InconJane

Whilst I don't agree with all of the opinions expressed in this thread, I do agree with Zander that it is great to see well-argued points in reasoned posts. Please keep this thread going. It is cathartic and bringing some sanity to this topic.

Great post Bettypooh.

To XyXy and Creepymouse, I think that you have the wrong idea of what we are saying. I have no problem is someone wants to wear and use diapers 24/7. I have no problem if someone enjoys their diapers and prefers being in them than out of them. I can completely understand the feelings of safety and security that they bring. We are saying 2 things though. Firstly, if this is a decision that you want to make, please fully inform yourself of all the consequences, including financial, social and lifestyle ones first. Secondly, don't do anything permanent that you will regret later and can't reverse. I have no problem with people who, with full knowledge of the consequences, choose to "untrain" themselves as they should be equally able to train themselves again if they want to. However when I see threads about surgery to cause voluntary and permanent incontinence, I do get upset. I understand that this is an incontinence desires page, and I am supportive of people having their desires. I am just sharing my experiences so that people can make informed decisions.

Bravo Allen, I'm not going to flame you. I became incontinent 5 years ago, also through a spinal injury (dirtbike accident not shovelling snow), and have to wear 24/7 since. Fortunately I have a lot of family support both financially and emotionally, as because they all either saw me when I had my accident or in the hospital for the long months afterwards, they understand that I don't have bladder or bowel control. Friends though are a different story. Going through something like this, and being incontinent does show you who your real friends are. People that stick by you through embarrassing situations and stick up for you are gold. Unfortunately, too many people you think are your friends will abandon you when they think that you have embarrassed them by leaking (either pee or poop) in public. Whilst (after 5 years) I am coming to terms with my need to be in diapers 24/7, it is definitely something I would rather not have to deal with. Even if you want to wear 24/7 and use your diapers as you wish, it is still better to have control than to not have control. Like Allen says, if you are considering voluntarily becoming incontinent, think very carefully about it first. Jane

Tiggerboy, That sounds quite traumatic for you. Unfortunately, these sort of occurences can happen to me when I least expect it. As I have no control, it can be quite shaking when heavy messing strikes unexpectedly. You have my thoughts. Jane

Akhenaton, As someone who is medically incontinent due to spinal injury, I implore you to listen to the very wise words being offered to you by padded_husky, Allen and Bettypooh. Having bowel incontinence is not fun. You may enjoy pooping in your diapers at convenient times, but not having control over your bowels is a completely different situation. As Bettypooh pointed out, it is also very very expensive. Unlike wet diapers that you might be able to stay in for a little time, you have to change a poopy diaper as soon as possible, otherwise you will have serious problems and will cause distress to all the people around you. You will also find that it impacts on your activities. If you want to simulate bowel incontinence through laxatives when you are in control of the situation then that is one thing, but to voluntarility cause yourself permanent physiological harm is not a good idea. Jane

I don't know if this is the right forum for this thread, but what are people's thoughts on the best plastic pants. I have found that there are some good options on Amazon, and have recently found the Leakmaster PUL diaper pants. These are so much more comfortable than the other ones that I have, and are very good at protecting me from leaks. Given that I am incontinent and wear diapers 24/7 (although I don't wear plastic at night), the comfort and protection from my plastic pants is a huge issue for me.

Other than Molicares, I also wear depends a lot, although with the Depends I always need plastic pants as they can leak a lot more. I agree with the Square Duck though that for the price, the Depends are a good option.

I don't have a choice either, and someone noticing a diaper is a lot less devastating than the alternatives...

I never show off my diapers in public. They are something that I have to wear, and like my "normal" underwear before my accident, they are private and not for public exhibition.

Not having to use a lot of unpleasant public toilets is a real plus. Whilst I am on a regimented bowel control programme, if I am out and the only toilet options are not places that I would sit down, then I take my chances with my diaper.

After 5 years and a lot of therapy, I have been encouraged along the bowel management line. It actually stresses me some of the time having to go to the toilet at specific times, but I still persist. I guess that after fighting my way back from a serious spinal injury and getting control back over some areas of my life, I am a little scared of losing the little semblance of control that I do have over my toileting (even if I have virtually no control over my bladder and very little bowel control). What was the trigger for you to "let go" of your bowel management techniques and "surrender" to using your diapers? What was the reaction from your doctor(s) or therapists at that time?

I have found that the Molicares work quite well. I try to avoid pooping when I can, but I will usually poop my diapers every couple of days, and the Molicares are better than other brands I have tried. When I am out though, I always wear plastic pants for better leak protection, so the poop is well contained anyway.

Great ad. My type of guy.

I have been using Depends for a while, and the thing I like about them is that they are discreet. Their leg bands don't stop leaks as well as some others, but they can be worn without being too obvious. If I am going out though, I need to wear plastic pants over them to stop leaks.