Underagers In Chat

[ruuuuuuuuu1]

I hope they get IP banned(only any use if they have static IP's), not just by their username. Then again people who want to be suspect use a proxy, or naturally have dynamic IP's and re-join under different usernames.

However a solution to the above....

Ok this might sound a bit harsh, but maybe new people couldn't join the chat until they have a few moderator approved posts first and set questions to make them try and slip up, at least to see how they type. Which should drive minors away, as they bound to slip up and write something that gives them away as being underage.

I bet mostly all of minors don't know what say southern comfort is for example, compaired to the usual stella for example.

Or diaper questions like I bet minors don't know what a Bambino or DRY 24/7 is? Unless they find out on other sites,like bloody a**sc.....

Or the ones the mods question, must send a copy of there drivers lis.,, with address and pic blocked, as you can tell age then, in the usa.

[LilFozzyJ5]

well so far, a few have been in chat and some hawkeye has spotted them and raised the alarm, a couple have been stupid enough to put in their profile their true age... total dumb arse...

the only way to catch em is to be vigalent, and people are in the room... then get em to leave and report em.

[Andy]

I have reset my age to 30+ because of administrationel request. I might add that I find it very laughable since at one point during my membership here I already had to prove that I am 18+ to enter the chatroom by sending a dollar and copy of my passport.

[ErinM]

Ok this might sound a bit harsh, but maybe new people couldn't join the chat until they have a few moderator approved posts first and set questions to make them try and slip up, at least to see how they type. Which should drive minors away, as they bound to slip up and write something that gives them away as being underage.

I bet mostly all of minors don't know what say southern comfort is for example, compaired to the usual stella for example.

Or diaper questions like I bet minors don't know what a Bambino or DRY 24/7 is? Unless they find out on other sites,like bloody a**sc.....

It took me all of about 10 seconds to do a search on Southern Comfort.

Even the most sheltered ABDL will know what a Bambino is.

Kids are not as stupid as some people think they are. They can and will answer correctly any set of questions you pose no matter how complicated they happen to be. Kids know the ins and outs of the internet because there is a good chance that they have grown up with it and have been using it since they were able to type.

[sarah_ab]

WOW just say no to soco is like a saying everyone knows by middle school !!!

now stella most people in the USA won't know until they actually start caring about how beer tastes.....

We first got AOL when i was around 11 or 12, and i started going into chatrooms claiming i was 18-20. And that was before google and wikipedia etc... now, it takes so little time to google something... its very easy to pretend to be older..

asking an alcohol related question wouldn't help at all... like i said... over here most middle schoolers know 'just say no to soco...' but have no idea what a stella is... because its not a common beer here... heck most 21 year olds don't know stella either....

[KittenAB]

What is beer? The only thing I drink are margaritas ... so yeah, fail questions.

As I said, you can't tell from the way they type or answer questions, and on here you're more likely to get immature responses from an AB than a minor. Most IRC has a very wide range of ages there, and many of the kids are even honest about it. One kid on there is a friend of mine, he's a wanna-be hacker but mostly a troll. We do trolling for fun in IRC, it's entertaining. The only reason I know he's a kid is because he told me. Most people think he's a lonely fat guy in his parent's basement living off the system ... his troll avatar. I know of at least three other kids, as young as 8, who can act more mature than most adults. FYI On IRC I don't hang out in porn channels, I'm a gamer and animator.

Then we could get into the whole mental disabilities list, many of which do have acting immature as a minor but common symptom.

If you do what some adult sites do and require some electronic signature, you are just alienating most users. Most such systems require credit card numbers, and spam the shit out of you. Others are just as easy to bypass as "18+ only" click through banners.

So yeah, report it, if nothing happens then accept that you were wrong, drop it, and move on.

Also, the next time anyone says language is a "tell" of anything, I think I will burn every single dictionary in the US. That is as prejudice as saying "you like noodles so you must be Japanese."

[Guest Baby Rina]

language is a tell of anything...

Hopefully that will keep you distracted by burning dictionaries and let everyone else actually have a meaningful discussion.

[KittenAB]

language is a tell of anything...

Hopefully that will keep you distracted by burning dictionaries and let everyone else actually have a meaningful discussion.

Language is not a tell of age, it is a tell of social background at best. 20 years ago it would be a tell of where you grew up, today not so much. Accent can tell that still, but that's about the only linguistic "tell" remaining. So no, it's not a "tell" of anything, it's a hint of social associations, nothing more.

[Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover]

OK, here's the real poop

You need to let us know if you suspect anyone of being a minor. Why? Because it is illegal for them to be here and can result in the instant and permanent closing of this website. If you like being here then help us keep minors away. You're not outing anyone or ratting on them- you're just helping us to keep this site open.

If you suspect a member is a minor, cease all interaction with them immediately, click on their name which will take you to their profile. On it is a 'report button'- click there and then tell us why you think this person is a minor. If they admit it in chat please give us the time they did this so we can look it up in the Chat logs to verify it. We will take it from there and you will remain anonymous.

To keep this site open we must keep it legal, and the servers are located where the law says 'no minors' for this type of website. Whether you agree with that law or not, we have to do our best to comply with it. With everyone's help we can do that. So if you like DailyDiapers help us keep it open for you

Bettypooh

PS- anyone assisting a minor to bypass the rules here will also be banned with the minor- got it? Thanks! BP

Betty beat me to it--this is an issue of legality, and those who are underage need to be removed. No, we're not going to catch everyone who lies about their age, but the people we do catch on any part of this site should be reported. If a minor puts on a convincing performance that fools everyone, we won't know that person is a minor--if we find out though, we have to let the mods know, and if we find out, that person's performance isn't convincing. I think it's an unwritten rule that we can only ban minors that we catch though, or who out themselves.

We could use age verifying questions similar to the original leisure suit larry :

http://www.allowe.co.../1questions.htm

The sad thing is that I'm a legal adult well under the age of 41 and I was still able to answer the majority of those questions. As soon as I read "Thomas Eagleton," I knew what the answer to the question was going to be before even finishing the sentence. It also took me one reading of "who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men" to blurt out "The Shadow knows," even before looking at the other answers.

The idea of age verification questions is interesting though--if handled correctly it could work, but it would take some effort.

It took me all of about 10 seconds to do a search on Southern Comfort.

now stella most people in the USA won't know until they actually start caring about how beer tastes.....

As someone who doesn't drink, I actually had to think for a moment about just what Southern Comfort was. Sarah, it might be well known on your side of the states, but on this side its far less common. Likewise, you can't channel surf on this side of the country without hitting an ad for Stella. (I swear, if I see one more ad for the Chalice Can...)

Age verification questions can work, but they need to be handled a certain way. For starters, the person answering them can't be allowed to click out of their current browser session--this will prevent people from going to Google/Bing and searching for the answers. Also, the questions would need to be timed--if timed properly, it would be very difficult for someone to use a second device to search for answers if they didn't know them.

Finally, I want to end this by saying that typing skills do not indicate a person's age. There are plenty of people over the age of 18 who have a terrible grasp of the English language. Some people who have a very good grasp of the English language will actually "handicap" their knowledge in order to avoid being identified on sites such as this one. (And yes, I'm guilty of doing this.)

[wetman]

Age verification by questioning is, in my opinion, not a practicable way of blocking minor's access to a website. As soon as 1 person (maybe even after 48 attempts with different IP numbers) had some correct answers, they'd be published on some website... broken.

Age verification by checking the Personalausweisnummer (ID card number, a unique number which contains amongst other information also the date of birth in the number string) for age and validity used to be a thing in Germany, but the practice was that you could calculate the four involved checksums (3 for sections and one over the lot) on the back of a medium stamp. It would show any age you wanted and calculate as valid, but wasn't anyone's.

What about an age check over a credit card billing? It could be totally disconnected from this site, and for a completely unrelated item.

For example:

The want-to-be-member sends an email to the moderator. The moderator confirms and asks for a preferred item and an ebay name. If you are into computers, get 3 drive jumpers, if you like gardening, a seed label holder. You like golf? Buy a tee. Car enthusiasts will get a replacement screw cover for their armrest or such. The auction on ebay is private, postage is free (it will not happen anyway...), so all you pay is 1 Pound/ Dollar/Euro/piece of shell with a hole in it.

Not really traceable to a fetish site, and it would be confirmed through the ebay/paypal payment system. Even if someone saw that you ordered 1 tee, it wouldn't compromise you (open and close an account, just for this transaction, maybe).

After confirmation of the payment, you get access to the site. The 1 Pound is for the extra effort of the moderator in putting a prefabricated auction up; if that doesn't cover it, make it 2 Pounds or so.

What do you think?

[sarah_ab]

back in they day there were only two ways you could get into chat - send a copy of your passport/license to DD, or pay a $1..... but now anyone with a checking/savings account can have a paypal account, so taht doesn't work anymore......

[wetman]

back in they day there were only two ways you could get into chat - send a copy of your passport/license to DD, or pay a $1..... but now anyone with a checking/savings account can have a paypal account, so taht doesn't work anymore......

Darn.

[Bettypooh]

Sure, there are ways to verify age better than we do now, but many here would not wish to reveal that much about themselves and it does not seem to be legally required to go that far- yet. There may come a time when such stringent checking is required and if that happens we will have to go there. Until then we want to give you all the personal privacy space we can And just as with anything else, a determined person will find a way to circumvent any security measures you take, so nothing can be totally effective except perhaps meeting someone in person in the middle of a desert and whispering- not a very good way to do an online chatroom

In the meantime just let us know about suspected minors and we will handle it

Bettypooh

[robert_dl]

Age verification questions can work, but they need to be handled a certain way. For starters, the person answering them can't be allowed to click out of their current browser session--this will prevent people from going to Google/Bing and searching for the answers. Also, the questions would need to be timed--if timed properly, it would be very difficult for someone to use a second device to search for answers if they didn't know them.

Haha, are you serious?

There are underage users who are savvy enough to use a program like 'cheat engine' to pause the browsers script, they probably already use these hack programs to get incredible scores in Facebook games.

Is it really the administrators obligation to ensure all users are of age? If there are adequate checks in place & an underage user deceives them, is it really the administrators fault? - look at the bullshit age checks on Facebook, YouTube, & ALL websites.

[diaperwerx]

In my early days (I'm over 40 now), all I had was a modem and I was able to access some pretty obscene bbs's. That said it is all of our responsibility to police the site. If a minor happens to fool all of us like I did back in the day then so be it. But if you treasure this site and the freedom to talk freely on it then you would be wise to follow BP's advice.

I for one support this site and while a teen may be clever and mature, probably more mature than many of us, it doesn't mean that just the presence of a minor on this site can't bring it down. And it won't be the Teen AB's it will be the parents, the parents will bring the negative media. I think for the most part we are all amicable people and we want to share to the diapered community. But sometimes you have to put your real panties and underpants on (even if they are diapers) and stand up!

I do hope any underagers here who are mature enough to get through and read this thread can also be mature enough to realize what is at stake here.

For the rest of us, this is self-preservation and the distinction that we are in no way related to pedo or other filias related to children. BP is 100% right and NO it is not just the admin's (any of them) responsibility to do THIS. It is on all of our shoulders as a member of the adult diaper play (AB, DL, ABDL, etc) community.

Whether you agree with the laws or not that is your choice, but I would expect as a member of this community we would all want to preserve it.

[waynecook52]

Im pc dumb to certain things.What is the difference between this site and diaperchat?Think the age there is 13.

[sarah_ab]

umm you have to be over 18 to come to this site. on the main page you have to click "yes" on i am over 18 to get past it.. so if you are here and under 18, then you have lied.

[waynecook52]

That does not ansewer my question.What i want to know is,is diaperchat a differant type of site then daily diapers?Teens as young as 13 can join there.I just want to know what the differance is between them.Maybe dd or one of the mods can tell me.

[sarah_ab]

ohhh ok you mean like is DD considered porn and diaperchat something else.. sorry i didn't understand what you were asking! my bad...

i think DD is just covering his ass by making this over 18 theres less risk of prosecution...

[Repaid1]

It is a owner of site decision. Daily chose to keep the site of Legal age as in accordance with most state and local authorities regarding the content of his site within U.S. guidelines. While Diaperchat may allow underage members (I don't visit there because of that) perhaps the site content there is more tailored to members of the younger set as well and does not allow some of the adult content that this site does? Just a observation.

[waynecook52]

thanks repaid1.think that just about sums it up.There are NO outher site you can go to right from there.Heck they dont even talk about outher sites on there home page.again thanks.dont go there as much as i use to cause the few i enjoyed talking to have passed away.

[ruuuuuuuuu1]

In my early days (I'm over 40 now), all I had was a modem and I was able to access some pretty obscene bbs's. That said it is all of our responsibility to police the site. If a minor happens to fool all of us like I did back in the day then so be it. But if you treasure this site and the freedom to talk freely on it then you would be wise to follow BP's advice.

I for one support this site and while a teen may be clever and mature, probably more mature than many of us, it doesn't mean that just the presence of a minor on this site can't bring it down. And it won't be the Teen AB's it will be the parents, the parents will bring the negative media. I think for the most part we are all amicable people and we want to share to the diapered community. But sometimes you have to put your real panties and underpants on (even if they are diapers) and stand up!

I do hope any underagers here who are mature enough to get through and read this thread can also be mature enough to realize what is at stake here.

For the rest of us, this is self-preservation and the distinction that we are in no way related to pedo or other filias related to children. BP is 100% right and NO it is not just the admin's (any of them) responsibility to do THIS. It is on all of our shoulders as a member of the adult diaper play (AB, DL, ABDL, etc) community.

Whether you agree with the laws or not that is your choice, but I would expect as a member of this community we would all want to preserve it.

ty vm