them all the time, I see nothing wrong with that. Diapers have always been an obsession with me, as I'm sure they are for most of us on this site, but I wouldn't say I'm addicted to them. They bring more meaning to my life, I consider them to be a part of who I am. I'm somewhere between AB and DL, and it doesn't bother me, although I feel I'm more DL with AB tendencies. My main query in the original post was about addiction because I've had addiction in my life, and wondered if some of the behaviors we have as AB's and DL's doesn't put us in a more likely position to develop addictive tendencies. Hiding this side of ourselves and leading a double life as it were, it's enough to drive you nuts sometimes I can tell you. Who of us hasn't had to keep this little "secret" of ours, when we really wished we had someone who we could talk to about it? No I'm not saying that we're "addicted to diapers, just asking if maybe we aren't more suceptable to becoming addicted to something. That's it really, and it is in no way a "fact", just an opinion I've had that I finally wondered about the validity of it. You can have an opinion, but that in no way makes it a fact. So be of good cheer and wear your diapers with pride, I won't tell on you. If you have had problems with addiction though (all you reading this), please speak up, it's really nothing to be ashamed of. Peace, Vic

George, I can't for the life of me understand how you could possibly be surprised that the kitten did this! If you get a cat things will be clawed, it's a sure thing, a lead pipe cinch. You get a puppy and you will lose something expensive when he chews it to shreds, guaranteed. If you get a pet you need to expect and plan for certain things. Remember that the pet is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, people who don't care for their pets should be held crimminally liable for them. When a pit bull kills some old lady it isn't the dogs fault, but the way it was raised, and the owner allowing it to roam the streets. People need to wake up, I've seen too much cruelty to animals. Animals are helpless compared to us humans, they can only react to the situations forced on them by their owners. Care for your pets, and spay and nueter. Be responsible. Peace, Vic

Okay, done with the pedos, I'm still concerned for the OP. Sure it wasn't a total train wreck, and that's cool and all, but I don't think he's out of the woods yet. With a little more time to process this she may have more questions, and she might feel a little cheated that he didn't explain this to her BEFORE they were married. I don't know, all could go well, but he might not be out of the woods yet. Peace, Vic

I've just read the thread on "Infinite Jest", and it made me think. Now I wonder if we're not more succeptible to addiction than others. For the most part I have to refer to my own life, and life experiences. I have known other AB/DL's but even though we talked for awhile we didn't get into really deep discussions. First off we have become fixated on an early period of our lives, this is obvious. The earliest memory I have was of being in diapers (I was about 4, my Mom kept me in diapers when I slept because back then I was a bedwetter(as I have again become) and needed diapers still), and knowing, I mean really KNOWING that I wanted to be in them till the day I died. We are all different, but at the same time we have this desire to wear diapers in common. I grew up in an abusive house, and my childhood was traumatic, but this is not true of all of us. Some of us have come from very loving families with ideal conditions while they were growing up. Most of us fit somewhere in between the two background groups, yet all of us are fixed in early childhood or infancy. Whatever the reason we've grown up with this secret side to us, (I mean, who you gonna talk to about it?) and we've lived this type of double life. Many of us have thought that this must mean that we are defective and wrong, and have had many feelings of inferiority because of this. Alcoholics and addicts often have felt that THEY were defective and inferior as well. Like addicts we look for something outside ourselves to make us happy, and we don't see ourselves as the authors to our own misery. We go around making unfair demands on others, "life would be great if so and so would only treat me better, or keep out of my way, etc". A lot of us want everything and we want it on an all or nothing level, and we turn to drink or other substances when life doesn't give us what we want. We wallow in depression, or we hold ourselves to the flame of self loathing. We store up resentment and wonder why we are not happy. It's so hard for many people to understand that the world is what it is, and you need to be okay with being who you are, and live your life as harmoniously as you know how with those about you. When it comes to resentment you are only hurting yourself by holding grudges, by forgiving and forgeting you are setting yourself free. Happiness is not being numb, excessive use of recreational drugs or drink only leads to hopelessness and death. So many guys on these boards are searching for someone who will make THEM happy by doing everything that THEY want them to do TO THEM, and then THEY have the nerve to be pissed off when THEY OFFEND OTHERS by their demands. They are far too immature to realize what it is they are doing that offends people, they never get that there is give and take in a normal relationship. Then they wonder why people are creeped out by them. AB/DL's can be really out there when it comes to reality. I know, I've read enough on sites and in chat rooms to tell you that. We're all also very different in our likes and dislikes, and are VERY offended by other AB/DL's when we don't agree with the way that they are, they don't get that all of us, have different diaper desires. Some AB/DL's just like to wear diapers, (DL's) while some like to wear diapers and be treated as an infant, play with baby toys, and eat baby food (AB's). And all of them like to do these things to a differing degree, or like to do it in a different way. Some just like to wear them, others like to wet them, and still others like to wet and mess. Some who mess are into coprophilia, others just get cleaned up as soon as they've messed. Coprophiliates are people who have a fascination with scat, or if you prefer, feces. Some of these people like to stay in the messed diaper for an extended period of time, some will even smear the feces. It's all just part and parcel of their desire to be diapered to them. So all of us are different, but in some ways we're all alike. We've all kept most of this secret from everybody, and really, that's not really healthy. Addicts like to keep secrets, that's why AA and NA have a program where you evaluate all your past misdeeds (mistakes) and share them with another. So I just wonder if growing up liking to wear diapers didn't in fact make us more likely to become addicted to other things. I don't think that wearing diapers itself is so much an addiction as I think that it is hard wired into us, but I do wonder if being this way led to the problems that I had with addiction in my life. I know a lot of AB's and DL's who like to use, and who like to drink, but I wonder just how many of us would admit that we have a problem or have had a problem with addiction in their lives. It's not something I know as a fact, it's just something that makes me wonder. It's really just an opinion of mine, but it seems likely to me because hiding things and some of this stuff are symptoms associated with addiction. Peace, Vic

It is my opinion that AB's and DL's seem to have addictive personalities. I haven't read the book, but I'll look for it at my library. The reason I feel that we have addictive personalities comes from my own observations of my own life, and from people in the community that I've come to know. Peace, Vic

Old timer too, in more ways than one. AARP is starting to send me mail, I guess tey're trying to tell me something. Peace, Vic