CBD

Hey aDLddictbby, You and anyone else who is interested into being added to the New York Diaper Group mailing list should send their first name, email, and a short introduction (age, gender, interests, etc.) to us at diapermail@yahoo.com. You'll receive the contact list and start receiving updates about upcoming meets. Thanks for your interest, CBD

How was it? Is there anywhere it can be viewed online?

I thought some people here might be interested to find out what goes into organizing a real life meet-up between diaper lovers. We, I did it! You can click here to find out how we organized it and how it turned out.

There is a lot of good advice here, though most of it is pretty basic common sense stuff. Should be required reading for newbies though ... and with that in mind, I've posted them to the links section in my blog.

True, though I'd phrase it more like: telling significant other=necessary telling anyone else=not necessary Unless you haven't got a significant other. In that case, having someone to be open about all about all this with might become a necessity. Telling all your friends though ... that would probably just = gratuitous.

Going in small amounts all the time is a lot better than holding it for a long time and finally having no choice but to let go. You bladder will be emptying constantly this way; if incontinence is your goal, this will help you there quicker. Your bladder will get used to holding less before voiding and begin to shrink. Learning to let go consciously at the first sign of any stress on your bladder is the first step toward actual incontinence.

*sigh* I don't think it constitutes a messiah complex to try to organize a fetish scene in real life for one of the few fetishes that really hasn't got one, especially in NYC. And telling girls that they're going to be raped if they try to make friends in the fetish world is not something that needs to happen. If I told you I was into guys and you told me, "You're gonna get lynched for being a fag," I'd call it harassment, not a necessity. And sorry about the generalizations, Sarah. I've heard some complaints from girls, that's all.

Oh certainly we are doing it in a public place, probably somewhere on the lower east side where they serve coffee or tea. As I said, no one is planning on wearing diapers or ageplaying. It's just an opportunity to connect with real people instead of hiding behind your computer screen like a weirdo. And with all due respect, Tris and Pete-- your comments are not only unhelpful, they sabotage my attempt to give people a healthy outlet in a community where it is much needed. It almost seems that you would rather people live in self-loathing isolation; a position which, may I remind you, many of the female members of this board feel they have been forced into against their will by the heterosexual male portion of the community. (Which it seems you are both a part of.) In any case, the one daring girl who has signed up is on this board, and I sincerely hope that your comments have not made her uncomfortable. I would appreciate it if you would refrain from this kind of behavior in the future. And Angela, I would like to thank you for your thoughtful input. You speak from long experience, and I value that.

So I've been organizing a meet-up for college aged diaper lovers. No one is going to be diapered or ageplaying this time around-- it's just an opportunity for people to meet each other and get to know one another in real life. Including myself, we have six people RSVPed-- 5 guys, 1 girl. Although six people is more than enough for a meet-up, I want to hold out for at least one more girl. I don't want her to get mauled though in the way that girls all too often are on the boards, especially because none of us have ever met in real life. Have any of you guys ever been to a real life meetup? What was the ratio of guys to girls there? Did you find that it was an issue? Oh, by the way, if you're in or near NYC and interested in attending, (especially if you are a female DL that can keep our poor lonesome girl company) drop me an email at diapermail@yahoo.com with your first name and any other contact info you want to give. (DLtown, DailyDiapers, DiaperSpace, etcetera.)

If they are close friends you can trust and hiding it from them is stressing you out, I don't see why you shouldn't tell them. I've got a close friend who used to be a pro dom that I've told. She was surprised but interested because sexual psychology is totally her hobby. Having people in real life to talk to about this kind of thing totally normalizes it. If you've found the right people to tell, then go for it.

Yvhuce and Pete ... you guys are crazy. Amy Sedaris is one of the funniest people ever, second only to her brother.

http://www.amysedarisrocks.com/transletoct03.htm This transcript of an interview she did on Letterman is from way back in 2003, but I though it was interesting enough to post here. In it, Amy Sedaris says she bought some baby clothes on eBay that came wrapped in an adult diaper for padding during shipping. This is pretty weird, especially because clothes aren't generally in need of padding during shipping. They aren't exactly breakable. Maybe they were for her? I might have dismissed this, but there is also this ridiculous amputee/diaper fetish photo she posed for: It's over the top enough that she could just be making a joke about the bizarre nature of fetish photography, but it's enough to make me wonder ...

Same here. Always glad to help in the area of writing, organization, etcetera.

Talking in all caps makes you look pretty dumb. Also, if you are going to make up stories about spankings and whatnot, please do it in the "Storytime" section of this site. Thank you.

And now Diapoo doesn't recognize me anymore and I can't get on. Great.

When I joined, if found that the forum was empty (apparently wiped clean by some kind of change to new boards) and that the Bambino discount code was gone. I tried posting on the forums about it, I tried emailing the admins, and I even tried asking their Bambino representative on Diapoo. No luck on any of these fronts. Does anyone know what is up with all of this?

This is why the terminology used to present Diaper/Age Play/Incontinence community needs to have some wiggle room. Obviously, there is no good way to make the entire community participate constructively. The people involved (be they three, four, or fifty) need to be sensitive to that fact and emphasize that our community is a varied one. However, this in not an excuse to say "How can you put us all into a box together? We are all so different. Why even bother?" Of course we are all different ... but no more different that the people of the LGBT or BDSM communities. No one pretends like gay people or kinksters are all into the same things or feel the same way about their sexual alignment. That's what makes them a community; their alliance turns a collection of tangentially related subcultures into a unified group that creates a network of education and support. THAT is why we should bother. The idea of the site we are talking about is that it will NOT merely represent "solely the views of the creators," but educate people both within and outside the community that Diaper/Age Play/Incontinence aligned people are all different but that these differences do not separate them from each other and should not separate them from people who are not Diaper/Age Play/Incontinence aligned.

Wow, you guys are getting pretty nasty. Dependable, I laughed out loud at your post ... and it is certainly true that Diaper Dragon is calling all of this down on herself by stating that people who have peed in public, and (in some states) sold sex toys or engaged in oral or anal sex should be locked up for life. But seriously guys ... wishing death on each other? Calling each other bitches and cunts? Someone needs to click the hell out of your "warn" buttons. If I was a mod looking at this discussion, there would be bannings and deleted posts across the board. Not to say I disagree with the people who are calling Diaper Dragon out, but seriously guys ... you are adults. Calm down and don't feed the trolls. And by the way, Diaper Dragon ... I'd suggest you lighten up. Just because this board is about infantilism doesn't mean you can act like a petulant child when you're on it.

To put it simply ... if your boner is a problem, just take care of it before you put a diaper on. Most people have to pee after they have an orgasm anyway because it clears the urinary tract and prevents infections. If you need further help with training yourself to use a diaper, the definitive document can be found here: As a webpage As a .pdf file

Well, think about the term LGBT: Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender It isn't really an attempt at finding a blanket term for everyone. The phrase DW is much more like "Queer" in that it is nonspecific. The various groups covered by the acronym LGBT are not the same ... transgender people are not necessarily gay, etc. It is a good term because it expresses an alliance between people who are different. Breaking down the term BDSM is another example of this kind of thing. As wikipedia puts it, "BDSM is a complex acronym derived from the terms bondage and discipline (B&D, B/D, or BD), dominance and submission (D&S, D/S, or DS), sadism and masochism (S&M, S/M, or SM). BDSM includes a wide spectrum of activities and forms of interpersonal relationships. While not always overtly sexual in nature, the activities and relationships within a BDSM context are almost always eroticized by the participants in some fashion. Many of these practices fall outside of commonly held social norms regarding sexuality and human relationships." I guess that's why I would rather see something like DAPI that doesn't shy away from the varied nature of the community. The idea of "Alternative underwear" is a good one, but it might be better if it was altered to be something like "Alternative Toileting" for people who wear regular underwear and just want to wet their pants. That way it would function as an even broader blanket term than DW and be closer in use to queer.

Anyone with very much experience in the ABDL scene will tell you that The Twelve Month Diaper-Training Program is the only safe and effective way to archive incontinence. Riley Kilo (who speaks from experience, having actually achieved regular bedwetting) has a few things to add, but overall the method she describes is the same. Don't do anything stupid involving sedatives, surgery, botox, etc. You'll regret it, or worse, hurt yourself and end up in the "Diapers in the News" section of this site as one more person giving our already maligned community a worse name.

Um ... as far as I know, babypower is meant to be used on genitals. Unless you have found a new way to wear diapers, this is usually where they are on your body. As far as causing irritation, this is the opposite of what baby powder will do; its entire purpose is to prevent irritation. Cancer alarmists will tell you that anything has been "linked" to cancer, including florescent lights and half the foods you consume on a regular basis. If baby powder had been scientifically proven to cause cancer, they would say "proved," rather than linked, and this information would be everywhere because the whole world uses baby powder on their babies. Baby powder is FDA approved for safe use on genitals. It's fine. Christian fundamentalism keeps it from being taught in a lot of places. I grew up in Kansas, and the education there was abstinence only-- which I completely oppose.

A couple of the threads here seem to have fallen into debate about what terms are to be used as the community gains more attention. The word infantilism is getting tossed around as a blanket term, but one or two people voiced objections to that and I think I'm going to agree with them. Infantilism holds a connotation of ageplay, specifically ageplay as an infant. One of the biggest things I think we probably want to emphasize is that as a community we play at a range of ages. The terms "Adult Baby" and "Adult Kid" are divisive rather than unifying. It seems better to use the broader term "Age player" as it is both gender and age neutral. A couple of people started breaking down the various categories in different ways. I guess I'll do my take on that here. Diaper Lovers Diaper Lover (DL) - used to indicate people who enjoy wearing diapers beyond what society considers the age of need. This includes incontinent people who need the diapers, fully continent people who do not, and everyone in between. This is the broadest category because it includes the entire diaper community, including crossover fetishists from the BDSM and medical communities. Ageplayers Adult Baby (AB) - used to indicate people of either sex who play under the age of three. Adult Kid (AK) - used to indicate people of either sex who play between the ages of three and eighteen. Teen Baby (TB) - used to indicate people of either sex, whose biological age is between thirteen and eighteen, who play under the age of three. Little Girl (LG) - used to indicate people of either sex who play as a girl over the age of three and under the age of thirteen. Little Boy (LB) - used to indicate people of either sex who play as a boy over the age of three and under the age of thirteen. Sissy Baby (SB) - used to indicate biologically male people who play as a girl under the age of three. Baby Fur (BF) - used to indicate biologically human people who play as an animal under the age of three. There are also those in the ageplay-oriented portion of the community who do not play at any age but their biological one but enjoy acting as a caretaker for those who play as kids, little kids, or babies. There are also plenty of ageplayers out there who play at different ages depending on their mood, or who switch between the roles of dependent and caretaker. There is not, to my knowledge, a word for this. This is about where the terminology grows fuzzy. The incontinent portion of the community doesn't have too many handy terms or acronyms, so I guess I'll try to break it down as well as I can. Incontinence Afflicted Incontinent - used to indicate people whose bladder and/or bowel control is impaired by conditions beyond their control. Lifestyle Incontinent - used to indicate people who choose to relinquish bladder and/or bowel control consciously by unlearning toilet training. Fetish Incontinent - used to indicate people who fetishize incontinence/toilet desperation and choose to relieve themselves in their pants despite unimpaired bladder/bowel control, or to put themselves in a situation where they cannot reach a toilet in time and experience functional incontinence. Conversely, this group also includes people who fetishize incontinence/toilet desperation and enjoy watching others relieve themselves in their pants rather than doing it themselves. Some fetishists enjoy both. Obviously, with so much variation in the community, the wisest way to present ourselves to the world is under a term that focuses on the joining rather than dividing factors. One thing that I brought up in during some of the initial discussion that lead to the formation of this board was that as our understanding of our community broadens, we are finding more and more that the term ABDL isn't really sufficient anymore. Since we play at a range of ages, from infant to adult, the "adult baby" part of the name has really become to narrow for the kind of all-inclusive community we are moving towards. Move over, there are so many tangential branches of the community that aren't really addressed by the term. Sissy Babies, incontinence fetishists, and other tangential groups make up a bigger part of the community than I think most people give them credit for. A more politically correct term might be DAPI. (Diapers, Age Play, Incontinence) Putting this term into use would be a step toward where we want to be with regard to forming a unified public identity, and it is more along the lines of "BDSM" and "LGBT" in terms of being inclusive rather than specific. What are everyone else's thoughts on the matter?

I'm a diapered boy living in Brooklyn, New York. I'm 22 years old, and I'm studying film at the School of Visual Arts. I have a big comic book collection, though I'm not too big on superheros beyond the gold and silver age stuff. Sci-fi and horror are more my thing. I'm a vegetarian. Nearly every shirt I own is either from a concert or has the name of a band on it. I've watched more than my share of anime. As far a movies go, I'm big on foreign films, especially French, German, and Japanese movies. As far as diaper stuff goes, I'm comfortable with wetting, messing, and wearing in public, but messing is really too much clean-up to be an all-the-time thing, and my going out in a diaper has mostly just been to the store if I'm already wearing one. I've dealt with incontinence to varying degrees my whole life, but these days it's down to a few rare accidents. I'm not an AB, I'm a DL. I feel like I'm pretty well adjusted about it, and I'm out to my girlfriend. I'm bisexual and sometimes I like to wear girl's clothes. My friends and family know. That's not half as embarrassing as wanting to wear diapers though. I'll be keeping that one between me and my girlfriend.