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If you've been lurking a long time, you may have seen my posts before, but in case not, I'll point you to this thread, which I think had some thoughful insight. Here's my input: To answer your question directly, the impacts on my daily life were what I expected for about the first 10 years (~2000 to ~2010), which included meeting my wife and getting married, at about the age you are now. The positives and negatives were pretty predictable. In ~2011, though, my daughter was born. The addition of another person wearing diapers into the family changed a lot more than I expected, in ways that I had no way to predict a decade before that. There were a lot of highs and lows, and for a while I definitely had buyer's remorse on my, by that time, ancient decision. I've since come to terms with it, though, and I often wonder if I'd make the same decision then if I knew what I know now. In some ways, if forced me to become much more comfortable with who I am. On the other hand, it's caused huge amounts of stress, logistical issues, and so much else. comme ci comme ça.

When I had knee surgery I just asked the nurse during the pre-op consult what I should do. They suggested doing whatever I'm comfortable with, and suggested bringing "what I needed" from home if it would make me more comfortable. They've dealt with this many times before. Just ask.

Congrats on the milestone, and thanks for sharing your very entertaining stories, which are always well written. Here's to another five more soggy years, and many more.

I would speculate (with absolutely no data, mind you) that the the most important part of the training is convincing your mind that it's ok to wet, rather than waking. I remember listening to a number of hypnosis files that weren't so much "YOU WILL WET THE BED", but more, "It's ok, and not a big deal, so don't worry about if you do wet, or don't wet. It's all good". This goes to the same comments about being sure of no leaks, and so on, before being comfortable enough to allow the sleeping brain to let it go. A related part of that is the setting of a-randomly timed alarm (somewhere in the 2-4am range), where I would wake, immediately pee in whatever position I was in, then turn off the alarm and go back to sleep. Eventually I became less and less conscious of the waking, until I was just wetting and the alarm wasn't necessary. I was just thinking of a fun little electronics project... an 'anti-no-bedetting-alarm'. Modify a bedwetting alarm such that if it is _not_ wet by a random time, the alarm goes off and you have to wet to turn it off. I bet it wouldn't be too long until one started wetting before the alarm went off so that you didn't get woken up. ...Or maybe you'd just wet whenever you heard an alarm. *Shrug* who knows.

Incontrol carries the plastic version: https://incontroldiapers.com/tena-slip-maxi-european-incontinence-briefs/ They are my go-to diapers for traveling... I wear them on planes, etc, because they are thin enough to be discreet in public, reasonably comfortable, and able to take a full bladder hit if I fall asleep... I actually like the Ultima's better, but they are rarely available here in the States. I stock up when they are available... https://incontroldiapers.com/tena-slip-active-ultima-incontinence-briefs/

I trained myself back to sleep wetting about 20 years ago. It does sound like my experience is at least a little unusual, in that the fully-generalized sleep wetting resulted from the untraining. While I was mostly focused on wetting at night, what developed was a tendency to wet myself whenever I'm sleeping... diapered or not, including during naps on the couch/plane/etc. It didn't happen all at once, of course, but I learned through experience that my wetting is not limited to night, or only while diapered. I'm not sure why the "scope creep" occurred; while I was working to untrain myself I tried many, many things all at once (random alarm timing, many different hypnosis files, diapered and non-diapered wetting, and so on), so I'm not sure what lead to general sleep wetting, if there was only one thing. The training has also resisted several significant attempts to re-train, so whatever I did to myself all those years ago, it worked.

Echoing this. The bedwetting itself won't lead to daytime problems, but whatever is causing it, ranging from a UTI to Type II Diabetes, might. You should definitely see a doctor.

I just have to say how much I appreciate your writing! It's not often that I'm literally laughing out loud while reading!

I think you were asking Stroller, but I'm going to chime in anyway. Depending on your needs, there are a _lot_ of options. I know this thread is not about this, so I'll try to end with something on-topic. For night time, I find nothing works as well as pinned pre-folds. I have a stack of mostly Leakmaster pre-folds, but there are some other random diapers mixed in the stack and they are all similar. An important suggestion is to not get thick 'night' diapers, but use several thinner diapers. They are both easier to fold into something comfortable, as well as being much easier to wash and dry, which keeps the smells out. Plastic pants of course. For day time (when I might fall asleep in front of the TV, or naps, or such) I use cloth pullons. I have Kins and Leakmaster variants, and I usually use PUL pants. Again, thinner versions with an insert are easier to get clean and dry. I've tried pocket diapers, but they are more bulky and annoying than I like for day use and they don't have the side protection I need at night, so they are rarely used. To make this somewhat on topic... my personal strong preference, and what got me into diapers, is disposables (which is surprising because I was raised in the 70's and I know my mother used cloth on me.) My wife is the one that insists, for environmental reasons, on my use of cloth... so there is a low-grade grumbling if I make an excuse to wear a disposable, when in her opinion I should be wearing a re-usable. So I have to wear a diaper, but not one that, well, scratches the particular itch, if you know what I mean.

I can see that if one was traveling for leisure, it could be a fun quest to find new and interesting local diapers, shops that sell them, and so on. When I'm traveling, though, it's usually for business, and there is not time (and I don't have the energy) to spend on that. When traveling for leisure I'm with my family and I'm not given the time to track down diapers! Someday I hope to perhaps be able to take a trip where I was able to make time for diaper-related activities... but the lack of that time today is what makes it a downside...

Over the years, I've gone through highs and lows about how I feel about the decision I made to train myself back to sleep-wetting. The low was definitely a few years ago, when my daughter graduated from diapers, and I... didn't. From a mental health point of view, I was not in a good space. Though I only trained myself as far as sleep wetting, not 24/7, I agree that the traveling aspect is the most challenging. It's not the wearing itself, it's the carrying, acquiring, and otherwise managing the logistics of making sure that I have supplies, particularly when I'm on a trip with many stops over a longer period. I can imagine how much more challenging it would be from someone 24/7 dependent. Related to that... I use cloth at home, and have found a system that never* leaks and is (relatively) comfortable for me. When traveling I use disposables, which leads to a much higher probability of leaks, particularly when I'm trying to use whatever products I can find in some random country. Plastic pants, underpads, and other 'stuff' to help mitigate leaks takes even more space in luggage, and makes everything that much more annoying. Lastly, it is annoying how wearing a diaper interferes with intimacy. When I've already put a diaper on for the evening, things are very unlikely to happen, and certainly once it's wet any opportunities vanish. Making time for each other requires more planning, so that I don't happen to have a diaper already on when we're in the mood, but I don't wait too long for her to come to bed and fall asleep unprotected... *knock on wood...

Well, I can unequivocally tell you that the story of mine that they are selling is stolen. I did not give them, or anyone, permission to reprint it. I'll also note that the Bents are listed as editors on the Amazon listing, not just publishers, so they are a little more culpable than just "someone gave me a story to publish". They are in the "seriously slimy bad people" bucket, and I would like to find a way to make it very uncomfortable for them to continue to profit from their illegal activities. I have sent a note to them and have not heard back. I have also sent a message to Amazon, although I'm not sure I'm using the right path there. It's not something I'm dropping.

I chose 'other' because I have have gotten to the point of being unable to train myself out of sleep wetting - it's permanent, and I'm (sort of) happy with with that. I think that I would give it up if I could. My experience with that, and the realization that despite real efforts to re-train I will likely need to wear a diaper whenever I sleep for the rest of my life, means that I definitely wouldn't want to be fully incontinent. Realistically, just being a sleep-wetter means that I am in diapers quite a bit even when I'm awake, which 'scratches the itch', so to speak.

Better yet, reusable pads. After wetting on the couch a few times and causing some difficult-to-remove stains, my wife insists that I'm wearing a diaper if I'm settling into the couch, or my recliner, when there is even a small chance I might fall asleep. A chair pad is a usually there as a backup in case of leaks; a stack of them live in a drawer in the table next to the couch.

Thanks. I'll at least pursue the amazon part; I don't know where they get the bulk of their money, but I'm hoping it's the easiest, anyway...